NZ's Hore gets five-week ban

2012-11-28 16:09

London - New Zealand hooker Andrew Hore is set to miss Saturday's international against England at Twickenham after receiving a five-week ban on Wednesday for striking Wales lock Bradley Davies.

Hore's suspension will run until February 24 next year to ensure he misses three pre-season Super Rugby warm-up matches for the Highlanders.

Davies was taken to hospital after he was hit from behind by Hore inside the opening minute of world champions New Zealand's 33-10 win over Wales at the Millennium Stadium last Saturday.

VIDEO: Hore attack on Davies

International Rugby Board (IRB) judicial officer Professor Lorne Crerar of Scotland, ruled Hore's swinging arm was "inherently dangerous" but accepted the All Black hooker had not "intended" to make contact with Davies's head.

Crerar was initially minded to give Hore an eight-week ban for a 'top-end' offence of this type, but reduced the suspension to five weeks when taking into account such mitigating factors as the New Zealander's daily contact with Davies since the incident.

Given Hore is about to enter the close season, Crerar considered when the ban should end.

A statement issued by the Six Nations Committee, which oversees disciplinary matters for the IRB during the European autumn series, said Crerar had received "unreserved assurances" from All Blacks assistant coach Ian Foster, Hore and his legal representatives that missing three pre-season matches would have "significant and meaningful consequences" for the player.

With veteran hooker Keven Mealamu currently struggling with a calf injury, New Zealand coach Steve Hansen may have to give Dane Coles a first Test start when he names his team to play England on Thursday.

Hore's hit, not seen by South African referee Craig Joubert or his touch judges, left Davies with concussion that has ruled the Wales second row out of their European autumn series finale against Australia this weekend.

Wales assistant coach Rob Howley labelled the punch an "absolute disgrace," with the former Test scrumhalf insisting: "What Hore did has got no place on a rugby field as far as I am concerned."

Even the New Zealand rugby media, who along with the All Blacks themselves have long believed the side is often harshly treated by European disciplinary tribunals, wasted little time in condemning Hore's action.

Veteran rugby commentator Keith Quinn told Radio New Zealand listeners Hore had been guilty of a "boneheaded act" while the New Zealand Herald's Gregor Paul said: "Andrew Hore's act of stupidity will have confirmed in every Northern Hemisphere mind the long-held notion of the All Blacks as perennial thugs."

New Zealand will arrive at Twickenham on a 20-match unbeaten run, having won their last nine Tests against England.

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  • lionel.kemm.9 - 2012-11-28 16:11


      cape.maori - 2012-11-28 16:37

      Why? Please explain

      Jimmy NZ - 2012-11-28 16:44

      Because he didn't eye gouge like a certain player of his!

      sharkie.fin - 2012-11-28 16:58

      @both idiots. Hore concussed him with a blatant punch and a knee to his head. He had to be hospitalized for a serious concussion. A smaller human would not survive such an attack. No excuse! He was very lucky to only get five weeks!

      Jimmy NZ - 2012-11-28 17:41

      Oh no, it's the little choking guppy poet!

      BulletjieBulBul - 2012-11-28 18:09

      Wake up you platberg sissies. This is a man's game. Man up or get a Newlands season ticket!

      joneethling - 2012-11-28 18:45

      Disgracefull!!!!!!! How can they ban a guy for klapping a player who was obstructing him. Should have been 5 days, counting from last week.

      donavan.boshoff - 2012-11-28 19:26

      The IRB should be held accountable for Hore's actions they have let this sort of thing go on far too long and you cant blame the kiwis they are simple shepherds, who have been given free reign to do what they want on the pitch, its like giving a hobo a million bucks. Maybe a change is a blowin in the wind.

      chrisin.oz.1 - 2012-11-29 01:43

      Bulletjie Moftus-troffeekas cleaner, sal jy nie graag 'n Nuweland seisoenkaartjie wil he nie om weer te sien hoe jou pink pansie sissies van die veld af gedra word met gebreekte bene nie?

  • chiepner - 2012-11-28 16:20

    So he swung his arm, but did not attend to hit him in the face which means swinging your arm and hitting the dude in nuts should of been deemed okay?

