Kings: Cheeky still not happy

2012-08-16 16:30

Cape Town - Southern Kings president Cheeky Watson has hit out at the SA Rugby Union (SARU) for a belated decision to give the Eastern Cape franchise only one guaranteed season of Super Rugby participation.

SARU announced on Thursday that the Kings would play in the 2013 Super Rugby competition, with the Lions dropping out for at least one year. The bottom team in 2013's competition will then play in a two-legged promotion and relegation series against the Lions.

“I think it is a ludicrous decision," Watson said after the decision was made at a SARU general council meeting in Cape Town.

"It doesn't make sense in rugby, not in business, not in the church.

“It doesn't make sense in any sector of society that you are sitting with a scenario that you are in Super Rugby for one year and expected to achieve.

"But I think we, as the South Eastern Cape, play the hand that we are dealt and we make the best of it.”

The top four teams in the South African Conference in 2012 - the Stormers, Bulls, Sharks and Cheetahs - would join the Southern Kings in the 2013 tournament, SARU announced, seven months after the proposal was first tabled by the executive council.

The Lions, who dropped out as the bottom team in the SA conference this past season, would have a chance to regain their status in 2014.

“Obviously we are very disappointed," said Lions president Kevin de Klerk.

"We had hoped the immense amount of work that we did in the background - ourselves and with SARU - would have culminated in a better result."

De Klerk, however, was pleased that the Lions would have a chance to regain their place.

“This is effectively a four or five month exit to the Super Rugby process, whereby this competition will be revisited in terms of a playoff scenario, and we will contest that - should we still be around at that stage - most vigorously.”

SARU confirmed that the promotion/relegation playoff would also be in place in 2014 and 2015, at which point the broadcast rights contract expired and a different format could be considered.

SARU president Oregan Hoskins said the decision to include an Eastern Cape franchise in the Super Rugby tournament was first made in 2005, but was twice postponed.

"All rugby provinces have been consistently in support of the need for an Eastern Cape team in the Super Rugby competition," Hoskins said.

"We made a commitment to the Kings to include them in 2013 and rugby has delivered on that commitment.

"The franchise represents more clubs than any other region - apart from the Stormers - and contains numerous leading rugby schools.

"It has been starved of top-class rugby competition for a decade-and-a-half and now it has the chance to show what it can do."

Hoskins said SARU and the Kings had wanted a "rugby solution" to accommodate six franchises in five places and Thursday's announcement had delivered on the promise, as hard as it was for the relegated team.

"The provinces asked for a rugby solution and we believe that this was the fairest and most transparent method to respond to what is undoubtedly a less than ideal situation," he said.

"We also canvassed Super Rugby players before the start of the season, through the Players' Association, and this was their preferred mechanism.

"We will continue to push the case for early expansion within SANZAR.

"Negotiations on a new broadcasting rights deal will begin shortly and the inclusion of six South African franchises will be firmly top of our agenda."


  • robbie.crouch - 2012-08-16 16:36

    Cheeky optimist! They will end up bottom of the log in any case...

      squeegee.pilot - 2012-08-16 17:01

      Gravy train is only making a pitstop...

      freddie.miff - 2012-08-16 17:07

      The Kings do not deserve even one year in Super Rugby... cheeky beggars.

      erich.goosen - 2012-08-16 17:08

      This guy (CW) is a shameless opportunist and is too stupid to realize that by allowing the Kings to play in the Super 15 (without promotion/relegation games with the team last on the log) will do great harm to rugby in general (I was born in the Eastern Cape but cannot support this).

      Dakey - 2012-08-16 17:26

      Just like the Lions have the last what, ten years? This is an unrealistic proposal, benefiting neither the Lions, nor the Kings. You do not even have a season in which to mould a team, coach them or acquire players or sponsorship. Perhaps Watson should have taken the R40 million and put it in his back pocket? Can't win either way can he?

      champ.sepa - 2012-08-16 17:29

      Both sides are getting screwed here - Lions out of S15 just 5 months before the start of the new season, and the Kings playing way above their league. The Kings will struggle to attract meaningful sponsorship deals to recruit players if they can only offer 1 year of good TV coverage and then face possible relegation again. And the Lions will loose players and will then have to fight their way back without a couple of their strongest players the next year. - 2012-08-16 17:38

      Lions vs EP Kings in 2012: Recently the Lions B team beat the EP Kings in PE in a Vodacom cup match... Sad day for SA rugby. Prepare for cricket scores against the Kings.

