Kings to appeal SARU decision

2012-08-16 17:48

Cape Town - Southern Kings president Cheeky Watson says they will appeal the one-year Super Rugby agreement handed to them by the South African Rugby Union (SARU).

SARU on Thursday announced that the Kings would play in the 2013 Super Rugby competition, with the Lions dropping out for at least one year. The bottom team in 2013's competition will then play in a two-legged promotion and relegation series against the Lions.

But Watson is unhappy that SARU has only guaranteed his team one season of Super Rugby.

“I think it is a ludicrous decision," he told SAPA.

"It doesn't make sense in rugby, not in business, not in the church.

"It doesn't make sense in any sector of society that you are sitting with a scenario that you are in Super Rugby for one year and expected to achieve."

He then later told the Ballz Radio station that they will appeal SARU's decision.

"It cannot be accepted," he said, and replied with a very firm "yes" when asked if they will try and lodge an appeal.

They believe they should be given the right of at least three years in the top flight.


  • RetiefC - 2012-08-16 17:51

    Ek dink eerder dat die Lions moet appelleer teen die simpel besluit.

      Taurus.Blue1 - 2012-08-16 18:01

      Four words I hate: Racism, apartheid and Cheeky Watson

      francois.smith.7 - 2012-08-16 18:07

      Taurus, those are five words. Cheeky, you have a guarantee if you win your game against the Lions next year in the promotion relegation match. If you have played Super Rugby for a season and the Lions would not have and you are beaten, then surely they deserve the chance? You can count yourself lucky that you did not have to play that game this year and as for preaching, does your Bible not tell you that you shall not bear false witness. You have always been saying that you are ready and that you should be given the chance, but now it seems as if you are not? Which one is the lie. SBTW, you look better without the beard, then we can see what you are talking too.

      erich.oosthuizen.3 - 2012-08-16 18:20

      Nog n politieke besluit deur die anc,

      erich.oosthuizen.3 - 2012-08-16 18:21

      Dis n politieke besluit, niks anders.

      squeegee.pilot - 2012-08-16 19:21

      Watson stole the cake and now wants the oven it was baked in...

      nick.mullet.35 - 2012-08-16 20:18

      Tis doesn't make sense in the church nor the studio

      christo.t.ferreira - 2012-08-16 20:49

      Nick please shut the f up you ding bat,,,,,,

      wynand.kruger1 - 2012-08-17 06:23

      The word KP used come to mind, I cannot believe Watson is not happy with this freebie, arrogant....

      TravieGrif - 2012-08-17 09:14

      Having the Super Kings in Super 15 does not make sense in rugby or business. I guess you could argue that it makes sense in church, where one could believe in miracles, but that is the only place. I don't want to disparage against the Eastern Cape, because I truly believe that rugby development in EVERY area is a good thing, but we all know that this has been done the wrong way...on the political playing field, and not on the rugby field. Work your way up, get the sponsorships, get the players, win the tournaments and promotion/relegation games, and make a success of your area. Don't take hand-outs and become and embarrassment to yourselves, your area, and SA rugby.

  • jacobus.vandermerwe.9 - 2012-08-16 17:53

    His team can't even qualify for the premier league in the Currie Cup! The relegation match should be played now this year, let them prove themselves

      suidlander.vanwyk - 2012-08-16 18:28

      Listen very carefully, KINGS are in lions are out

      andres.dewet - 2012-08-16 18:54

      Listen very carefully: They didn't qualify, they were given a free pass. Thus people being hostile towards them. If they could have proved themselves by day one by being able to even win a Currie Cup match-up, then work their way into SuperRugby, people wouldn't be so dismissive of your politically SARU orchestrated provincial preferential treatment.

      dawood.timol - 2012-08-16 19:41

      @ aaman with the hiding the lions got the last super rugby season,the lions might as well disband,and give the southern kings a chance

      andres.dewet - 2012-08-16 19:44

      @Dawood: It's the premise. It DOESN'T work that anywhere in the world. Yes, the Lions have been dismal. However, the global norm and sportmans-like and fair norm is to play for relegation: Lions vs. Kings. Two lowest on the log vie for the premier spot. Fair is fair: SARU is politically motivated and thus, the Kings start their first season off on a sour note. Better done properly than freebies, but hey this is SA, that's what we seem to do best.

