I am not a thug - Bakkies

2012-01-06 10:13

Johannesburg - Toulon lock Bakkies Botha has called on French officials to judge him on his actions, not his supposed reputation for being a dirty player.

The Springbok veteran made his Top 14 debut last weekend in Toulon's 25-6 defeat to relegation-threatened Biarritz having arrived in France following the World Cup to start a three-year deal with RCT.

Despite his colourful disciplinary record, the 32-year-old insists that his love for the physical side of the game does not necessarily make him a villain.

"I am not a thug. I love the battle, that's all," the 76-Test cap second rower told Midi Olympique.

Botha used two anecdotes from his past to illustrate how his reputation has a habit of proceeding him.

"I was given a three-week suspension a few years ago for pushing (Australia flank) Phil Waugh at a ruck," he explained.

"When it came to the disciplinary hearing, the judge asked me how many times I had been cited in my life. I told the truth - once. He did not believe me and asked me if I had personal problems, if I hit my kids... It was ridiculous.

"People are wrong about me. I do not eat children.

"In the Currie Cup my opponents use to target me. One day, (Sharks lock) AJ Venter was trying to make me lose my temper. At every scrum (referee) Craig Joubert was saying to me: 'Stay with me, Bakkies. Nothing will happen to you.'"

Botha has made helping Toulon qualify for the Heineken Cup his primary target and hopes to repay the faith put in him by club president Mourad Boudjellal.

"I want Toulon to qualify for the Heineken Cup next year. I want to be part of that success," he explained.

"Four years ago, I was on the verge of signing with Toulon. However, we couldn't break my contract with the Bulls and it ended in court where I lost.

"So I was delighted when Mourad Boudjellal came after me again two years later. That tells me that he is a man of his word. Last year, I had other contract offers in Europe but I chose Toulon out of respect for him."


  • Roy - 2012-01-06 10:50

    Who does this bloke think that anyone would believe him? He has always been "thug" on the field and is always punished for his bad playing. You are a thug and the way you play proves it.

      rmyburgh123 - 2012-01-06 11:07

      Roy, go back to the hole where you crawel out and just shut up please. Anyone who knows rugby and follows the game will know that it is the same situation with Bakkies; Schalck Burger and a few others. Fact is, these players give their all and yes they are physical, but then again, as per Bakies' comment, this just creates opportunities for them to be targetted, not just by officials, but also by other players trying their best to unsettle them through enticing them through dirty play. Bakkies is a huge loss to SA Rugby and I just hope and pray that the new couch will change the policies and select players on merrit, even if they are based outside of SA. So please, next time you want to open your mouth, make sure you know what the hell you are talking about, don't just comment for the sake of trying to saying something.

      Peter - 2012-01-06 11:54

      Roy, he is a reborn thug who has trouble talking

      Tc - 2012-01-06 12:50

      Blatantly head-butting a scrum-half who is lying on the ground - is that not thuggery? Alwys going for the small guys? I cannot imaging the French be fooled by silly staements.

      Dane - 2012-01-06 13:00

      Love him or hate him, his a player of the origanil game... (still dont like the bulls though)

      Phil - 2012-01-07 05:30

      100% correct Roy . Botha IS a thug ....but hard physical play is needed to win games. What we need to do is draw the line between what is truly "thuggery" and what is hard physical play Eye gouging is thuggery , head butting is thuggery .......these things are not needed on a rugby pitch. Botha's problem ...(and to certain extent Schalk Burger is guilty occasionaly) is that he goes over the top and commits DUMB acts in front of the camera.

  • Flowingriver - 2012-01-06 10:56

    Next he'll be saying that he's not a racist and expect us to believe him!

      Andre - 2012-01-06 11:03

      your mother is a racist. please stop crawling inside Juju D@@S's ass

      Leon - 2012-01-06 11:37

      You are obviously a racist making a comment like that! Come man, I thought we are past all this stuff..

      karsten.kaminski - 2012-01-06 12:57

      Why bring racism into it? You sir it seems has a skyfie on your shoulder

      Tom - 2012-01-06 17:20

      Get over yourself if you have a problem being classified as black don't take it out on someone else. I don't have a problem being white.... I am a South African and that is that Next time stay with the original theme of the article or write your own block where you can have your own followers(if any) Damn agent........