      JaredVN - 2012-08-16 17:47

      So if the EP has more clubs and therefore more players than any other union, what's wrong? Why can't they even win the CC 2nd Division? One explanation may be that the players in the EP, many of them with Koi, San and Xhosa ancestry (the Xhosas also interbred with the Koi) are simply physically too small to be competitive. What the above implies is they will have to import big guys from other provinces, which utterly defeats the supposed object of developing rugby in the EP (of course this is not the real reason - the real reason is to make money for the stinking Watson ANC cadres.)

      Wesley - 2012-08-16 17:51

      Cheecky what do you want, Saru can't garrantee the super xi cup, that you must earn

      selma.botha.9 - 2012-08-16 18:04

      Guaranteed 5 points in the bag. Even the tryless Stormers will score 4 tries against them.

      nicnac.nac - 2012-08-16 18:19

      @JaredVN you nailed it mate, couldn't have said it better. Suprised that News24 haven't removed your comment yet.

      nicnac.nac - 2012-08-16 18:28

      You gotta feel for the other 21 Kings' players, Cheeky and Puke just made them the most unpopular team in SA.

      Dakey - 2012-08-16 19:13

      Lions 2012: Finished: 15th Won 3, Lost 13. Their best season in super rugby for three years! Last THREE years, how many wins? 6 Stormers won more games in 2012 than the Lions did in their last five years of super rugby. I would have thought everyone in Johannesburg would be elated they don't have a super rugby team any more...

      dewald.botha.50 - 2012-08-17 08:48

      Can't the Provinces fire SARU? They created the problem and now they hurt rugby in SA!

      dewald.botha.50 - 2012-08-17 08:55

      This Watson family who by the way wanted to puke on our Bok shirt should be charged with treason! What is wrong with SARU, no back bone!

  • robbie.crouch - 2012-08-16 16:38

    Dragging in that church comment shows his lack of reality!

      ron.rielander - 2012-08-16 17:46

      The top four teams in the South African Conference in 2012 - the Stormers, Bulls, Sharks and Cheetahs - would join the Southern Kings in the 2013 tournament,,,, WTF SK are joining the other four teams. not the other way around, idiots.

  • dave.short.102 - 2012-08-16 16:39

    Wonder what KP would call this guy? Probably a dooooooooooooooo.................. Jy en jou seuntjie is n Andrew Strauss.................

      wynand.kruger1 - 2012-08-16 16:49

      Thank you Dave, that was the first word going through my mind when I read this, hell!!!!

  • jovan.daniels.7 - 2012-08-16 16:39

    But you got a chance that you never really deserved! Take it, enjoy it.

  • deon.fouche.3 - 2012-08-16 16:40

    Poor thing! He know they will only last 1 season!

  • jan.heunis - 2012-08-16 16:41

    He should count his lucky start if you asking me. The idiots cant even make it into the Curry Cup premier division but want play Super Rugby. Well they will last only one season next year and then the Lions will be back again i cant see these idiots doing well or lasting long in Super Rugby. Top 8 teams are going to put on Cricket scores against these guys.

  • pietskietgospringbokke.springbok - 2012-08-16 16:42

    Check watson and puke happy with nothing want everything on a silver plate. Please go cry us a river Go Bulls Go Sharks Go Cheetahs Go Stormers go klap them next year Sorry Lions you will be back in 2014

      ChrisinOz294 - 2012-08-17 01:10

      @Pietskiet. So true. But at least the SA teams will have one season to do what Australian sides have done for two seasons. The only reason one or two Aus teams do relatively well is because they play against pathetic teams (Force, Rebels) which gives them a gauranteed 10 points per season (and with a little help from the conference system). SA will now have 4 teams with a gauranteed 10 points from the Kings. Much better chances to have 3 or 4 teams in the top half of the log.