      ChrisinOz294 - 2012-08-17 00:44

      @suidlander.vanwyk. Listen carefully: the Kings will be bottom of the log in 2013 out in 2014.

      wayne.redman.7 - 2012-08-17 10:07

      Lets even make it easier for them--if they beat Griquas they can go up--already our bet is safe

  • - 2012-08-16 18:01

    Ridiculous. Never enough. Maybe move on up to the currie cup then you'd have a stance. At the moment like spoilt brats "its not enough I want more". Why not just wait until 2015 before changing anything. This would give EP time to move up the ranks to CC and by that time SARU can get SA an extra spot in SR. Da craziness. Someone said boycott SR, maybe they are right.

      nick.mullet.35 - 2012-08-16 20:21

      If every south African switches the channel to something else and switches off the tv during their games, dstv will see the numbers drop and it will be obvious that everyone is saving electricity. If u lot r serious about boycotting, cancel your dstv subscriptions. Yah didn't think so, not enough collective balls. Sit by complacently and bend over

      christo.t.ferreira - 2012-08-16 20:51

      Nick please p off

      TravieGrif - 2012-08-17 10:35

      You know NIck, your point is a really good one. I wonder what it would take to rally SA rugby supporters together to take action. This would not be an "anti-Kings" sentiment, but anti SARU for not doing things that right way. I have said before that I want to see rugby development, but this is not being done the right way. Who from the Eastern Cape is going to love seeing their team mauled week in and week out? How does that provide development? I hope that I am wrong, but the current view that I see of the Kings struggling in the Vodacom Cup says that I am not.

  • marnusmnorval - 2012-08-16 18:03

    "It doesn't make sense in rugby, not in business, not in the church." Why bring the church into this you inbred. The kings will bring cricket scores and you and your family will be the laughing stock of SA, NZ and AUS

      joubert.joep - 2012-08-16 18:17

      His name is not Cheeky for nothing! At least Puke will get a chance to play proper rugby again - hope none of the Lions players join them and they get scores over a hundred against them! What a stupid decision.

      suidlander.vanwyk - 2012-08-16 18:30

      No they won't be, Lions have allready done that for SA, you are the only laughing stock Inbred Idiot

      sparkie.spannenberg - 2012-08-16 18:56

      He has to bring the church into this, because the Kings will have to pray non-stop not to lose a game by less than 30 points.

      nick.mullet.35 - 2012-08-16 20:22

      Suidlander that comment doesn't make sense in the church

      christo.t.ferreira - 2012-08-16 20:50

      Nick shut the f up you moron

      ChrisinOz294 - 2012-08-17 00:47

      @marnusmnorval. The Kings are already making SA rugby the laughing stock. The people in Aus all say it is pathetic that SA Rugby can't sort out their sh#t and they are all looking forward to playing the Kings.

  • Jacques - 2012-08-16 18:05

    Every second they spend playing MediocreRugby (Or SuperRugby, whichever name you prefer) is one second too many, so if I were him I'd be relieved.

  • jackson.mosedi - 2012-08-16 18:09

    Huh???? If you can't beat the poorest super rugby team, how are you going to beat any team in the competition? Cheeky already knows they will not be able to beat the Lions, which won the CC last year, when last did the Kings won anything? Anything? They can't even reach the CC??

      marnusmnorval - 2012-08-16 18:10

      he is just doing this for the money

      Alan - 2012-08-17 08:23

      You are right jackson. The Kings are like the Stormers. Haven't won a thing for years and years.

  • chester.tobias.3 - 2012-08-16 18:17

    I don't know who is worse, cheaky or province managemint

      suidlander.vanwyk - 2012-08-16 18:32

      WP and SARU

  • gregory.f.dean - 2012-08-16 18:26

    This whole issue is a joke. SARU has egg on its face

  • beau.schoeman - 2012-08-16 18:28

    As the saying goes,\If you fail to plan, you plan to fail.\ I still believe in the process of progression. The manner in which this decision was made to promote the EP Kings to S15 rugby is almost like a BEE or FREBIE approach. They should first be given the opportunity to prove their worth and match their competition level against Currie Cup contenders BEFORE being promoted to S15. The way the decision was taken, somehow makes me feel that there is more to it than the eye sees...a hidden agenda.

      blou.johnny - 2012-08-16 22:52

      ...Southern Losers.. .....a political joke...!! ....Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ..!!

  • warren.carne.9 - 2012-08-16 18:32

    Typical Cheeky,wants something for nothing,how about play for the spot on MERIT,I hope these EP Kings crash and burn,I'm even going to support Aussie trys scored against them,its like a govt team being placed in the competition

      ChrisinOz294 - 2012-08-17 00:49

      @warren. ANC mentality: demand, demand, demand. Take, take, take. Demand more, demand more, demand more, etc. etc. etc.

