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Cosatu: End rugby's 'boere clique'

2014-09-09 08:08

Cape Town - Trade union federation Cosatu says it wholeheartedly supports the SA Rugby Union's plans to ensure that half the Springbok team is made up of players of colour by 2019.

SARU on Monday confirmed its Transformation Strategic Plan, which aims to bring all of South Africa's representative rugby teams, along with domestic teams in line with national targets in five years.

SARU wants to make sure that by 2019 at least half the Springbok side consists of players of colour, with 60% of those required to be black African.

Cosatu on Monday released a statement on its website saying it supports SARU's new plan, hinting that a so-called 'boere clique' and 'boere mafia' still controls rugby in South Africa.

"Cosatu had been approached by a number of rugby players, both black and white, who are concerned about how a conservative old boere clique controls SA Rugby. Cosatu supports the call for quotas in rugby to ensure that the establishment within rugby don’t continue to frustrate a more representative rugby team. Clearly there are many incredibly talented and skilled black players who don’t get selected or only warm the bench. The coach (Heyneke Meyer) has brought back a lot of old retired players and has an outdated game plan that has not been able to keep track with All Blacks rugby," the statement read.

Cosatu also hit out at DSTV, which broadcasts rugby programmes via its sports channel, SuperSport.

"DSTV are also complicit in promoting the old boys club in SA Rugby and continues to put up commentators who talk up the old status quo. Cosatu supports (former Springbok wing) Ashwin Willemse for keeping SA Rugby honest by raising the difficult questions that must be considered if we are to have a more representative team and better brand of rugby. Cosatu will fight any attempts to victimise Willemse for raising these tough questions on the DSTV programme.

"Cosatu calls for the transformation plan to be discussed publicly and for inputs at all levels to be included in the discussions towards the final policy. Cosatu also calls on the sponsors, such as SA Breweries and Absa to take a stand on the matters of transformation, failing which we will call on Government to review the tax breaks they receive for their sponsorship as well as plan protest action against them."

The trade union also used 100-Test capped Springbok wing Bryan Habana as an example of how the quota system could work.

"Cosatu will remind Habana that without political pressure, he would not have made the team and would not have been able to display his amazing talent. The white establishment need black faces to give legitimacy to their manipulation of the team and those blacks must not deny that they initially got into the teams because of political pressure on the boere mafia of rugby."

SARU, meanwhile, also set a mandate for the Springbok coach to select at least five black players in his squad for the 2015 Rugby World Cup in England as well as include seven players of colour in his match-day squad in the lead-up to the tournament.

All 14 of South Africa's provincial unions approved the new strategic plan on August 13 this year and SARU has already shared the plan with SASCOC and the sports ministry.

The next step is for SARU's general council to approve the plan.

Sport24

Comments
  • Lionel Kemm - 2014-09-09 08:13

    Pathetic!!!!!!!!!!! Watch our rugby become like our soccer,a joke.

      Enig Ma - 2014-09-09 08:38

      Tony is a retard when he reasons like this. Imagine someone calling soccer a ka...rclick! Racism is so deeply enshrined in his DNA that hate clouds his mind. I am all for transformation in rugby, and I believe many selectors and coaches still select teams in a white supremacist racist manner. But fighting racism with racism aint right. Tiny Tony you are a bigot and you are an enemy to the cause and efforts of realistic liberals!

      Lucky Luke - 2014-09-09 08:44

      CIA spies in SA rugby? go on E-pony, ride that little racist donkey of yours boetie, ride it hard, into the ground just like your daddie, izoompipe!

      Grant Stockdale - 2014-09-09 08:47

      'Boere Clique' ... what rubbish is this Mampara talking ... nothing more than a Racist at heart.

      WLWillemPretorius - 2014-09-09 08:55

      Why are they allowed to say boere? But when we say something else we can be thrown in jail? Soon, i'll move out of this country, and i hope all the boere farmers join me. So that this country will have 0 food. Sick and tired of this racism.

      Mark Struwig - 2014-09-09 09:03

      Nothing is wrong with our black players but please pick them on merrit. I feel for players like Kolisi, Mahoje and De Jongh that continualy get overlooked but to base it solely on race??? Come on. This racist pig called Tony has no effen clue what goes on behind the scenes. Maybe he should learn to shut up and stop living a lavish lifestyle off the backs of his union members

      luckyluke - 2014-09-09 09:04

      In perspective: the AB Maoris selected from "Maori players" have had a few scalps in their history but generally operate in the second tier. Some become AB's whilst others don't and stick to provincial or fade, that's life and reality. would they compete at test level if left together and coached as a team? perhaps or perhaps not. Everything has a balance. it takes time to get the balance correct, time, energy, investment and commitment, not just "gimme". the balance is starting to happen, too slow for some but it is and patience is key for all parties, players in particular as their careers can be trashed in a single moment if they are not ready. However the anc and cosatu don't have the patience or the inclination to invest in order to develop the individuals. this is left to the "boere clique" like the schools, varsities, academies and unions, not a cent invested in development of ANY sport in SA, zero, zip, nada f-all just GIMME!!!