  • uwe.klopfer - 2012-08-16 16:42

    the lions may have deserved better, or better warning, but I am a proud lion supporter can only say that they put themselves in this situation by being the worst team...for a couple of years running. To the GLRU : Get your house and finances in order and make a proper comeback, you haven't been the most deserving super franchise. to the southern kings : I hope you lose every single game... I used to say I support the Lions and anyone vs the stormers...its changed to anyone vs the kings... SARU stuffed this one up for politics and nothing else

      nico.pretorius.946 - 2012-08-16 17:23

      my thoughts exactly, the Lions now got a year to get their house in order without the added super15 pressure. they should focus on winning CC this year and next, and winning the Vodacom. do whatever they have to to keep the players. the queens will take all the Lions records next year, so the Lions can start with a clean slate :) o yes, and i'm saving bout 4k in dstv subscription since i don't need it now during the super rugby tournament :)

      sean.brady.14224 - 2012-08-16 17:52

      Without Super rugby the Lions may not exist this time next year! So who will play the Kings for that spot? I really hope our Lionsput up a great showing in the Currie Cup again this year. 2013 will be the first time I support an and NZ side in SA - when they play the Kings........

  • lablue.phoenix - 2012-08-16 16:42

    Moenie worry nie Cheeky. Die Kings het nou vir Catrakilis, so julle is sorted.

      deon.fouche.3 - 2012-08-16 17:08

      As iemand jou vra wat jy eendag wil word, se vir daai persoon jy wil graag wakker word!

      lablue.phoenix - 2012-08-16 17:20

      Ek was sarkasties. Is jy 'n retard, of wat is fout met jou?

      deon.fouche.3 - 2012-08-16 17:53

      Ok retard, maar hoe bring jy daai 2 bymekaar uit? Ek sien nie die sarkasme in jou comment nie.

      jason.children - 2012-08-16 18:42

      WOW im not even Afrikaans and I can read the sarcasm in his statement!

      ChrisinOz294 - 2012-08-17 01:12

      @deon.fouche. WOW, maar jy is dof!! Lyk of jy die een is wat moet wakker word. @lablue. Het hulle nie ook vir Puke nie? Dit gaan mos dan 'n dodelike kombinasie wees!! Die Chiefs bewe in hul broeke.

      lablue.phoenix - 2012-08-17 08:53

      Luke Watson, die Richy McCaw van Suid Afrikanse rugby.

      backstabber.adder - 2012-08-17 16:15

      The Richie McKots of SA Rugby. Hehehehe....

  • dewald.pretorius.37 - 2012-08-16 16:43

    What an idiot,give him the little finger and he wants to grab the whole arm.

      leonard.riggien - 2012-08-17 10:51

      rather give him the middle finger

  • fanie.viljoen.73 - 2012-08-16 16:45

    Good news on the one hand, 5 pointers guaranteed to the SA teams. Lions will be back one year later. If the EP cant even win the Vodacom cup, how do you warrant their place in Super 15? The Curry Cup champions exit for a team that can't play in the premier division, stupid!

      Priesterb - 2012-08-16 17:37

      Ummm fanie... The 5 points are also guaranteed to the other touring teams.

      Dakey - 2012-08-16 18:00

      five points guaranteed for SA teams already fanie. How exactly do you even begin to defend a team as bad as the lions? At least the Kings 40 supporters will outnumber the Lion's 10

      heinrich.vanjaarsveld.52 - 2012-08-16 22:20

      5 pointers u mistaken its a guaranteed 10 points for sa teams and 5 points for aus and nz teams remenber its a roundhouse games away and home leg for sa teams

  • hhbeukes - 2012-08-16 16:46

    Cheeky, jy hoef nie in die eerste jaar die Super15 te wen nie! Al wat jy hoef te doen is om die Lions teen die einde van volgende jaar te wen.....en te wys jy verdien 'n plek in die Super15, OF is dit te veel gevra?

      juan.potgieter.39 - 2012-08-16 16:48

      Of bo die and SA spanne te eindig. Dan hoef hulle nie uit te speel nie.

      boltonbarry - 2012-08-16 17:17

      Dit is te veel gevra dis hoekom hy 3 jaar wil he

      Dakey - 2012-08-16 19:16

      Presies hoeveel spelers dink jy kan die Kings koop om een jaar vir hulle te speel? Gee die provinsie (nie net die Watsons) 'n realistiese kans tenminste.

  • juan.potgieter.39 - 2012-08-16 16:50

    Was this a birthday present for Luke. Did he wake up one morning and said dad I want to play super rugby and none of the unions want my services so his dad made a plan. Geesssh and all you pesimists say the Umlungu doesen't get his way in this country anymore. LOL!!!

  • pagel.trivia - 2012-08-16 16:52

    One of the most irritating things in live is when someone cannot appreciate that you are being generous and they are getting an extremely good deal (more than they deserve). Cheeky (his name says it) irritates me.

