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Top 10 Bok highs under Div

2010-11-25 11:36

Compiled by Dominic Valentine

Cape Town - Presenting a gallery of the top 10 greatest moments under Peter de Villiers since his reign began as coach of the Springboks in 2008.

GALLERY: Top 10 Bok Lows under Div

Peter de Villiers has taken the Springboks to Tri-Nations and British and Irish Lions glory, and along the way he has achieved many records and accolades which are definitely worth remembering.

Is he the man to take the Springboks to the next World Cup? Although the embattled Springbok coach is currently under a lot of pressure, he has given Springbok supporters great joy in the past. Who knows, perhaps he can still add a World Cup trophy to his trophy cabinet also...

Number 10)
7 June 2008 - Wales 17-43 Springboks (Bloemfontein Park)
Peter de Villiers' first Test in charge was a very promising start as his new-look team crushed Wales in Bloemfontein. He showed faith in many players who had been successful during Jake White's reign and gave them reassurance that he had their well-being at heart, bringing back players like Victor Matfield and John Smit from overseas. (Gallo Images)




Number 9)
28 August 2010 - Springboks 44-31 Wallabies (Loftus Versfeld)
In a display of enterprising rugby the Springboks managed to avoid a Tri-Nations whitewash and ensured that Victor Matfield would complete his 100th Test in a triumphant manner. (Gallo Images)




Number 8)

6 November 2010 - Ireland 21-23 Springboks (Lansdowne Rd)
Peter de Villiers managed to banish the ghost of not having beaten the Irish in Ireland for 10 years, and do something that Jake White was never able to achieve: victory over Ireland in Ireland, he also made sure that the Springboks christened the new Aviva Stadium with an historic victory over the Irish, thus adding to the storied legend of the Springboks. (Gallo Images)




Number 7)
22 November 2008 - England 6-42 Springboks (Twickenham)
Peter de Villiers' new-look team crushes the English in mind, body and spirit, thus maintaining the stranglehold and the period of dominance that began in the Jake White era. (Gallo Images)




Number 6)
12 September 2009 - All Blacks 29-32 Springboks (Waikato)
Peter de Villiers completed a hattrick of wins over New Zealand and completing a period of dominance over them, thus coaching only the second ever Springbok team after Nick Mallet's legendary Boks of '98 to whitewash New Zealand in the Tri Nations. (Gallo Images)




Number 5)
30 August 2008 - Springboks 53-8 Wallabies (Coca Cola Park)
Peter de Villiers' Boks deliver a masterclass over the Wallabies, dominating them in every facet of the game and breaking the scoring record for a Springbok team over the Wallabies at Coca Cola Park and ensuring that legendary fullback Percy Montgomery's last Test as a Springbok would go down in the annals of Bok history. (Gallo Images)





Number 4)
12 July 2008 - All Blacks 28-32 Springboks (Carisbrook Stadium)
Peter de Villiers' Springboks' last-gasp try achieved their first victory at Carisbrook since the first Test between rugby’s greatest rivals was played in Dunedin in 1921. South Africa also broke a run of 30 consecutive Test victories in Internationals at home by the All Blacks. Peter de Villiers was thus able to achieve something else that Jake White was never able to: victory over the All Blacks in New Zealand. (Gallo Images)




Number 3)

20 June 2009 - Springboks 26-21 British and Irish Lions (Durban)
The Springboks managed to hang on to a victory after a late surge from the British and Irish Lions, but dominated most of the game destroying the much vaunted Lions scrum and lineout and claiming an important win in the first game of the series. (Gallo Images)



Number 2)
1 August 2009 - Springboks 31-19 All Blacks (Durban)
Peter de Villiers' side completes the most dominant and commanding display against the All Blacks in recent history, humbling them with a defeat that South Africans were more familiar with being on the receiving end of in recent years, as records fell left, right and centre. (Gallo Images)



And the number 1 greatest moment under Div's leadership...

27 June 2009 - Springboks 28-25 British and Irish Lions
The Springboks squeaked home against the Lions, thus ensuring that the final Test in the series would be a mere dead rubber affair, as the Springboks put to bed the ghost of their series loss against the Lions in 1997, and restored the pride of the Springboks, ensuring that the 2009 Boks would be a Springbok team of legend in the years to come. (Gallo Images)




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Comments
  • Met Uysh! - 2010-11-25 12:19

    Pity most of the good is in 2009....we just don't seem to adjust to the new laws interpretations...

