Lions set to punish Vermaak

2011-08-02 22:06

Cape Town - The Golden Lions had no idea of scrumhalf Jano Vermaak's plans to move across the Jukskei River to join their rivals, the Blue Bulls.

The Blue Bulls on Tuesday announced that Vermaak will be joining them after this year's Currie Cup on a two-year contract.

According to the Beeld newspaper, the Lions have subsequently decided not to include Vermaak in their 22-man squad to take on the Blue Bulls at Loftus Versfeld in Pretoria on Saturday.

Lions coach John Mitchell will announce his squad for the game on Wednesday.

Vermaak apparently gave the Lions the assurance that he would not negotiate with any other unions before the end of the Currie Cup season.

Vermaak's dishonesty has thus prompted the Lions not to include the scrumhalf, rather opting to build for the future.

Michael Bondesio will play at No 9 in Vermaak's place, while the young Rudy Page is expected to be included as the reserve scrumhalf.


  • Bulldozer - 2011-08-02 22:22

    Cut your nose to spite your face.

      Paddy - 2011-08-03 04:14


      Hein - 2011-08-03 07:36

      @Paddy. Maybe you should change your name to PADDA and go back into your deep, dark slime pool. We entered the professional era in rugby more than a decade ago - wake up PADDA!!!!

      Henryford - 2011-08-03 07:49

      Cut your loses and start again.

      Jock Strap - 2011-08-03 07:49

      bad move from a smart player...Bulls rugby is in decline

      docraven - 2011-08-03 08:04

      From one losing team to another.What the hell is he thinking.He needs to come to the Cape and make a successful career.

      BLOODY AGENT - 2011-08-03 08:23

      doc ,Bulls are a losing team with 3 Super Trophies and 6 curriecup trophies the last 10 years,and your winning team has no cups the last 10 years,now that i call Mummford logic

      Gazza69 - 2011-08-03 08:34

      Show me the money!!!!!

      The Observer - 2011-08-03 09:27

      Gazza.Who cares. Beter than the 6 million a year for habana and fourie and still no cups x 2years now, throw in another 2.5mil for cj and i call it money well spent.

      Jenny - 2011-08-03 10:14

      @Doc Jano is not ready for retirement just yet, you can expect him in the cape after his 2 year contract with the bulls

      JohnnyBB - 2011-08-03 10:22

      ...luckily he is not going to play for the 10 year Losers..... ......Bulls = Super Champs x3.... .......Suckers = super Losers x10...!!

      docraven - 2011-08-03 10:59

      Jenny, seems like these so called retired players are cleaning up !So send them down!

      roboman1 - 2011-08-03 12:38

      The Lions will be better off without Vermaak, he is the most inept srumhalf when it comes to knock ons behind a scrum, particularly loose scrums, so no they not cutting off their face, I was amazed at how much game time he got under Mitchel

  • Voorvel - 2011-08-02 22:26

    Ons sal almal wat waarde het inkatrol. Tot die voordeel van die RSA. Jano het GEEN toekoms in Josi nie. 'n Klomp patatsterte wat niks van raga weet.. Welkom to the REAL world of rugby!! Bulls rule.

      CliffB - 2011-08-03 06:12

      Voorvel: Jou naam pas jou brein !!!

      Hennie - 2011-08-03 10:09

      ja dis hoekom julle onder op die log rond hang,want daai is REAL sou ek se,kanie jul eie spelers kweek nie

      JohnnyBB - 2011-08-03 10:24

      ...even the Cape youngsters go play for the Bulls...!!! .......because WP = useless...!!

      Manus - 2011-08-03 12:29

      Terwyl almal so ernstig daaroor is om mekaar en mekaar se opinies te beledig: wat van iets op 'n ligter noot? Voorvel se naam laat my nou dink aan wat hulle met al die voorvelle don wat met besnydenisse verwyder word. Weet iemand dalk? Ek reken daar word beursies van gemaak. Dubbeldoel-beursies: vryf dit bietjie, en jy't 'n rugsak ...

      roboman1 - 2011-08-03 12:44

      Your current team is not doing so well, not in the Super rugby or in Currie Cup, and if you buy a few more like Jano you will do even worse, so Ce La Vie my friend, you can have Jano, watch the Lions do better this year without him. Just a pity he lied to his team and team mates about his timing

      TruthTeller - 2011-08-03 14:20

      @Roboman1, You are really not very smart, because if you know anything about any competition you would know you don’t win a competition in the first few matches. But at the end in the final so yes, you go ahead and talk big just remember the BULLS supporters are smarter than you. They know you win in the final not the beginning and also watch how the BULLS make Jano one of the best.