  • steveroodt - 2012-08-16 16:57

    Dribbling Twit

  • cobus.bosman1 - 2012-08-16 16:58

    Dropping the most important Union in SA ..... for a bunch of clowns ...... a promotion relegation match should then have been from this year ..... They cant even will the Currie Cup Second devision and now they want to play Super Rugby ..... SARU is run by a bunch of palukas and politics and not by the sport it self ...... Hope the Kings K$%#$@#^# in all their games by 50 or more.........

  • cobus.bosman1 - 2012-08-16 16:58

    Dropping the most important Union in SA ..... for a bunch of clowns ...... a promotion relegation match should then have been from this year ..... They cant even will the Currie Cup Second devision and now they want to play Super Rugby ..... SARU is run by a bunch of palukas and politics and not by the sport it self ...... Hope the Kings K$%#$@#^# in all their games by 50 or more.........

  • cobus.bosman1 - 2012-08-16 17:00

    Dropping the most important Union in SA ..... for a bunch of clowns ...... a promotion relegation match should then have been from this year ..... They cant even will the Currie Cup Second devision and now they want to play Super Rugby ..... SARU is run by a bunch of palukas and politics and not by the sport it self ...... Hope the Kings K$%#$@#^# in all their games by 50 or more.........

  • chris.devos.758 - 2012-08-16 17:03

    The promotion/relegation should have taken place THIS year....let us hope the Kings do NOT embarass SA in the series.

      ChrisinOz294 - 2012-08-17 02:11

      Too late for that.

  • ja.hartzer - 2012-08-16 17:05

    Sad day for SA Rugby - The Lions out to make place for a Kindergarten Team!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • juan.nel.16 - 2012-08-16 17:06

    Cheeky try and win a 1st division cup first before you speak, as a Lions supporter I hope Kevin De Klerk gets fired as he is just as much to blame. "SARU has 50 % shares in the kings" interesting story!!!

  • bernard.ingram - 2012-08-16 17:08

    You don't even deserve one season. You deserve zero. One is better than zero pampoenkop! But that is Cheeky, he thinks he is an underprivileged person in SA, like he was a victim before. In the word of KP; "Cheeky is a d**s".

  • quartus.vanzyl - 2012-08-16 17:09

    they will be nothing more than gun fodder. expect record losses...100 and more points...the current Curry cub champions out of the super 15!? the Watson,s political connections has worked beautifully.

  • roy.wadhams.1 - 2012-08-16 17:09

    BEWARE SARU,this maaifoedie is after bigger things and he will use his ANC friends to get what he "wants" If he had his way both him and his son will want to run rugby in this country.

  • ja.hartzer - 2012-08-16 17:11

    A sad day for SA Rugby - The LIONS relegated to make place for a Kindergarten Team!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is waste of effort and money - no team can establish themselves in the Super 15 in one year. Has anybody stopped once to consider the careers af the players affected by this decision?

  • richard.lemmer1 - 2012-08-16 17:13

    They. Would want to creep in a hole somewhere themselves halfway through the season. That would be the ones that could still walk !

  • mlvwk - 2012-08-16 17:15

    A cheeky village idiot, wonder who assigned the nickname.

      boltonbarry - 2012-08-16 17:19

      Whenever he leave PE the village misses him

  • quartus.vanzyl - 2012-08-16 17:16

    the lions should approach the court to set this rubbish decision aside. clearly made by a lot of idiots.

  • sam.swanpoel - 2012-08-16 17:18

    What a f++cking idiot may you rot

  • Priesterb - 2012-08-16 17:22

    Watson just explain to us the rugby loving public exactly what have you and your team done to DESERVE your place? Give give give without working and earning it............ Your mentality sucks. Blou Bul Groete.

  • ian.wilkinson.9235 - 2012-08-16 17:24

    What about every one else in the Eastern Cape? I wish you guys would stop harping on about Cheeky Watson.Yes, he's controversial, yes Luke said some silly stuff, but GEEEEEEEEZ... get over many haters in this country! What about the morons who run WP Rugby, or SA Rugby for that matter??? the FACTS, yes FACTS, are...ALL the other provinces playing Super Rugby were given franchises..Yes, all of them...and as a result, the rugby in those provinces should improve. So all the wallies saying "you dont deserve super rugby, u haven't earned it', and 'why dont you play promotion/relegation"....its ALL bollocks, because the level of rugga in the Eastern Cape hasn't been bolstered yet by super rugby. All you people who keep mouthing off about EP rugby, and and using the above comments are absolutely clueless about how the business of sport, and basic sports admin works.... The reality though, is rather unfortunate. The Kings have only been guaranteed 1 season in Super Rugby, which is a shame...teams like the Rebels, the Force (who were also GIVEN Super Rugby status) took years to come right (still battling!)... SA Rugby is at fault here, as the Kings should have been allowed entry into Currie Cup Premier division. The truth for Lions fans is, the Lions have been poor for a long time now and to blame the Kings is childish. No get of this bandwagon of 'hate' and try support these okes...they're just people who want first class rugby! Enough already!