  • suidlander.vanwyk - 2012-08-16 18:33

    Make sure Cheeky that these SARU idiots give us at least 5 years, They gave Lions 10 years and gave WP lot more

      nads.delange - 2012-08-16 18:44

      You're a real joke aren't you comparing last year's Currie Cup champs and the top of the log S15 team this year to the Kings who can't even make the Currie Cup Premier Division. Hilarious!!!

      deon.fouche.3 - 2012-08-16 18:52

      Tussen jou en cheeky weet ek nie lekker wie die grootse sot en idioot is nie!!!!!!

      ChrisinOz294 - 2012-08-17 00:53

      @suidlander: No, no why stop there???? Why not demand that the 2013 S15 trophy be given to the Kings. The same logic applies. The Kings get included without proving they are good enough. Why not give them the trophy without proving that they are good enough to win it. You just want 5 years inclusion? Don't aim so low. DEMAND more.

      suidlander.vanwyk - 2012-08-17 07:51

      just to answer you all, your unions have been palying super rugby for ages and they have f all to show except Bulls, so whether you like it or not, you are same as us except that you have been loosers for years

      stirrer.stirrer - 2012-08-17 11:08

      Suidlander - SARU gave you a a chance for as long as Super Rugby is played. It's exactly the same chance that all the other teams now have. Just don't end up bottom of the SA conference, and if you do, win your promotion/relegation match. Easy peasy.

      kobus.engels - 2012-08-17 11:11

      One thing or saying comes to mind as i read your comments. "Don't argue with idiots because they will just bring you down to there level and beat you with experience". you are such a joke right now just like the team that you are supporting and listen up boet since you think you know everything. atleast the WP, lions or any other union even the pumas can prove there worth by playing decent rugby and to be able to win matches at a high level. the only teams that you guys can beat on a good day is the c teams of the unions currently in the S15 which is a challenge at this stage for your team so whats going to happen in Super 15 well everytime a team is up against the kings they will see it as a Bye weekend..... a training session against themselves......

  • steyts - 2012-08-16 18:36

    I wonder what SARU would do if most South Africans just don't watch their games at all... TV viewership down the drain and no money at the gates... That would be a great way to let them know that this decision is ridiculous!!!!! Let them lose more money than they would have with the lions...

  • nads.delange - 2012-08-16 18:40

    This is pathetic, and will make a mockery of SA rugby! Cannot believe that Cheeky has the audacity to expect even more than the handout he's already been given. But wait, I forgot, that's how it works right? \I've already been handed something that I cleary don't deserve, but no, it's not enough, I demand more!!\. Can't wait to thump his troops 100-0 next season!!

  • steveroodt - 2012-08-16 18:40

    Prove yourselves before you earn the rite your not even contenders to win any Rugby match that includes school boy rugby. Cheeky your political connections got you to this stage now shut up and see how far you get.

  • louis.langenhoven - 2012-08-16 19:05

    Cheeky looks wonderful in orange- a real US prisoner

  • paul.nel.376 - 2012-08-16 19:06

    Poor pathetic decision from SARU. Not in interest of rugby that Lions should make place for weaker team. Australia, NZ and all SA super rugby teams must protest and boycott to play weaker team! SARU makes Super rugby a circus! Lions will also battle to motivate own players with these irrational SARU decisions! Time for sponsors to stop this madness!!!!

  • francois.kloppers - 2012-08-16 19:19

    At least the Stormers will be able to get a bonus point in 2013 for scoring 4 tries in a game...

      nick.mullet.35 - 2012-08-16 21:16

      That's pushing it bud

  • LouisPVenter - 2012-08-16 20:25

    Ludicrous decision?? YES IT IS! Why are the Kings playing in the S15, that is ludicrous. Now you want to appeal. What a joke! Your team should play Curry cup for the next 5 years and once you beat the Curry cup teams then you should play a relegation game against the weakest team and if you win that you get you chance for 1 year!

      luke.sportify - 2012-08-18 07:33

      why do the Lions deserve to be there?

  • matt.prinsloo.1 - 2012-08-16 20:39

    I agree with Cheeky on this one. SARU knew for years now that this is coming. How can they expect the Kings to prepare on such short notice now and with only one year to perform? Give them a proper chance please! \r\nLooking forward to 1 or 2 suprises from the Kings...I am behind them ALL THE WAY!!!!

      nick.mullet.35 - 2012-08-16 21:15

      Yeah you're probably behind Luke Watson all night long too.