      Juan Smit - 2011-08-03 16:14

      Hey voorvel.... lyk my jy kyk nie rugby nie pel..... da is so klein mannetjie met n 10 op sy rug wat bokke toe is en as ou Jano so goed was sou hy ok seker erens gekom het.... lol... ma as jy ou jano se games gaan kyk die afgelope tyd..... eish my maat hys nie die swakste nie maar ok nie die beste nie.... ek dink hy kan nog beter word maar regtig... skoonmaak agter die losgemaal kan hy glad nie doen nie.... hy dink altyd hys n losvoorspeler en gaan bind op n loskrum met geen teenstaander naby hom nie!!!! So jano enjoy die bulle.... dis nie suur drywe nie maar regtig n man se woord bly nog jou woord ou maat.... geld is baas maar daar is nogsteeds n taktvolle manier om dinge te doen..... ek is seker dis nie sy eerste offer terwyl jy by die leeus was nie en hulle het jou da gehou vir lank..... so ja gaan goed en gaan vir goud ou maat maar kry ma net bietjie takt terug in jou lewe!!!!!!

  • mike - 2011-08-02 22:32

    Strange, his been a Lion for so long leaves one wondering whats up!

      mike - 2011-08-02 22:37

      On second thought if the Lions don't want him for the CC could we maybe get him earlier?

      Gazza69 - 2011-08-03 08:35

      Who wants to play for the Lions?? Run Jano Run.....

      JohnnyBB - 2011-08-03 10:24

      ...he wants to play for the Champions...!!

      TruthTeller - 2011-08-03 14:26

      @roboman1, Haha you stereotype shows your low IQ everyone knows you can’t stereotype by a minority’s actions but guess you never had common sense just like malema.

  • Bulldozer - 2011-08-02 22:59

    Imagine WP was so childish as to leave JJ Engelbrecht and Johan Sadie out of the team against the Blue Bulls. The result would have been much closer, since they were probably the 2 best players for WP on the day.

      Logoll - 2011-08-02 23:13

      Love them or hate them, WP has never stood in the way of a players career. A lot of people have given WP grief over not signing these two players but the truth is they did make an offer which was bettered by the Bulls. WP also has to pay salaries for the top players such as Schalk Burger, JdV, Jacque Fourie, Juan De Jong, Gio Aplon, Andries Bekker. And on top of that they had to retain a large number of younger stars such as Danie Poolman, Tim Whitehead, Siya Kolisi (who btw is really impressing me), Elstad, Nick Koster and of course all 10 flyhalfs we will use in a season. They don't have a limitless budget. While a number of big name and big salary players will not be playing for the bulls next year such as Bakkie, Fourie Du Preez and Mattfield will probably leave or retire (that is why they are buying Vermaak) and those three salaries alone can probably cover 6 o 7 young players.

      Mike@CapeT - 2011-08-02 23:43

      They were cogs in a well oiled wheel. That is why the Bulls got such a klap.

      Bulldozer - 2011-08-03 00:04

      Wow Mike, I just complemented 2 WP players and this is the way you react. And you guys talk about Bulls supporters being arrogant.

      Mike@CapeT - 2011-08-03 00:15

      No, you were insinuating that the Bulls poached the only worthwhile players in the WP team. All I said was that they were part and parcel of a team beginning to function well.

      Bulldozer - 2011-08-03 00:20

      No, I never insinuated anything - ''since they were PROBABLY the 2 best players for WP ON THE DAY''. Read properly.

      Mike@CapeT - 2011-08-03 00:27

      Same thing.....I can name half a dozen other WP players who played just as well....ON THE DAY.

      Kleinboet - 2011-08-03 01:46

      They were good, being WP born and bred, but they have had better games and were definitely not the best on the day. I think we should wean ourselves of them as soon as possible and start developing loyal players instead. Next year we're going to need seasoned players in those positions. We should not be developing players for another franchise if it can be avoided at all, since it will be doubly detrimental to our own cause in the long run - they get well-trained players and we did not take time to develop our own stock.

      Niekie - 2011-08-03 07:06

      Mike, you really are a moron! Nothing was insinuated! Now go and buy yourself some front teeth!

      Hein - 2011-08-03 07:42

      @Mike@CapeT : You should learn not to read between the lines and take what YOU read between the lines as gospel, for the simple reason that there is NOTHING WRITTEN BETWEEN THE LINES.

      docraven - 2011-08-03 08:24

      Bulldozer, we dont need any comments, complements from a Ding Bat like you.You no nothing about rugby or anything about any of our players or even your Bulls for that matter.You are like what they call a "IT" Girl in the UK, Cluless but wants to try fit in

      BLOODY AGENT - 2011-08-03 08:36

      doc you just managed to overtake Mike as the biggest idiot on thios thread with this stupid comment

      Kaapie - 2011-08-03 09:48

      Agree with Kleinboet.. why should one play someone who is going to leave anyway.. Play him from the bench. He doesnt form part of the provinces long term plans and therefore play someone who will. That is probably what Mitchell is going to do.. I would. I cant understand AC thing re Sadie and Engelbrecht in this regard. I also wonder what message they are giving Jinka since clearly he will drop down the pecking order. The same happened to Heinie Adams.

