Goosen out of Bok UK tour

2012-10-09 10:14

Cape Town - Springbok flyhalf Johan Goosen's season appears to be over following confirmation he will undergo knee surgery on Tuesday.

Goosen injured his knee during the Boks' 32-16 Rugby Championship loss to the All Blacks in Soweto last Saturday.

The 20-year-old Cheetahs star only recently returned from a shoulder injury and also entered the game against New Zealand with bruised heel.

Goosen hobbled from the field at the FNB Stadium and was replaced by Elton Jantjies in the first half.

Goosen has a Grade 3 medial tear and will be operated on at 12:00 according to the SA Rugby magazine Facebook page. He will thus also miss the rest of the Free State Cheetahs' Absa Currie Cup season.

The Boks take on Ireland in Dublin on November 10, followed by Tests against Scotland (November 17 in Edinburgh) and England (November 24 in London).


  • jaco.groenewald.731 - 2012-10-09 10:19

    Naka predicted this- Hope he wont be another Derick Hougaard

      cape.maori - 2012-10-09 10:45

      And you called for his inclusion!! You wanted him to play in Dunedin already. He is made of glass - like brussouw and juan smith!

      jaco.groenewald.731 - 2012-10-09 11:00

      Don’t start again Cape, you don’t even support the boks, why come and talk rugby here? Did the NZ rugby chat delete your fake profile?????

      press.enter.12 - 2012-10-09 11:03

      Yip and King Heyneke tried to phase him in slowly - remember the cape crusade that erupted ???? Still wonder who buckled first under the pressure - Heyneke or SARU ?

      cape.maori - 2012-10-09 11:03

      @Jaco - it is called the www. World Wide Web - not the bokkie web!! I'm here to keep you boys and girls honest! As long as you call me names and give me thumbs down, I know I'm speaking truth to power!

      dave.lester.125 - 2012-10-09 11:12

      Heineke, finally get your player positions right to build on. Play Lambie at 10. Leave him there, talk to Plumtree to leave him at 10. Lambie is not a natural fullback & he is far more innovative than Goosen, Jantjies etc. Of course he will have off games at 10 but he is a product in the making. Look at our FB greats, both Percy & Jouba were bigger than Lambie, and were natural fullbacks. If you ask me, play Taute at FB when FS is fit to play center again. Niknaks is useless, he should break up with Heynecke to end their love affair, in the interest of Bok rugby.

      jaco.groenewald.731 - 2012-10-09 11:13

      No Cape you are here to annoy everyone!!!!

      gary.doyle.520 - 2012-10-09 11:37

      Naka did predict this, it was a rushed

      jaco.groenewald.731 - 2012-10-09 11:46

      Yes cape everyone here loves you, thumbs up to you bru!!!!

      pierre.devilliers.9231 - 2012-10-09 11:59

      And or Gaffie du Toit all over again. Push the U21 champ to fast and then destroys his whole carreer. Morne Steyn should have been no.10 for at least antoher 2-4 years. SA rugby keep making the same mistakes.

      gary.doyle.520 - 2012-10-09 12:35

      If this cape maori character doesn't support the boks why does he give a crap about the make up of the bok team. Surely it's in this degenerates best interest that the worst candidates are chosen, why then disagree when he feels someone is better that is not chosen or dropped?? Is he on crystal meth or something??

      cape.maori - 2012-10-09 12:43

      @Gary - it is in my best interest that the ALL BLACKS beat the opposition with the best members in their teams! To be and remain the best, you need to beat the best! Go ALL BLACKS!!

      gary.doyle.520 - 2012-10-09 13:07

      So you hound Australian and Argentinian supporters(or whoever else) as well with your superior knowledge and insight into how their teams should look to be more competitive against your ALL BLACKS?? Why don't you get your own sports page, it will be easier for you to get a wider audience??

      gary.doyle.520 - 2012-10-09 13:14

      Sorry, my previous comment is to capemaori

      leigh.mapu - 2012-10-09 13:20

      Yay! My man Elton will finally get his chance. Always loved this guy (no homo). I think he'd add exciting new attacking options that will compliment the usually strong Springbok forward play. Or alternatively HM will reinstate Morne...

      jaco.groenewald.731 - 2012-10-09 13:51

      Sorry cape, I ded noot geet thaet whaat is that BIG woords you use meen???

      ckrohne1 - 2012-10-09 13:55

      @fake.maori: I am still waiting for the challenge accepted.....Howzit boetman......I am just trying to keep you honest....