      Ruan Smit - 2014-09-09 09:05

      Everyone should please take a small amount of your time to express your concerns to the IRB. Their email: irb@irb.com. I have also send my concerns to them. Inform them that this will be very unhealthy for the sport and that the majority of SA rugby supporters will most probably boycot the sport. Recommend to them to try and boycot SA rugby if they go ahead with this. Please, this might then get some needed attention from people with some kind of an IQ. irb@irb.com

      Enig Ma - 2014-09-09 09:06

      And Baasjan, I am coloured man from the Eastern Cape Province. I agree you "boers" are certainly powerfull, physically etc. Stupid comments like this from Cosatu really f.cks up efforts of people like me to form a true coalition with "boers" to develop rugby teams representative of SA's population, by admitting and embracing each race's attributes in which they are normally ( not always) superior. Political correctness will not produce freat teams. Admit differences between races, and develop!

      Andre Voster - 2014-09-09 09:12

      Boere click my backside. Who controls soccer in S.A? yes by all means if the players are chosen on merit and how good they are no problem. BUT COSATU....... First ENSURE that ALL SOCCER TEAMS including banana banana fools represent all colours of our nation then start fidgeting with Rugby that has always been a white sport designed by white people just like most other sports. Black people never knew what soccer or rugby was until the settlers showed them now they want to pretend it is theirs? Racist , jealous bastards. Don't want to work for anything expect everything because of your skin color. I would hang my head in shame if I knew I am only in a team because of my skin colour and the government forces it and not because I am a good player.

      Bootman Wpfan - 2014-09-09 09:18

      Andre I didn't see any players hang their heads in shame during apartheid when only whites were allowed to play for the Boks. They were all too happy to reap the benefits that the colour of their skins brought them, now you want to saddle up the moral high horse. How convenient.

      Adrian Bruwer - 2014-09-09 09:28

      They don't even watch rugby..

      jacques.potgieter.313 - 2014-09-09 09:29

      Habanna is far from a quota player. He is there for his talent and now they are making it seem that he is in the team because of colour. It is krap like this that creates insecurity. They never know whether they are in the team because they are black or because they deserve to be there

      Theo Marx - 2014-09-09 09:30

      @MIcheal Rhodes : Because they are simply not the best. No one is disputing these guys' abilities. We are disputing the fact that people will get preference in a team because of their race. That's all. How difficult is that to understand?

      Mi Opinion - 2014-09-09 09:33

      There is only one solution. Let the ANC / COSATU or any of their affiliated chronies appoint a 'transformed' coach. Not a 'Boere mafia' (sic) coach. Allow him to elect 'the best' team - without prescribed quotas. Obviously this guy will not be a 'racist' and he will elect the team on 'merit'. Let that team be the representative SA team. Give the ANC what they've always wanted and even do away with the Springbok emblem. Call them the "Proteas" or whatever the ANC wants. Then let's sit back and see how well this 'transformed' team goes against the likes of the All Blacks, England and the Aussies. Let's also see how the sponsors and spectator numbers "increase".

      Michael Kruger - 2014-09-09 09:54

      Accept it whites, the blacks in this country don't accept us. They hate us! They want everything we have, but at the same time they don't want us to any of it. Which is very ironic - perhaps 'white' is better. This whole quota thing (even the removal of the Springbok logo) is just to try dominate whites. They are trying to hurt us by killing what we love - rugby. Rugby is part of our culture, not theirs - we must defend it.

      jacques.potgieter.313 - 2014-09-09 09:55

      @MR please tell me who is a better colored fly? Or hooker in SA. Don't forget about the no 2 or 3 in each position. And I don't think Steyn should be there either.

      Michael Kruger - 2014-09-09 10:09

      Rhodes, by fretting over colour? This quota saga leads me to one conclusion "Blacks can't compete at the same level as whites so they must be forced into the team" Doesn't that sound racist? Would it not be racist to force whites into our world-class soccer team?

