Bok experience was key - Smit

2011-09-11 22:45

Wellington - South Africa coach Peter de Villiers's decision to name the most experienced Springboks side to ever take the field paid off when they managed to overcome a battling Wales 17-16 in their opening rugby World Cup Pool D clash on Sunday.

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The world champions, with 815 total Test caps, were forced to defend for most of the match as the combative Welsh kept them pinned in their own half and held on to the ball for long periods.

The Springboks, who had led 10-6 at the break, fought back from a 16-10 deficit after rampaging Wales number eight Toby Faletau had scored his side's only try with about 25 minutes remaining.

Replacement Springboks winger Francois Hougaard, however, finished off a tidy, planned move after a sustained buildup - the South Africans' only real scoring opportunity in the second half - to seal the win.

"I think that has a lot to do with it," Springboks captain John Smit told reporters when asked if he felt their experience had played a part in securing the victory.

"The boys have been around for a while (and) it's often those moments when you're behind the poles and a try has been scored and you're down by a point and you are looking at the sky.

"There was a lot of calm out there. We have got huge belief in each other.

"There was still a lot of time as well, (so) we didn't need to panic. We just needed to get in their half, which was quite difficult."

South Africa coach De Villiers was pleased the way the team had battled through the match.

"What a brilliant start for us," he said. "We always knew this pool was going to be very tough. There are no easy games in this pool.

"To be on top of your game the first game of the tournament was very hard but we are very happy.

"The guys, I call it not a rugby Test today. I call it a test of character. We came to a win today and we have achieved our first goal."

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  • Barry Edwards - 2011-09-11 19:17

    John, as a big fan of yours, I am afraid to say it say it was the younger replacements in the second half that was key.

      Scaramouche - 2011-09-11 19:49

      True, but John did not play badly - I think he was the second best no. 2 on the pitch (apart from Bismarck!). It was however perfect timing to bring Bismarck on as he made a huge impact!

      Theo - 2011-09-11 19:59

      Scaramouche, what game were you watching? Why should we settle for the second best , and why can't Bismarck start? If you like Smit so much then bring on in the last 2mins.

      Henk - 2011-09-11 20:07

      If you look closely at the try from Whales, you will see that the pass was forward! Justice served!

      Sjamies - 2011-09-11 20:41

      Without the replacements, we would have lost today. We were outplayed in every part of the field. How Div can be happy with this, I don't know! We should have put 20 points past Wales today. Poor.

      Storm Bru - 2011-09-11 20:46

      Fully agree. We only got into the game after John and Co were replaced. Sorry but JP should not be there. He was going walkies most of the match. Did someone tell him he was playing today?? John was a absolute waste. He just does not get stuck and he is being carried by the other players. Henk, you are right it was a clear forward pass but that happens. Fortunately Bismarck and Co came on just in time. John, its time to step down as you are not the no. 1 (nor no. 2 or 3 for that matter) hooker anymore.

      Spyker May - 2011-09-11 22:02

      I am not sure what scares me more - how delusional a tangible part of SA is or the fact that we will face either Ireland or Australia in the quarters... Not only is there a real chance that we will see our worst WC performance EVER.., there is a real chance that we will become the first world-champion side to be defeated in the quarter finals, EVER. The only embarrassment that will match this, will be SA's national soccer team, delivering the worst performance in the entire history, of SWC (ie the worst performing host team EVER). But guess what - VET OUPA SMIT will still waddle past go and collect a fat check, so will the little Helium Hoender... Imagine some of our future challenges - being beaten by Argentina in the FOUR NATIONS - but you know what, at least we will always be the most experienced, certainly our coach will be - eg he will hold the record for the worst performing national rugby coach EVER - now that is experience for you... Evidently nobody has reminded the Smit/PdV-and-their-apologist that Wales was FOURTH in the 2010/2011 Six Nations (NOTE 4 out of 6, for Smit and Div) - only better than Scotland and Italy...EINA..!

      jase880 - 2011-09-11 22:37

      The thing is: Wales played above themselves today - the best I have ever seen them play, and undoubtedly better than I have seen a Six Nations team play in the past 4 years. I really hope they come second in our pool because they are going to give Australia a torrid time if they play like that again in the QFs. Today was our toughest game until the semis - there is NO WAY Ireland will be that good when we meet them in the quarters.

      susan.greyling - 2011-09-11 23:06

      If he was decent, he would have stepped down. Everyone knows he doesn't deserve to be the Springbok hooker and it's shameful that Hougard is a replacement player.