  • leroy.prima - 2010-11-25 12:34

    Well written Dominic. Just shows that as long as someone is winning he is acceptable but as soon as he is in a dip he needs to be crucified.

      sharkbait - 2010-11-25 13:08

      that pretty much goes for any coach in any sport in any country

      GraemeBB - 2010-11-25 18:32

      And his dip started on last year's end of year tour, so I feel justified that he is asked the tough questions - I think his answers are what concerns me most. Yet again, watch his interview after the loss to Scotland. Oh, and remember Jake White? Coaching is a hot seat - end of story.

  • eentyd - 2010-11-25 12:37

    Not bad yes, but that was when he still had the World Champions fit and still playing a brand of rugby that worked. The Players (SOME) have changed and the game has changed, however PDV has not grown with the game.

      GraemeBB - 2010-11-25 18:33

      Agreed

  • Hayley - 2010-11-25 12:41

    What baffles me highly in this article is the drawing of comparisons between PDV and Jake White all the time! Yes, there are achievements that PDV has done that Jake White never achieved, but Jake White has achieved a World Cup trophy, the ultimate rugby prize. I hesitate to say that if PDV stays on as coach and we play the same brand of rugby next year, we will be the laughing stock of the world cup. No one takes away any recognition ever from achievements attained and whatever happens in the future with PDV, these attributes will always remain to his namesake. I do however believe that the style of rugby then was our dominating factor, but since then the gane has evolved and we have been left far behind in the race. SA is a proud rugby nation and therefore the bar will always be set higher than in other countries. So rather than trying to stake claim for PDV by old achievements, rather look to the future and admit that all is far from well in SA rugby and this needs to be addressed urgently before next year. We have the quality players to achieve stature again, but some really fresh training and concepts need to be brought in and urgently.

      sannahan - 2010-11-25 12:55

      Agreed. However, nothing has happened on this tour to prove that after having been "thoroughly" briefed by the SARU excom we are busy applying a more dynamic formula which will bear good fruit, comes the time. Achievements in 2008 and 2009 were commendable, but any business will be in trouble if they want to boast about top profits made in the past to cover imminent bankruptcy while also being unable/unwilling to apply different principles to turn the ship around.

      bluejay - 2010-11-25 21:10

      no hayley,eddie jones won the world cup for us....and the senior players!jake white is a arrogant plonker that's only good enough to coach koshuis rugby.

      kturpin - 2010-11-26 09:06

      Yar, if White is such a great coach, why has his coaching career not taken off, he should have been invited to be on the bench with at least a minow team Italy. Jake White is a cr@p coach, i hated the type of rugby we played under his regime.

  • Charl Norman - 2010-11-25 12:51

    Problem is he inherited a great team and solid game plan. It was easy at times to get results. But now, after 3 years, the 07' RWC team and game plan is starting to unravel (or has already). Now its his time to pick the right players and come up with his own game plan..... which he has failed at miserably.

      henk v - 2010-11-25 13:20

      the best results were in 2009, two years after he "inherited" a great team. maybe you must look at the performance of the players on the field during these successes and compare it with the tea parties the players are attending to this year. div's coaching abilities has got nothing to do with the slapgat attitude of players such as matfield and kie who bearly commit themself to breakpoints to contest for the ball.

      jetprovost - 2010-11-25 14:18

      It takes 4 years to build a team and 4 years to destroy it. PDV inherited an awesome squad of players that were well disciplined over 4 years with the ultimate trophy. England showed in the last world cup that the legacy of Clive Woodward laid an awesome platform that almost carried them through 2007 World Cup. Problem is we have unraveled the careful and strategic planning that went into the last world cup, have not grown as a team and now don't have the ideas and the shaping of a world class team. Its proven you cannot create that overnight. Its years of planning.

      Johnny - 2010-11-25 14:48

      PDV is a palooooooka coach... ......end of story.....

      GraemeBB - 2010-11-25 18:36

      Henk V - did you notice Matfield's nomination?? try looking at players that arent performing, and wonder why new players have not been blooded - or is this Matfield's job too??

      sannahan - 2010-11-26 05:55

      If players wereto be 'slapgat', they should be dropped. However, how sure are we that the players plonk because of a 'slapgat' attitude? If the coaching staff cannot address the situation, they have to step down. A coach cannot hide behind the team or individuals.

  • kalispj - 2010-11-25 12:55

    Just another article to blind us from reality and keep PdV in his post for the WC and please ABSA, BEE grabbers and the ANC- sigh!!!

      henk v - 2010-11-25 13:21

      wake up kalispj, you sound like the anc comrades crying apartheid when something went against them.

      Johnny - 2010-11-25 15:01

      If PDV was "white" he would have been fired long ago... ...Luckily he is "black".... ....AA black... ....Nick Malllet was fired for querring ticket prices..!!

