Plumtree 'devastated' at loss

2012-10-29 14:12

Durban - The Sharks' 2012 season did not end as planned, with no glory despite their best intentions and a great build-up to the campaign finale as Western Province broke an 11-year trophy drought in Durban on Saturday.

According to Sharks website editor Michael Marnewick, reflecting on the rugby year that has now ended in sorrow, Sharks coach John Plumtree admitted after the Absa Currie Cup final that, “To make two finals in two major competitions and not win is devastating.

The Sharks were beaten 37-6 by the Chiefs in this year's Super Rugby final, and lost 25-18 to Western Province in the Currie Cup showpiece.

“The people came out to support us but we let them down. We are really disappointed, we had a good enough side and a good enough plan in place, but we just couldn’t execute it,” Plumtree said.

Despite building up a healthy lead (in the context of a final), the Sharks couldn’t capitalise on their advantage as WP managed to chip away and then overhaul the home side to emerge 2012 champions. The biggest area of concern, said Plumtree, was the lineout.

“The major problem was our lineout, it didn’t function and we just gave them too much possession and they capitalised on that territory advantage in the second half. Whenever we built pressure on them, they conceded penalties and the scoreboard was ticking over. Although we conceded a soft try before half-time, there was never any panic, we just needed to get our lineout functioning and it didn’t.

“You have to give them some credit, we knew what we needed to do at the lineouts, but unfortunately we didn’t have the accuracy for that set-piece to function properly.”

The Sharks thrive on quick ball to get their backs away and into space to score tries, but on this occasion, they battled.

“Once or twice we were a bit slow getting to the breakdown, but we seemed to get slow ball even when we won it,” the coach admitted. “So we’ll have to look at the video; it seemed like their tackle release was really slow, so even when the ball was coming back it was really slow and that was slightly frustrating for us.”

And with that, so the halfbacks - Pat Lambie and Cobus Reinach - had to operate with really slow ball. “I guess that was their plan - to slow us down - and the breakdown is one way to do it.”

After three finals in the last 12 months or so, The Sharks have the ability to get there, but finishing off is a concern said Plumtree. “I’ve been coaching for a long time and when you get as old as me, you want to win. We’ve got a good set-up here and we’re reaching the top, but something is missing and we’ll have to work out what that is. There’s some good consistency because we’ve made three consecutive finals, but we haven’t won them, so that’s really disappointing and hard to take.”

The Sharks will now gather for medicals and final reviews before heading off for a much-needed break after a rugby campaign that barely stopped for air over the course of the last nine months.

They will reconvene in a few weeks’ time for pre-season training ahead of the 2013 Super Rugby competition while seven of their players head to Europe with the Springboks: Willem Alberts, Marcell Coetzee, Jannie du Plessis, Pat Lambie, Tendai Mtawarira, Lwazi Mvovo and JP Pietersen.


  • BlouMasjien1 - 2012-10-29 14:20

    You should have replaced Craig, the burden on the sharks's shoulders, at halftime.

      TravieGrif - 2012-10-29 19:10

      He didn't have a good game at all. Definitely lacking game time, and our lineout was a proper flop. Well done to Etzebeth - made himself a royal pain in that area.

      hans.himmler.7 - 2012-10-30 10:42

      Agreed, Burden 100% on any other day. Did the Bok cap inflate his head? Huge Burden fan, but he was major contributor to the poor show.

  • jasper.benadie - 2012-10-29 14:22

    Sorry ou Johan Pruimboom!

  • ReneMuller.XOXO - 2012-10-29 14:23

    Do the non-Bulls supporters NOW realize and comprehend why our Bulls supporters are so in total awe about our fantastic team's achievements??? Not easy to do but DO-ABLE!!! Pretty awesome by my Bulls team! Sharks, your time will come - I feel it :)

      breyneke.dreyer - 2012-10-29 14:28

      Lost you there for a while! Then I realised you were referring to when they won competions a few years ago!! yes, they were pretty awesome then. Had excellent players and a coach!! The players are still there but I believe you could do with new coaching staff!

      jasper.benadie - 2012-10-29 14:29

      Bulls for LIFE René!