  • Pears - 2011-08-02 23:02

    Some sour Lions supporters are forgetting how they bought Delport, Francis, Maku and Boshoff from the Bulls the last two seasons. Also tried their best to get Bakkies.

      Kleinboet - 2011-08-03 01:50

      So be it, it is the professional era. Being the professional era, the Lions are doing the right thing developing other players in his place as soon as possible. Wish WP could and would do the same with Sadie and Engelbrecht.

      Stephan Steyn - 2011-08-03 08:11

      Oja those players got lot of gametime at the Bulls right???...We help the Bulls by buying those players...lowering the monthly wages etc. so Shut up and be greatful!

      Spinnie - 2011-08-03 08:21

      Bulls didn't use those players......

      Kaapie - 2011-08-03 09:49

      Delport was crap. Francis wasnt being used @ the Bulls and Maku was 3rd after Botha and Chilli and neither was Boshoff 1st choice..

  • Ken J May - 2011-08-03 00:24

    Hey he will be punished enough next year, he will have to wear that blue jersey for the whole two years, I mean who wants to be seen in a blue bulls jersey? It's like coming out of the closet!

      GraemeBB - 2011-08-03 01:47

      It could be far worse - ask me and Bulldozer. We still havent recovered.

      Bulldozer - 2011-08-03 05:26

      The wounds are healing Graemme. Slowly but surely.

      CliffB - 2011-08-03 06:14

      Bulldozer & GraemeBB : You want good medicine , klap the lions on saturday , you will feel much better !!

      docraven - 2011-08-03 08:27

      GraemeBB/Bulldozer, my two little "IT" Girls. Your team better stop worrying about how they look on the field and realize they playing rugby and not netball

      BLOODY AGENT - 2011-08-03 08:39

      doc again i mus congratulate you on another piece of worthless comment,well done keep it up,i am sure Bulldozer and GraemeBB has been in tears after reading it,tears of laughter realising that you are the chosen one -King of Stupidity

      docraven - 2011-08-03 09:20

      Alwyn...yet you keep reading them.Here is a FACT for you, look at the current Currie Cup Log and let me know where you stand.Thanks my best Friend.

      BLOODY AGENT - 2011-08-03 09:33

      doc we had the same conversation in the Super Rugby more or less at the 3rd game and i said"A cup is won in a final second or third means nothing,pace yourself that you see the final and dont choke over the last hurdle.Now again it ended up in heartbreak for you,dont get ahead of yourself the final is a long way ahead and any teanm can end up anywhere on the log .Now stop your anti Bulls Comments grow up and make something of your life

      docraven - 2011-08-03 10:05

      Alwyn, sorry i asked you where you are currently on the Log and i expect an answer.Cant wait for the day i give you a P..S clap

      BLOODY AGENT - 2011-08-03 11:34

      Very Mature doc,threatening over the net knowing that your block cant be knocked off,very mature for a five year old indeed

  • Kalla - 2011-08-03 00:27

    Voorvel jou ongepoetsde voorbarige blou buffel drol!Dis ouens soos jy wat maak dat mense die blou koeie haat.

      Damian@bulls - 2011-08-03 06:28

      @Kalla Die bulle is nie die enigste span wat deesdea gehaat word nie kalla, en nie almal van ons is dieselfde nie, rugby groete

      Friksepappa - 2011-08-03 07:44

      Kalla Ons gee nie werklik om hoe jy voel nie...

      BLOODY AGENT - 2011-08-03 09:34

      Kalla is jy seker jy is nie Evita Bezuidenhout nie?

      JohnnyBB - 2011-08-03 10:32

      ...die meeste haat egter die 10 jaar Suckers...!!! ......geen bekers sedert 2001.... ........he he he he he...!!!

      Xavier Smit - 2013-06-18 13:27

      Hy doen nu baie beter by di bulle as wat hy ooit by die leeus gedoen het. Hy is nu n springbok!! Die bulle was, is e sal altyd die beste span in die land wees!! Duidelik weet j nie veel van rugby af nie vriend

  • TheWizard - 2011-08-03 07:17

    Congrats Heyneke, what a bargain buy. Welcome to the BlueBull world Jano!!!

      JohnnyBB - 2011-08-03 10:33

      .....the Bulls buy talent... ......the Stromers/WP buy has-beens......

  • vanrooyenmara - 2011-08-03 07:38

    Shame....hoe kleinlik!..............Welkom by die Bulle !!!!!!!!

