Bulls upset with Meyer situation

2012-01-25 14:57

Johannesburg - The Blue Bulls are not happy to release director of rugby Heyneke Meyer from his four-year contract to go and coach the Springboks.

Meyer is set to be offered the job of South Africa coach, the Bulls said on Wednesday.

"It is the board's position that it would not be in the Blue Bulls' interest to release Meyer after many resources and commitments have been made to enable him to fulfil his mandate," the Bulls said in a statement.

The South African Rugby Union (SARU) said discussions had been held with Meyer but that no decision has yet been made.

"The Executive Council (EXCO) of SARU will be provided with a report back on those discussions at their meeting in Cape Town on Thursday. The EXCO is constitutionally responsible for the appointment of the Springbok coach. Their recommendation has to be ratified by a special general meeting of SARU," SARU said in the statement.

The new Springbok coach, succeeding Peter de Villiers, will be announced on Friday after the special general meeting.

The 44-year-old Meyer coached the Leicester Tigers in 2008 before returning to the Bulls in a director of rugby type position. He previously coached the Bulls to four Currie Cup titles and their maiden Super 14 crown between 2002 and 2007.


  • Lionel - 2012-01-25 15:00

    This is the crap that happens in SA,Bulls get your priorities right,Boks come first!!!!!

      Ulrich - 2012-01-25 15:04

      I'm a WP/Stormers supporter but I seem to remember our union initially refusing to let Nienaber join the Boks so let's understand that it is also a business. That is unfortunately the nature of the modern game. and is the reason players and coaches earn they salaries they

      Lionel - 2012-01-25 15:09

      I hear and understand what you say but If I can recall correctly,it was on short notice and was not a long term contract but yes business is business!!!!!!! All that I want and sure you as well is the best for the Boks!!!!!!!!

      goyougoodthing - 2012-01-25 15:14

      To be quite honest the SuperRugby teams play better rugby than the Boks, the Wallabies and on occasion even the All Blacks. Franchise rugby is better, the Boks are a bit of a political dead loss, dump it and move on.

      Bames - 2012-01-25 15:19

      When it suits you, hey Lionel. The Bulls have a valid point, they DO have an agreement, do you know what that is?

      Lionel - 2012-01-25 15:24

      Nic,whats the bet Meyer will be appointed coach on Friday,agreement or no agreement!!!!!!!!!!! What do mean when it suits me???Meyer at the moment is the best SA person for the job,if it was not him I would go for an overseas coach!!!!!!

      Riaan - 2012-01-25 15:34

      The Bulls are in a rebuilding-faze and have spent many million to reorganize and find the right people to keep them a winning brand, after 2011s player exodus... I can tell you that they knew since August 2011 that Heyneke was on Saru's shopping list, but could not get clarification on whether Heyneke would be made an offer! They are rightly upset with Saru as it will be very difficult to find a replacement Director of rugby so close to Super Rugby 2012s kick off... They would have preferred to advanced notice to plan and make adjustments to their 2012 season. They are not the sort of union that would stand in anybody’s way to further their career, but I think Saru might have a fight on their hands!!!! As this could sink their 2012 Super Rugby campaign before the season started.

      goyougoodthing - 2012-01-25 15:39

      Rian I think everyone at SARU expected Gert Smal to take up the job but a spanner well and truly got into the works.

      nhamo.dzenyika - 2012-01-25 17:01

      not in soccer lionel. the psl will hang on to their players just to make SAFA look bad in the eyes of the public. no wonder, no soccer club in SA has done well on the continent despite claims that it is the best league on the continent

      Jason - 2012-01-25 17:02

      Bulls want more compensation thats all...

      Thomas - 2012-01-25 20:41

      Why would they be upset?? Didn't they keep Bakkies from moving on when there was no clause he could use to get out!! Meyer has a clause that allowes him to move on if a better job comes along!!! This is where NZ have one up on us, their provinces work with the National team!!!

      Burtfred - 2012-01-26 07:17

      Arrogant Bulls. If Meyer is offered the Bok Coach position, it would be a major promotion for him. Don't try to block his progress, shake his hand and wish him well.