      King Kwagga - 2014-09-09 10:38

      Don't care if the entire team are black, as long as it is on merit. But what's happening now is pure racism, when you include players based upon their race. If the IRB had any balls, they would boycot SA rugby...not the players, but the national team.

      Alewyn Merwe - 2014-09-09 11:05

      Van die spesifieke ordonnansies en regulasies van die IRR wat oortree word deur die kwotastelsel en politieke inmenging in rugby, is: Bye-Law 3: Objectives and functions of the Board 3(f) To prevent discrimination of any kind against a country, private person or groups of people on account of ethnic origin, gender, language, religion, politics or any other reason. Regulation 20: Misconduct and Code of Conduct Examples of misconduct: 20.4(c) acts or statements that are, or conduct that is, discriminatory by reason of religion, race, sex, sexual orientation, disability, colour or national ethnic group. Bye-Law 10: Membership 10(e) A Union may be suspended or expelled from IRB membership pursuant to the IRB Bye-Laws and/or Regulations if state authorities interfere in its affairs in such a manner that: (i) it may no longer be considered fully responsible for the organisation of rugby related matters in its territory.

      Jeremy Richard Schaffner - 2014-09-09 12:49

      @Michael Rhodes - I don't care what the colour of the players skin is, or that of the coach for that matter, as long as they are the best available. What matters is that we all know that a lot of talented, skilled players will be overlooked in favour of less talented and skilled players on the basis of their skin colour. Merit selection will suffer. In fact everything will suffer. We all know that. Rather let the talent develop as it is without a political agenda. We all know that the political commissars are at work here. They also want to get their grubby hands on rugby money. Don't you see that? Why be manipulated by them with their massive chips on their shoulders. Forget the past as an excuse for getting your own back. We are supposed to be non-racist now.

      Andre Voster - 2014-09-09 14:29

      Bootman fool I didn't see any banana banana players hanging their heads either? What exactly has that all black banana team ever won for South Africa?? NOTHING. Make all sports 50 / 50 then come meddle in Rugby. We will simply stop watching rugby and supporting games at stadiums and then see what SARU does next if no money is flowing in,.

      Shamiel Mathews - 2014-09-09 14:38

      The fact remains, in the the Springbok set-up, players of color are not given the opportunity. STOP hiding behind best players and merit.... If the no1 cricket team in the world can transform why cant rugby. NO it is not about whites are bigger....the 7's team produce non-white superstars because they are given the opportunity. Give non-white players an equal chance and we may have the best rugby team in the world.

      Edrich Hunt - 2014-09-09 17:36

      That Tony is a mahh ze push.

  • Kurt Griffiths - 2014-09-09 08:13

    go and organise a strike you morons!!!

      Anton Erasmus - 2014-09-09 09:03

      Organise or disorganise?

      Ruan Smit - 2014-09-09 09:05

      Everyone should please take a small amount of your time to express your concerns to the IRB. Their email: irb@irb.com. I have also send my concerns to them. Inform them that this will be very unhealthy for the sport and that the majority of SA rugby supporters will most probably boycot the sport. Recommend to them to try and boycot SA rugby if they go ahead with this. Please, this might then get some needed attention from people with some kind of an IQ. irb@irb.com

      Michael Kruger - 2014-09-09 09:14

      And there is nothing us whites will do about. I know we say we won't support rugby any longer, but watch, we will. WHY ARE WE SO USELESS AT STANDING TOGETHER? STOP BEING ASHAMED OF BEING WHITE!

      Martin Pienaar - 2014-09-09 12:14

      They are feeling SOOOOO intimidated by us... No amount of legalities are ever going to change that.. SO LIVE WITH IT!

  • Izzi Max - 2014-09-09 08:15

    HOW ABOUT THE BEST PLAYERS PLAY THE GAME!?

      Patricia Dewet - 2014-09-09 08:52

      White teachers teach the children to play rugby after school hours. Black teachers go home. First clean up your own backyard and then demand.

      Ruan Smit - 2014-09-09 09:05

      Everyone should please take a small amount of your time to express your concerns to the IRB. Their email: irb@irb.com. I have also send my concerns to them. Inform them that this will be very unhealthy for the sport and that the majority of SA rugby supporters will most probably boycot the sport. Recommend to them to try and boycot SA rugby if they go ahead with this. Please, this might then get some needed attention from people with some kind of an IQ. irb@irb.com

      Bootman Wpfan - 2014-09-09 09:29

      I've just sent them a mail asking them to ignore you idiots. I've explained to them how much black talent is falling through the cracks because whites think they own rugby.