      liesure.larry - 2012-10-09 14:10

      If I can remember right it was a certian SUPPORTER group that wanted Goosen in the Team. While other said wait he is not RIGHT and rather Stick with MS... Well there we have it... I hope all realise that a knee doesn't heal as quick and will never be 100% again... Let's hope this stupidity from a certain SUPPORTER GROUP doesn't hunt us in the Future....

      macziekpk - 2012-10-09 14:14

      Long live King Morne. Goosen has been rushed into the team by the Cape Cabal and now he is out with a serious injury. Knees never heal. Morne 140 games no break, what a man, what a player, what a champion. More Super trophies and Currie Cups than any other flyhalf playing at the moment. Well Kirchner keeps getting booed and is the next to be cast aside for soft poef Lambie. He will go the same way as Goosen, and Goosen is harder than him.

  • spyker.oflanagan - 2012-10-09 10:19

    That's too bad, but with 3 Currie cup games remaining for Morne to get back to form, we don't have to worry too much.

      spyker.oflanagan - 2012-10-09 11:28

      Dave, still bitter because Morne has kicked your team to pieces on numerous occasions, I see.

      press.enter.12 - 2012-10-09 11:35

      Some recent - representative neutral wisdoms on Stormers24: “Alfred e Neuman - Goosen is chewing at the bit and so is Lambie. If you really want to destroy them then put them on the bench for 70 minutes a game. . . . . . HM is the one with no experience as a bok coach. HM is projecting his own inadequacies.” TravieGrif – “I just don't get what HM is doing? Elton Jantjies is the third or fourth flyhalf in the squad! I am happy to see Taute there, but is he there to play fullback, centre or jack of all trades? Is Lambie even there to play rugby? Great to see Coenie back, but CJ? He is not the player that he used to be, and he is 34 for crying out loud! Geez. I just don't get what he is up to. If he is going to give MS a break, then there is Goosen, and Lambie is backup for him. Or is he going to give Zane a break and play Lambie and have Taute as backup for there? Anyone have an idea?” caravan.bulls – “Whahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahaha this transvestite isn't even best flyhalf in tshwane very average at best goosen with 1 leg and no arms is better”

      bootman.bokke - 2012-10-09 13:10

      Spyker you only have one currie cup game remaining and of course the promotion/relegation matches. Now ask yourself this...............has any bok ever been chosen from the first division?

      jaco.groenewald.731 - 2012-10-09 13:29

      Bootman, remember the stompies can also end up there!!!!! O sorry WP!

      1amAlan - 2012-10-09 13:41

      Didn't Russel Bennet come from the Border Bulldogs?

      macziekpk - 2012-10-09 14:17

      Nice press.enter! Goosen with one leg is better than Steyn? Hey caravan, Goosen with one leg is what we call in the industry, injured. Now you want to take his arms too? Steyn, no break for 140 games, never injured. What a man. Kirchner is no longer Ironman. Morne Ironman Steyn

  • grenville.felton - 2012-10-09 10:44

    Okay HM bring back Grant from Japan the most complete rugby minded no 10 in the country. HM has lost the plot who are Goosen and Taute why were they picked HM please answer this, And Kitchner and Hougaart must go waste of FT. and while we at it Resign you plonker go back to BB

      deon.fouche.3 - 2012-10-09 10:51

      And them make you the coach?

      jaco.groenewald.731 - 2012-10-09 10:53

      And please stop supporting the boks, go join capemaori in the struggle!!!!

      press.enter.12 - 2012-10-09 10:55

      And now I have seen it all - grenville fenton calls for popgun Grants inclusion - and then accuses King Heyneke of having lost the plot - and he doesn't even "know" who Goosen and Taute are - jirre - every member of the Cape Flatse choir even new that . . . . . . . . . .

      cape.maori - 2012-10-09 11:01

      @Press: "knew", not new!

      jaco.groenewald.731 - 2012-10-09 11:02

      Lol press

      spyker.oflanagan - 2012-10-09 11:02

      Grant? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      niel.walt - 2012-10-09 11:07

      Grenville is right, grant is the complete flyhalf! He can tackle, kick, run, pass and CHOKE!

      press.enter.12 - 2012-10-09 12:01

      @cape - this is a rugby blog - not a language course.

      spear.tackle.7 - 2012-10-09 13:13

      Bluebull fans are all the same, low-life garbage.. To think that the bluebulls were my 2nd team.. Well that was until I saw their hatred towards WP and racist comments..

      spyker.oflanagan - 2012-10-09 13:23

      Spear, 11 years no cups.

      corne.dunn - 2012-10-09 13:43

      If you want to see Peter Grant in action, please go and watch him in Japan, because we don't want him here.

      macziekpk - 2012-10-09 14:20

      Pop Gun Pete Twenty Metre Peter I would love to see the accusations of who cost us the game when he is included and we get thumped. I really enjoyed when he refused kicking at goal from 20.65m in the S15 semi and told Jo Pietersen to do something with the ball.