      Derrick - 2012-01-26 08:33

      I have not had sight of the agreement concluded between Meyer and the Blue Bulls for his appointment as Director of Rugby but I know for sure he would have had a release clause (releasing him from his provincial contract in the event he is appointed Bok coach) in the agreement appointing him as head coach of the Bulls all those years back. Be that as it may I just hope common sense prevails and that the Bulls do what is best for Springbok rugby.

  • Matthew Patrick - 2012-01-25 15:11

    Franchise / Club over the national team is a problem in professional sport everywhere!

      Robert - 2012-01-25 15:19

      The Boks should come before any provincial arrangement. That's why NZ rugby is successful. It's ABs first, then everything else. Even their Super15 teams are arranged with players swopping everywhere, to give the ABs a stronger team. SA needs to catch a wake up and the so-called 'presidents council' needs to stop being such a bunch of Groot Sakemanne. I hate the way those a-holes mess up our game.

      goyougoodthing - 2012-01-25 15:35

      Robert, NZRU is also almost bankrupt due to their policy. They may hold a trophy finally, but the coffers are bare and the public is turning to league as it's a more exciting spectator game where the referee isn't such a god. Best thing to do would be drop the Boks completely and back your franchise to play a Super Rugby comp and then a North/SouthSuper League from August through November. Big crowds, big bucks big fun.

      Nico - 2012-01-25 15:46

      Also, the players are contracted and paid by NZRU, that is why they have the final say. Here, even when a players pays for the boks, he is still paid by the union, that is why there is so many issues surrounding the boks.

      Mickey - 2012-01-25 20:09

      @goyyougoodthing. You have no idea what you are talking about. League is still the "second" cousin to Union as a spectator sport as well as from a players view point in New Zealand. The big differance is the pride of the All Black. As it was years ago for many school boys, the dream to be a Springbok, it continues to be the goal of all rugby playing children in New Zealand. The pride of the Springbok, has been tarnished and ridiculled bu administrators and is no longer a dream of youngsters. League has tried on numerous occasions to stage games to competter against union and have always come off second best. A recent pole rated Union at 83% and league at a lowley 17% in New Zealand. So do not make statements you can not back up.

      goyougoodthing - 2012-01-25 20:43

      Interesting Mickey when I was observing the RWC and even at that time talking to the locals I was hearing how league is becoming more popular. Add to that the pathetic crowds for Super Rugby in NZ and you could say it's dying slowly as league makes headway. There is always pride in the All Black Jersey, I wanted to be an AB when I was growing up just as much as any kiwi, but face facts man, from the people in the street, the youth. They watch league, I asked them.

      Thomas - 2012-01-25 20:46

      Robert!1 We share the same views, it was the Watsons that screwed Meyer and a chance to win back to back WCs! Rugby men without a rugby agenda!!!!!!!1

  • goyougoodthing - 2012-01-25 15:12

    You would have thought the twin geniuses of Roux and Hoskins could have worked this issue out last year already, when the All Blacks announced their new coach. But no, wait until the end of January to do this, a week before SuperSeason.

      Lionel - 2012-01-25 15:17

      The man in charge of the Boks should already have held meetings with the respective S15 franchises to iron out things for 2012 but No,they wait till the last minute as you say!!!!!!!!!!!

      goyougoodthing - 2012-01-25 15:24

      Exactly. Now he is going to go to the franchises and say 'um hi chaps, you know that guy you pay a massive salary to? Well um, rest him if you don't mind, I need him to add some respectability to my politically chosen team of Proteas who will get smashed in the 4Nations. Thanks'.

      Robert - 2012-01-25 15:25

      @ go ... - The SARU Groot Sakemanne were all on leave. Don't dare disturb the 'presidents council' or you'll face the wrath of the self appointed gods

      goyougoodthing - 2012-01-25 15:31

      @Robert, I saw Oregan on Sunday, at Gateway, looking as relaxed as ever, I never get a sense of urgency with him, on anything.