      Bootman Wpfan - 2014-09-09 09:49

      How did Handre Pollard battle to get to the top? He didn't prove himself at SR level but somehow managed to play three tests for the Boks. When Elton Jantjies was selected you white people were up in arms about it, labelling him a quota. He had then already played SR and helped the Lions win a CC.

      Andre Drinkwater - 2014-09-09 10:16

      Micheal, like Patricia Dewet said, clean up your own back yard. The reason black players in Varsity don't make it, is because they are not good enough. They didn't get the training that the white players received. It is not the Varsity coaches' job to mentor or train these guys. If they get to that level and they are not good enough then they are not good enough. Get the basics right in the township schools i.e. coaching and mentoring and then they will be able to make the team on merit. They already get Tertiary education for free, why should they get selected for a sport that Caucasian South African are so passionate about and black South Africans just want to see Bafana loose.

  • Quintin Meiring - 2014-09-09 08:15

    idiots...you cant even spell rugby...piss of u c...s

      Ruan Smit - 2014-09-09 09:06

      Everyone should please take a small amount of your time to express your concerns to the IRB. Their email: irb@irb.com. I have also send my concerns to them. Inform them that this will be very unhealthy for the sport and that the majority of SA rugby supporters will most probably boycot the sport. Recommend to them to try and boycot SA rugby if they go ahead with this. Please, this might then get some needed attention from people with some kind of an IQ. irb@irb.com

      Bootman Wpfan - 2014-09-09 09:29

      I've just sent them a mail asking them to ignore you idiots. I've explained to them how much black talent is falling through the cracks because whites think they own rugby.

  • Barbells Dumbells - 2014-09-09 08:16

    Me as a white person tend to agree with it, but I don't wanna see for example let's take marcell coetzee, if he is playing well he should get chosen. They should not take him out and put maybe Oupa Mohoje in if he is not playing so well. The best players should be chosen and if it means that the starting 15 is all white then so be it! The best counts not your colour of your skin.

      Theo Marx - 2014-09-09 08:36

      This is everyone on this forum's point of view. But unfortunately not the view of the racist ANC government. Please expose this so called Boere Mafia ... or stop talking BS please.

      Ruan Smit - 2014-09-09 09:06

      Everyone should please take a small amount of your time to express your concerns to the IRB. Their email: irb@irb.com. I have also send my concerns to them. Inform them that this will be very unhealthy for the sport and that the majority of SA rugby supporters will most probably boycot the sport. Recommend to them to try and boycot SA rugby if they go ahead with this. Please, this might then get some needed attention from people with some kind of an IQ. irb@irb.com

      Bootman Wpfan - 2014-09-09 09:30

      I've just sent them a mail asking them to ignore you idiots. I've explained to them how much black talent is falling through the cracks because whites think they own rugby.

      Theo Marx - 2014-09-09 09:52

      PS: the last sentence was not aimed at you, but at Cosatu.

      trev2 - 2014-09-09 11:35

      Agreed. Most white people would be very happy with a 100% black team, if those were the best players available.

  • Rian Van Jaarsveld - 2014-09-09 08:16

    Well lets consider this if Black rugby team is what they want then let them have it. The prices of tickets will have to decline because the black folk wont pay R650 a test ticket at Ellis Park as well as the jerseys, then there is a decline in white viewership on DSTV which Super Rugby is all about so more money lost to the sport of Rugby and soon there will be budget cuts on development programmes. All the good white players will have European and Japanese contracts so effectively SA Rugby will suffer the same fate as Bafana Bafana and rank in the bottom half of the table. Even our coaches will go overseas

      Quiva Mguca - 2014-09-09 08:36

      BS. If anybody wants to leave, then by all means let them. TRUE South Africans will stay behind to build it up again. much like how we are building up the rest of the country that white ppl ruined! we will tear the sport down, dismantle all the racist systems that govern it and build it up again. Its either you're with it or you're not. You cannot fight it.

      Theo Marx - 2014-09-09 08:43

      That's beside the point. Even if black people did have the money (and believe me they do), why should they not be able to watch the best possible people playing the game? Who would want to go and watch a game if you know the people that are on the field are simply political pawns? That's the same reason why I wouldn't watch SA rugby anymore.

      Compos Mentis - 2014-09-09 08:54

      Man Quiva, you guys have a funny way of building things up......