      David - 2011-09-11 23:15

      spyker may... get lost, please stop watching any sport and shut up around the braai....

      shark271 - 2011-09-11 23:29

      Spyker May, thats the biggest lot of crap i've ever heard. Don't comment if you don't know what you talking about.

      ikey_tiger - 2011-09-11 23:35

      Did you even watch the warm-up matches? Wales are a VERY good side that has(now had) LOADS of confidence! They OUTPLAYED us completely! Our character got us the victory! I am NOT scared of Ireland as they are playing like $HIT.. I am more scared of Fiji and Samoa (they can beat anyone on their day, and their physicality will almost guarantee one or two more injuries)

      Yoni - 2011-09-11 23:39

      Let's be honest, the Sharks didn't even let him play in their vital last match against the Bulls in this year's Super 15-tournament.

      Karoobloed - 2011-09-12 05:29

      Agree with Barry. The Welsh pack was all over us after 5 minutes, and Bismarcks absence was probably a big factor in their ascendancy. I am really concerned about our locks. Bakkies seems to be out, and Victor seems like a tired old warhorse carrying an injury. The loss of Bekker for this RWC has been huge. PdV should consider flying Mostert in - we really need a lock with fire in the engine room. I am also missing Aplon - he may be a better option than Pietersen at 14 at this point.

      Met - 2011-09-12 05:40

      I think that both Smit and "the coach" attended the ANCs propaganda school before leaving for NZ. They are in a world of their own- of denial!

      BardofAvon - 2011-09-12 06:53

      @ Spyker May: You are right, but there are a couple of things: We don't know which team will be selected going forward. There is every chance that the "real best" team will be chosen. The coach really had no choice but to play Smit et al for the opening game, but - and full credit to him - he brought on the replacements when it was still not too late. Remember, we won the game. And, as any Bulls supporter will tell you, a win is a win. So, let's be supportive and send out positive vibes to the coach to pick the right guys, and not pick the wrong guys. Bakkies' injury is though of real concern.

      draaft - 2011-09-12 08:06

      I only watched the first half completely, and in those 40 mins, John Smit missed 4 tackles got run around 2 times by backs and once by a forward, through a lineout ball not straight, left a ball bouncing a meter from him just to let the Welsh snatch it, got tackled backwards twice and gave a away a penalty for holding on. He also failed once with clean attempt to rip a ball from a tackled Welsh player. In stark contrast, Bismarck improved our scrum, gained ground with every run, ripped 3 balls from tackled Welshmen and was not caught breathing heavily at centre or wing even once. I am sick of John Smits laziness/unfitness/lack of talent... SICK OF IT!!!!

      faniedt - 2011-09-12 08:32

      @ Spyker May - Australia has the worst WC preformance as defending champions. They lost to England in 1995 in the quarter-finals. So we'll have to not qualify to beeat that.

      Makutu - 2011-09-12 08:51

      This is such bull$hit! Smit was kak... What experience? The experienced guys were losing the match. We only won when we put in the young guys.

  • Dink-net - 2011-09-11 19:25

    A great leader knows when to step down..If John stays on as first choice hooker, this World cup will go down in history as the one that was lost because John Smit put himself before the team.

      saburger - 2011-09-12 07:56

      The coaching staff is to blame for the poor performance, the poor Bok selection and lack of any strategies. To win this game was pure luck and a bad decission from the line judges!

      Boks always - 2011-09-12 09:38

      The poor dicissions from the line judges costed South Africa numerous penalties as the Welsh set up camp midway past the rug, 1 meter in front of the last mans feet and not one were penalised. Non of the angles of the replays for the kicks can be used to confirm the missed kick or pointed too the fact that it might be over. If we lost this match it would have been due to the fact that we could not clean out properly at the rucks which was the main reason for all the penalties against us.

  • Johann - 2011-09-11 19:28

    It was better when the younger guys came on, no doubt there was more hunger to pull it off. We'll have to be much better in 2 week's time.