      ReneMuller.XOXO - 2012-10-29 14:38

      Bulls = OSSIMNESS! Bulls = CHAMPIONS I would really like another team in SA to achieve what the Bulls have achieved over recent years, maybe then will they understand where we are coming from - LONELY at the TOP.

      paul.sdoow - 2012-10-29 14:53

      recent as in last three years they have achieved nothing and side stepped a relegation match . . . lets all see what happens next year . .

      eugene.brink.9 - 2012-10-29 14:54

      @ rene: They will never realise because they've now won their first one in 11 years and that makes them champions for life.

      Darrylbamberger - 2012-10-29 14:55

      So I take it your recent is 4+ years ago ? because you(bulls) havnt done anything in the last 3 years

      P.J. - 2012-10-29 14:56

      Ek sien tot die EP Kings het nou meer bekers in hul kas as die Bulle!

      johan.fourie.566 - 2012-10-29 15:00

      Yip Rene that is why they went down to the bottom to look for company

      ReneMuller.XOXO - 2012-10-29 15:00

      @breyneke, you guys do seem to get lost easily. No probs, I'll be more 'd e t a i l e d' next time. We haven't won any 'competions' but quite a bit of competitions in recent years. Bulls ARE still the BEST!!

      ReneMuller.XOXO - 2012-10-29 15:23

      @PJ, jy het brille nodig en die res van julle 'suck' in MATH 101. I quite fancy the way you guys keep on lying to yourselves AND bullsh ! t one another.

      lablue.phoenix - 2012-10-29 15:38

      Rene, jy is nie lekker nie. Lonely at the top? Wanneer laas was die Bulls NABY die top?

      lablue.phoenix - 2012-10-29 15:38

      Lonely at the top of your stripper pole maybe.

      ReneMuller.XOXO - 2012-10-29 15:43

      The Bulls have managed enough wins during the last 10 years (it is called reserves) to last a while. During our building phase we will be 'there or there about' UNTIL the MONSTER awakes again... Still 1 cup vs 7.5 cups ai toggie!!

      ReneMuller.XOXO - 2012-10-29 16:10

      @Stirrer, beware of the MONSTER when it awakes again. 7.5 vs 1 - :):):) (6.5 is the missing number....) Have been, has been, some teams will just NEVER BE!

      stirrer.stirrer - 2012-10-29 16:37

      René, 'n urine-monster is gevaarliker as die huidige Bulle.

      ReneMuller.XOXO - 2012-10-29 16:49

      @Stirrer, LoL - dis nou nie mooi nie! Ek het gese wanneer die MONSTER weer wakker word. Geduld, geduld!!

      ReneMuller.XOXO - 2012-10-29 17:52

      Don't get so angry little @Sean - all you have left is a stupid little insult that might harm someone who cares! Quite happy in my skin (and hair) thank you very much and I don't suffer from Personality Disorders who feel the need to dish out insults to make me feel better!! Get help, and do it quickly - sad boy. No need to reply - moving on.

      tertius.devereaux.1 - 2012-10-29 18:03

      ReneMuller en Bloumasjien BO!! Goeie grappie Masjien! Dus elke Springbok se droom om vir di BULLE te speel!

      tertius.devereaux.1 - 2012-10-29 18:13

      Andre hoeveel cups het di wp in 12jaar gewen?????????

      pagel.trivia - 2012-10-29 18:59

      @Rene: WP = 33 times CC champs. Bulls = 23 times CC times. Nothing dad, I just smiled.

      eugene.brink.9 - 2012-10-30 07:56

      I see the WeePee supporters can't count. Now they claim we haven't won anything in 4+ years while in the same breath saying we last won something in 2009. We won the bloody S15 in 2010!! And in 2009 and in 2007!! That's two years. Two, you schmucks!! Haha Bulle!

  • danie.kroezen.14 - 2012-10-29 14:23

    And before I forget , that "soft" try happened because your captain cant tackle!

      stirrer.stirrer - 2012-10-29 14:56

      That try was anything but "soft". Brilliantly executed, left the Sharks looking shell shocked. That's just a suurgat comment by Plum. Speaking of suurgat comments, I've not seen any comment by Johann Ackerman yet, after he said there's no hope in hell WP could win, because "they won't be that lucky two games in a row". I just hope he took off his shoe before he put his foot in his mouth :-)

  • breyneke.dreyer - 2012-10-29 14:29

    Bad luck Plum! Beaten by a better side on the day. Next thing the trolls will start calling the Sharks "Chokers" for losing 3 finals in a row! It was just not your day!