      Ruan Smit - 2014-09-09 09:06

      Everyone should please take a small amount of your time to express your concerns to the IRB. Their email: irb@irb.com. I have also send my concerns to them. Inform them that this will be very unhealthy for the sport and that the majority of SA rugby supporters will most probably boycot the sport. Recommend to them to try and boycot SA rugby if they go ahead with this. Please, this might then get some needed attention from people with some kind of an IQ. irb@irb.com

      Bootman Wpfan - 2014-09-09 09:31

      I've just sent them a mail asking them to ignore you idiots. I've explained to them how much black talent is falling through the cracks because whites think they own rugby.

      Bootman Wpfan - 2014-09-09 09:50

      Thought you wouldn't notice...............

  • Ejaaz Haswary - 2014-09-09 08:17

    Why cant half the bafana bafana team be non-black? Bee was meant to equalize not superiorise.

      WLWillemPretorius - 2014-09-09 08:57

      Don't worry. Afriforum will fight. IRB will take us out of the WC in 2019, due to all this political interferences.

      Bootman Wpfan - 2014-09-09 09:51

      Afriforum can't fight anything. They are all mouth, like the rest of you. You have been singing the same song for the last ten years.

  • Izzi Max - 2014-09-09 08:17

    " Cosatu will remind Habana that without political pressure, he would not have made the team and would not have been able to display his amazing talent " .... What, utter racist ridiculous bs is this!?!?!?!

      Daniel Wessels - 2014-09-09 08:40

      Didn't you know, Brian is a quota player, Cosatu knew that Brian was great and pressurised SA rugby to pick him,,, also they saw him playing at school and pressurised the Bulls to pick him,,,, NOT,,, they know absolutely stfall about rugby and to insult Brian like that is absolute Cr@p

      Ernie Pienaar - 2014-09-09 08:54

      Habana came from a private school in JHB. He himself said that he made it though the ranks without color ever being a factor, and that TALENT was the deciding reason for his rugby career.

      Gringod Rules - 2014-09-09 08:54

      And the funny thing is his son will probably not make the quota list.

      Jean-Pierre Van Vuuren - 2014-09-09 09:50

      Michael you're contradicting yourself in your statement. By saying that we're stuck in the past but then you ask if he would've been picked in 1970?? C'mon, most of us have moved on and watch the game for what it is. I don't look at the players after we've lost and say it was because Habana is coloured. I support South Africa, and if it meant that all the players picked were black based on merit and not race, then so be it. I just want to see us play the game and become the best. The word "black" or "white" or "coloured" should not be used in sport. It used be based on merit

  • Dave Mills - 2014-09-09 08:18

    What happened to selecting the BEST 15 players irrespective of their race surely that is how transformation should work!

      luckyluke - 2014-09-09 08:56

      Dave it's about investment, hard work and building up, not a strength of the anc.

      WLWillemPretorius - 2014-09-09 08:59

      That was when mandela still lived. When the Anc leader was not rasict. Now it has changed.

  • Barbells Dumbells - 2014-09-09 08:20

    What boere cliche, its the black people bringing up the whole colour thing of black and white. Black and white is just a pigmentation of our skin, and everybody in South Africa are fighting about that. Let go of affirmative action and BEE, those are racist agenda's. The best should be chosen irrespective of your colour whether it be in your job or sport!!!

      Izzi Max - 2014-09-09 08:23

      They have to push it, they know without they would not have a snowballs chance in hell, unless they were actually any good, pretty much like the ANC, well the majority like the idea, so we are free to do whatever the hell we want.... Watch the fans drop, so will the money, and their own racism will bleed the sport to pieces. Thank you for ruining the last honest bastion of loyalty and hard work you incredibly greedy racist pricks.

  • Alfa Blanco - 2014-09-09 08:27

    End soccer's tsotsi cilque

      WLWillemPretorius - 2014-09-09 09:01

      Soon to be the national rugby show also.

  • Christo Botha - 2014-09-09 08:27

    I guess you will also support empty stadiums??And support teams who perform like Bafana Bafana over the years??

  • Barbells Dumbells - 2014-09-09 08:27

    I would like to ask a black person if he agrees with this agenda of transformation. Black people specially the men have a lot of pride. So I wanna know would you as a black person honestly enjoy playing for South Africa if you were put there because of your colour? Can some black person answer me on that?

      Quiva Mguca - 2014-09-09 08:51

      Black men have alot of pride? .. I'm a black man and indeed i am proud but none more than any man of any colour should have.. Any player who gets to represent their country in any sport must do so with pride. i believe true sportmen always do. Its an opportunity to prove them wrong , to grow! so yes i would play with a great deal of pride irrespective of who , what, when!

      Mi Opinion - 2014-09-09 09:40

      @Quiva - you did not answer the question. Would you be proud to know that you have been selected not because you are the best in your position, but because of your skin colour?

