Spies rested for Scotland Test

2010-11-16 14:01

Edinburgh - Coach Peter de Villiers on Tuesday made three changes to the Springbok starting XV and one positional switch for Saturday’s Test against Scotland at Murrayfield in Edinburgh.

Zane Kirchner, Francois Hougaard and Ryan Kankowski were all promoted to the starting line up while Gio Aplon moves from fullback to wing from the team that defeated Wales 29-25 in Cardiff on Saturday.

In addition hooker Adriaan Strauss and wing Lwazi Mvovo are involved in a match-day 22 for the first time on tour as they were drafted onto the bench.

Bjorn Basson’s injury and subsequent suspension made him unavailable for the right wing position and his place is taken by Gio Aplon, who moves from fullback. Aplon’s No 15 jersey is taken by Zane Kirchner who moves up from the bench.

Francois Hougaard is given the starting position at scrumhalf after his cameo performance from the bench on Saturday, while Ryan Kankowski comes straight into the starting XV at eighthman.

“We’ve got a talented squad and a long tour like this gives us an opportunity to try out a few options,” said Peter de Villiers.

“Francois Hougaard played well for us in the Tri-Nations and did well when he came on on Saturday and brings a different style.

“Ryan is one of two talented eighthmen in the squad and we wanted to give him an opportunity to show us what he can do.”

The changes on the bench are caused by the departures of Basson and Chiliboy Ralepelle, who returned a positive test for a banned stimulant following the Test against Ireland on November 6.

Adriaan Strauss comes onto the bench as the replacement hooker and the uncapped Lwazi Mvovo takes the place of Kirchner as a backline replacement.

De Villiers added that the squad had now put the shock of the positive results behind them.

“There is a process in place in these cases and that is now being followed. As a squad we have moved on and are focusing only on Scotland.”




South Africa:
15. Zane Kirchner, 14. Gio Aplon, 13. Francois Steyn, 12. Jean de Villiers, 11. Bryan Habana, 10. Morne Steyn, 9. Francois Hougaard, 8. Ryan Kankowski, 7. Juan Smith, 6. Deon Stegmann, 5. Victor Matfield, 4. Bakkies Botha, 3. Jannie du Plessis, 2. Bismarck du Plessis, 1. Beast Mtawarira

Replacements: 16. Adriaan Strauss, 17. CJ van der Linde, 18. Flip van der Merwe, 19. Willem Alberts, 20. Ruan Pienaar, 21. Patrick Lambie, 22. Lwazi Mvovo 


  • markwmilligan - 2010-11-16 14:09

    Willem Alberts should have been given the nod ahead of Kankowski. Kankowski is overrated.

      Azurite - 2010-11-16 14:28

      Well let's see if he can prove me and you wrong for once!

      Francois - 2010-11-16 15:27

      I agree

      GraemeBB - 2010-11-16 15:27

      I agree with you 100%. What does PDV see that we dont??

  • Shauno - 2010-11-16 14:12

    I think he has missed the opportunity to give Keegan Daniel a chance to get some game time. Stegmann has been no where and wasnt even in the initial squad - Really confusing

      Wayne - 2010-11-16 15:22


      GraemeBB - 2010-11-16 15:30

      But, if you can remember, Keegan was not in the initial training squad - untill there was alot of pressure as to his exclusion. He has never been in favour - why I dont know.

  • pierewiet - 2010-11-16 14:13

    Habana? WTF?

      Preshan - 2010-11-16 14:19

      Habana is going to mess up again.

      FerretGee - 2010-11-16 14:40

      Habana is there to try and get his recorrd breaking try, simple.

      chrismtb007 - 2010-11-16 15:01

      yes, Habana, so the Scotts can put some pints on the board. He is useless in defence...

      semloh - 2010-11-16 15:51

      well you got your wish, Habana is out injured. He needs the rest and time away from the game in anycase....