      StaalBurgher - 2010-11-25 15:16

      So Henk... you saying that BEE is not because of the ANC? Are you saying that Divvy was not selected because he is non-white? Stop your denial please. You are only hurting yourself and your children's future because that mindset is what is corroding the whole of South Africa.

  • Raymond - 2010-11-25 13:00

    Sheesh i thought Sport24 was taking the piss - i expected a blank page. :) 2009 PDV survived on White's coatails and the experiences White gave to the team. In 2010 this no longer worked as PDV was/is unable to adapt to the new laws. However, IMHO, the way to win a world cup has never been won by the way NZ/Sharks are currently playing rugby. If PDV or whoever might takeover can properly condition/rest our boys then i do believe that our current playing style with a fully fit and hungry team could win the cup again. The World Cup, remember, is not about glamorous rugby, it's about getting a job done and our guys a primed for that type of play especially in NZ's weather conditions!

      Durasmart - 2010-11-25 14:12

      What has happened was that from the 2007 WC up to the end of the Tri-Nations in 2009 the senior Boks were running the show. They have no respect for him as a coach and that is one of the most important ingredients of a successful team. Unquestionable respect and belief in the coach. And the new guys take their lead from the seniors showing no respect or belief either.

      Highlander - 2010-11-25 14:23

      Raymond, if that were the case, then how did the Boks manage to get humped last weekend against an average Scottish team. The conditions they played in are very similar to NZ in winter.

  • sannahan - 2010-11-25 13:03

    This is fine, Dominic, but why don't you follow up this article with an interview with PdV in which he tells the public 1. his coaching philosophy 2. where and how things went wrong for him 3.what he has in mind to solve them 4.which structures he has put/will put in place to bring a more relevant playing style about I am looking forwardto that

  • ChumScrubber - 2010-11-25 13:04

    Good article - puts everything back in perspective. I think the reason the comparisons to White are given, is that most criticism is sort of along the lines of "but when White was coach", and "bring back White". I hope PdV starts having success again soon, bring on England, get our minds positive again. He does seem a bit doff sometimes though?

      Kelvin - 2010-11-25 13:59

      A bit doff ? thats the biggest compliment he has ever had.

      Johnny - 2010-11-25 15:04

      How can se have a dof coach..???? ...try and win the world cup with a dof coach..?? .....hehehehehe..!!!

      GraemeBB - 2010-11-25 18:41

      White shouldnt come back iether. I like Alister from province - sorry, but I do.

  • Marieke - 2010-11-25 13:05

    He had some good results, I will grant him that. I just think that most of them were in 2008/2009, which means that the Boks were still in great shape from the Jake White era. That experience and excellence seems to be disappearing now. I think a lot of players who are playing badly at the moment e.g. Habana, just need the right coaching and leadership. Hopefully Snorre will pull the team together in time for the World Cup.

      Marieke - 2010-11-25 13:46

      I forgot to add, how come in the Super14, we had only SA teams in the final. But when the Boks are playing Tri Nations or Year end Tours, it goes downhill?

      mullerjj - 2010-11-25 13:55

      Jake had a horrible year before the 2007 WC, go back to 2006 results and see the 5 in a row by Jake. Jakes record would have been much worse than it ended if you take his last wins at the WC away, all against minnows. No AB's , no Wallabies, no France, just a easy ride to the title.

      StaalBurgher - 2010-11-25 15:18

      Jake White did not have the long littany of idiotic team/squad/position/substition etc decisions against him. All teams lose at times, but that is not what has been happening lately. It is getting really old to compare the games White lost (while rebuilding a team from nothing and still getting structure into place) to Divvy that has everything given to him and only had to continue.

      Shayne - 2010-11-26 07:18

      @mullerjj When are u noobs going to get over this 'easy wins in rwc" Do u really believe that rubbish?? Our pool was the hardest in the tournament. It was the only pool that had 2/4 top teams in the world and was often reffered to as the pool of death. By beating engalnd 36-0 we earned the right to face fiji. England then beat australia and france beat NZ. We then beat England again in the final. In order to win the RWC u need to win where it matters. And we were the only team that won 7 games in a row and that makes us champs. NZ and Aus had absolutely no competition in their pool matches. Its their problem they lost..

  • sharkbait - 2010-11-25 13:09

    Apparently some of the Chilean miners are coming to help! PdV says they are the only ones who can help him get out of such a deep hole before xmas.

  • Melissa - 2010-11-25 13:15

    Um....it is the Top 10 because there weren't more than 10 right?

  • player 24 - 2010-11-25 13:24

    Now how about a list of the top 100 worst moments under PdV...