  • - 2012-10-09 10:49

    Get him ready for next season "this one is over and from a springbok point of view a failure", Its not the end of the world... I believe the kids has something special if he can stay injury free.

      cape.maori - 2012-10-09 11:00

      If he has something special, he better go do ballet!

      press.enter.12 - 2012-10-09 11:00

      Fortunately King Heynek, against the wishes of the Cape Cabal and News24 - took the abuse and picked 3 flyhalfs. Remember how he was being castigated by the cape cabal and WeeePee24 for giving Morne a break- but keeping him there - and also bringing Jantjies into the team - plus we also have hairdo Lambie, Frans Steyn and Pienaar there if things really hit the fan . . Remember the crusade ?

  • gary.doyle.520 - 2012-10-09 11:09

    To be perfectly honest, it was perhaps on the November tour that Goosen should've made his Bok debut and not in the rugby championship.

      cape.maori - 2012-10-09 11:14

      You guys were calling for Steyn's head! I said, at the time, that Goosen is overrated! I'm still of that view. His decision making sucks! I also said that the bokkie fans were so desperate to get rid of Steyn that they called for Goosen's inclusion. It is like politics - people did not vote for Zuma, they wanted Mbeki out!!

      press.enter.12 - 2012-10-09 11:41

      @cape - No - the "people" dont "vote" for the president - its the members of Parliament.

      cape.maori - 2012-10-09 11:52

      @Press - indirectly, the people vote! I don't like the system, but this is a rugby thread!

      gary.doyle.520 - 2012-10-09 12:00

      It is a rugby thread, you made comparison to politics cape.maori

      cape.maori - 2012-10-09 12:09

      @Gary - I know that. I did not want use this thread to explain my dislike of the system of electing the president. In any event, thanks for pointing it out!

      press.enter.12 - 2012-10-09 13:09

      @cape - on the dislike for the system there is some commonality . . . . unfortunately on the more important rugby matters and supporting your country - zilch !

      cape.maori - 2012-10-09 13:12

      Thank you Press - I can live with that difference!!

      macziekpk - 2012-10-09 14:23

      Steyn needed a break whether he would have been better or worse than Goosen, This break is going to bring him back to his best. But rushing that young Goosen into the team was a mistake. He was doing it well, 5 min, 20 min, then maybe a half, but in the end he had to start because of all the media and public pressure. Long live King Heyneke, Prince Steyn and Nobleman Kirchner. DOwn with the peasants in the Cape. GIve them cake!

  • mthunzi.phakathi - 2012-10-09 11:10

    Player management.

      cape.maori - 2012-10-09 11:20

      What about it?

  • anthonie.vanbosch - 2012-10-09 11:13

    Goosen is a big loss. Let's hope he will be good to run next season. I can see many tries from centre to wing next year. Give HM next year to proof that he can get the Springboks doing serious tackling. Tell him that tackling is the act of stopping an opposing player carrying the ball, especially by forcing the opponent to the ground. Lets hope he read this! Bokke bo !!!

      cape.maori - 2012-10-09 11:19

      He cannot tackle! Period. We saw it in Dunedin when Nonu ran over him. Ian Foster saw it and attacked his channel in Soweto. He could not handle the All Black traffic!

      bootman.bokke - 2012-10-09 13:14

      Cape did you see Whitelock run over Goosen and Strauss?

      cape.maori - 2012-10-09 13:23

      @Bootman - wow, Whitelock told them "die bus is vol!" But the best part was when Gear ran over Banana!!

  • banks.mokhachane - 2012-10-09 11:17

    and wonder kid goes to wonderland

      cape.maori - 2012-10-09 11:23

      He was hailed as the saviour of SA rugby! And so was Anneke Meyer!!

      press.enter.12 - 2012-10-09 11:42

      @cape - you are mixing two completely different discourses - clarity of thought goes a long way . . .

      spear.tackle.7 - 2012-10-09 13:06

      \Horses for courses\ ????