      Proudly SA - 2011-09-12 06:14

      Have huge amount for John Smit as a person and should be in NZ as squad captain but Bismarck is way ahead in terms of skills, strength and speed at moment; however not sure wha all focus on John, as many of seasoned boks played worse - Fourie Du Preez was 10m behind game and looked babelas; JP was in his worst frustarting self (lets hope he gets the brilliance that set world on fire 2007); Sies was simply bad and Morne Steyn had shocker and should be back to bench. Frans Steyn was literally covering back 3 positions. Wales did play very well and were ably assisted by S Barnes who was very inconsistent at ruck / maul times, allowed many skew throw ins and blind to forward passes

      Sharkie-fan - 2011-09-12 10:40

      @Proudly SA...all the focus is on John because people are talking about Bismarck being worlds number 1 hooker and Smit is playing instead of him. Other "seasoned Boks" also had shocking games but Smit has had a shocking 2 years

  • Theo - 2011-09-11 19:29

    Smit you are so thick skinned , time to go boet.

      Barry Edwards - 2011-09-11 19:37

      It time to have John come off the bench. He knows he is not the best in his postion and was man enough to say so. It is not his fault. He does not select the starting 15 and for sure he did not make himself captain for his second world cup as captain. Some other people did that...and it was not just Div.

      Theo - 2011-09-11 19:51

      Barry, if Smit is such a legend then he will realise himself that he didn't perform on the day, he will realise himself that he is keeping a better player on the bench , he will himself realise that he is disrupting the team going forward . He should decide that his time has come, I truly believe that the team can take the WC with the right players and the right combination's.

      Barry Edwards - 2011-09-11 20:19

      @Theo. You not making sense. John today already mentioned Bizz today as a key factor. There would be a lot of red faces if Smit stood down on his own action. So its up to the powers that be to make changes. And I dont mean Div.

      Sharkie-fan - 2011-09-12 10:49

      @Barry...if Smit stays that will bring his stats as being a great captain etc right down. The last 2 years alone have been disasterous for the Boks. He should want to quit while he's still known as a legend. I don't even think he should come off the bench...Bismarck could quite easily play the whole game...he has the stamina to play 80 minutes. He is needed to pull us through the last 10 or 20 minutes of the game just as much as he is needed to get us started

  • rob barrie - 2011-09-11 19:38

    Please Smit just go quitely now - SA deserves to select the best team and best man for the job as player, hooker and even captain. You had your opportunities

      Gazza69 - 2011-09-12 08:43

      Bismarck was awesome....again! If you must select Smit bring him on for the last 5 min so he can deliver the after match speech after the team wins......hahaha

  • BardofAvon - 2011-09-11 19:39

    This game was like the Tri-Nations game against Australia. Once the coaching staff saw that certain (popular) combos didn't work (e.g. Butch James at fly half), they fixed it for the All Blacks game. I expect they will do the same again. It's easy to see who must go and who must stay.

  • Wessel van Rensburg - 2011-09-11 19:40

    Ag nee man John. Tree af.

  • burtfred - 2011-09-11 19:42

    Well, he would say that, wouldn't he? John, bow out now chap, don't go down in history as the Bok who didn't know when to quit.

  • !!Vrystaat!! - 2011-09-11 19:47

    When the experience went of and the RUGY Players came on, THEN we started playing.

  • call a spade - 2011-09-11 19:48

    The Welsh played probably at their best and the boks at their worst and we still won. Must be a huge disappointment for them. I read somewhere the Welsh focused for the last 10 months on this game. Samoa beat the wallabies couple of weeks ago and Aus went from there and demolish the blacks for 40 minutes. This things happen. I am positive. Go Bokkies.

  • Barry Edwards - 2011-09-11 19:50

    John cannot bow out now. He did not select the first 15 today. Nor did he select himself to be captain. There are a team of people who do that. Why don't they put John on the bench as captain? He will accept it I am sure .

      !!Vrystaat!! - 2011-09-11 21:12

      Did you read John comments in the rugy mags ? He is so full of himself say that we cannot go without him, victor cannot do what he does ? crap man,he is just there for the money

      AtomicA - 2011-09-12 00:42

      @Barry - Why would we accept having a captain on the bench? And that from the start of the match? "Oh, sorry ref, but I'm the V/C so I will first have to run to the bench to consult with my captain." ...or..."Sorry boys, but I do not have inspirational words for you, but let's wait for John Smith to run over from the bench so that he can inspire us for the next 60 mins of the match."

  • BardofAvon - 2011-09-11 19:57

    What saddens me about this comment is that he still can't see how long the shadows are.