  • richard.schmode.9 - 2012-11-28 16:27

    not long enough

      Jimmy NZ - 2012-11-28 16:45

      I agree, needs to get rid of that type of behaviour (including eye gouging) from rugby. But have heard that he and Thompson could be out of the AB's anyways!

  • johann.kotze.397 - 2012-11-28 16:53

    Just imagine the same incident by Schalk Burger, Bakkies Botha, Flip van der Merwe or now recently Eben Etzebeth...? The "top end" (8 week) punishment would have been extended to 12 weeks BECAUSE the player had daily contact with the victim. It would have been contact with the intent to cause grieviously bodily harm! Double standards for the poor choir boys called the All Blacks. I have inmense respect for them but they are so protected by all and sundry its scary. Bakkies 9 weeks for headbutting Cowan...a swinging arm to the head, from behind? 4 weeks

      Flemstone - 2012-11-28 18:35

      What about Greyling only getting 2 weeks then? Bakkies giving a headbutt is far worse. Bakkies was also a repeat offender. Schalk was found guillty of eye gouging and also got a very short suspension. You'd have to be pretty biased not to see this. I think 5 weeks is about right. Compare this incident to Andy Hazell who got 14 weeks for going completely nuts.

      Caleb - 2012-11-28 21:26

      @ Flemstone, you are absolutely correct but they only see what they want to see! Burger got 8 weeks but refused to apologise to the player he eye gauged, Hore has shown remorse and has kept in touch to make sure the bloke is ok.

      donavan.boshoff - 2012-11-29 09:33

      bakkies headbutt was worse than a cheap shot from behind followed by a knee drop to the back of the head thereby causing a concussion? are you sure flem? Schalk wasn't found guilty of eye gouging just making contact with the eye area.

      Flemstone - 2012-11-29 11:06

      "Eye-gouging is a serious offence in rugby union where a player uses hands or fingers to inflict pain in an opponent's eyes. The game's laws refer to it as "contact with eyes or the eye area of an opponent" but such incidents are usually referred to as "eye-gouging" among players and in the media." Does that help you understand Dono.

      donavan.boshoff - 2012-11-29 15:33

      loud and clear flem ahem

  • stirrer.stirrer - 2012-11-28 16:59

    This is BS. If he didn't intend to make contact with Davies' head, where did he intend to land it? Davies was upright, so he couldn't argue that Davies ducked into the swinging arm. This was unprovoked, cowardly from behind, they should have thrown the book at him. Dare I say... it's because he's an All Black?

      BulletjieBulBul - 2012-11-28 18:14

      It is the same as when I would hit you with a running "bulklap" against the ear. While my klap is on the way to connect with your ear I might change my intentions but then it is to late. You will be in viskop heaven in no time china!

      joneethling - 2012-11-28 18:49

      Clean punch - win by KO in round one. Players get coached to run obstructive lines. Something needs to change.

      Caleb - 2012-11-28 21:27


      chrisin.oz.1 - 2012-11-29 07:08

      Would you care to share the "FACTS" with us. Or do you again have nothing to back your stupid comments up.

      Caleb - 2012-11-29 21:51

      Have you even watched other angles Chris? i suspect not because you sound like a typical Saffa hell bent on persecuting the AB's at any chance you get, just jump on the bandwagon without any real research, hey iots the South African way. In the aerial footage,you can see Davies look behind him twice and change direction obviously twice to obscure Hore in approaching the ruck, go find the footage yourself if you dont believe me, theres enough evidence there, but n true SA fashion, i suspect you will just turn a blind eye to it.

  • Jimmy NZ - 2012-11-28 17:26

    I really think his actions were disgraceful, but you gotta to love how 'some' bok supporters that have in the past condoned and even honoured similar actions and are now crying about the All Blacks. Your team and players have done the same and worse! Stop being such a bitter and hypocritical bunch of sore losers! Get your own house in order and start playing some decent rugby then maybe this constant crying foul and complaining can come to an end!

      sharkie.fin - 2012-11-28 17:49

      New Zealand has been the best team for ages, but the IRB does not treat them the same as opposed to Australia. Rob Simmons gets eight weeks for a tip tackle, reduced to five after appeal. Adam Thompson gets one week for stepping on a players head increased to two weeks after a judgement. Andrew Hore only gets five weeks for assaulting Davies of the ball. I think most people are crying about double standards.

      steve.vanrooyen - 2012-11-28 17:57

      Feck off you! name even 1 indecent in the last 10 year where a South African has done that! You're a joke Pal and should be ashamed but instead it's 'The Springboks are worse' Feck off you plank!