  • basiladams.basil - 2012-10-09 11:26

    Sorry to hear the goose is out surely now Elton is the 1st choice no10 but I'm convinced HM is anti player of color unless they not a bull or from the bulls,in 2games not 1Englishman has started in the 1st 15 and the form players are left on the bench makes one wonder!

      jako.merwe - 2012-10-09 11:35

      Thanks. Ive been saying thus all along. Hm has a probkem with englishmen. No doubt

      spyker.oflanagan - 2012-10-09 11:59

      Basil, what makes me wonder is what the highest grade is that you passed.

      press.enter.12 - 2012-10-09 13:17

      Basil adamsfamily - what a breath of fresh air you are - hope your post heralds a shift away from colour in rugby to - wait for it - language. So your postulate here today is "make all the english speakers bokke" ? This is realy going to challenge long held regional alliances and may even lead to teh total collapse of WeeePeee24 !

  • ameer.albertus.9 - 2012-10-09 11:58

    Time for Elton Jantjies to shine!

      macziekpk - 2012-10-09 14:27

      Old 50% Jantjies the general who led us to 20 unanswered points scored against us. He really got that backline moving hey, wow if scoring zero is the aim, he excelled

  • malcolm.lindsaypayne - 2012-10-09 12:06

    We could all see Goosen was battling with an injury! can anyone explain why it took HM so long to pull him off the field!!!!!!

      cape.maori - 2012-10-09 12:11

      He was hoping Goosen will recover to deny Elton the chance to play!

      ckrohne1 - 2012-10-09 14:04

      @cape.maori: you're still on that racist train of yours.............eishhhh

      phelelanimark.mnyango - 2012-10-09 14:17

      Well he has got a point thr thts wat we live wth in rgby like rly tell us y isn't janjtes not frst choice he is mre experncd and he has an nyc boot to back himslf and grt play on the field ....yall shld just strt lukin at brian habanna and his captn and his fllbck ....fckd up player thts all I can say 4 them in basson 4 habana and 4 zane bring in lambie jp at secnd centr and frst centr anyone bt jean....

      macziekpk - 2012-10-09 14:28

      If he was like Morne Steyn he would have just walked it off

      niel.walt - 2012-10-09 15:55

      Maczie, morne is married, let it go

      macziekpk - 2012-10-09 16:52

      I can't, he is my man.

  • nico.eksteen.7 - 2012-10-09 12:15

    Continue with Jantjies at flyhalf and Lambie as backup

      cape.maori - 2012-10-09 13:23

      And De Jongh get 4 minutes!!!

      press.enter.12 - 2012-10-09 13:59

      Then by Bootmans reasoning and maoris linking of time on the field to colour - then de Jong must be very close to a black hole in colour . . . . Wait - come to think of it Steven Hawkins has already proved a black hole has no colour . .

      macziekpk - 2012-10-09 14:29

      I am so glad I am not "of colour" - the chips on the shoulders here are HUGE

      stephen.axtell.7 - 2012-10-09 14:56

      @bootman.bokke , thats funny the way I see it the law is the typical hand out mentality of blacks and coloureds.

      theunis.botha.96 - 2012-10-09 15:01

      @ Cape.Why should you bother in anyway?It is supposed to benefit the All Blacks and team of your support if the better players in the Bok team sit it out on the bench for the whole or most of the game.Regardless,it was 4 min. too long.Whitehead of the Sharks should be included in the Bok team on centre and in the starting lineup,as he outclass both JdV and De Jongh,spesifically against stronger players like the AB's.It just prooves once more that you have serious issues.

  • ndabenhle.g.ngcobo - 2012-10-09 13:29

    Goosen is only 20 and his body has already started to break down before its even fully developed. Not good. Elton should be first choice. Take Morne as back up if he shows any semblance of form with the boot for the Bulls.

      press.enter.12 - 2012-10-09 14:05

      Eltons hair has already started to break down . . . . And Lambie's hair has split ends . . . . on the other hand Morne Steyn just had the longest uninterrupted run in modern rugby without an injury . . . . . wonder if that was why the cape cabal and Stormers24 wanted him out ?

      macziekpk - 2012-10-09 14:38

      Press enter maybe that is because he maintains his hair with a number 4 on the clippers. The fancier you get with the hair, the more overrated you are as a player. Look at Kirchner, doesn't give a f**k about his hair, just lets it dread. That's how he plays, doesn't give a f**k just does the job and puts his body on the line. Lambie, soft from the conditioner and Clear..................for men. Soft on the field. Elton, fancy 3 lines in his hair with that scourer sponge stuck on the back, real fancy dancy, and he is a Carlos Spencer cheap imitation, real fancy but nothing substantial there. Jean De Villiers has glued a stack of straw on his head and puts so much product in it to make it "pop" and he passes to ghosts. Vermeulen tries to maintain that mop on the back of his hair with aplomb, and all he does is run sideways and flop on the floor. With regard to hair this is the best, neatest 15 players who should represent SA: 1. Beast 2. Bismarck 3. Coenie 4. Juandre Kruger 5. Flip VD Merwe 6. F Louw - looks as though the kaif is gone. 7. Alberts 8. Spies 9. Pretorius 10. M Steyn 11. Bjorn Basson 12. F Steyn 13. JP Pietersen 14. JJ Engelbrecht 15. Kirchner Spies or Juandre or F Louw as captain And this way we avoid Western Province players, therefore avoid choking. And before anyone thinks Louw is from the Stormers, he is playing at Bath so shut it.

