Lions content with No 2 spot

2012-10-11 18:00

Johannesburg - Golden Lions coach Johan Ackermann cannot see Griquas beating the Sharks - hence his decision to field a weaker team against the Blue Bulls at Coca-Cola Park on Saturday.

Ackermann on Thursday made eight changes to his starting XV, as a precautionary measure, for their final round-robin Currie Cup clash.

The men from Johannesburg are already guaranteed a spot in next week's playoffs and Ackermann has opted to rest his key players for this weekend's Jukskei derby.

The hosts, already assured of a home semi-final, are likely to remain in second place on the log unless Griquas beat table toppers the Sharks in Durban on Friday. If Griquas win, and the defending champions beat their Pretoria neighbours, they will finish top and secure themselves a potential home final.

"I had to make a decision, hoping Griquas do us a favour, and on that hope, risk some key players," Ackermann said after he named his team on Thursday.

"Or I must go with my gut feeling and say, if they are not going to win, I have the opportunity to rest some key players that have played a lot of rugby."

Ackermann said he made his decisions based on the assumption that the coastal side would cement their place at the top of the standings with a victory over the Peacock Blues.

"I'm just going to back that and go with the scenario where I believe the Sharks will win and we will have no doubts on Monday when we start choosing the side," he said.

"I want the core group of guys fit and I still believe there are players that really need that rest."

The Lions mentor has picked only two of his returning Springbok players, with Pat Cilliers replacing Jacobie Adriaanse at tighthead prop and CJ van der Linde replacing JC Janse van Rensburg at loosehead.

The side's star flyhalf, Elton Jantjies, could be given an opportunity to face his Bulls counterpart Morné Steyn off the bench.

Lions stalwart Franco van der Merwe will move to the bench with Paul Willemse taking his place at lock in the run-on side.

In the backline, Anthony Volmink will receive a starting berth in the place of Ruan Combrinck who shifts to fullback in place of Andries Coetzee.

Ackermann has made wholesale changes to his loose trio with Cobus Grobbelaar, Jaco Kriel and Warren Whiteley replaced by Jaco Kriel, Derick Minnie and Willie Britz respectively.

With regular captain Janse van Rensburg rested for the clash, flyhalf Butch James will for the first time in his illustrious career captain a side at professional rugby level.

While the Lions have taken the luxury of resting some of their players, the Bulls have been given a boost with the return of their Springboks.

The Pretoria side will be crossing the Jukskei river determined to secure a playoff spot with a victory and in the process avoid the relegation zone.

Ackermann insisted the Lions had not made the task significantly easier for the Bulls.

"Regardless of what side we selected it would be a tough game because they (the Bulls) will be a full-strength side," Ackermann said.

"We are going out to win the game and there is no doubt in my mind that the players will feel the same.

"If the Bulls are good enough to beat us with the team they bring, then they deserve a place in the semis."

Ackermann, however, sent a stern warning to the Bulls not to underestimate his side.

"It is definitely not a given that they are going to win and hopefully the Bulls don't think that way, otherwise they are going to have a surprise."



15 Ruan Combrinck, 14 Deon Helberg, 13 Deon Van Rensburg, 12 Alwyn Hollenbach, 11 Anthony Volmink, 10 Butch James (captain), 9 Ross Cronje, 8 Willie Britz, 7 Derick Minnie , 6 Jaco Kriel, 5 Paul Willemse, 4 Michael Rhodes, 3 Pat Cilliers, 2 Callie Visagie, 1 CJ van der Linde

Substitutes: 16 Bandise Maku, 17 Jacobie Adriaanse, 18 Franco van der Merwe, 19 Warren Whiteley, 20 Whestley Moolman, 21 Elton Jantjies, 22 Lionel Mapoe

Blue Bulls:

15 Zane Kirchner, 14 Akona Ndungane, 13 JJ Engelbrecht, 12 Francois Venter, 11 Bjorn Basson, 10 Morné Steyn, 9 Jano Vermaak, 8 Arno Botha, 7 Jacques Potgieter, 6 Dewald Potgieter (captain), 5 Flip van der Merwe, 4 Juandre Kruger, 3 Werner Kruger, 2 Willie Wepener, 1 Morne Mellett