      Adriaan Kruger - 2010-11-16 16:30


  • Donovan - 2010-11-16 14:16

    What is stegman doing there??? Should have used this test to give Alberts, Mvovo, and Lambie starts and put Elton and Daniels on the bench!

      johannes.kemp - 2010-11-16 14:18


      Azurite - 2010-11-16 14:26

      Don't cheapen the Bok jersey.

      dixkzn - 2010-11-16 14:29

      Agreed 100%

      Pieter - 2010-11-16 14:46

      agreed all 3 will add a different perspective in the attacking abillities of the boks

      woody595 - 2010-11-16 14:58

      absolutely agree

      Makutu - 2010-11-16 15:08

      Yes! So, some of these guys basically were just touring Europe?

      mike - 2010-11-16 15:10

      And who's your fetcher in that team. Daniels is a wierd flanker actually, fast and elusive but not a fetcher. His a good attacking option and could be a good sub but lets be honest, he doesn't play to the ball neither does Alberts. Stegman is the only fetcher in the squad hence his inclusion. If you don't rate him try watching the rucks in slow motion replay and see how Steggies is the first one there almost all the time and he gets his hands on or near the ball just about everytime. Wanting to play Alberts at 6 is as retarded as continueing to pick Schalk at 6, 6 and 7 call for completly different play styles, its seems to only be SA who can't see the differance.

      chrismtb007 - 2010-11-16 15:18

      yes Mike, I agree, seems like someone must teach these guys some rugby. Steggies does a brilliant job!!

      Louw - 2010-11-16 15:49

      chrismtb007 Stegman het nie een bal in al twee games gefetch of afgevat nie.Hy is glad nie op Bokkevlak nie. Gaan kyk die games weer oor. Overated player !!!!!!

      Makutu - 2010-11-16 16:01

      Yes Mike! YES!

      chrismtb007 - 2010-11-16 16:38

      @ Louw, Ek dink jy moet maar weer die twee games beter gaan bekyk..... Glo my, hy het bloody goed gedoen!!

      Donovan - 2010-11-16 17:49

      Stegman gives away to many penalties! He is way overrated, if brussow was around then he would be in my starting team. Jake white did one thing effectively, say that there is no need for al all out fetcher (provided they are useless), hence Schalk and Smith combo was created. This is true if the fetcher that has been brought on tour is overrated and gifts the other team points! Having a combo of 6. Schalk 7. Smith and 8 man being alberts would be incredibly effective! then inject life into the game with speed such as daniels or more grunt with someone like flouw or deysel!

      Emile - 2010-11-17 11:39

      Agree with Brussouw, but he isn't there. Last time Brussouw played against the Bulls, Stegman actually over shaddowed him, but I do agree Brussouw is No1. Personally I think you must watch the game a bit more closer, you are missing all the action. Stegman was in the middle of every ruck and maul - where your fetcher actually belongs. Schalk is way too slow, that's why we always "SEE" him, Alberts is out and out a ball carrier, like your Deysels, Rorrouws, etc. Judge a player on his role in the team and not on who you see running around the field.

      dushaas - 2010-11-18 06:45

      Hey Mike, Bismarck has been doing most of the fetching in Stegmann's absence. We don't need a specialist fetcher with him in the team.

  • Jim - 2010-11-16 14:16

    Has he tested positive for drugs?

      Azurite - 2010-11-16 14:34

      Bla bla bla....

      Jay - 2010-11-16 15:37

      Those were my thoughts lmao

  • Makutu - 2010-11-16 14:16

    And he persists with Bryan Habana...! Lwazi Mvovo is such a good player guys. Seriously. He might have not scored as many tries as Bjorn Basson in the Currie Cup, but he is a better player in my opinion. Much better than big lips Habana. Anyways, I'm not the coach. Goodluck to the team!

      Adele - 2010-11-16 14:52

      I agree with you Makutu. Just dying to see what he can do at this level - cant wait.

      AGENT - 2010-11-16 15:02

      Agreed, Habana has had more than enough chance to do something positive. Watch Mvovo when / if he gets his chance , I'm willing to bet Habana's days are going to come to a swift end. He shouldve quite when he was on top (with some dignity and honour ).

      dushaas - 2010-11-18 06:49

      I thought habana was out with a hand injury?? WTF, or am I missing something here?