  • namibia24 - 2011-09-11 19:59

    John, that reporter was fishing when he asked you if you felt the experience in the side had played a part in securing the victory, and you fell hook line and sinker for it!!!! They are Laughing at your remarks behind your back. You act as if the Springbok brand is yours to manage into the ground. Stop this crap man, the game is much bigger than you and the other older guys in the pack. Everyone saw clearly that when you were substituted with Bismarck, and Hougaard came up that is was the game saving impetus that we needed. WTF is it…. starting like you did and then after 10 minutes you look like you cannot even tackle. You are too old and craggy and because you were unfit or old you do not get to the breakdowns in time and therefore quickly slot in with the backline (as if it were planned) and then just hamper them also in moving forward, giving away turnover ball, KAK line out trough’s, the list goes on. If you and your sorry-ass experienced players stayed on the field for 80 mins then we would not have won this game by 1 point. If you never started then we would have had a decent score and you could have said “we moulded these young lads” The Game plan looked great in the 1st 10 mins and then you got tired. Please tell your couch that you cannot play and give the rising stars a chance for heaven’s sake and for South Africa’s sake!!!!

      BardofAvon - 2011-09-11 20:04

      Yes, namibia24, SA played with 14 men until Bizzie came on.

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-09-11 20:34

      Incorrect....we played with 13 men until Bissie and Alberts came on.

      GraemeBB - 2011-09-11 21:13

      Please, what did Alberts do?

      namibia24 - 2011-09-11 22:11

      GraemeBB, he played better than spier tiertjie

      ŸÄ±Kleinboet - 2011-09-11 23:50

      @SAFFA Incorrect, we played with 11. JdV, Jacque Fourie, Schalk and Habana is a total disgrace for the game

      Brannas - 2011-09-12 05:25

      Yeah, the Bulls had to come on and safe the day. I agree, John Smit and the stormers is just a liability and passengers. We need more bulls in the team and Yster Spies as Captain.

      Gazza69 - 2011-09-12 08:50

      @Brannas...change your name to Brainless...what a chump! Was there no Jukskei in your dorp this weekend?

      Sharkie-fan - 2011-09-12 12:15

      "Bulls had to come on and save the day"...last time I checked Alberts and Bismarck were Sharks!!!!!!!

      Jasoneye - 2011-09-13 08:44

      WOW cant you idiots just be happy we won.

  • DJGRAHAM - 2011-09-11 20:12

    Boks where Lucky

  • Rugganut - 2011-09-11 20:16

    To everyone who is begging for John to step down, can I just point out something you are obviously not aware of...the team has been selected and the only way someone can be replaced in the squad is through injury. I guess John (with SARU's approval) could fake an injury but I am certain that a) SARU would never gamble with this type of farce and b) someone checks the legitemacy of all injuries...otherwise every coach could change their squad as they pleased.

      namibia24 - 2011-09-11 20:20

      We can still do without him in an davisory roll, Div must just not select him, he is a liability on the field and an asset of the field.Enough said

      AtomicA - 2011-09-12 00:46

      I know off people that can get him injured...for free. And it would not be a fake injury. ;)

      Sharkie-fan - 2011-09-12 15:39

      He should of thought about this long time ago...before the selections...someone is missing out because of him. He should do what Ricky Januarie did and bow down gracefully. Look at all this negativity towards a man that so many people love / loved. He should retire before people are totally against him and he ruins his reputation for being the best SA captain

  • Davearch - 2011-09-11 20:29

    What RUBBISH ... Hougaard, Bismark and Alberts as key ... he and his boss are just an embarrassment to SA RUGBY

  • Tits McGee - 2011-09-11 20:31

    bismarck makes a good impact player and it should stay that way while john is there. john scrums and carries the ball well in the tight early stages. bismarck comes on the in the second makes big impact once the game loosens up. he looks way better because the game is loose and the opposition is weary. it is very effective as we saw with all the subs. it should stay that way. pierre spies is a show pony who does nothing but look ridiculously good in a tight top, alberts should start on flank, schalk has developed his game over the years and is now able to play 8th man.

      Andrew - 2011-09-11 22:47

      You are correct but for one thing. Bismark makes an impact, from minute 1 to minute 80, every minute. He is not an impact player in the understood definition of the word.

  • Davearch - 2011-09-11 20:33

    Does PDIV, GOLD and MUIR not remind one of the 3 stooges ???

  • Dan - 2011-09-11 20:41

    POORLY COACHED TEAM !!!! Nothing more and nothing less. Wales was the better team.