  • BoyvandieSuburbs - 2012-10-29 14:34

    Nice going WP supporters. Kick a man when he is down. WP had a massively dominant line-out, and the Sharks made pre-mature replacements, costing them their dominance in the scrums. How Etzebeth wasn't man-of-the-match I cannot fathom. - 2012-10-29 14:46

      Boy and who's fault is it that you lost line outs and who made the replacements? Agree Etzabeth motm. Best player this year in all rugby.

      paul.sdoow - 2012-10-29 14:58

      think taking Janni off was a wise option as another five minutes and he was sure to concede penalty or possible yellow card . . any one could see he was getting irritated . as for man of the match all the players deserved it . . both teams . . if you look at the end count for tackles made and missed the running metres gained by both side it shows the story of how much running attack and defence was played. any one of those players can be proud they all played tun their best but one side had to win just glad it was my team !

      BoyvandieSuburbs - 2012-10-29 17:53 Plumtree (duh). No reason to kick him when he's down. @paul.sdoow Did you notice the direction the scrums went after Jannie was subbed?

  • richard.kohne.18 - 2012-10-29 14:52

    Lineout options were ridiculous....coaches should have had a back up plan in place

      markus.esterhuyse - 2012-10-29 16:17

      It was CB who could not get it right d@@s! Not the coach! Do you hear the locks call out or the coach in the line outs? More than six balls did not go straight! That is the coaches fault? Rather comment on tampon slinging mr Kohne!

  • richard.kohne.18 - 2012-10-29 14:53

    Jacques Botes would have made a difference....been brilliant all season...much better option than Deysel....same thing happened in 2010 when Botes had been exceptional and was dropped from the match 22 for the final....

  • conway.reynolds - 2012-10-29 15:28

    Change the coach. Plumtree is not a coaches backside. Get someone with balls that can do his job and not make excuses. Plumtree you talk the talk but that where it ends, you dont know how to walk the walk

      markus.esterhuyse - 2012-10-29 16:02

      Big balls like yours Conway! I'm a Sharks fan and let it be known that plum is one of the best coaches around! He did his job but some of the players did not pitch for the game! Knock on's, miss tackles, line out that goes astray is not the coaches fault, his game plan is one of the best!so sister you don't know much about rugby do you bitch! Do your talking while you walking!

      frans.visserdsb - 2012-10-30 06:38

      Conway - Plum is an awesome coach of a great side - you don't make 2 finals in 2 major competitions otherwise. The sharks had a diabolical travel schedule before the S15 final, and were beaten by a hungrier team on Saturday. The two best sides in SA was on dispaly on Saturday - WP (my team) with the Vodacom cup, S15 conference cup, curry cup and u/19 trophy must edge the sharks, who has reached 2 finals. WP and Stormers will be difficult to beat next year with the youngsters only getting better..

      jacques.duplessis.3785 - 2012-10-30 07:56

      Conway let no-one fool you!plumtree and mark lawrence make a very cute couple!!they go hand in hand without lawrence plumtree's career would have been short lived

      john.a.swart - 2012-10-30 08:59

      I disagree Conway - John Plumtree is a damn good coach and his comments on the game should be viewed as his viewpoint only and not as excuses for losing as it not in his nature to do that. The fact of the matter is that WP were superior in the lineouts, legally slowed down ball at the breakdown and frustrated the hell out of the Sharks with their defence. Add to that the fact that WP were definitely more "psyched up" particularly after the individual brilliance of JDJ's try and they ended up deserved winners on the day. Irrespective, it was a great final and a memorable game overall. From a Sharks supporter.

  • nathan.buchner - 2012-10-29 15:38

    Sharks forever!you don't hear the sharks supporters blaming the ref or injuries!it takes n brilliant team to reach 3 sucsesive finals!plumtree is probably the best coach in south africa at this moment and the sharks won't sack him because he lost a FINAL!

      stirrer.stirrer - 2012-10-29 16:00

      Yes, keep telling yourself that, if it makes you feel better.

      nathan.buchner - 2012-10-29 16:05

      I don't need to tel myself anything!the thing is the w.p won a demestic cup for the first time in 12 years now you guys got the biggest mouths!just shows you that you people are \niks gewoont\!!!!!!!

      paul.sdoow - 2012-10-29 16:17

      how can you blame the ref when he was on your side?

