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Jones: England disrespectful

2012-12-11 09:03

Sydney - Former Australian rugby coach Eddie Jones has branded England as 'disrespectful' as a result of their actions during their win over the All Blacks at Twickenham last week.

According to allblacks.com website, Jones told The Daily Star that England coach Stuart Lancaster needed to sort out his side's cocky behaviour if they were to rule the rugby world in 2015. And he targeted centre Manu Tuilagi as the main offender.

Jones cited Tuilagi's attitude when strolling over the goal-line and standing 'statue-like, lapping up the crowd's adulation instead of trying to get nearer to the posts'.

"That's disrespectful to the world champions – and if they don't control that kind of thing they will not go forward as a team.

"You don't want to see that sort of thing creep into the game because it's not good for rugby," Jones, who coached Australia to the 2003 World Cup final, said.

"It doesn't wind up other teams but the game of rugby is about respect – and that's one thing we simply must keep in the game.

"New Zealand have scored numerous points against numerous teams and you never see any of their players do that," Jones said.

"They run hard and try to get under the posts to make the kick as easy as possible."

Jones said he expected the England management would have been upset at Tuilagi's attitude.

At the same time Jones said England's win proved nothing.

"It's only one game. The pressure was off and they played without fear.

"They were not expected to beat the world champions. They have won one Test against a top country. How many times have the beaten New Zealand in the last nine years?" he asked.

"The secret of a very good team is consistency and New Zealand have won 88 percent of their Tests. England have not done that since 2003 when they had a very good team.

"The big thing now will be the next game and if, when they are expected to win, they can play like that again. That's the test," he said.

Jones said to win a World Cup teams needed to have around 600 caps. It was all about maturing and England needed around another 300 caps of experience ahead of the World Cup. They had the potential to have a very good team but they would need to eliminate the sort of arrogance Tuilagi had unveiled.

Sport24

Comments
  • she.is.here.777 - 2012-12-11 09:17

    Ag seblief man wat gaan jy sê as Jdj sy Samba dansies uitvoer nadat hy by die doelgebied gaan kuier het teen NZ? Old fart I love these "stupid" celebrations. Remember Rooney the other day with his bicycle kick? Legend Oom Ed!

      simone.dechandra.7 - 2012-12-11 09:27

      juan de jongh will never score a try against new zealand dont be ridiculous

      albert.marais - 2012-12-11 09:34

      Celebrating is one thing. And I do agree that the All-Blacks are guilty of overdoing it sometimes as well. But the arrogant show-boating of players like Tuilagi is disgusting and disrespectful. I'm with Eddie Jones on this one. It should not become part of the game. An Aussie sticking up for the All-Blacks? Who would've thought!

      she.is.here.777 - 2012-12-11 09:48

      Simone ek sien die brannas vloei weer sterk daar in cow town.

      Flemstone - 2012-12-11 10:23

      My response will be brief for a change. Digby Ioane...

      Jimmy NZ - 2012-12-11 10:54

      New Zealanders over doing it? Are you joking? Daggerz celebrated at SoccerCity and copped huge cr@p for that!

      dean.nogood - 2012-12-11 10:58

      In that case NZ have been "cocky" for the last 20 years and have brought untold shame to the game that is suppose to be played by gentlemen, not by idiots like Richy.

      simone.dechandra.7 - 2012-12-11 15:20

      what about the haka? a bit over the top if you ask me. there is no place in the game for that kind of aggrandized aggression like its some kind of cultural homage. it should be done in the dressing room or the national anthem of the home team should be played after the haka. its a joke and disrespectful and brings the game into disrepute to have grown men acting like wild savages

  • braam.groenewald.39 - 2012-12-11 09:26

    This story is atleast a week old

      BlouMasjien1 - 2012-12-11 10:01

      Province 24

      rodney.louis.7 - 2012-12-11 12:22

      its only old farts that doesn't enjoy a bit of showmanship !!! let the guys dance ,jump, shout .. we are human after all not mindless zombies...