  • Armand Petzer - 2014-09-09 08:29

    Let ALL the soccer teams consist out of 30% indian, white and 30% colour and 40% black. Why doent they do that? Because they are racistic. Its a black clique.

  • Gordon Jackson - 2014-09-09 08:34

    Let them take the sport to the lowest level, like Soccer and then see if the Aussies and All blacks will want to play against us. I am encouraging my family to get out of this messy country asap.

      Quiva Mguca - 2014-09-09 08:54

      Bye.... we wont miss you and your family.

  • Ruan Smit - 2014-09-09 08:35

    jy is ongelooflik dom!

  • Adam Barnard - 2014-09-09 08:35

    TOTSIENS MY VADERLAND

  • Donovan Dunn - 2014-09-09 08:35

    they say its COSATU, but we all know its just Tony Ehrenreich hiding behind the COSATU name mouthing off his racist drivel as usual. This man is unrepentant in his criticism of anything related to minorities. He wouldn't know the difference between a strike and a scrum but pertains to know whats best for Rugby. Guaranteed he wont watch a single game when the Blackboks are getting thumped like Samoa on a monthly basis.

  • Ruan Smit - 2014-09-09 08:35

    jou kinders en die res van jou familie is vuil gemors!

  • Terence Wessels - 2014-09-09 08:40

    What the hell have you smelly communists got to do with sport? Stick to dancing outside your workplaces. It's all you morons are good for anyway. Disgusting racists.

  • Danny Van Der Walt - 2014-09-09 08:42

    Bigotry : is a state of mind where a person views other groups with fear, distrust, prejudice or hatred solely on the basis of ethnicity, race, religion, national origin, gender, disability, sexual orientation, socioeconomic status, or other group characteristics.

  • Delano Els - 2014-09-09 08:43

    Get ready for this...COSATU you p**s!!!! And I'm not taking that pack. How about 50% of that banana banana soccer squad as well then....maybe they might start winning a match or two...

  • Louise Athiros - 2014-09-09 08:45

    I don't mind if the whole team is "of another colour" as long as they get there on merit and is an asset to South African rugby.

  • Zuma de Boer - 2014-09-09 08:45

    I feel sorry for the boere. If they take away rugby then he'll only be left with bles bridges' greatest hits. They are built like battleships and are made for rugby. SARU better start weaning black players off samp and beans and shove massive amounts of beef and pork down their throats. I'm with the boere on this one.

  • Douglas Ross - 2014-09-09 08:46

    How dare they say that quotas got Habana into the team? If I was him I would ask them for an apology. He is one player who played brilliantly and deserved a spot and would have made it with or without quotas.

      Bootman Wpfan - 2014-09-09 08:54

      The fact is............fumduck. If apartheid had not ended, Habana's talent would have been lost to SA. Just last week I was watching a replay of the 1997 CC final between FS and WP..............Guess what............not one single player of colour. Not even one..............and that was after the end of apartheid.

      Bootman Wpfan - 2014-09-09 09:04

      ..........and WP?

      Douglas Ross - 2014-09-09 09:31

      @Bootman, you mention that in 1997 there was no black players in the final, but now there is. Do you think it is due to quotas, or maybe just hard working black players, that after apartheid started practising rugby, and bettered themselves so that they can make the team now? If the racist ANC government didn't just start taking and giving, but instead started proper training schools, then we wouldn't have had a problem with black players in rugby. I have no problem with any player of colur playing for the springboks, I do however have a problem with people playing without deserving to be there. But I guess you are one of those idiots who like to take from other people work hard to get what they have. One of the uneducated anc freeloaders

      Bootman Wpfan - 2014-09-09 09:40

      Xana I'm not trying to be rude to you because you seem like a decent guy but if you knew anything about Errol's time with the Boks, you would use his name to strengthen your argument. All I will say is.............different sleeping quarters, different shower facilities etc etc etc.

      Douglas Ross - 2014-09-09 09:53

      Yes, and that's due to Apartheid which was wrong, but the fact remains, even during apartheid he made the team. So if coloured players cant make the team now, they have only themselves to blame

  • Willie Struwig - 2014-09-09 08:47

    The only governing body who can put a real stop to this is the IRB. There are rules and regulations that specifically state that any political interference in a national team should be met with immediate suspension and expulsion from any international competitions. The IRB is turning a blind eye to this due to the amount of money SA rugby generates.

  • Jeanette Rossouw - 2014-09-09 08:49

    Are they going to choose colour over expertise? And what if the blacks don't want to play rugby 'cause soccer is their sport of choice, will there be no more rugby? Sad, sad day.