      BulletjieBulBul - 2012-11-28 18:30

      Jimmy The only complaints you will hear on this blog is from the sissies from down under by the platberg. Real men don't cry about stuff like this. I will like to hear them moan next year when Wynand "The Widowmaker" Olivier take a few of them out.

      donavan.boshoff - 2012-11-28 18:35

      jimmy how many boks were cited on this tour? the journey of a thousand miles begins with one step. knob

      Flemstone - 2012-11-28 18:37

      Greyling only got 2 weeks. Everyone is completely ignoring this fact.

      Jimmy NZ - 2012-11-28 19:43

      @steve, skalk, bakkies, greyling, du plessis (both), flip....

      kevin.moxham.3 - 2012-11-28 21:11

      jim old chap - did the AB's eventually win a second world cup - you seem so opionated these days....!!

      Caleb - 2012-11-28 21:30

      Oh dear Steve, where would you like us to start, and Dono, there have been many many NH tours where AB's havent been cited and SA players have, your comment is ridiculous and highlights how much rugby you watch.

      chrisin.oz.1 - 2012-11-29 07:02

      Caleb, are you just criticizing other people's comments, or do you have an opinion of your own as well?

      donavan.boshoff - 2012-11-29 09:36

      caleb/jimmy i'm not talking about previous tours i'm talking about this tour. How many Boks were cited? Also did you know the first person to be sent off the pitch was a peewee?

      Flemstone - 2012-11-29 11:08

      Dono I'm not sure why you're asking this question. Etzebeth got cited, and Greyling got suspended. If you look at super rugby stats, plenty of SA and NZ players get cited. The Aussies get quite a bit less.

  • - 2012-11-28 17:43

    Part of the modern game, if you don't like go play Hockey or Netball. Rugby is for men, not sissies.

      sharkie.fin - 2012-11-28 18:22

      Obvious troll is obvious

      vark.nek.90 - 2012-11-28 18:40

      Hello PdV

  • steve.vanrooyen - 2012-11-28 17:54

    BOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!! should be 8 weeks and to say "not deliberate" is a fecken lie!

  • stompies.hattingh.5 - 2012-11-28 18:09


  • Kirwan - 2012-11-28 18:23

    why 5 weeks and not 5 international matches ?

      donavan.boshoff - 2012-11-28 18:37


      Caleb - 2012-11-28 21:34

      That is the standard for all citings, ALL bans are base on weeks and not games.

  • leon.leroux - 2012-11-28 19:01

    Wow at last a Citing Officer who had the guts to give a dirty NZ player a good whack - they usually get away with a slap on the wrist. Good job Professor Lorne Crerar of Scotland !!!

      dave.roberts.182940 - 2012-11-29 05:16

      Leon, you are too old to comment. Go play with yourself and your saggy old ball sack.

      donavan.boshoff - 2012-11-29 17:08

      another constructive comment from dave the doughnut

  • SirFGrumpy - 2012-11-28 19:28

    This is totally unacceptable. A 1st doping offender gets 24 months, this guy acted violently in fact so much so that they should charge him for with assault with intent to do grievous bodily harm. He gets 5 weeks? Its time to start a Facebook page to drum him out of rugby permanently.