      Priesterb - 2012-08-16 17:52

      ian. As far as I can remember the original franchises (10) were selected based on their performances and standings in their respective countries. Is it the other unions fault if the EP did not qualify? Was this not enough motivation for them to WORK and EARN a place in the series. No Ian, they did not improve their performance in the local comps, they were piss poor and they ARE still piss poor. Give, give, give.... Blou Bul Groete!

      louis.langenhoven - 2012-08-16 18:55

      a right ANC mentality you are showing there Ian- we must have a chance, we must have a position, we do have potential (never mind how slim), give us everything, please stand back everyone else (no matter how deserving you might be)...thats the way to build a ...f-up

      heinrich.vanjaarsveld.52 - 2012-08-16 21:56

      Ian tell me first thing when last did the kings play currie cup, won the vodacom cup, first division currie cup. When last did there university win the cup there top school beat the greater s.a schools, I don't recall that happening in the last 10 15 20 years time when last was there stadium full except for the springbok games. Show me 1 statistic that can prove your point noboby wants to play in the province that's run by the anc or cheeky how can u play for a team that cannot win the voda or 1st division cup, and for nameing players that was born there why didn't u offer them contracs o I forgot cheeky pockets all there money or they left the province when they were young or not even went to school there they wernt trained or givinh skills there they went out and got there traids in other provinces so please shut ur pie hole if u CONNOT provide any real positive proof why they deserve status as super team

      graeme.sauls - 2012-08-16 21:58

      Excellent comment Ian but one that nobody on this forum will appreciate. They are all blinded by their dislike of certain individuals that they don't see the bigger picture of what this will do to rugby in the region.

  • hc12345 - 2012-08-16 17:24

    So what have you achieved besides upsetting everyone else???

  • jaco.vanniekerk.14 - 2012-08-16 17:24

    \Rugby decision\ yeah right... Political more like it. We replaced one punching bag for a bigger one. Sorry to say but nobody wins here, and the biggest losers are the SA rugby public. We struggle to make five teams competitive, and you are pushing for six...

  • JacoGriesel - 2012-08-16 17:27

    Sure he won't be happy - he will only be happy when all 14 other franchises agree to hand him the S15 trophy without having to play a game. The old saying of "careful what you wish for, it might just come true" comes to mind. Cheeky knows they'll be humiliated (even in the relegation game at the end of the season), hence the premature blame game. Poor sod!

  • ryno.peters.7 - 2012-08-16 17:43

    Lets look at it in a positive way,I think that rugby in the EC and in Jozi will be much more competitive and also all other franchises,I mean,who would like to play relegation matches?Lions will definitely have to perform better in SR an this will spur them on.

  • louis.langenhoven - 2012-08-16 17:46

    “I think it is a ludicrous decision," Watson said after the decision was made at a SARU general council meeting in Cape Town. "It doesn't make sense in rugby, not in business, not in the church. “It doesn't make sense in any sector of society that you are sitting with a scenario that you are in Super Rugby for one year and expected to achieve. The problem dear stoopid Cheeky is that you and your team shouldn't be in Super rugby in the first place....THAT is why nothing makes sense to you

  • migueldefreitas23 - 2012-08-16 17:58

    Runner-up for Douche bag of the Week... This guy. Coz he has what he wants BUT still complains! If you're not good enough to stay there for more than one season then you don't deserve to be there. Douche bags of the Week... Hoskins and SARU! For making promises they cannot keep nor have the mandate to make in the first place. Such a sorry excuse for a solution

  • mj.hough.7 - 2012-08-16 18:00

    Just wondering, how does a team playing first devision Currie Cup, a team who did not even make the Vodacom Cup semifinals play in the Super 15? Surely a team (Lions) who won the premier devision Currie cup 2011 should have a fair chance at defending their place in the 2013 competition against the EP Kings. Its like taking a u16 school rugby team and putting them in the Varsity cup, it aint gonna work!