  • Shayne - 2010-11-25 14:00

    4 of these top ten are from 2008. 4 are from 2009 and two from 2010. What is going to happen in 2011? And the team was very much still under the "Jake white" effect at the start of PDV coaching career. You cannot deny that. And to do so would be ignorant. Yes J White DID also loose a few matches on the way but when he took over we were ranked 6th in the world. 4 years later we were on top and RWC champions. J White had a plan and stuck to it.. And he was always explaining that to us, the supporters. PDV took over a no 1 ranked team and now we second, miles behind the all blacks. And barely ahead of australia and england. And there is a good chance, depending on the weekends results, that we might slip to no 5. There is no comparison...!!!!

      StaalBurgher - 2010-11-25 15:20

      Exactly. White's losses, while upsetting, were not so unexpected in the context of the time. Divvy has done numerous thing to break what was working.

      Shayne - 2010-11-26 07:19

      Yup=)) And to add more to this, both of the 2 highs from 2010 dont deserve to be here. One is the only match we won in the tri nations and the other was the weak win over scorland..

  • dushaas - 2010-11-25 14:03

    It took him 2 years to screw up a WC winning side. Can you imagine where we are going to be two years from now if he stays on? We woudn't be able to beat Lithuania

  • devlin.cathey - 2010-11-25 14:31

    These stats are not very comforting... I think the Bok players should be given a LOT of credit for these highs, and as for all the highs in 2008, well, still a lot of influence from the Mr. White era methinks. He is not good enough, regardless of any other argument, the fact that his coaching decisions are shocking at crucial times should be reason enough to look elsewhere for the World Cup.

  • Claude - 2010-11-25 14:35

    It must be the 14th of February - I hope that the powers that be come to their senses and de Villiers does not last that long.

  • StaalBurgher - 2010-11-25 15:13

    And most of those victories came from players who he refused to start with or select at all until injuries forced him too. Not only that the rule application created a situation where the Boks could simply copy what White and the Bulls had done, no innovation or new ideas needed. Now that he needs new ideas and needs to rebalance the team he is out to sea. If white had stayed on we would have had the same results.

      StaalBurgher - 2010-11-25 15:21

      Meaning, same success but less of these idiotic failures.

  • George Benecke - 2010-11-25 19:32

    We won the World Cup 2007.... His achievements were in 2008-9???? Basically due to the squad he inherited. Pride of the players pushed them to these achievments. But slowly he grinded away and messed up the whole squad. World Cup Winners who are now the laughing stock. Nobody fears us anymore. Let's be honest. Most of the winning games was also due to individual brilliance. People like Heinrich Brussow, Fourie Du Preez, Morne Steyn etc. single handedly won some games for us. And lets face it. Since Fourie got injured there was no real game reader left on the field. And if he was on the pitch he read the game and called the shots, not PDivvy. Old Snorre, just sat back and made like he planned it all. Let him go.... For all our sakes

  • bluejay - 2010-11-25 21:15

    interesting to note that matfield and and other so-called senior players prefers to work under pdv than under that arrogant piece of trash jake white!if it wasn't for eddie jones than we would never have won that world cup!thanks eddie.

  • Pedro - 2010-11-25 21:46

    I never thought I would say this because I often told doubters that he should be given a chance, but it seems he was reaping the rewards of what White had put in place. Now that he has to think out a new strategy he has been found wanting.

  • sannahan - 2010-11-26 06:04

    Comparisons with White are irrelevant at present. The game has changed. White succeeded in what he had promised and that was to bring the World Cup to SA. I don't call for White, but for movement in the right direction. PdV is not prepared to tell us 1 where he is going 2 what he wants to do to get there and 3 how he will manage it. If he does and we can see that he speaks and delivers sense, I'll buy in, but time is running out.

  • visser.gja - 2010-11-26 07:28

    2008 was not Divs boks but Jake White's boks does not count so not that good at ALL!!!

      kturpin - 2010-11-26 09:12

      umm.. actually they were South Africa's boks. So what, was PDV supposed to sack all the players, all of which who are senior players in their respective unions. Why do people give Jake White credit for all the hard work provincial rugby does. Our teams have been top of the tree in the world for many years now. Jake White pah, he's a useless coach.

  • Kobus - 2010-11-26 10:29

    Go Bokke, not the end of the world if you have one bad season!!! If we can beat England it will be a big boost for the world cup!!! Hou moed Victor en die manne, speel 15 man rugby en laat Morne 80 min rugby speel!!!!

  • James - 2010-11-27 12:34

    Yes, this is what happens when you take over a great well-coached team.. It's just like buying a successful business or franchise..The fruits of Mismangement are only evident after a year or two....

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