      Thonwi Mudzielwana - 2014-09-09 09:01

      That's bull crap,who told u such kind of rubbish,under 19 and all the other youth structure of rugby is more than 60percent black but those players they do not make it to the senior team, Why? By the way those players are not in soccer.

      Bra G Martin - 2014-09-09 15:01

      Dean, black mamba children? really?

  • Gringod Rules - 2014-09-09 08:52

    Please can someone get these players that are being held back because of color to stand up and point out the coach that will rather have white players than the best player regardless of race? No coach would rather lose than put players of color in their team. If their is racism in Rugby stop it now why wait till 2019?

  • Fanie Koekemoer - 2014-09-09 08:53

    Pick a all black team and let play against Autralia or All Blacks an see what the outcome will be.

  • Fanie Koekemoer - 2014-09-09 08:54

    Pick a all black team and let play against Autralia or All Blacks an see what the outcome will be.

  • Eddie Jnr De Gouveia - 2014-09-09 08:54

    I love the Springboks! I dont miss a single match! WHY WHY WHY do you $%#$ers who are hunting for votes and support threaten our team! I do not care if the scrum half is white/coloured/black... He must just put it in!!! I dont care what the colour of the Springbok is who scored the try! Just score the dam try! We are tied in a rivalry with probably the best rugby teams in the world and now you going to tie the coaches hands behind his back because he is not allowed to pick the best team South Africa has to offer! You guys are so obsessed with colour im sure you even want top put quotas on how often people drink white coffee!!!

  • Francoise Van Rheede - 2014-09-09 08:54

    There is no space for politics in sport. No matter how you look at it if you play for your country you should play on merit, it don't matter if you're pink, purple or as blue as a smurf ability and merit comes first!

      tony.becker.961 - 2014-09-09 08:58

      No matter what we know about politics and sport, these idiots will not be happy until they've broken everything.

      Thonwi Mudzielwana - 2014-09-09 09:07

      Stop smoking weed,the only good thing here is to force those boere moron who think rugby is there personal treasure to except transformation or if they do not want they must go hang or jump to deapest ocean

      martin.vanloggerenberg - 2014-09-09 09:22

      Thonwi, you just racist bud

  • Hannes Viljoen - 2014-09-09 08:55

    Crazy. If our rugby was like our soccer, no one would be interested in "fixing" it!

  • Derek Adami - 2014-09-09 08:57

    Maybe its time to break away from SARU and traditional world structures free of political influence - something like the IPL in India. Look what a success that is!! That way we might also get refs that are accountable for pathetic performances.

      Bra G Martin - 2014-09-09 15:05

      Success for who? IPL was designed by the Indians for one reason: to expose their youngsters to world class players in order to win the CWC.

  • Mark Struwig - 2014-09-09 08:59

    F.u.c.k you Ehrenreich you racist pig

  • Emma Sanderson - 2014-09-09 09:00

    I highly disagree. Cosatu should actually do something for their union members for a change and actually earn the ridiculous amount they do for doing pretty much nothing (have you ever heard of them reimbursing members during strikes?). Each non white player in the team is chosen on their own merit and is beloved by all bok fans. It is an honour to be a Springbok. Bafana battle to get the players to want to play, you don't see Cosatu trying to sort out that big mess do you? With regards to transformation it should be at grass roots level - the education department needs to upgrade the facilities and training for rugby at schools across SA. Why is their failure to do so being blamed at higher levels? This is so ludicrous do you see Americans carrying on because most of the basketball players are African American? No they don't because they recognise that the best person for the job results in the best team and the best result. Colour does not factor there and it shouldn't here. What ridiculous inferiority complexes are there that would insist on these ridiculous changes? This is so damaging to the sport. Right now at primary school level, we have instances where the best kids aren't chosen because they aren't dark enough. How does that help the sport? I think Juan de Jongh should get a shot at centre for the Boks not because of his colour but because he is playing brilliantly. And I think if you asked him he would want to be considered because of his ability.

  • Braam Du Plessis - 2014-09-09 09:02

    As long as it's on merit, nobody will have a problem. Ponder this though, had the ANC made a concerted effort to develop since 1994, there would have been plenty of low 20 something players of colour and the Bok team could have consisted with at least 60% players of colour already. COSATU on the other hand struggles to stay relevant.