  • roland.gemmell - 2012-08-16 20:44

    At least we won't have the odd upset!! Occasionally the Lions would step up and beat their SA conterparts at the msot opportune time in the tournament. Now the SA teams will be gauranteed a win against the Kings (and of course the NZ & Aussie teams). Kings will not win one game in this tournament!!!!

  • done.louw - 2012-08-16 21:22

    At least PE will have full stadiums. The Lions have played so bad for so many years its not funny. If kings can earn some cash they might just attract some good players. Just give it a chance, nothing like pressure on bad playing teams to catch a wake up. Well done SARU best decision for rugby in long run

  • luccourtiade - 2012-08-16 21:25

    shhhh cheeky...u knew in jan u were playing. to the rest of the South African team supporters rem we get to play them twice....nice guaranteed 10 points!

  • schalk.niekerk - 2012-08-16 21:59

    The cheeky bugger.... give 'em the pinky and they take the hand.

  • christian.koegelenberg - 2012-08-16 22:10

    So what he wants is a guaranteed place for the Kings for life to go with his job for life and his spot in heaven for eternity. He really doesn't ask for much. He is such a humble man and an example for us all. He surely will be recognized as saint one day.

  • j.p.vandermerwe.35 - 2012-08-16 22:36

    cheeky die d@%s weet niks van rugbyaf nie f@k wat doen die kings jy hoor eers niks van hulle nie dit gaan maak dat die lions se spelers oorsee gaan en dan wat gaan hulle dan doen cheeky jou dom koos ek is sekker jy weet wa k bedoel met KOOS as nie sit n D voor

  • russel.lunt - 2012-08-16 22:39

    What a cheek!

  • alan.bennetto - 2012-08-16 22:55

    The Kings will be the laughing stock of world rugby (hey will get slaughtered.They can't even compete at Currie Cup level. Lions should be there.

      luke.sportify - 2012-08-18 07:34

      EP are currently leading the first division by 7 points, 8 games unbeaten, that's 1/3 of the 3 teams that make up the Southern Kings

  • ChrisinOz294 - 2012-08-17 00:42

    @Mr. Puke Sr. After next season when your wonderfull team lost by 100 points week after week, you will be glad to get out of the S15.

  • louis.botha.587 - 2012-08-17 01:26

    Should have been based on a relegation basis like the Currie Cup. If the Kings beat the Lions, they earn the right to play in the competition. What's next Luke Watson in the Springbok team again.

      luke.sportify - 2012-08-18 07:36

      that cant happen this year Louis, the Southern Kings need at least 1 year to become competitive They are not even a team and you want to make them play against the Lions...that makes no sense pal

  • bernard.ingram - 2012-08-17 02:28

    I think Cheeky has lost it completely. He is as useless as his son. We don't need either of them in SA rugby.

      suidlander.vanwyk - 2012-08-17 18:40

      actually we love them a lot here in EC, we just don't love you, woooooooooo

      luke.sportify - 2012-08-18 07:37

      His son would make any of the current Super 15 Teams, Cheeky seems to be doing wonders in the I guess you have lost it completely

  • bruce.dexter.5 - 2012-08-17 06:10

    Look on the bright side, this will weaken the SA conference and guarantee 10 points for the other four South African teams, which will help with their overall log positions.

  • vincent.vinsaint - 2012-08-17 06:24

    Yo have to play yourself in on merit Cheeky. This is a free ticket for your team. Disaster ous S15 in 2013. Anyway I'll be enjoying the whipping you gonna get, loosing by 100 point each game. Mxm.

  • jean.rossouwsa - 2012-08-17 07:31

    As hulle teen my span speel gaan ek hulle BOOOOOOOOO! Verdien dit nie!!, ENTITLEMENT RUGBY TEAM!!!!!! ENTITLEMENT RUGBY TEAM!!!!!! ENTITLEMENT RUGBY TEAM!!!!!! ENTITLEMENT RUGBY TEAM!!!!!!

  • jaco.smith.902 - 2012-08-17 07:32

    Volgende ding is seker n onwettige staking?? Ons-het-nie-als-gekry-wat-ons-gevra-het-nie!!!