      steven.johannes.52 - 2012-10-29 22:01

      And?! 2008-1996=12......that's 12 years it took sharks to win another trophy! You shouting your mouth off about 3 losing finals yet victorious province supporters shouldn't mention a word?! That's proper crazy on your behalf

  • nathan.buchner - 2012-10-29 15:41

    And etsiebeth probably used steriods at school level!just a shame that his not that tough agianst the all blacks when he plays for south africa!

      stirrer.stirrer - 2012-10-29 16:01

      You obviously don't know the famous Etsebeths from Cape Town. They are born that way. I think it's something in the water.

      paul.sdoow - 2012-10-29 16:26

      wha ha ha ha good one ! a prime example of roid user is Pierre not so sharp spies . .

  • christopher.shining - 2012-10-29 15:48

    I am just very dissapointed!

      jasper.benadie - 2012-10-29 16:16

      You should be, can you sue the one who made you a Shark????

  • jonathan.jooste - 2012-10-29 16:03

    im glad WP.finaly won the cup.but it realy pissis me of when people write or comment stupid

      jasper.benadie - 2012-10-29 16:16

      Are is you talking to I???

      francel.vaneeden - 2012-10-29 16:19

      stem saam tragies dat die meeste negatiewe kommentaar nie eers van ondersteuners van enige van die 2 spanne af kom nie. Laatmens maar net wonder ne

  • markus.esterhuyse - 2012-10-29 16:12

    Plum you are one of the best coaches around! Sharks and stormers played running Rugby! Its not the coaches fault when the players knock the ball, or the ball does not go straight in the line out or Keegan tackles high and gets bumped by JdJ! Or the scrum went backwards second half! These are pro players not primary school boys! In the S15 and CC plum took the sharks from the bottom to the top! Stormers defense was brilliant and they scored from shark mistakes! Weldone WP! Unlike HM with kick and runs!brood!

  • francel.vaneeden - 2012-10-29 16:27

    Why is it that we as supporters always show our emotions with disrespect and belittling comments. Maybe we should start looking at ourselves first before criticizing others. Well played Sharks but on the day it was just not good enough. Next year is a fresh start. WP well played and congrats. Remember next year is also a fresh start.

      gungets.tuft - 2012-10-29 16:50

      Now that is probably the only comment worth reading. I will stop reading now to avoid disappointment.

  • elspeth.hassall - 2012-10-29 16:38

    Never mind, Plummers, I still support you!

  • Blixum - 2012-10-29 17:36

    The new chokers on the block: The Shardines.

  • jed.vonallemann - 2012-10-29 18:12

    Why are the Bull's supporter's still commenting LOL, 3 years zip, they talk about re-building , Province had 7 under 21's in there side that took the Currie Cup. The Bull's are nothing but a middle of the Log side nothing better. 20 - 3 against the Shark's LOL yep they really on the up and up.

      willie.duplessis.56 - 2012-10-29 21:45

      They take a little longer to grasp the concept that rugby has moved on from kick and chase! Bless their little blue (pienk?) hearts! Shame be apon you for teasing them.... Shame, Have a heart my mate! Hehehe

  • leon.young.9003 - 2012-10-29 18:16

    Our lineout is a concern for many years now the whole top structure of natal rugby is useless how the hell could we lose against wp and last year against the lions surely brian van zyi and his gang must be fired

  • keba.mothoagae - 2012-10-29 19:03

    The same thing happened to the Stormers and WP in 2010. That is finals rugby for you. Meeting an inspired outfit with nothing to lose and your season is left in tatters. It happens. Sorry.

  • roiboss - 2012-10-29 21:27

    We lost the game coz of the line outs

  • evert.vanstaaden - 2012-10-30 08:16

    I feel for the Sharks team, not their fans, the team. The Superugby final really was a bridge too far, all that travelling was bound to take it's toll. As far as the Currie Cup, they were the form team during the tournament, no if's and's or but's there, and it must be heartbreaking to finish top of the log, only to go down in the final, but province were just the better team on the day, that's just the way the cookie crumbles, I'm sure they'll be back stronger than ever next year, so province can beat them again ;)

  • steven.korb.79 - 2012-10-30 09:28

    now who is the chockers??? sharks chocked in both finals this year,GO WP!!!!!!!!

  • hans.himmler.7 - 2012-10-30 10:43

    One word sums it up Plum.......DISAPPOINTING.

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