  • Lionel - 2012-01-06 10:59

    Hahahahahahaahahahahahahahaha Bakkies hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!Try stand up comedy old chap!!!!!!!!!!!!

      bclack1 - 2012-01-06 11:34

      Lionel, you chop. There is more than enough Autobiographies going around from the top SA players. All have respect for Bakkies. Idiots like you need to invest in a copy or two

      Lionel - 2012-01-06 11:46

      Feel better now that you have insulted me??????

      Paul - 2012-01-06 13:45

      Lionel you are an insult men ... so Bakkies plays hard and sometinmes a bit rough ... if softies like you had any say in Rugby we'd be watching touch rugby ... get a life .... SOFTY !!!

      Lionel - 2012-01-06 14:01

      Thanks Paul for your wonderful you think when Bakkies head butts Cowan he is playing hard or a bit rough?????

      bclack1 - 2012-01-06 14:59

      Aaaaaahhhh Lionel, this is exactly the point. Bakkies makes one mistake, he was man enough to admit it, now you make it out like he does it all the time.Reading your comment holds the saying true "Rather let people think you are an idiot, than opening your mouth and prove them right."

  • Foc - 2012-01-06 11:01

    Thats true Bakkies you are not a thug .... you a 'gomgat'!! I wonder if he

      Foc - 2012-01-06 11:02

      oops ... I wonder if he will still be displaying that feeble gesture by praying on the middle line on his knee .... why doesnt he do it in the change room?? The French will laugh at him ....

      Andre - 2012-01-06 11:30

      you just showed you are a complete doo$!!! I IF you really know him you would know he is a reborn christian.

  • Andre - 2012-01-06 11:03

    Bakkies it does not matter your are still a awesome player and guy. You play it hard unlike these other whimps. M@er hulle Bakkies

      Lionel - 2012-01-06 11:05

      Pity that he only targets guys smaller than him!!!!!!

      Andre - 2012-01-06 11:26

      @lionel he is pretty big so 95% of who he plays against will be smaller than him. Dumb a$$

      Marius - 2012-01-06 12:28

      @lionel. the British Lions prop from Wales, who he was suspended for clearing out legally , might be shorter, but probably weighs more than Bakkies. The only guy smaller than him was Aplon, who had no business hanging on the edge of a loose scrum on the Bulls side anyway and should be expected to be cleaned out by a bigger guy than him. Bakkies just happened to be the first guy there to do it

  • hlakulao - 2012-01-06 11:05

    Salute Bakkies, haters will always hate, Rugby has never been for Sissy's, and they will forever complain. What does racism has to do with Bakkies being labelled a thug! Mfxim

      fanus.hansen - 2012-01-06 11:12

      You are so right hlakulao, the ballet classes are in the school hall! - to quote our previous coach ;-)

      Andre - 2012-01-06 11:27

      thank hlakulao don't know why the people must bring racism into this.

  • Lionel - 2012-01-06 11:17

    Bakkies, I respected you until that cheap shot of a head butt on Jimmy Cowan(even though I dislike the AB that was not called for),You disgraced yourself,team and supporters!!!!

      Andre - 2012-01-06 11:28

      go cry to mommy now. wuss

      Lionel - 2012-01-06 11:37

      No need to get personal now that most think that Bakkies is a dickhead!!!!

      Paul - 2012-01-06 13:54

      @ Lionel ... speak for yourself ... I'm a Bok fan ... and I just loved that headbutt ... Cowan was CHEATING right in front of the REF ... who turns a blind eye ... atleast Bakkies had the balls to show that little cheat Cowan that he won't get away with that ... it could have being a try to the Boks if Cowan had not held Bakkies back ... and the game could have taken on a different outcome .

      Lionel - 2012-01-06 14:03

      Paul,then Bakkies got suspended for the rest of the tour and a couple of games afterwards............wonderful how you guys see things!!!!

  • Mike - 2012-01-06 11:23

    Of course if he played for Samoa and bashed us up we would be complaining?

  • Clinton - 2012-01-06 11:28

    Bakkies you Beeeeaast!!! Never listen to these people, its just jealousy. Your a rugby legend! One of the worlds greatest players ever!

      Andre - 2012-01-06 11:33

      Second that!!! Will rugby ever see another hard man like this? Legend

      Peter - 2012-01-06 11:50

      Bakkies is a thug, but I loved it last year when early in the game against AUSTRALIA he was really tackled by ROCKY ELSOM and he got lost for the rest of the game, couldnt take it from another very hard player, next time carry your pink handbag when playing against him

      stefan.vanderspuy - 2012-01-06 11:51

      He's a tough guy. No wonder Chuck Norris sleeps in Bakkies Botha pajamas.