  • ruan.vanniekerk.754 - 2012-08-16 18:07

    Get over it. Crybabies. Carrying on like old farts. Hahahaha

  • corne.dunn - 2012-08-16 18:47

    While you're at it, why don't you just DEMAND that the EP Kings is guaranteed the Super Rugby trophy?? Ridiculous...

      louis.langenhoven - 2012-08-16 18:58

      don't worry I'm sure he's been harbouring that thought for AA trophy

  • ronald.haarhoff - 2012-08-16 20:11

    I will start by putting down a couple of names lets see who all of the current players come from the Eastern Cape and was bought to play in the other provinces. then in 2 or 3 days time, we look at what sort of team could have been playing in EC had there been BIG rugby here. Keegan Kanko Schalk Ndungane brothers Mvovo both Potgieters Kolisi Ross Skeate Steven Sykes Tim Whitehead and that is only after looking at the Sharks Website. Please feel free to add.

      ChrisinOz294 - 2012-08-17 01:59

      Firstly two errors: Schalk (Burger I presume?) - Born in PE yes, but schooled at Paarl Gym (father also played for WP) - unlikely to have ever played for EP. Ros Skeate - Born in Johannesburg and went to SACS in Cape Town as well as UCT Secondly pre-Super rugby the EP played in the Currie Cup. So compared to what was recognised as "big rugby" at the time, the Eastern Cape did have "big rugby". But still players went to other unions/countries: Os du Randt (FS), Mike Catt (Eng), Danie Gerber (WP), Gary Pagel (WP), Christiaan Scholtz (Tvl), Mark Andrews (Natal), Ollie le Roux (FS - went to uni in Bloem though), Hennie le Roux (Tvl), Nick Mallet (WP), and I'm sure there's more. Thirdly, the Free State lost players every year to other unions for a long time. But they remained competitive. So thinking that the Kings will retain their big names with "big rugby" in the province is not necessarily gauranteed.

      wayne.redman.7 - 2012-08-17 13:15

      There is no question in the top rugby players that have come from EP--bottom line there is no money there regardless of if they had been included in top rugby or no--the whole place is falling apart--its now a retirement area--so those players would have all been bought by the richer provinces anyway--just like what happens to the Free State players--its all about money--if you want loyalty get a dog

  • gwvickers - 2012-08-16 22:32

    Next he will demand his players in the Springbok side, ja right dream on, stop trying to be so bloody CHEEKY

  • ChrisinOz294 - 2012-08-17 01:02

    Hey Chucky, why stop there? Why not demand(!!) to be given the trophy for next year as well. That will make perfect sense in the ANC Church of Hand-me-outs, won't it.

  • lance.buitendag - 2012-08-17 08:22

    I didnt know Francois Hugaard has signed up for the kings?? De Wet Barry, Derrick Kuun, Jaco VDwesthuizen... not a bad bunch of players to augment a weak side. The way the Kings got in is dodgey to say the least but now that they are there, We should back them and wish them the best of luck, for the players, not take our dislike for CW and LW out on them. We all know what happens when politics gets involved in rugby (the puke hits the fan), but thankfully we have the other 4 teams to hold up the image of SA Rugby, To the Sharks, Cheetahs, Stormers and Bulls, your work load just got a helluva lot heavier. Please dont let us SA Rugby fanatics down. One yr in Super rugby definately isnt enough, but the Kings should've started building this up since 2005 by dominating other local rugby tourneys before taking the challenge. Baby steps first. i Hope Brad Mooar and his staff are not having a holiday this christmas, you guys have a lot of work to do. Never know which MP's going to petition that we back The Pumas for 2014 Super rugby, maybe we could drop the Cheetahs for them, Border bulldogs for the Stormers, why not bring in the Kavaliers for the bulls, and Griquas for the Sharks, while we at it? Good Luck Kings, You're going to need bucket loads of it.

  • tracy.g.basson - 2012-08-17 15:44

    Cheeky is never ever satisfied. What a farce south african rugby is turning into. The southern spears should have faced a relegation playoffs agains the Lions to gain their place, rather than just be handed it on a silver platter.

  • viva.lebok - 2012-08-17 20:35

    The Kings do not deserve even one year. They should play against the Lions now and if they win participate next year. However, they would most likely lose by 50. In any case its good for the Bulls, Stormers and Sharks next year, they will be able to rest their top players and still get 5 points.

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