  • Ruan Smit - 2014-09-09 09:05

    Everyone should please take a small amount of your time to express your concerns to the IRB. Their email: irb@irb.com. I have also send my concerns to them. Inform them that this will be very unhealthy for the sport and that the majority of SA rugby supporters will most probably boycot the sport. Recommend to them to try and boycot SA rugby if they go ahead with this. Please, this might then get some needed attention from people with some kind of an IQ. irb@irb.com

      Bootman Wpfan - 2014-09-09 09:12

      I've just sent them a mail asking them to ignore you idiots. I've explained to them how much black talent is falling through the cracks because whites think they own rugby.

  • Archie Dempster - 2014-09-09 09:05

    Important that the best team represent south Africa their thinking creates a second class team it's Important that there are proper money to develope the game

  • Coenraad CeeJay Oosthuizen - 2014-09-09 09:06

    And that was the All Blacks with the Haka, now for the Zumbucs and the Shaka lol...

  • steven.marshal.98 - 2014-09-09 09:07

    They want to remind Habana that his success is due to political interference and his talent had nothing to do with it? So they're comfortable to go about it this way...colour over merit. I guess it's the only way to get the soccer team to rank obove the Boks.

  • Johann Serfontein - 2014-09-09 09:09

    When are these people going to realise that it is not about race, it is about genetics. The majority of indiginous black tribes in South Africa are physically small, with the exception of the vendas, thr zulus and the xhosas. You cant play international rugby if you dont weigh 90kgs. You can only have one guy the size of geo allon in your team, otherwise you struggle defensively

      Viktêr Då Mystroh - 2014-09-09 09:28

      And genetics have nothing to do with race? U just disguising racism with your pathetic genetic excuse. Not all blacks are small, not all whites are big. Not all whites support your petty racism.

      Bra G Martin - 2014-09-09 15:13

      Ah, if its not colour then it must be size. Really? Shane Williams, Christian Cullen, Brent Russell, Timmy Horan were probably quota players for size.

      Luke Hill - 2014-09-09 15:32

      Johann size means nothing rather skill, this is something that the corrupt sports administrations in SA have done nothing to support or develop. Instead they expect the same people (who they label boeres etc.) to groom players of other race since the ANC has done f**k all for them. If the ANC was not so busy filling their pockets and actually did something for this country then you would easily see more players of other races coming through.

  • Bianca Paul De Sousa - 2014-09-09 09:10

    Firstly Brian Habana owes Cosatu idiots, nothing. Secondly, the IRB should get involved in this matter, as this is discrimination in the highest degree. & If south africa is left out of the 2019 RWC due to our quota policy, then so be it.

  • Luzaan Henn - 2014-09-09 09:10

    Our so called diversity has decreased over the years... There is only one accepted 'race' considered, there is no 'of color'...diversity is a understanding of culture...rugby is a culture not just a tool for politics, racism and quota!....just keep your paws to yourself!

  • kelly.oneill.125 - 2014-09-09 09:12

    Cosatu please stay out of sports!!!! What about transformation in the soccer team?

  • Andrew Lottering - 2014-09-09 09:13

    I'm all for transformation,bt it have to be on merit u dnt hear for transformation in soccer coz its an all black team last time I check when they won something big and were when a white man was captain, I know a few idiots is gonna call me racist but I'm not. Cosatu should consentrate more on their workers and leave the sports for the xperts

  • Chris Du Plessis - 2014-09-09 09:13

    If rugby must be half black why don't they make the bafana bafana half white. See who is racist. Fair is fair.

  • Brendon Cluta - 2014-09-09 09:14

    Lol! You guys are clueless! Shampies man. It is clear that they need the sport of rugby to control the black population. It doesn't make sense for ANY government that such a huge sport in SA is for the control of a minority. Obviously.

      Mfana Dyasi - 2014-09-09 09:34

      Surely you really think you are making sense in your stupid comments. I suggest that you shut your mouth,like they would say in Afrikaans:'Hou net jou bek toe'.

  • Riaan van Niekerk - 2014-09-09 09:14

    Boycott!!!

  • Awie Bothma - 2014-09-09 09:15

    Politically things are going very wrong at the moment for some people with tapes that is now going to be viewed etc. Factions/institutions like Cosatu is then used to soften the media scrutiny and bring out statements like this. There is way to much money in rugby and viewer numbers to be considered. Rugby and the broadcasting thereof and all that goes with it is to big to be determined by propagandist. Dont worry people that love rugby. One of our best rugby player ever is a player of colour and had his 100th game this past week. As long as he plays on merit I dont give a damn if he is black, pink, coloured or Indian. All Im saying is rugby is always used to divert the attention when the political stage is a bit hot. BE CALM AND WATCH RUGBY!!!! Dont stress.