      BardofAvon - 2011-09-12 06:59

      Yes, Dan, Wales dominated in all the statistical counts. Except one.

  • Rob Jones - 2011-09-11 20:44

    Boks were a great 5 minute team, again no plan B. They should not have won this game, and its a great injustice that Wales cant have that kick over turned as it went over. Wales were by far the best team on the night

      namibia24 - 2011-09-11 20:59

      The ball curled in after it went past the up-rights!!

      On the Verge - 2011-09-11 21:16

      Yip Jonesy, and yet they lost. They had 60% possession and territory, ran at the boks all day, broke the advantage line countless times, had more kicks at goal, and yet they lost. They caught the aged boks of-guard, lead with 20 mins to go at sea level, and yet they still lost. I'd be a bit red faced mate, go have a pint and sing a sad song...Bokke! Oh, and @namibia, what goes around comes around - the only Welch try was from a forward pass - just some sporting assistance from Mr Bias Barnes...

      Wormtongue - 2011-09-11 23:25

      Hi BCC...

  • NZdreamer - 2011-09-11 20:45

    I think the Bokke used their 'get out of jail free card' against Wales........never the less, a nail biting game.

  • Flyhalf - 2011-09-11 20:45

    This was a lucky win. The disputed penalty would have been enough for Wales to win. The older players looked unfit and were all useless on the day, none more so than Fourie du Preez and our two wings.The situation with our injured locks is a big problem.How will we be able to handle 'physical' teams like Samoa and Fiji with this lot?

  • gatvol4corru - 2011-09-11 21:08

    Disagree with captain slow. when Bismarck and Hougaard came on with Guthro,it actually showed how useless JS was. So,captain slow & Clown Divvy -- let the real players do the job so we can actually win games the Bok way!

  • Robert Hurn - 2011-09-11 21:17

    piss off smth

      BardofAvon - 2011-09-12 07:02

      Yes, we've been respectful and polite to him for long enough now.

  • Andrew - 2011-09-11 22:35

    Experience alone is not enough. You need the balance of experience, skill and youthful energy. It is this part that Smit and Divvy politely ignore. Our experience did not cause the Welsh to miss kicks, they simply missed them. So you see somethings simply are not down to OUR experience. It is easy after the game to reason things away and to make these fit your philosophy. What would Smit had said if their drop kick went over, would he have said we lost, despite our experience? Doubt it. I think what everyone says is the same but with different wording. We don't seem to have any surprises up our sleeves, we are just making it, so when we come up against another well motivated and more skilled team what are we going to pull out of the bag? We have fielded our most experienced team and got away with a lucky one point victory? Where to now, if experience is the key where to we find another ageing Springbok with more caps to add to the cap count? I think the contrary, too much experience is stifling the team. We have too many 2007 memories clouding the picture. There is no way of going backwards into the future. I also think that human nature remains that, flawed with its own bias. Can you see the rest of the team going sure, another test where Smit has not contributed, yip lets keep him there, to hell with Bismark who makes a difference. BS. I have a rule in my boardroom, we can fight internally but we will always present a united picture to the outside, always. SA Rugby?

      BardofAvon - 2011-09-12 07:04

      Great comment, Andrew.

  • Rob Jones - 2011-09-11 22:37

    Last two games the Boks have won they have only won by bad official decisions sooner or later the luck will run out. Hardly gives any Bok fans any confidence

      Wormtongue - 2011-09-12 08:11

      Hi BCC

  • Dr Yzterbaard - 2011-09-11 22:51

    Jo jo jo, so lucky! Pierre Spies is a waste, JP is way past his sell-by date. Sorry Victor, a single steal an then a passenger is not good enough. And dear Bryan? Time to go, you went sleg the day you took the money to leave Loftus. Poor Smit, he's the 5th member of this Glory Days brigade, a full third of the starting lineup is soft to the core. Perhaps the Islanders will do every green-blooded fan a favour and hospitalise these agterryers, we are being our own worst enemy here. And Gold, Muir and that snorman? Mental pedestrians, no flexibility in approach, never plays to the oppositions weaknesses, never put tactics ahead of selection, do not understand warfare and are praying that Jake White's spirits will prevail in the absence of strategy. This is so unnecessary, so stupid and so typically beaurocratic. Div is an opportunist. Muir has THE worst record in Super Rugby. Gold is a lightweight. How can the players respect them? Even worse, how can this coaching team then fire Smit, Matfield, Spies et al? Players revolution anyone? And I forgot to mention that unguided missile Butch James, arguably a living advertisement for self-inflicted brain surgery. What IS he doing here? Time to pray John Mitchell gets the call-up, just the man to show how pathetic, out of date and severely limited Saffrica's coaching talent is. 2011 will go down as the Biggest Waste in Springbok talent. Sorry Fourie, Heinrich, Frans and the Real Boks, thanks anyway for trying your best.