      Flemstone - 2012-11-28 21:15

      Well Sir that means everyone who gets a red card could be charged. 5 weeks is about right for this incident. Its time to start a page to point out how biased SA supporters are. Even Jean de Villiers got a suspension 2 years ago. Francois Hougaard also got a week off earlier in the year. Andries Strauss got 2 weeks. Butch James got 4 weeks. Elstadt, 1 week. The Blues a Kiwi team got hit harder than nearly everyone else put together. Luke Braid - Rd. 4 v Stormers - striking Nizaam Carr - guilty plea - 3 weeks Filo Paulo - (NZ suspension) - North v South match - striking Tom Donnelly - 5 weeks Rene Ranger - Rd.3 v Bulls - dangerous tackle of Bjorn Basson - guiltv plea - 2 weeks Peter Saili - (Blues suspension) - before Rd.6 - breach of team discipline - 2 weeks Francis Saili - (Blues suspension) - before Rd.6 - breach of team discipline - 2 weeks So lets please stop saying that NZ players are getting preferential treatment.

      Caleb - 2012-11-28 21:37

      SirFGrumpy, that is the most stupid comment i have ever seen on this website. The bias is unbeleiveable, take a look at your own Springboks thugs thugs before making such ridiculous comments. Bakkies who is a SA national hero was the biggest of them all, should he have got an assault charge for a full blooded headbutt?

  • kevin.moxham.3 - 2012-11-28 21:07

    what a weak and insignificant ban - this act warranted a ban of at least 12 games of rugby. Total disgrace..!!

      Flemstone - 2012-11-28 21:24

      Andy Hazell got 14 weeks. Now please tell me how these two incidents deserve nearly the same punishment? What do you think Greyling should have got?

      dave.roberts.182940 - 2012-11-29 05:18

      Greyling should have got more, the only difference is that that he hits like a sissy and Richie is made of steel.

  • chrisin.oz.1 - 2012-11-29 06:38

    Oh the horror!! He misses three warm up games. So in effect he only misses one game then? Pretty much the same as Adam Thompson originally got.

      Caleb - 2012-11-29 21:54

      Everyone misses weeks instead of games in bans, why should this be any different? I suppose you would just be happy for an AB to get a harsher ban that was is the standard set by the IRB.

  • vernon.annandale.7 - 2012-11-29 08:17

    Once again just a slap on the wrist for a AB and a slap in the face of World Rugby,can not wait for the fall of the mighty AB,coming back down to earth is going to hurt and I'm going to smile

      dave.roberts.182940 - 2012-11-29 10:38

      The Fall of the ABs? It hasn't happened for the last hundred or so years so what makes you think it will happen in your lifetime? You just need to get use to ABs being the best by a long long way.

      Flemstone - 2012-11-29 11:09

      The AB's need to fall for the Boks to catch up.

  • manuel.p.quintino - 2012-11-29 12:08

    I remember an incident where Breyton Paulse (playing AB's in Christchurch) got 4 weeks for trying to get his foot free from a ruck but was accused of kicking a player on the ground. 2005 British and Irish Lions tour, Nonu drove O'drisccol head first into the ground and this went unpunished. A year later Ali Williams punched Johan Muller in the face right infront of officials, also went unpunished. 2008, Ranger shoulder charged Kirschner but it was J De Villers who got a 3 week ban for a tackle for less harsh. All Blacks are protected

      Flemstone - 2012-11-29 14:19

      Hore just got 5 weeks and you claim they're protected? Guildford got 4 weeks for having a few beers last year. Then you have to take a look at how many NZ players received suspensions during the super rugby season. They're not protected, stop being silly. Ali Williams was in fact suspended for 6 weeks in 2005. Stop only looking for incidents that support your opinion Manuel.

      manuel.p.quintino - 2012-11-29 17:31

      The point I am trying to make is that when it comes to citings, the Springboks are usually targeted and are judged harshly (ie, the '07 World Cup where F Steyn was cited for biting but there was no evidence of this and the person who initially cried fowl never came forward. Burger who went for the ball in the air but bumped Samoa's scrummy. Etzebeth in the last few months. Bakkies cleaning out Jones. I could go on and on). The All Blacks (we talking international rugby here) usually get off lightly. I could give you a number of reasons but you'll still be in denial and say I'm being silly. Why are so defensive of the kiwis anyway?

      Caleb - 2012-11-29 21:56

      The point you are making is flawed because your facts are not correct

      manuel.p.quintino - 2012-11-30 08:04

      I stand to be corrected on the Williams-Muller incident, but otherwise explain your statement.

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