Substitutes: 16 Chiliboy Ralepelle, 17 Frik Kirsten, 18 Wilhelm Steenkamp, 19 CJ Stander, 20 Francois Hougaard, 21 Louis Fouche, 22 Dean Greyling


  • ben.spreeth - 2012-10-11 18:08

    If the Bulls win, they will not be at the bottom of the log. Does this have anything to do with the decision ?

      spyker.oflanagan - 2012-10-11 18:10


      ben.spreeth - 2012-10-11 18:18

      Ackerman is an ex-Bull.

      godfrey.welman - 2012-10-11 18:20

      Fortunately for him the Sharks game is on Friday, so he will know the result before kick-off against the Bulls.

      blou.johnny - 2012-10-12 01:04

      ....5 points for the Bulls Saturday...

      jaco.groenewald.731 - 2012-10-12 07:05

      Sjame, weet nie baie van Rugby af nie!!!

      macziekpk - 2012-10-12 07:18

      This is a headline you would associate with the WP and Stormers. Just can't pull it through for the trophy

      matt.prinsloo.1 - 2012-10-12 08:18

      Time to return the favour since the Bulls voted vs the Kings... Snaaks genoeg, die 2 unies wat teen die Kings gestem het is die 2 wat die meeste gebaat het uit Oos Kaapse spelers.

      spyker.oflanagan - 2012-10-12 08:42

      Matt, gaan vreet nog n pie, toe. Idioot.

      haasbek.visser - 2012-10-12 09:44

      Hoe so Raven??

      apart1heid - 2012-10-12 11:24

      when the weepee lose tonight, they will be at the bottom of the log. Does this have anything to do with the decision??

      apart1heid - 2012-10-12 11:25

      coetzee is a y-weepee??

      matt.prinsloo.1 - 2012-10-12 15:28

      Lmga. Garage pie en steri stumpie. Tipiese Blou Bul romantic date!

      shooshyu.tu - 2012-10-13 18:55

      @apart1heid - WP won 36-15. as you were saying, want to revise your daft premature comment?

  • gary.doyle.520 - 2012-10-11 18:16

    Ackermann has shown his worth as a coach but I do not agree with his mindset here. I think it's important to build up momentum going into the semi finals irrespective of wether your place is secured or not.

      gary.doyle.520 - 2012-10-11 19:23

      While I understand that it's important to rest key players for semis it was the way he said they would be approaching the game, almost accepting defeat that i did not agree with.

      timothy.vanas - 2012-10-11 19:28

      Like Godfrey said at least the game of the Sharks will be on Friday and he will have enough time to change the team if needed.

      sponge.plank - 2012-10-11 21:50

      Look at it like this - in 2010 Super 14 bulls were assured top spot on the log going into the last round so they fielded an understrength side against the stormers in their last pool game and lost. Stormers went to Pretoria for the final two weeks later and lost to the bulls. 2010 Currie Cup Sharks were assured top spot on the log going into the last round so they fielded an understrength side against Western Province in the last pool game and lost. Province went to Durban for the final two weeks later and lost to the Sharks. Currie Cup 2011 Lions were assured of top spot on the log going into the last round so they fielded an understrength side against the Sharks in the last pool game and lost. Sharks went to Joburg for the final two weeks later and lost to the Lions. Currie Cup 2012 Lions are assured of second spot and therefore a home semi. They field an understrength side against the Bulls in the last round and will probably lose but then they might possibly play the Bulls in the semi in Joburg the next week and will beat them. Method in his madness?

      jimmy.moustache.12 - 2012-10-12 08:05

      Gary, I was both shocked and surprised when I found out you're a comment slut. I thought we had something special and I even had a elaborate scheme where we end up walking on the beach holding hands. I was recently told on news 24 that I am gay by a lad called stirrer. Sure he supports the stormers which puts him in the same class as that fat restarted kid in my kinder-garden class I told you about yesterday, but still he had a valid point. I DO HAVE A SNOR. To prime myself for your proximity, I have printed your photo out and have it sitting on the couch next to me while we watch a DVD together. Occassionally, I throw an M&M at you and pretend you giggle and tell me to stop it. We are watching Nanny Mcphee which always makes me cry. The bit at the end where her wedding dress materialises out of snow is simply beautiful but my favourite scene is where the robots turn on their human masters.

      haasbek.visser - 2012-10-12 08:21

      Snorre, moenie my span so sleg se nie dis ond FLAGSHIP span daai!!!! WP jou lekkedeurdiek2k DING!!!!!