  • umdloti - 2010-11-16 14:18

    Should have left Gio at fullback and put Mvovo on the wing. Kirchner adds nothing.

      StaalBurgher - 2010-11-16 14:48

      Agreed. Aplon should've stayed at fullback.

      mike - 2010-11-16 15:13

      Aplon has been found wanting at fullback, his positional play was exposed in both test so far, especially by the Irish. Kirshner is a good choice however I agree that Mvovo should of been selected ahead of Habana. Dying to see Mvovo in the Green and Gold!

      Preshan - 2010-11-16 15:39

      I totally agree man, Kirchner was not even supose to be in the squad. There much better fullbacks in this country.

  • Preshan - 2010-11-16 14:18

    Keegan Should have been in the 22 man squad, not Stegmann

  • Shistirrer - 2010-11-16 14:21

    Spies is not getting rested, this is a clever tactic from PDivvy! If Spies does not play, he cannot get dope-tested :-)

      Azurite - 2010-11-16 14:34


      darren - 2010-11-16 14:35

      I was expecting a life threatening illness to come be the reason or has that already been used

      Dan - 2010-11-16 15:10

      Shistirrer & Darren, you guys have no idea how true your statements really are? @Azurite catch a wake-up and smell the coffee.

      Raymond - 2010-11-16 15:31

      Correct Darren, wouldn't be the first time. Azurite, sometimes you are going to be Azuwrong. Don't be so sure of yourself.

      GraemeBB - 2010-11-16 15:38

      I wouldnt point out Spies. I am starting to wonder about most of our players.

  • Pieter - 2010-11-16 14:22

    I cannot believe that they are this naive to select basically the same team......then you have mr. unreliable at fullback who cannot catch a ball when under pressure.........Zane.....come on we have better than that. Deon stegman hasn't done anything special in the two games that he has played in. Keegan daniels needs to get a run or is he on holiday???? The best forward in Willem Alberts on the bench again???? Let Juan have a rest as well. Habana needs an overhaul........maybe he shouldve been tested for performance decreasing drugs.... Why not Lambie have a start against Scotland? They arent as physical as the other northern hemisphere teams....... We are suppose to be develop players into the test arena......but we keep on with the old horses when its time now to bleed the youngsters!!!!

      woody595 - 2010-11-16 15:01

      Well Said Pieter.... but we want to blood the youngsters not bleed them (lol). I would like to see Mvovo get a good run!

      Shauno - 2010-11-16 15:08

      HA HA HA, performance decreasing drugs... thanks for the chuckle :)

      mike - 2010-11-16 15:19

      Wow Pieter, Zane is 100% better then Aplon under the high ball, his actually the best in sa at fielding the high ball. So please if you going to attack him get your facts straight, his weakness is on attack not defense. Agree that Lambie should of got a start, if not at flyhalf then at fullback, but maybe the guys feel its too early and they don't wanna ruin his career like Bosman etc by selecting him too early.

      Jay - 2010-11-16 15:41

      The bottom line is the PDivy sees an opportunity to get the grandslam, he is no longer thinking about trying and blooding new players, he just wants to win.

      Travis - 2010-11-16 15:57

      Mike is it possible that there are people out there who disagree with you??? Crazy as it may sound, it is true. Zane is a decent provincial player, but he is not international class. His defence is poor, and he folds like a deck of cards under pressure, as noted in the Ireland test. I would rather see Lambie at fullback rather than Zane. I do not rate Stegmann at all, and I would love to see Frans Louw there. Happy Kanko is getting a chance because I think that he stuck his hand up good and proper during the Currie Cup. Wish Lambie and Alberts were starting, but I think after B & I Lions 3rd test PdV is scared of making too many changes.

      Pieter - 2010-11-16 16:09

      Well Mike i have to disagree with you about Zane being the best under the high ball. Bjorn basson a winger is better than Zane under the high ball...He is one dimensional. A fullback should have vision across the field and not kick up and unders the whole time......his kicking game as well isnt that great......So yes i do differ from you and i think i got my facts spot on when it comes toi Zane...

