Bismarck not fond of bench

2011-09-20 07:30

Cape Town -  Springbok hooker Bismarck du Plessis says he would much rather play the full 80 minutes in a game than come off the bench as an impact player.

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There have been calls, both locally and worldwide, for Du Plessis to be included in the Springbok starting line-up ahead of John Smit at hooker.

And while the 27-year-old from Bethlehem in the Free State won't be tricked into saying anything derogatory about his captain Smit's role, he admitted he does not like to be branded an impact player.

"No, no, no, please - Don't call me an impact player," Die Burger newspaper reported Du Plesis as saying after a New Zealand journalist asked him whether he likes his bench-sitting role.

"I want to play the whole time. A guy that tells you he enjoys sitting on the bench is lying to you. But Peter de Villiers (Bok coach) told me what he wants from me and I'll gladly oblige," said Du Plessis.

Du Plessis says the worst part of warming the bench is "to sit there for an hour".

"And then you have to warm up. It's really not nice. You get stiff from sitting the whole time and then you have to stretch and jog next to the touchline. It's a bit of a pain."

After Ireland's shock 15-6 upset of Australia on Saturday, the Boks are expected to meet the Australians in the quarter-finals - except if Italy can somehow snatch a surprise win over Ireland in their Pool C encounter.

And Du Plessis has not ruled out any more more surprises, but should the Boks meet the Aussies, he feels they will nevertheless pose a big challenge, despite going down to Ireland.

"(Will) Genia and (Quade) Cooper remain top players in a very good season. David Pocock's return will make them a lot stronger," said Du Plessis.

The Boks play Namibia on Thursday. The match kicks off at 20:00 (10:00 SA time).


South Africa:
15 Pat Lambie, 14 Gio Aplon, 13 Jaque Fourie, 12 Frans Steyn, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Morné Steyn, 9 Francois Hougaard, 8 Pierre Spies, 7 Schalk Burger, 6 Willem Alberts, 5 Danie Rossouw, 4 Bakkies Botha, 3 CJ van der Linde, 2 John Smit (captain), Gurthro Steenkamp.

Substitutes: 16 Chiliboy Ralepelle, 17 Tendai Mtawarira, 18 Francois Louw, 19 Heinrich Brüssow, 20 Fourie du Preez, 21 Ruan Pienaar, 22 Juan de Jongh.

15 Chrysander Botha, 14 Danie Dames, 13 Danie van Wyk, 12 Piet van Zyl, 11 Heine Bock, 10 Theuns Kotze, 9 Eugene Jantjies, 8 Jacques Nieuwenhuis, 7 Jacques Burger (c), 6 Tinus du Plessis, 5 Nico Esterhuyse, 4 Heinz Koll, 3 Marius Visser, 2 Bertus O'Callaghan, 1 Johnnie Redelinghuys

Substitutes: 16 Hugo Horn, 17 Jané du Toit, 18 Pieter Jan van Lill, 19 Rohan Kitshoff, 20 Ryan de la Harpe, 21 Darryl de la Harpe, 22 Conrad Marais

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  • gooinat - 2011-09-20 07:38

    Does anybody like playing off the bench?????I must compliment Bissie on he's attitude because a lot of players would have thrown in the towel ages ago.

      Johnny-BB - 2011-09-20 08:02

      ....its a disgrace that the worlds best no 2, Bismark, has to stand back for grandpa has-been John Smit...!!

      roboman1 - 2011-09-20 08:56

      Thats why they insist that John Smit starts, so that he can wear the number 2 jersey, because he is the number 2 hooker in the world. (But actually he is the team leader, and winning is about leadership, and John Smit is a great leader, note that its an All Black journalist who posed the question, they would love to stir unrest in our team)

      Chuck - 2011-09-20 09:05

      If Bismarck was the best he would be Captain ! No doubt about his play which is brilliant but certain things do lack that keep him second to a captain. If he was the greatest, then he would be Captain

      GILLBERT - 2011-09-20 09:11

      @roboman so if its about winning please enlighten me how man games smit has won the last years

      FJ2 - 2011-09-20 09:17

      Vir eens stem ek saam met Johny-BB - ek dink nie Bismark behoort terug te staan vir John Smit nie. Nou wonder ek: is dit 'n geval van "great minds think alike", of "fool never differ"?

      Johnny-BB - 2011-09-20 09:33

      ...John Smit = quota player.... ........NOT in the team on merit....