  • spear.tackle.7 - 2012-10-11 18:17

    Okay you made the semi's, so you're resting your first choice players because they've played non-stop the whole season, and you're giving some of the boks a go because they had their rest by not playing a lot of testrugby...Clever coaching mr.A !! Bonus for the bulls ...sigh...

      kaptein.spies - 2012-10-11 19:56

      @thick spear The mighty Bulls with all their Boks back will destroy any Lions team. So better for them to rest some key players so that they can make WP 12yr cupless the next weekend

  • Generaal1 - 2012-10-11 18:46

    Baie wyse besluit, die Bulle het bewys dat dit kan werk, eerstens kry die spelers n broodnodige ruskans, tweedens word beserings voorkom aan sleutelspelers.

  • charlesdumbwin.dumbwin - 2012-10-11 20:09

    Kings content with Lions' spot.

  • nico.pretorius.946 - 2012-10-11 20:18

    good move by the LIONS, give some of the other players some game time to improve our depth before we win our semis :) GO LIONS!!!! Keep the cup in JHB :)

      kaptein.spies - 2012-10-11 20:20

      @nico Agree with you there. You'll be playing Province in the semi's, the chokers of world rugby

      charlesdumbwin.dumbwin - 2012-10-11 20:33

      Isn't that the Sharks?

      kaptein.spies - 2012-10-11 20:35

      @charles Wake up please! Sharks vs Bulls and Lions vs cupless WP in semi's Bulls-Lions final

      franklin.vandermerwe - 2012-10-11 20:44

      Wat van n WP EN BLOU BUL FINAL op Nuweland dt klink leker

      kaptein.spies - 2012-10-11 20:46

      Dan is die final 'n total walk in the park vir die Bulls. WP= chockende blindeskool

      deon.fouche.3 - 2012-10-11 21:36

      I like... Sharks vs Bulls in The Tenk.. What a semi final! 32-10 here we come! Black and white, nothing els matters!!!!!!

  • bernard.mackenzie.5 - 2012-10-11 20:25

    Perhaps returning the favour for the Bulls voting in favour of the Lions for the Super rugby relegation?

      spyker.oflanagan - 2012-10-11 20:36

      You take idiocracy to a new level.

      haasbek.visser - 2012-10-12 08:22

      Ja ons het vir KINGS gevote om vir ELTON en JACO na die FLAGSHIP span te bring!!!!

  • nico.prinsloo.92 - 2012-10-11 21:59

    Enigste manier om te keer dat die Bulle teen die Queens moet uitspeel.....die besluit het effek op ander spanne se toekoms en is swak verby!!

      blou.johnny - 2012-10-12 01:12

      nico... jy bang die WP moet teen die Queens uitspeel..??

      nico.prinsloo.92 - 2012-10-12 04:17

      @ Ryk fake doc spies & Armgat Spyker sonder tottie: as mens so na julle comments kyk kan mens verstaan waarom selfs Brakpan se pr@sies nie eers aan julle wil raak nie ;-) Kan mos nie ordentlike antwoord gee nie dan raak julle twee p@epolle mos persoonlik en vertel almal van julle eie 11 kenne en aborsies deur dit op iemand anders te laat reflekteer. Die fake doc gebruik nie eens sy eie naam nie....natuurlik te bang ons find uit van sy werklike lewe as ICU nurse? ;-)

      nico.prinsloo.92 - 2012-10-12 04:21

      @ blou Johnny: lol tenminste post jy 'n related post. Jip jong sal nie lekker wees om teen die queens te moet uitspeel nie maar ek dink eerder dit gaan Vrystaat moet wees wat op einde gaan moet uitspeel waar dit die Bulle sou gewees het. Buiten natuurlik as die verswakte Leeus verras teen die Bulle.....

      spyker.oflanagan - 2012-10-12 07:12

      Ok vaalseun, kom ek help jou gou reg. In 2010 en 2011 het die Bulls en die Sharks dit gedoen en elke keer het dit jou spannetjie bevoordeel, toe was jou bek stil. Nou dat dit miskien die Bulle gaan help, is die hele WP gemeenskap in rep en roer. Geniet jou 12de bekerlose jaar wat voorlê. Idioot.