      vincent - 2011-09-11 23:31

      Muir was the first sa coach to have a team finish first in Super rugby! What are you talking about? I would rather have the unguided missile Butch there (already a world cup winner) than the human speed bump Morne Steyn.

      BardofAvon - 2011-09-12 07:09

      @ vincent: Can't you see the brilliance of Dr Yzerbaard's comments? Can't you see that without Morne Steyn we don't have a hope? Can't you see that Butch James is crushing liability? Eish.

  • namibia24 - 2011-09-11 23:02

    What I don't understand is the the way that they started and POOOOOFF!! it was gone? It just shows that they can be crisp and calculating, if they just kept the ball in hand and did the same for 40 mins then all this frantic commentary and personal attacks would have been praises. I am stumped!! Well hopefully we will get better at our intensity and at least reach the semi's and then re-evaluate and move forward.

      BardofAvon - 2011-09-12 07:11

      Hey, nam, I like that..."crisp and calculating"... Good one!

  • David Van Huffel - 2011-09-11 23:21

    Don't blame the Ref blame the Assistant refs who both were wrong and indecently one of them was kiwi. As for the boks, they were OK, If that was Australia in the same position they would have lost. Beware the wounded bok.

  • mycentswrth - 2011-09-11 23:37

    what a lot of bull!!!! Experience count fo nothing, if you miss tackles, too lazy to bend down and win the ball. too slow to get to the breakdown point first. give me a break experience, what a joke. The least experienced players saved the game. Wake up Div and smell the coffee. JS, FdP & JP should even be on the bench. Sarel Pretorius should be the 9. Quick, nippy and read the game.

  • Roeloff - 2011-09-11 23:38

    Imagine a Boks game, where we do no kicking into the other side's half? Almost unimaginable? You can, if you have a fit side willing to hold on to the ball with fit and able forwards that get to breakdowns ( Thank goodness for Heinrich B). That means more Bismarck and Alberts, less Smit & Spies while at the back you need Francois Hougaard (at Scrum half, as Fourie DuP's kicking is now old hat), Patrick Lambie as Fly Half (Morne can kick, but his defense and ball distribution are moving in the wrong direction), Gio Aplon at left wing (Habana...say no more) Critics will ask "How can you drop Morne- we need him to kick at goal!' My take is that we will score many more tries, and would not need a 100% kicking record to win matches...but as one of the readers mentioned...the coaching staff has no ....lls to fire Smit and his 'Éxperienced' team mates...

  • AtomicA - 2011-09-12 00:26

    Perhaps my grand father is more experienced than me when it comes to sex, but it does not mean he can do IT anymore. :P Now please leave so we can win the RWC.

  • Ruan - 2011-09-12 00:40

    SA was extremely lucky to come away with a win.......

  • tinaanddanie - 2011-09-12 00:53

    Div needs to get his selections right as we won't get another "get out of jail free" card... Smit played a hard game, but Bismark had a huge impact when he came on. What happened to Spies... I think he only touched the ball twice... Pietersen, I am sorry to say was useless - both in defence and on attack. Hougard should definately replace him, but then Dupreez was slow and way too casual maybe Hougard should replace him for a couple of games so he can wake up. Butch was quiet at centre... we need a game breaker like Juan de Jong and as good as Frans Steyn's kicking was I believe we have a better full back in Aplon. Finally if Matfield is out for a couple of games we'll need someone with the same work rate and I don't think Muller is the guy.... Wikus is currently playing the best rugby of his carreer... No other lock has a better work rate than him and he can feel agrieved not to be there. WITH THE RIGHT SELECTIONS WE CAN BEAT ANY TEAM, EVEN THE AB'S!!!!

  • bapsfontein1 - 2011-09-12 00:57

    Be lucky if the Planks make the semi's. When Malema become President Rugby will be banned LOL. What wil the Planks do besides go fishing to the Vaaaaaaaal Dam.