  • TrevorGP - 2011-08-03 07:42

    Play Jano; he has been a great servant to Lions Rugby. We have been proud to have him represent our Pride. Every player needs a change now and again and I have no doubt that Jano will give 110% for the remainder of the Currie Cup season for the Lions. He doesn't deserve to be dropped over this!! Thank you Jano for your hard work and dedication for the our Team and I can't wait to see you finish at the Lions on a high. Go out and win this thing!!

  • Hannetjie - 2011-08-03 07:44

    Jammer as Jano die Lions gaan verlaat maar dalk word sy talent nou in Blou Bul land raakgesien en kry hy die kans wat hy lankal verdien om in 'n Springbokspan te wees!!!! Staerkte Jano !!!!!!!!

  • Raeez - 2011-08-03 07:49

    Looks like Jano loves playing for teams bottom of the log...When the Lions were struggling for the past few years down there he was happy. Now that they top and Bulls are down there he Idiot! Go LIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      MTRJ - 2011-08-03 08:21

      Yeah I find that funny as well! And doing this after he gave the GLRU his word he will not negotiate with other unions until after the CC makes me wonder of loyalty still exists in the rugby world today??

  • Markw1 - 2011-08-03 07:54

    When are sportsmen going to learn that your word is your word.?! Trust is earned over years, but destroyed by one stupid, careless mistake... every time..! Come on guys, THINK before you embarrass yourselves, time and again...

  • FACT - 2011-08-03 07:55

    So there's the end to yet another career, precipitated by the bulls... Njoy warming the bench till you hang the boots Jano, A great man once said, Every man has got the right to make a fool of himself!

  • AjAxxxx - 2011-08-03 08:19

    Ek sou oorsee gaan speel as ek hy was. Die Bulls era is verby for the moment. Hulle verloor meeste van hulle "greats". Hence hulle belaglike spending spree.

      TruthTeller - 2011-08-03 14:40

      Jy droom. BULLS will be back in one year.

  • John - 2011-08-03 09:06

    I think perhaps the Lions should grow up a bit. Does anyone with half a brain go to their employer and tell them I am considering joining another company?

  • burger hoon - 2011-08-03 09:34

    its not like he can go and say "no I am going to keep my options open" its bad taste from the lions to request of him not to negotiate with no garuntees from their side...

  • Oukoos - 2011-08-03 10:06

    Met Vermaak uit die span, is die Lions beslis sterker. Die Blou Bulle identifiseer gewoonlik potensiële talent redelik goed, maar met Vermaak het hulle die pot lelik misgesit.

      JohnnyBB - 2011-08-03 10:34

      ....the Bulls buy talent... .......the WP/Stormers buy has-beens.....

      docraven - 2011-08-03 11:12

      Johnnybb.. seems like your talent is working out just great so far.LOL

      Oukoos - 2011-08-03 11:15

      @JOHNNYBB, I cannot argue with an idiot. You will drag me down to your level and beat me with experience.

      Raka13 - 2011-08-03 11:34

      Oukoos, ek dink Vermaak is 'n goeie koop vir die Bulle, hy is 'n baie goeie speler, dit sal goed wees vir hom om saam meer ervare spelers te speel in die sin van toets spelers en by-gesê die Bulle wen meer games as die Lions. By die Lions is hy die ou met die ervaring, dit is dieselfde ervaring wat ons by die Leopards en Pumas sien?

      TruthTeller - 2011-08-03 14:41

      Ag asb oukoos gan klim in die graf.

  • kosie - 2011-08-03 10:28

    the lions have now lost Cocket and vermaak, they are probably going to play jantjies at scrummie Lol

  • Johan - 2011-08-03 10:47

    wow thats a good move, hanging up the boots and still get payed!!! well done Jano, leke benchwarm vi die res van jou career !! Op n manier verdien jy dit !!

  • The Pro - 2011-08-03 11:04

    Jano Vermaak is too individualistic for the structured rugby at the Bulls and anyway he is not going to enjoy playing second fiddle to Francois Hougaard who is practically guaranteed the number 9 jersey once Du Preez departs so this was really not such a smart move surely?He should have gone to province because The Sharks games suits McLeod,Bulls have Hougaard and the Cheetahs two scrummies are homegrown and well supported?

  • Duncan Gohl - 2011-08-03 11:10


  • Koos - 2011-08-03 13:44

    but he is still getting paid.... so whats the diffs..... Mitchell is just shooting himself in the foot!!

  • caleb69 - 2011-08-04 08:36

    Hope he does not get any game time for the rest of the season, also hope he brakes his ancle as soon as he joins the cows

  • Jason - 2011-08-04 09:03

    so his gonna join apex players...not bottom feeders

  • Bay Shark - 2011-08-05 08:42

    Why not release him now if you don't wanna play him?

  • Rob van den Heuvel - 2011-08-05 10:35

    In the professional era players will come and players will go, get used to it.

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