  • unratedexter - 2010-11-16 14:25

    WTF - stegmann still in the starting 15 - he hasn't been that effective as a loosie in the last two games, alberts should've been the choice at 6 - besides a fetcher didn't help us one bit against Ireland and Wales - and Lambie must get a full game - look what he did to WP in the CC Final - we do have a kicker F.Steyn. Lastly Gio at 15 and 14 Mvovo.

  • Vincent - 2010-11-16 14:27

    lol. What is zane even still doing in this team? I wish he failed the drug test as well. lol. Give Morne a rest and start lambie and put elton on the bench. Stegmann has done nothing. Y not give alberts a start? And bring in Keegan Daniels.

  • Azurite - 2010-11-16 14:27

    I can't complain too much about the team, except that Habana this is your last chance! All the Stegmann bashers, get a grip. He is coming back from injury and not doing anything wrong.

      Pieter - 2010-11-16 14:41

      If he is coming back from injury then what is he doing in a Springbok team???? Stegman should be playing club rugby!!!

      woody595 - 2010-11-16 14:59

      that is the point - he is not up to his best and Daniels will do a better job!

      chrismtb007 - 2010-11-16 15:07

      Stegman is a hard worker, You ows that says he didnt do anything against Wales... Have a look again, he was brilliant as a fetcher, he stole the ball a few times from them, and he was playing in his possition, not like the other Flankers (thinking of Schalk) that thinks they play better in the bac k line and trying to kick the ball.... Stegmann is a good choice, and this position is the last of our worries. Habana's defence dropped since he became a stormer, his focus is on the record and not the game. Aplon has not performed at all in international games, and his defence is also useless some times.Id rather have Zane in Full back than on center, he had shown his worth in fullback in the super 14, and in that possition he is much better than Aplon. Hougard should have started all these games, Ruan is out dated and becoming slow.

      Azurite - 2010-11-16 15:10

      The point is he is going well and getting better every game, now you want to drop him? Makes a lot of sense! If supporters would be selectors we would have 15 different players starting every game!

      Shauno - 2010-11-16 15:12

      Azurite, I mostly agree with your comments but I must disagree here, Stegmann wasnt even picked in the initial squad and yet he is now preferred above in form players like Alberts and Keegan Daniel. Not a personal attack on Deon, I just dont understand the logic behind his selection, and while he isnt doing anything wrong, he is not doing anything special either. My opinion, have a good one

  • Adrian Diergaardt - 2010-11-16 14:28

    Watte f0k soek Zane Kirschner in die squad in eerste plek...ek kan nie een incident onthou waar hy 'n intelligente besluit geneem het i.t.v sy skop werk nie...hy so voorspelbaar op wat nou aanvaarbaar is van sy spel is dat hy n bietjie kan verdedig. Aplon op heelagter, Mvovo regtervleeuel, lambie kan replacement heelagter ook wees en aplon vleeuel toe skuif as een van die wings k@k

      pierewiet - 2010-11-17 10:01

      Probeer een taal op 'n slag skryf. En dan probeer jy om bietjie beter te spel voor jy weer skryf...

  • Gustav - 2010-11-16 14:29

    opportunity missed to bleed new talent and give out of form and old hands a rest. we'll need our best possible 15 on the park to face England and a weaker Scotland could have shown which of the youngsters have BMT to be included in the run-on 15 or bench for this big one. Bet you he'll play all the youngsters (and even bag carrier Jacobs) in the Barbarian game!

      Jay - 2010-11-16 15:45

      Until the Scots have a blinder and kick our asses!!! Then we would all be saying, why play youngsters when theres a chance to win the grandslam......blah blah blah......its so easy being a couch coach, Its fun to!!!!! ;)

  • nlvvdb - 2010-11-16 14:30

    What is Aplon and Habbana doing there???? Clearly the sharks showed in the currie cup final why there players should play for the Springboks!! Stegmann is not the best player but the best decision to start the match with. We want running rugby, not buldozers creeping over the field

  • randalllakay - 2010-11-16 14:31

    no matter which 15 start you lot will always find a reason to whinge ... looks a solid 15 and i'll put money on an improved performance. up the boks up the tash ...