  • ARTOPHOTO - 2012-01-25 15:28

    I'm sorry to hear about your problem :-(

  • Nico - 2012-01-25 15:29

    It is easy, SARU should buy Heineke out of his contract if they want him, that is how it works in the professional area, in fact, they should PAY the unions for the use of their springboks as well. Maybe if they start paying a bit they would stop the political interference! hehehehe, old snorre must surely hope that the bulls does not release him, he will stay the coach by default, hahahaha and i agree that super15 / CC is much better than springbok rugby!

  • Paul - 2012-01-25 15:29

    That's ok Bulls. The rest of us aren't exactly thrilled by the idea of a Bulls coach for the Bokke either ;-) 10 man rugby here we come... No, jokes aside, I think Meyer is a great coach.

  • Errol - 2012-01-25 15:31

    It will all be ok in the morning.......

  • Johnny - 2012-01-25 15:40

    Bryce Lawrence also applied for the job as Springbok Coach, as he said he can make any team a winner... against the Springboks, that is.

  • Henk - 2012-01-25 15:42

    hel, maar die blou bulle is 'n klomp selfgesentreerde geldgierige suurgatte!! tipies suid afrika het hulle gou by sa sokker geleer, hou die bestes weg van die nasionale span!

  • Jock - 2012-01-25 16:40

    The Bulls have the core of their 2011 coaching team in place Ludeke, Rossouw, etc - Meyer can't be that essential to their plans - they can surely move on with Ludeke until a new Director is appointed. Ludeke was punted as a potential Bok coach so they should be in good hands.

  • Bertus - 2012-01-25 16:52

    selfgesentreerde super 15 belange bo internasionale ai

  • Grant - 2012-01-25 17:12

    my word.....amateur hour.....

  • Jannie - 2012-01-25 17:44

    Did Hoskins and co not realised in mid 2011 that a new coach is due in 2012? Why wait until the very last minute and then "bully" Meyer from the Bulls? Or, is this SARU's manage style? Maybe it was a question of waiting to evaluate de Villier's performance in the RWC and we all know what that amounted to...! So Meyer was a second choice again... All in all poor management (again) by SARU!

      Bootman - 2012-01-25 19:11

      Glad you cleared everything up for me Jannie. I was confused as to what was going on. Wow.......I can see clearly now.

      wilma.botts - 2012-01-26 00:08

      Maybe the Bulls are protecting Meyer from getting the same treatment that Jake White received in his build up to to a winning world cup team then getting booted out....while snore brings back a loosing side and it goes unnoticed....people wake up and smell the coffee sport is a political ball not a sport anymore.....

  • Lyndon Brandt - 2012-01-25 19:48

    This is the problem with sport (esp soccer and rugby) in SA, provinces/clubs have power over national duty. FFS, its NATIONAL DUTY, Bulls!

  • Jason - 2012-01-25 20:03

    Dear Rugby Gods Please please do not allow Mr Meyer the opportunity of joining the BOK squad in any capacity. We really appreciate Mr Meyer but would love to see a different brand of rugby that we may actually win with. Thanking you in Advance

  • Roger - 2012-01-25 20:22

    If Heyneke goes maybe Rassie has been approached to take his place. Rassie sold our best players to the Bulls recently, so it makes sense that he goes to a great building union.

  • bloubul.jonck - 2012-01-25 20:48

    My blood is green go bokke go. Die enigste hoop vir die bulle is om ludike weg te jaag kry eerder vir div hy is baie beter

  • Jaco - 2012-01-26 06:58

    HM will build a winning team in two years and then get fired so that coetzee can take over and win a worldcup. that is the bigger picture. Saru is clever

      Jason - 2012-01-26 09:50

      HM couldnt build his way out of a lego box.

  • Jannie - 2012-01-26 08:31

    get over yourselves it think he has payed his dues to the Bulls.

  • Geoff - 2012-01-26 09:26

    Why did they allow him to apply for the job? Why did they not put it in their contract that he was allowed to apply for any other job whilst under contract to the Bulls. Shame I think the Bulls know that their supporters will desert if they don't win and Meyer is the best chance they have!!!

      Jason - 2012-01-26 09:49

      They already havent won. They never won the currie cup nor the super 15. Their up and under brand of forwards rugby is predictable and no longer has traction.

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