      hugh.olphart - 2012-12-12 09:59

      Sadly the respect for the game in the southern hemisphere is crap at best. At least there's no booing and jeering the opposition in the English stadiums. THAT is respect for the game. Province supporters the biggest sondebok, with every other franchise following. That includes NZ and Aus. This is a game that we all love and breath, why can we not respect the opposition? AB's have only one world cup (the first one didn't count boys, the boks weren't there) but they are and have always been our most efficient competitor. Carter setting up a goal kick is a privilege to watch. The man is the best in the world. Enjoy the spectacle, it will be something to speak of when were all sitting in an old age home wearing diapers. Remember the clean cutting runs of Danie Gerber or David Camesey? This is why we love the game. The southern hemisphere has showed the world how rugby is played, don't let those warm ale and weak tea drinking yobos teach us manners.

  • solly.knoetze - 2012-12-11 09:26

    Typical Eddie Jones. We are still waiting for Mr Jake White's Comments. They are all looking for a job.

      squeegee.pilot - 2012-12-11 09:49

      And your rugby credentials are...?

  • chris.gill.9849 - 2012-12-11 09:27

    I remember years ago Roobie Fleck got cocky and thought he would just stroll under the poles to score a try against the Sharks. What he didn't see was Deon Keyser sprinting behind him and tackle him from behind, over the line, causing him to lose the ball... let the poms be cocky all they like, southern hemisphere teams will soon knock it out of them.

      BlouMasjien1 - 2012-12-11 10:09

      Thanks for brightening up my day,that incident personifies province rugby.

      wesley.green.3597 - 2012-12-11 11:43

      yoh!!! Deon Keyser!!! now thats some old school rugga!!!!

      gerrit.vanbreda1 - 2012-12-11 12:43

      As ek reg kan onthou was dit teen Boland in Wellington

      chris.gill.9849 - 2012-12-11 13:07

      @Gerrit, you're half right. It was Stormers vs Sharks, the game was played in Boland because they were still splitting the games between there and Newlands back then. The image of Deon Keyser getting up afterwards and doing a little air punch is stuck in my head forever.

      simone.dechandra.7 - 2012-12-11 15:22

      robbie fleck the mastermind behind the lowest try scoring team in super rugby

      hugh.olphart - 2012-12-12 10:02

      Wasn't that sensational?

  • chez.kri - 2012-12-11 09:29

    And your team sticking their tongues out at the opposition during a stupid dance is also disrespectfull. Shut your arrogant mouth. You lost, get over it.

      brian.trebble.98 - 2012-12-11 09:46

      He was actually the Ausie coach!!!! so I do not think has team have stuck their tongue out much!

      honestraymond2003 - 2012-12-11 09:52

      Haha.... The stupidity of the unknowledgable... He is australian chez!

      chez.kri - 2012-12-11 10:27

      An Australian born and bread or does he have Maori in him? Just saying!!

      Jimmy NZ - 2012-12-11 10:50

      First off idiot, Jones is an Auzzie and he has more ties to SA than to NZ. The Haka is totally about respect, it's a challange! Ask any Bok and they will agree wholeheartedly!

      andre.schutte.319 - 2012-12-11 10:59

      @ ninershoka. Looking at your comment actually shows who the real racist here is. Shame on you.

      chez.kri - 2012-12-11 11:33

      Good grief people, take a bl**dy chill pill. You don't know me and don't even know what race I am!! What makes you think I'm "lilliy white anyway? So I thought he was part Maouri, so what. I think Zuma is part Zulu; am I racist for saying that? I amde a mistake about his race group - thats all. It doesn't mean I think less of Maouri people. He is still arrogant and I still ahte the Haka. Now go make mroe ugly comments and thank heavens i don't know any of you awful lot!!

  • john.turner.58760608 - 2012-12-11 09:30

    Sounds like sour grapes to me.