      BlouMasjien1 - 2012-10-12 09:59

      @Nico,What about the backstabbing by wp & Cheetahs , It had a huge affect on the Lions!

  • benjamin.manuals - 2012-10-11 22:57

    Klink soos match fixing, maar net op n baie eerlike manier.....eke liaak dit ! GO BULLS - i luv you

  • Mandy Casey - 2012-10-12 00:16

    Lions B team will beat the bulls.

      kaptein.spies - 2012-10-12 04:57

      @mandy Not your brightest chirp ever my dear.

      dieter.muller.942145 - 2012-10-12 08:04

      mandy stick met 7de laan pop .... los die rugby vir die manne!!!! jy moet volgende jaar kom kuier hier in PE ... ek het 2 seisoen kaartjies vir die Super Rugby!!! EP KINGS ON THE RISE!!!

      haasbek.visser - 2012-10-12 08:23

      Mandy jy kan maar op oom Isak se skoot kom sit!!!

      apart1heid - 2012-10-12 09:15

      @haas- ...dan praat julle oor di eerste ding wat opkom??

  • blou.johnny - 2012-10-12 01:23

    ....Bulls against Lions/Sharks final.... ......and WP against EP Queens...

      suidlander.vanwyk - 2012-10-12 07:53

      Hey BJ, how is the brandy this morning? mix it with fanta this time not coke because it seems problematic to you, you are even mixing up teams

      blou.johnny - 2012-10-12 08:05

      ....EP Southern Losers... ...those jokers will not win one Super game... he he he he he...!!

  • Theuns Jacobs - 2012-10-12 06:15

    julle vergeet egter dat as die lions nie hoef te wen nie, hoef die sharks ook nie te wen nie. so versigtig met die bulles semi hopes!!!

  • theunis.botha.96 - 2012-10-12 06:45

    Could field an even weaker team agaist the Bulls with say 8-10 changes in the starting lineup.Alternatively the Lions can just give away a lot of penalties and allow Morne to loose the game single handed on behalf of the Bulls.

      spyker.oflanagan - 2012-10-12 06:52

      The Bulls will probably not loose the game. They might lose though.

  • mpho.simon.5 - 2012-10-12 06:56

    Good move coach as long the lions lift cup

  • dieter.muller.942145 - 2012-10-12 08:05

    Second last "BIG" game the Lions supporters will ever see!! next year its all happening in PE ... sorry Lions you've been swak for far 2 long! EP KINGS ON THE RISE!!!!!

      werner.n86 - 2012-10-12 09:14

      Lions can win currie cup premier div. Kings can't win a b div. Ponder on that. Lions for life

      blou.johnny - 2012-10-12 18:21

      ....and call themselves the Cheeky Queens....

  • jimmy.moustache.12 - 2012-10-12 08:12

    haha he said number 2!

      spyker.oflanagan - 2012-10-12 08:35

      Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Eddie.Minora - 2012-10-12 08:26

    Semi's Griekwas vs. Sharks WP vs. Lions

      jimmy.moustache.12 - 2012-10-12 08:38

      You're on a roll Siener Van Rensburg. Please while you at it send me tonight's power ball numbers as well.

  • john.comyn.18 - 2012-10-12 08:39

    WP will win the CC. They will play the Lions away in the semi and hammer them and go on to beat the Sharks in the final.

      spyker.oflanagan - 2012-10-12 08:43

      Like the last 11 years?

  • alida.kloppers - 2012-10-12 09:34

    Johan ons ondersteun jou besluit, en weet jy sal geen besluite neem wat die Leeus kan skaad nie. Man ek is so trots op ons spelers wat net vir Super 15 by die ander spanne geteken het(asook die ouens wat weer vir die Lions geteken het), en die ondersteuners wat niks slegs se van ander spanne en spelers nie. Man dit wys jou die kwaliteit van spelers. afrigting en ondersteuners by die Leeus. GO LIONS!!!!!!

  • frank.schoombee - 2012-10-12 13:31

    Daas net een P en dissie WP ...!!

  • karel.dutoit.50 - 2012-10-12 13:43

    Cant believe they make it so easy for the sharks. Even if the sharks lose tonight they will still stay top. GO SHARKS! Home final is a given now.

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