      AGENT - 2010-11-16 15:07

      Well said bud , and very true. To each and every Rugga suppoter here there is a different "Best 15". I'm happy with the team and reckon we will take the Scots. Some guys are just gonna be unlucky, thats the way things are.

      AGENT - 2010-11-16 15:08

      I just don't like the Habanananana inclusion, it's real conffusing.

      Raymond - 2010-11-16 15:34

      True Agent, it's time he split.

  • Shistirrer - 2010-11-16 14:31

    Spies "rested" my foot!!! If he does not play, he will not get dope tested. Simple as that.

      Azurite - 2010-11-16 14:36

      ghtsusghj dfgryjtr sjsdhjqag wldfhjk lqklkdjd klldjk....makes a lot of sense, just like your poor comments hey?

      Sonnet - 2010-11-16 14:49

      Shistirrer, wat beteken dit in elk geval?? Spies het nie "dope" nodig nie. Jellous?? Ek wonder hoe lyk jy???

      Sonnet - 2010-11-16 15:01

      Shistirrer - wat beteken dit in elk geval?? Spies het nie "dope" nodig nie. Jellous?? Ek wonder hoe lyk jy??

      chrismtb007 - 2010-11-16 15:11

      firstly learn to spell. secondly, Spies needs a rest, he is one of the only players that played all the super 14 games, and also the springbok games... and to all you Spies Haters, How about that man of the match award last week?!?!?!?!! IN YOUR FACE!!!!!

      Sonnet - 2010-11-16 18:53

      Umhh Hendrik, as jy nou slim was dan sou jy weet daar gaan mos nou volgens die KENNERS nie veel wees om te suig nie!

  • Pieter - 2010-11-16 14:36

    Deon stegman is overrated. Hasnt done anything worth mentioning in the past two games.......give Keegan a go...he has been outstanding. Hanbana nees to be tested for a performance decreasing drug...... Why not let lambie start this game as Scotland isnt as physical as the other NH teams? And omw Zane cant catch a ball period so dont really know what he is doing there?....Even Frans would be abetter bet a fullback. Alberts should have started to give Juan a rest as he takes most contact in a game..... I think taht Lambie will provide more attacking options to the backline...then atleast the wings will get the ball

      Azurite - 2010-11-16 15:08

      Kanko is overrated Daniel is overrated Habana is overrated F Steyn is overrated Pienaar is overrated Let's drop them all hey?

      Wayne - 2010-11-16 15:26

      Azurite sounds like a typical Blue Bull....Daniel and kanko, are if wanything UNDERRATED.... if they were over rated PDV wouldve played them continously, like he does with habana.... Frans steyn is playing out of position, just keep that in mind... Ruan, well, he can only follow the game plan, if his role is to kick the ball away, then thats what he has to do... Real rugby supportets will support the team regardless.... Get with the system my man!

      Raymond - 2010-11-16 15:35

      Azurite sounds like a real Bull supporter.

      Jay - 2010-11-16 15:49

      I notice none of Azur's overated players come from the BULLS..........................ROFLMAO........................couch coaches!!!!!!!!

  • waynet59 - 2010-11-16 14:39

    Is the coach also tested for methylhexaneamine?

      Ragged-Tooth - 2010-11-16 14:53

      Naah, what he's on is yet to be discovered.

      green_goblin - 2010-11-16 15:39

      nope.. he was tested positive for Helium!

  • Mark Edwards - 2010-11-16 14:45

    WTF! This was the perfect opportunity to test an attacking brand of rugby with a young team that has shown talent throughout the domestic season.

      Wayne - 2010-11-16 15:28

      keep in mind, PDV is playing to keep his job, so he is trying to please both worlds.... He must give youngsters a chance, and he must win.... tough call. i wouldve played the youngsters, but i am not the one choosing a team that determines my career!