      Deon - 2012-01-06 13:14

      He is a legend, but should never have gone to the RWC with his injury.

      Paul - 2012-01-06 14:11

      @Petter If rocky Elsom is such a great tough guy ,where are his WC and Super Rugby Medals , Bakkies is a legend ... get over your Provincialism .... WP aren't called NO CUPS WP for nothing ... maybe if they had a player of Bakkies caliber they would !!!

  • Francois - 2012-01-06 11:49

    Roy -- Go Play with yourself -- He is absolutely brilliant and I am a Stormer supporter

  • Greg - 2012-01-06 12:16


  • Pieter - 2012-01-06 14:13

    All you idots bashing Bakkies on here, s@ck on it julle outjies, it's because he bullied the poor idiotic WP into 10 years without a cup that you carry on like this. Bakkies played in the best provincial team on this planet

  • Paul - 2012-01-06 14:13

    Bakkies is THE MAN tough rough hard player ...we will miss you ...goodluck at Toulon !!!

  • Pierre - 2012-01-06 14:51

    Funny how some of the WP supporters (most of the haters on here) forget their captain's eye gouging tricks against the Lions, but call bakkies a thug???? Bunch of idiots you are!!! WP could not match this guy's toughness with anything they ever had... Their bravest and toughest player was in their backline (APLON)... Bunch of softies... oh and 11years cupless!!!

      Nando Brink - 2012-01-07 03:50

      bhaaaa haaaa hahahaaha good one !!

  • Bert - 2012-01-06 16:42

    of course your not!

  • Jerry - 2012-01-06 21:57

    Did anybody notice that it's mainly the dumb people and some other stupid brakkies fans who object to the ones who know what brakkies is really like....??? Only idiots don't want to believe he is a thug and try to make him out as a hard player but fair player....what a joke you bunch of fools!!!! He only picks on smaller people to rough up....he is too much of a sissy to pick on someone his own size....I hope they rough you up in France and make you come back to SA with your tail between your legs you pathetic thug...!!!!

  • Kristiaan - 2012-01-07 03:58

    Yes Bakkies we all agree. You are not a thug But your record shows that you act like a thug. Not using your arms when running into rugs when cleaning rugs , headbutting scrumhalves and picking on smaller players , is that the norm these days? Your reputation and ego is bigger than the game we all love. Enjoy France we wont miss you and players in RSA dont have to watch their backs for some time.

  • waynebknoesen - 2012-01-08 11:00

    Thank God Bakkies is in France.....let the France deal with him....maybe sent him to jail so that he can be someone bitch, maybe then he with learn to respect everyone and stop fighting with everyone.

  • harry.ebersohn - 2012-01-08 11:25

    Proper Rugby has no place for PISSY'S who's crying about bumping,pushing in the face, getting stepped on with boots and so on.Bakkies is a hard playing rugby Icon and poeple cant handle that. The rules of the game has made it difficult for proper hard playing players, like Bakkies and Schalck to perform properly in a match, they are not thugs just 100% Rugby playing Boerseuns !!!!

      Phil - 2012-01-08 11:41

      " The rules of the game has made it difficult for proper hard playing players, like Bakkies and Schalck to perform properly in a match" Do you mean the rules against eye-gouging and head-butting?

      Bruce - 2012-01-08 21:39

      100% rugby playing Boerseuns aka thugs

  • Bruce - 2012-01-08 20:53

    @Paul. So Bakkies has balls and headbutts smaller guys from behind and on the ground. I´d call them peanuts not balls.

      Paul - 2012-01-09 11:32

      @Bruce .... what has size got to do with it .... I've seen small guys drop big men with one shot ... as for peanuts should know !!!

  • henco.swart - 2012-01-09 00:38

    To all the Bakkies-fans... you are wasting your time defending him. These bunch of sissies are too weak even for Ballet. Maybe they should just stay on their couches... they might actually break a nail while fetching a beer... no, beer are to manly for them. Which game needs sissies? Jukskei? Maybe bowls... or soccer? oh, and Bakkies is about 2.00 tall, and weighs 120kgs. From what I have seen, there are very few guys bigger than Bakkies. Now Bakkies can't tackle a guy that is smaller than himself because he will be branded as a bully. How stupid are you sissies?

  • Brett - 2012-01-09 12:47

    thug or no thug.. the opposition would rather run around bakkies then into him.

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