Doubt over Currie Cup format

2011-06-30 17:32

Cape Town - The General Council of the South African Rugby Union has the final responsibility for determining the format of the Absa Curie Cup competition, Jurie Roux, CEO of the South African Rugby Union, confirmed at the launch of the 2011 tournament in Johannesburg on Thursday.

"The President"s Council approved the principle of a strength-versus-strength format from 2012 onwards, when the future structure was reviewed at the end of 2009," said Roux.

"They gave the Competitions Committee the task of determining what format would work, within the broad principles of strength-versus-strength and the new playing calendar from 2011 onwards.

"In March, the committee confirmed that the only practicable format within those constraints was a top division of six teams and a first division of eight teams. That recommendation was accepted by the Executive Council who, in turn, must seek acceptance of their recommendation at a General Council meeting."

Roux said the rationale for the recommendation was presented to a workshop of union presidents and CEOs in Cape Town last week.

A number of concerns were raised and alternatives were discussed but none was accepted as a workable substitute.

Roux said the decision-making process was not complete and that further discussions would take place before the General Council would be asked to make a final decision.

"Both ABSA and SuperSport are aware of the debate and favour the recommended model, but the final decision rests with the unions," said Roux.

He added that the decision needed to be taken during the course of 2011 but no specific timelines had been attached.


  • Shadow - 2011-06-30 18:14

    Don't think it's a good idea, there are lots of unknown players that actually perform quite well in those mino teams. They get realized and then get better training and such and can become world class. They will also strive to take on the best to beat them therefore upping there game.

      Durasmart - 2011-07-01 13:04

      Agree with you. Without the smaller unions competing against the bigger unions, nobody would have even known who players like Bjorn Basson, Zane Kirchner and Ashley Johnson were, because they would never have been exposed to the broader rugby public outside their own home provinces when they still played for Griquas and SWD.

  • Zion - 2011-06-30 18:15

    This could probably be one of the best changes ever made to the Currie Cup top division format. The top teams of the first division will put that extra oomph into the game in order to be relegated to the Top Division. Teams like leopards and Griquas will never win the trophy but floating around at the bottom of the log.

  • crazydude - 2011-06-30 18:18

    Why hasn't the format been decided? Surely teams need to know whether there will be promotion and relegations or not and how it will work. Is this a smoke screen?

  • Justin Schon - 2011-06-30 18:35

    Lot of players will be lost. It is when the eagles, Griquas, Pumas and Boland etc Play against the top teams when players are spotted for their true ability. Many able to move to bigger Unions to Play Super Rugby later. The issue here is the Sponsor! The Sponsor doesn't want to pay extra money to small Unions that don't fill Stadiums. The question is We should be pumping more in these Unions. We should go back to the 10 team Format with 2 Relegation spots (relegation auto drop and promotion) Then Introduce Club Division and maybe one day A Strong Club could play in Currie Cup should They have the money and Players. End of Provinces Only as they only care about who is in charge and how much their salary goes up!

      Shadow - 2011-06-30 18:45

      Had the same thought.

  • Durasmart - 2011-06-30 19:01

    Just a way for the bigger unions to keep the EP Kings out of the Currie Cup, because then they will still be able to poach the young Eastern Cape talent cheaply. The Sharks probably have the biggest vested interest in this as at least 8 of the players in their current team attended Eastern Cape schools. There is a very good chance that the Kings could top the 1st Division log this year and win their promotion/relegation playoffs, as this year they have already beaten both the Pumas and Griquas covincingly in the Vodacom Cup an they are are the two strongest sides of the small unions in the Premier division. So the Kings could theoretically win both their promotion/relegation games at the end of the season and then still remain in the 1st Division .

      !!Vrystaat!! - 2011-06-30 20:14

      Do you have any idea how many of the Griquas players had to go play for the Cheetahs thanks to injuries ? The only reason you could win them is because you weren't playing against them actually. They will kick the Kings into the ground if you have to play the Griquas at full strength.

      Dewet - 2011-07-01 20:43

      u dont have a idee about rugby!!! guess u never played fagot. Why would they want to keep king out? king are buying players from big provinces. so get a brain

      BLOUBOK - 2011-07-01 23:48

      In all, eleven of Griquas players were at the cheetahs for super rugby who will all return for the Currie Cup. Whats the bet. Griquas in the finals of the Currie Cup this year with all the boks not playing Currie Cup at all.

      Durasmart - 2011-07-02 14:23

      @Dewet. I think you are probablybly a Cape a Town fagot yourself and yes I did play club rugby and Gawie Carelse, my father-in law, who was Frik du Preez Springbok lock partner in 10 tests and with whom I watched rugby almost every Saturday when he was still alive, rated my rugby knowledge. So here are the facts, not a willy nilly statement like you made with no backup.The only players the Kings bought from big unions are Jaco Engels, Tiger Mangweni, Darron Nel and Rory Duncan. The last 3 all come originally from the Eastern Cape anyway, but let me start naming Eastern Cape players that are currently playing for other unions. Dewald Potgieter, Bjorn Basson, Michael Killian, Bandise Maku, Fudge Mabeta, both Ndugane brothers, Mvovo, Steven Sykes, Keegan Daniel, Rory Kockott, Ryan Kankowski, Eugene van Staaden , Lionel Cronje, Ashley Johnson. That is already a full rugby team .

  • AmandaWhereTo - 2011-07-01 13:13

    Article abstract - "It's not a forgone conclusion that the Currie cup will be reduced from 6 to 8 teams..." Sorry to be 'that guy', but really...

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