  • Cameron - 2010-11-16 14:49

    Let's kick away all our possession again, wait for them to run it back at us and then give penalties away with Stegman and Bizzy getting blown to pieces in the NH refs. Then when we want to attack we'll hoist the ball, take the chap out again in the air and get our big forwards to dummy and score tries, whilst all the while our super fast wings can spend all afternoon chasing Morne's kicks, find themselves facing 4 Scots waiting for them, be unable to contain them and chase back another 40 yards whilst we try to get the ball back, but instead just give a penalty away. If we don't manage to concede a penalty, once they've recyled the ball for hte 29th time, Bryan will run up for the intercept only to have the ball chipped over his head and find their winger 20 yards behind him dotting the ball down in his corner. And to cap it all off, ironically, the only time we will hold onto the ball will be in the last 5 minutes when we'll be defending a 2 point lead (a la 6 Morne Steyn kicks). If only we'd held onto the ball for the last 75 minutes we may not have given away 7 penalties at the breakdown and we may have actually used the ball to try and run the ball over the white line ourselves. The Boks must be playing the only game in the world where in order to score you give the ball to the other team? Doesn't make send to me. Soccer, hockey, basketball, pretty much any other team sport, you try and keep the ball. Now the rules make it easy to apply in rugby, but we still think it's easier to score tried when they have the ball in their hands! IDIOTS

      Makutu - 2010-11-16 15:12

      LOL! True story...

      Raymond - 2010-11-16 15:36


  • louis.kriel - 2010-11-16 14:52

    Willem Alberts! Willem Alberts, Twakkie whats going on inside your head?

  • haha - 2010-11-16 15:07

    I think the bench is actually a better team than the one selected. Ruan Pienaar should not even be looking at a Sringbok jersey. Habana must disappear, just give him his one try/record so he can retire. Zane is useless..the rest I can live with, but definitely not the best team.

  • Corry - 2010-11-16 15:08

    Hmmm, I suppose they can't use the blood on the lungs thing again. Why only him being rested. Questions, questions and more questions.

  • Wow! - 2010-11-16 15:17

    My feelings are that we sould have had Keegan Daniels, Ryan Kankowski and Willem Alberts in the starting trio as loosies, as I am sure that they would hold their own - Juan on the bench AND Mvovu in place of Bryan Habana who is still playing as out-of-sorts game, and it may be better that he plays off the bench, so that he has time to analyse the game. I would bring Patrcik Lambie on as a substiture but give him much more game time. Please do NOT DO ALL substitutions in 10 mins, it is to disruptive and don't change what is working really well UNLESS we are miles ahead. Everytime we do massive changes to the front row we are hammered. let the guys settle one by one.

  • Terence.Craig.Berry - 2010-11-16 15:18

    To all they guys making Spies out as some kind of junkie, if you have really followed the whole story, you would have known that ALL the Boks are being tested after CBR and BB tested positive!!

      AGENT - 2010-11-16 15:49

      Geeeee thanx o'learned one.

      Dwain - 2010-11-16 15:58

      Maybe that is why Habana is out with an injury?

  • reggievermeulen - 2010-11-16 15:28

    bryan only there for the try he needs, he is crap, start Mvovo, steggie is a good player and only needs to find his feet in the setup, williem not starting due to his injury and they are blooding him slowly into the mix, just as they will do with all the new boys, besides all the boys on the bench will come on with 20 mins to go, good side for what we got at our disposal

  • haynerob - 2010-11-16 15:31

    Spies rested???? Ha ha ha ... I do smell a rat! Could it perhaps not be because they are scared that Hercules may well be tested for steroids after the game?? This whole shock at CbR and BB being tested positive and the claim of running about testing their food supplements is a smokescreen for the fact that like being a cyclist in the TdF, no professional rugby player today can play the game without the use of anabolic steroids. A very inebriated "DOCTOR" Jannie du Plessis opened his big mouth back in 2007 at the then Cottonfields (now Hooters) in Umhlanga Rocks and admitted that the reason Spies did not go to the World Cup was because he tested way over the limit for steroid abuse. The excuse given was "he had a hereditary lung condition". You tell me - how does a "hereditary lung condition" suddenly go away?? Go figure.