      Safaripak - 2011-09-12 08:17

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  • piet.strydom - 2011-09-12 01:11

    Experience counts, and that is what cost us the cricket world cup... This was the right decision. The pressure in situation like this is unbelievable, and can only be handled by people with experience.

  • Zibster - 2011-09-12 03:51

    This is the best thing to happen to SA rugby - The end results will DEFINITELY be the end of DIV and Smit, nothing else can get rid of them.

  • Jon JJ - 2011-09-12 05:53

    No John, luck was the guys will be coming home early - your coach is a dingbat that shouldn't be anywhere near a Springbok rugby team.

  • Claude - 2011-09-12 06:16

    That may be so but Smit contributed nothing to the win - his performance had mainly a negative effect on the game.

  • Terrence - 2011-09-12 06:24

    opposition only play as well as you allow them ,get it together otherwise you will be watching with us at home

  • marius.roodt - 2011-09-12 06:35

    you know, for supposed bok supporters you lot really do only see the negative in the whole world. had this been a all black team, their supporters would bee over the moon with the win, and backing their boys all the way regardless. so its either you shut up, and support the boys, or go get a nice new jearsey with a different colour!! dont call yourself a bok supporter, and them bash the guys putting their bodies on the line week in and week out. bunch of over opinionated couch potatoes!!!

      Greegs - 2011-09-12 09:50

      People are referring to how badly they played.....if u can't see that you must rather support bowls or badminton!

  • ZeDon - 2011-09-12 07:22

    That was the proteas team, or didn’t anyone notice the lack of a springbok anywhere on the jersey? So we actually didn’t do too badly considering that our cricket team was playing rugby :-P Seriously though, how can we win games when we don’t even bother competing at the breakdown? The first time we pushed Wales off the ball was when Bismarck came onto the field & that was 60minutes into the game!

  • Hannetjie - 2011-09-12 07:25

    Definitely not a game the Springboks can be proud about. A few missed kicks by the Welsch to the poles and one that was debatable whether it was over or not????? We really need to brush up on our total game especially against a very physical Fidji and Samoa!!!!!! Come on Boks!!!!!

  • Eugene - 2011-09-12 07:32

    If there were still any doubts about whether John Smit is no longer good enough, this game dispelled those doubts. Same goes for Habana, Matfield and to Fourie du Preez. I couldn't even listen to Smit during the post-match interview. Why don't they just make him the spokesperson for the Springboks and get it over and done with? Sit dit af! Sit dit af!

  • steveroodt - 2011-09-12 07:38

    Well done to Smit and his team

      Facts - 2011-09-12 08:03

      The youngsters in the team, yes.

  • Phelpsfan - 2011-09-12 07:50

    What a load of crap!They were lucky to win!!!!!!!!Wales were completely dominant.People can say what they want about a wind being a win, but they won't beat a top side in a playoff. Too old. And some guys simply not good enuf. You can't start guys who you expect to substitute when the going gets too tough and expect guys like Hougaard to save your arse!Hands down, Wales were far superior and will go on to do well.

  • anfield - 2011-09-12 08:49

    No dead wrong Mr Smit, the ref won the game for you. You were second best on the day, yet still managed to pull off a dubious win. Get your youngsters off the bench and on the park at the kick off, not with 20 minutes to go. There are too many ,pass their sell by date, including yourself.

      Nobody - 2011-09-12 09:02

      That penalty against the boks (the one Wales missed), was given when the attacking player did not release. That was the reason the tackled player cold not release the ball. The bad calls were going both ways, hence the close score margin. Now go cry on your own forums.

  • James - 2011-09-12 08:55

    Read Subtext: "Experience is please don't kick me out of the RWC squad! I know Bizzie is the best no.2 in the world and his upper body strength allows him to turnover posession more than any other SA player (Brussow included) but...errr...wait what were we talking about?!

  • Greegs - 2011-09-12 09:03

    @ John Smit - Whatever you did right in the 2007 RWC is going to be outweighed in this years RWC. You will be remembered for being picked as captain when u didn't deserve your spot. Also being remembered for retiring when you were on top... do the right thing and fall on your it for your country!!!

  • gpwengineer - 2011-09-12 09:43

    John Smit should make way for Bismarck. It was like we were playing with 14 men for the first 60 minutes. Fourie du Preez also looked a bit out of sorts. His fitness levels must be questionable.