  • leston.uithalder1 - 2012-08-17 07:39

    Its rite tht the Lions was relegated,they a disgrace 2 SARU,WHIPPING BOYZ 2 the other teams in Super Rugby,Cheeky is rite 2 appeal the 1yr deal on the table,4 all the years we supported franchise like the Lions bt knw tht its EP's time negatief things r said,ppl just live with the decision and support us,out the the old in with the new

      suidlander.vanwyk - 2012-08-17 07:55

      I agree Leston, but a lot of so called rugby fans are blinded by their hatred for Cheecky of which they only know him through newspapers, The fact is, SARU should give us 5 years, they have given all these other loosers many years and they have nothing to show for it except Bulls and yah Stormers have their plastic cups too (pathetic)

      vernon.annandale.7 - 2012-08-17 08:20

      You two are Pathitic! Really 5 years?! You guys should be ashamed,how about earning you spot in S15 by merit? I'm not against other teams getting a shot,if any team should have a shot it should be the griques,they at least can make the CC with the players they have! You guys call the Lions whipping boys?they CC champs and the 1st SA team to win a Super cup,wait till you see what happens to the kings next year,then you can talk about whipping boys! What's next are you guys going to want the rest of the teams to hand you the cup? Earn your spot,its that simple really! I might be a SHARKS sup but I also sup what is right!

      suidlander.vanwyk - 2012-08-17 18:44

      wow Verno rich coming from you, just please look up at history and see how Sharks actually managed to play CC, who intervened and why, until then I don't have anything to say to you

  • dssteyn - 2012-08-17 08:16

    Strill only fighting over last Place on the log, who cares, really? #StormersForLife

  • albie.buttner - 2012-08-17 08:44

    What does the church, and business and anything else he has to mention got to do with rugby.... The Kings have got there turn - use it or lose it! By the way - he looks like a convict with that orange shirt....

  • albie.buttner - 2012-08-17 08:58

    CW looks like a convict in that orange shirt firstly... I feel for the Lions but they did lose there way after the Currie Cup - maybe the year off will allow them to get there administration house in order - as for CW comment - what does business and religion and everthing else have to do with sport - earn your colour moron - apartheid is dead - get over it and get over yourself. If the Kings deserve to be there they will beat the best - if not - make way for the better team. Proudly South African - Proud Sharks Supporter!

  • johnvkaraoke - 2012-08-17 09:00

    why does watson not prove first the ep kings can make it in the super 15 compo than trying to get a 3 year freebie or is he just burning the bridge that has just been created for them. but then he is good at that

      martin.bause - 2012-08-17 12:07

      because people keep forgetting it is about getting a proper team together and the money to build that team. that is why they need time

  • martin.bause - 2012-08-17 12:00

    I wish people would start thinking for a change! For starters, Lions has historically been a rich province and how long have they had an opportunity to preform in the Super Rugby competition and they have consistently failed. Because of their wealth, they have been able to keep afloat. And then they do good in the currie cup... only because all the other provinces don't have their main players in and are playing B-teams. And what about the corruption and poor coaching that has been happening at the lions. This is actually more than enough reason to give the the boot. Now everyone saying that the kings have not preformed... The fact is now that they are confirmed for a Super rugby they can get investments to start building their team. But this is also not going to happen overnight. That is why watson is upset about not getting confirmation over a longer period. And all provinces buy players from different provinces and so what if they buy half the lions. Hopefully they can be treated better and play better.

  • werner.coetzer.311 - 2012-08-17 12:35

    Shut up en wees happy met een jaar! Puke Watson en sy spannetjie hoort ni eers in Currie cup nie

      luke.sportify - 2012-08-18 07:38

      to many brandies?

  • luke.sportify - 2012-08-18 07:32

    you make perfect sense Cheeky, SARU...bunch of spineless idiots Lets hope the Kings gets at least 3 years Great win for EP last over Boland, 57 points against last years finalists Imagine when you have the SWD/Border talent added to the squad and an extra 10 additions Lions....try keep your players,win the Currie Cup again. see you in 2016

  • mervyndelange - 2012-08-18 14:55

    Guys just post your comments on SANZAR webpage they may see the light. I'm an EP guy and grew up there, but do Iwant them to be given free passage and be the joke of the Century.....hell no, I was brought up to earrn my place. Cheeky should first build a team and prove himself, play a game against the Lions. It like a laaitjie fishing in the river and only catching little stompies and then sommer wants to go marlin fishing. Can he afford it? - No does he have the experience - No. But SA is the only country that fires a workd cup winning coach and put'd a Vodacom Cup team into Super rugby...eish hai soeka wena!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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