      Flemstone - 2012-12-11 10:30

      He's a former coach so one can only assume he's looking for attention. I personally enjoy the guys putting on a bit of a show. Its a professional game now, they're paid to entertain us. Where exactly does Jones draw the line? I don't appreciate guys making the sign of the cross and then pointing to the heavens. How about thanking your team mates for helping you score the try? Tuilagi can remove this part from his celebration. Imagine a player thanked Allah after scoring a try?

  • paul.coetzee1 - 2012-12-11 09:30

    And I suppose sticking out your tounge and pulling faces at the opposition is respectful! Yeah Right

      nico.eksteen.7 - 2012-12-11 17:41

      I think it's just childish and makes the kids laugh.

  • will.hodge.524 - 2012-12-11 09:32

    Nothing wrong with celebrating

      BlouMasjien1 - 2012-12-11 10:25

      There is a difference between celebrating and cocky behaviour (ok maybe not for the okes from the platberg)

  • Sittingbourne - 2012-12-11 09:48

    I was at the England v New Zealand game and saw nothing cocky. We deserved our win but as said in the report, it was only one game. We (England) still have a way to go.

      BlouMasjien1 - 2012-12-11 10:03

      Saw nothing cocky? That's why drinking should be banned at sporting events

      Jimmy NZ - 2012-12-11 10:47

      You did deserve the win, but I suspect you might have been watching the woman's game taking place on the same day!

  • ronnie.duplessis.7 - 2012-12-11 09:48

    I agree with Eddie, when last have you watched Premier League soccer match and see how the players speak to the ref!! Is that what you want in Rugby? If it is, I plead with you to change and support another sport. Rugby is a gentleman’s game and I for one would like to see it remain that way.

      she.is.here.777 - 2012-12-11 10:08

      Part of the fun as a spectator. I mean look at Rio F, went looking for it and got a coin against the eye...lol pee-nut.

  • shane.asselbergs - 2012-12-11 10:53

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_rugby_union_matches_between_England_and_New_Zealand 'nuf said.

  • mark.liversedge.7 - 2012-12-11 14:37

    Ah suck it up. England players show passion and enjoyment. Some has-been moans about respect.

  • harvey.dent.16547008 - 2012-12-11 15:09

    Is Jones on tik? Just watched some replays of the try and I saw nothing disrespectful. In fact I saw nothing that I haven't seen from a hundred other rugby players a hundred times before, including many Kiwis, Aussies and Boks. Where did he "stand like a statue" a'la Rooney? Did I watch the correct clip?

      harvey.dent.16547008 - 2012-12-11 15:16

      If you want disrespect, try Mehrtens at Loftus against the Bulls in the 1999 Super Rugby comp after he slotted the drop goal to win the game. (to be fair, he was getting heckled for the entire match)

      Flemstone - 2012-12-12 10:23

      Tuilagi has responded by saying he was simply tired. I can believe it. He spent most of the game pummeling the Kiwi's.

  • bruce.marcovich - 2012-12-11 15:57

    The last thing you should be doing is disrespecting the AB's because the next time you play them they will distroy you. They never forget and will not underestimate you again. England will not beat them again for another 10 years.

      nico.eksteen.7 - 2012-12-11 17:37

      Rubbish, they are only as good as they are allowed to play.

      jacowium - 2012-12-11 21:39

      @ Nico: The same goes for the opposition. The opposition can only play as well as the Kiwis allow them to play, you agree? Or, by your analysis, all teams playing the Kiwis must be poor, useless teams who make the All Blacks look good (90% of the time).

  • nico.eksteen.7 - 2012-12-11 17:35

    The AB's are cocky whenever they force their haka upon other teams. Just getting some of their own medicine.

  • margo.george.18 - 2012-12-11 18:59

    Eddìe Jones is Australian,so how can it be sourgrapes if the all blacks lose?

  • christie.serfontein - 2012-12-12 08:04

    What about the HAKA before rugby games? I can't think of anything more disrepectful than just the way it is executed by the All Black.

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