      press.enter.12 - 2012-10-09 15:46

      Mac - yes quite a challenge to pick a hair "neatness" team. Guthro though may deliver more hair neatness than the Beast . . . And Pretorius's hair to long and with a permanent backwards wave fixed by players running past him over the years . . . And JP's hair so neat one could even consider him on the wing where windspeed has more of an impact on hair neatness - that does leave a bad hairday problem at 13 though - but JdV is already going grey so that may be kinda neat for a while untill jaques come back sporting a new style japanese cut . . . . But Lambie definitely wont cut it - dandruff.

  • ndabenhle.g.ngcobo - 2012-10-09 13:35

    The reality is that we need a good kicking game up there. If the Boks were further ahead in their development and were commited to playing \total\ rugby, I wouldnt see the need for Morne as back-up.

  • robert.reeve.7564 - 2012-10-09 14:07

    A flash in the pan. The moment was too big and pain too dreadful. After next Saturday's BB game - HM if he's still the coach, may eat humble pie and give Morne another try after his decontamination from the Koen virus. Basic epidemiology dictates that: 'those who have the yips should not be allowed to contaminate those who haven't got the yips.' Get well Morne so we can take you down in our next WP game! Bye,bye Goosen...

  • springbok.bokke - 2012-10-09 14:24

    Goosen's injury does not change the fact that MS is blue bull supporters must accept it and move sounds to me more like sour grapes from the blue bul land

  • phelelanimark.mnyango - 2012-10-09 14:26

    Yha yha yha enuf abt the youngstr nw bring in janjies and let hm hav a go.

      macziekpk - 2012-10-09 14:58

      You spelled 7 out of 17 words correctly, most of which are between 1 and 3 letters long.

      cape.maori - 2012-10-09 15:10

      @Mac - can you blame him - he is still waiting for his textbooks!! lol

      macziekpk - 2012-10-09 15:37

      Not the best advert for Dale Boys' College

      phelelanimark.mnyango - 2012-10-09 17:07

      Yall can sck a ......whlie u at it..and I'm not forced to be spelling evrythn here the way it shoud be becouse at the end of the day I aint writting a test here and at the end of the day yall heard what I was saying you happy now that I spelt everything I full ???????

      phelelanimark.mnyango - 2012-10-09 17:08

      Yall can sck a ......whlie u at it..and I'm not forced to be spelling evrythn here the way it shoud be becouse at the end of the day I aint writting a test here and at the end of the day yall heard what I was saying you happy now that I spelt everything I full ???????

      macziekpk - 2012-10-09 18:13

      Is that how they teach you to "spell in full" at Dale Boys College?

  • abe.botha.5 - 2012-10-09 17:00

    To all those load mouth dimwits who kept on calling for the "wonderboy", I hope you are happy now. This kid is only 20 and his career might be done. You just dont do stuff like this. He should never have been picked for the boks. Not after such a long layoff due to injury. I predicted this and it happened. What a shame

  • ledzepkid.zn - 2012-10-09 19:47

    Let all the injured players have extended lay off periods, will serve us better in the long term. Morne Steyn has played a lot of rugby last 3 years, he needs a break, JP Pietersen should be fit but rather let Raymond Rhule and Lwazi Mvovo come in and give Habana and JP a rest. Give Jantjies a shot at starting with 10, rotate with Lambie, bring in Willie le Roux to rotate with Kirchner for fullback.

  • keithronald.wildschut - 2012-10-09 21:29

    tough luck son; please just rest enough and do not let any coach force you to play if your body says you are not ready.In the long run it will be better for you.

  • derek.francois.3 - 2012-10-09 23:39

    This is bad news and just the reason HM needs to recall Morne Steyn and between him and Zane kicking away all the hard fought possession ouch back to boring predictable rugby again.

  • elroy.erasmus.16 - 2012-10-10 00:36

    OK so he was our ace from the bench and made a difference at a young age against experience players with more tests caps we could only for see this coming out injured. I say great talent but give the guy some time

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