      Shark-Chic - 2011-09-20 09:36 offence but that is just silly. Not every "best" player has to be captain. What are you on about? If that were the case then if Div fielded his "best" 15, we would have 15 captains?

      roboman1 - 2011-09-20 09:42

      @Gilbert, there is a very old saying, you gets stats and stats and lies, you can use stats to prove or disprove many things, but to answer you in simple terms, he has captained the Bokke to one world cup and we are doing pretty well in this one, so we seem to have the recipe right. And a good indicator of this is that everyone seems to be trying to disrupt our team harmony by pitting Bismarch against John Smit, but mostlly its the overseas journalists and some really dumb Safricans. Because it matters not who is the best hooker right now, it matters as to what is the best for the team during this tournament, and John Smit is Captain and first choice hooker, so us South Africans should support him and the team. I am a big Bismarck fan, he is amzing, and he is playing amazing rugby, and he is proving he is a great team man by standing back for the cause of the team. So let's get behind our team and their selections. The time to castigate is after the tournament when we get into post world cup analysis, then it is the time to assess what was right and wrong. Now we support! That is our job in this game.

      Sharkbite - 2011-09-20 09:56

      roboman1, I agree with you, it seems to be working right now. I do however really feel for Bismarck, he is the best hooker in the world, it must be very disheartening to sit on the bench. Smit is a great leader, but we only won the Wales game after he left the field and Schalk took over the captaincy...

      Theo - 2011-09-20 10:13

      Great leaders know when their time is up Smit is just holding on for extra cash.

  • Ya Beauty! - 2011-09-20 07:52

    Rugby is a business...big to say the least we have all had bosses that were crap but none the less they were our bosses, eventually they left and we got our turn, BISSIE your turn will come however at the moment John Smit is good business he does all the other things off the field that allow the rest of the team to focus on the your heart out everytime you get a chance....

      Grunk - 2011-09-20 08:24

      You have a strange idea of what the paramount reasons for picking a Rugby Captain are - about as strange as De Villiers and his co-selectors.

  • Travis - 2011-09-20 08:11

    I feel for the player, and we are going to need him to be at his best if we are going to win this trophy. Smit is finding form, and is such a great captain. At any other time, he would have been the first choice, and there are many that believe that he should be anyway. Keep it up Bizzy...we want you guys to bring that trophy home.

  • John - 2011-09-20 08:12

    I agree that Bismark is a talented player and a monster of a man, but his lineout work is unfortunately not as good as Smit's. In addition to this, he OFTEN loses ball in contact while he is trying to bash people out of the way -major weakness for me. I think the situation we have right now is perfect, when he comes on he makes an impact, especially in the rucks, and acts like a second fetcher to compliment Brussow...Lastly, I don't think his attitude is right at all! He is always bemoaning his situation, he needs to just get on with his role and make the best of it!

      odysseus - 2011-09-20 08:25

      some points I agree on, but I would prefer to see him play for most of the match rather than only 20 or 30 minutes.

      Grunk - 2011-09-20 09:21

      I'd love to your attitude if you were the best in the world and had to play second fiddle to a palooka

      Sharkbite - 2011-09-20 09:44

      John, how would you feel if you were in his situation??

  • wayne.nkuna - 2011-09-20 08:23

    from a very reliable source ...................france will win the world cup by 8 points

      pat2luke - 2011-09-20 08:30

      Who's the source, Marcel Marceau?

  • Grunk - 2011-09-20 08:28

    Mallet's problem was the reverse in that that he could not recognise that Skinstad was only a pure impact player and not the 80 minute player that Teichman was. That cost us that RWC and the reverse is going to cost us this one.

      roboman1 - 2011-09-20 11:59

      The only thing that may cost us this world cup are injuries, nothing else. If our locks hold out, we are bringing that trophy back here to SA

  • SAFFA-CAT - 2011-09-20 08:57

    I am going to repeat what I said on here, rather tongue in cheek last week. I said the Boks WC winning strategy is using a 'BENCH GONE VIRAL'. The Boks are planning on defending their title using the strongest bench in the tournament - end of. There will be no starts for Hougie, Beast, Bissie, Danie, Alberts etc in the knock-out games chaps....they will play 35 minutes, and smash the already tired opposition into oblivion (as long as our starters hold their own for the 1st 45 minutes) Many disagreed with me last week, but I DO believe that opposition coaches e.g. Deans and Henry, will have to think long and hard about their own starting 15 and bench splits/selections when facing the Boks. The Boks are indirectly forcing the oppo to deviate from their 'own planning & selections'. We are forcing them to play into our 'forward loaded' hands . A destructive bench like ours, especially in the forwards, has NO equivalent in this tournament - end of. And if we are to win this WC - this is where it is going to be won. Klaar.

      Fruit - 2011-09-20 09:12

      makes sense

      JanPierewiet - 2011-09-20 09:43

      @ Saffa-Cat. Whenever sifting through loads of idiotic comments to find anything substantial worth pondering on, I can always rely on you! Thanks.

      Sharkbite - 2011-09-20 09:48

      The major problem there is that our bench can't save the day if we're already 30 points behind....that's my worry! But you're right, if the starting XV can hold their own, our bench will win the game every time!

      MaestroX - 2011-09-20 10:00

      SAFFA, I agree, it’s a heck of a bench and although they don't like to be called "impact players" they do make a massive impact when they come on. My only 2 cents worth would be that if Smit is going to be the starting no 2, when he comes off, he and the likes of Bakkies should be shattered, absolutely stuffed from giving it their all for 50 minutes. So that when the rest come on for the last 30 minutes (can't leave it till the last 20) they just over power the opposition. It’s an interesting ploy and one that might very well work.

      Mack - 2011-09-20 10:14

      Totally agree.This is the most accurate and sensible comment i have ever read since the cup began. "drop smit, habanna" etc will never happen because our game plan is to have the experienced guys doing the hard yards with the bench (which will always be used) to supplement when the opposition tires. It's not that the guys on the bench are not as good as the starters, but rather that they are better impacters who will add extra zeal when called upon

      Ruck'n Punt - 2011-09-20 11:42

      In other words, the bench is, very insightful especially with regards to using the bench as an impact, I guess no other teams ever done that. Every team should focus only on the Boks because the Boks are the best bla bla bla, to some it up in two words "typical arrogance",

      shucky - 2011-09-20 13:37

      which Saffa is this??? as most of the time the comments made are utter rubbish and not rugby related.. this one however is spot on..

  • warerugby - 2011-09-20 09:57

    Bismark is amazing, but Smit Captain. That will not change so lets back them both for their role they have to perform to bring back the cup. After this RWC Bismark will start everything.

  • maddog69 - 2011-09-20 10:57

    Seeing that our road to the final just became so much harder, its time for PDV to make some hard decisions, first - Bismark must start, anyone who thinks John Smit is better than him dont know a thing about rugby, as for JS captaincy, do you really need such a great leader in a team thats got more than 800 caps, secondly, Fourie Du Preez should find his form very quickly, he has had a poor World cup and needs to step up. Thirldy, Pierre Spies, well he was ok against Fidji but against Wales I only saw him on the team sheet, he also needs to step up.

      roboman1 - 2011-09-20 12:07

      maddog, anyone who knows anything will notice that it is obvious that you do not qualify as knowledgeable. John Smit is the Skipper, only you and the All Black media will keep trying to downgrade Smit. And read Saffa-Cat's earlier comment, our strategy seems to be working as is. There is no point at this stage in sowing dissent amongst the players if you are a true SA rugby supporter with rugby nous

      Maverick - 2011-09-20 16:18

      Francois Pienaar was NOT the best open-side flank we had back in '95, yet his captaincy was possibly the one most important thing that helped us winning the cup (that, and Suzie, if you can believe the AB's! LOL). John has shown in the past what a great captain he is. If Jean Smith was fit, it would all have been different as I believe him to be our next captain, but for now we need John Smit on the field, to lead the Manne. Bissie is (in my mind at least) the best hooker in world rugby, and I feel sorry for him, but he knows his time will come. Right now all we can do is get behind Snor, Smittie, and Die Manne, and support our team!

  • jan du preeaz - 2011-09-20 18:24

    Bissie, don't worry, soon that walking and talking KFC ad is gone and then you will take your rightful place in the bok team. The entire WORLD knows that that hasbeen is a liability to the team, and you should be there. believe me, we all want to vomit when JS supporters hammer on the fact that he is in the team because of his leadership, that team is nowhere when he is on the field, as soon as Bissie comes on the forwards slaughter the opposition

  • Ryan - 2011-09-21 02:53

    What a waste of a world class player. Next world cup he will be 31/32 and getting to the stage of his career Smit is right now. How many players best years have been wasted because of selections like this? He could have been one of the greats of the game, but he is wasting his career sitting behind a has been, who shouldnt even be in the touring squad. Very sad for a gifted player.

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