      Shistirrer - 2010-11-16 16:09

      @ chrismtb007: Please read Terence.Craig.Berry's post above. One of you two dumbasses is lying. He says EVERYBODY is being tested, you say NO FURTHER TESTS. And both claim that the rest of the people are d@@ses that don't know the full story. So who's a d@@s now? One of you two, that's for sure - LMAO!!! Besides, everybody knows that the "lung disease" story was just a cover up.

      haynerob - 2010-11-16 17:04

      @chrismtb007: now that we've firmly established that you'd be a perfect candidate for the Hitler Youth in believing the propaganda that you do, do yourself a favor. Buy Jannie a few beers and he will tell you whether PS has used steroids or not. After all, he should know; he is a medical doctor (and a prop).

  • Goblin11 - 2010-11-16 15:43

    Not such a bad side taking into consideration PDV doesnt want to change to much 1 week before the England game. I would like to see Lambie and Pienaar come on together at half time. Pienaar will be a great influence for Lambie, he must try protect him too much by kicking all the time though. Maybe bring on Alberts abd Mvovo on 10mins later. We must all remember, as much of a fan of Alberts we all are, 1 game in the Bok jersey doesnt bump you up to the starting team however justified it is. Steggman needs to step up to the plate this weekend, otherwise maybe its time to bench him and see if he is better as an impact player. Go Boks!

  • Nordic - 2010-11-16 15:52

    @ GraemeBB -- The same that he sees in Adrian Jacobs, Ricky January, and Ruan Pienaar. Beats me.

  • buddy jones - 2010-11-16 16:01

    good to see strauss has a chance off the bench - upgraded to #2 instead of ralapele As much as i wouldnt like to see bismark (biscuit) come off it'll be nice to give all the guys a run and achance to represent their country And thank goodness habana has gone home and given mvovo a chance to play as well..........

  • Shayne - 2010-11-16 16:02

    I don't agree with Zane at the back. He may be the best for the Bulls but that don't make him the best for the Bok's. But lets hope he silences all of us.. Aplon on wing?? Hell Yeah!!!!!!!!! Backline is starting to look better. All we need is Steyn at the back with J Fourie back =) would be nice, maybe next year.. Although I don't think having Steyn at Fullback is our best option. He is more than just a great boot. Habana back on wing with Mvuvo on bench? Well if Habana does perform poor then we have a nice debut to replace him. It all depends how we play on the day. If we gonna keep playing crash ball and up n under's then Habana won't shine. Nor will Aplon. Lets swing the ball and feed the wings. Both Aplon and Habana have great pace. They can't be used to their true potential if they aren't fed the ball. I have said this before and will say it again. I think is important to remember that the only reason we have these "debates" over who should play where is because of the great depth we have in SA. Take scrumhalf for example.. We Starting with Hougaart. Backed by Pienaar. And who is out because of injury? The mighty F Du Preez. Flyhalf is the same. M Steyn. Backed by Lambie. Even F Steyn could make a great Flyhalf. Not to mention B James. Don't forget the contribution B James had in the 36-0 thumping of England in RWC 2007. It is because of our depth that we are having these "discussions" What it comes down to is that just about very player we have in this team is good enough to play for any team in the world. Look at this team.. Just look at it.. It IS a GREAT team. And there is no J Smit, B James, S Burger, H Brussouw, F Du Preez, J Fourie(who has scored against every nation he has played). Etc etc.. I Guess the only question left is if our rugby administration (SARU) is correctly managing our talent?? Well that's another topic all together.. Have a GREAT game guys! Kick Ass!

  • WernerBeytel - 2010-11-16 16:23

    Damn, but Bryan Habana lives a sainted life! Who can honestly state that they think that they would still be employed if they emulated Habana's 2010 Springbok performances in their job? Caveat: I exclude all government and government related departments, ministries and councils from that statement of course :-)

  • nienaber.sean - 2010-11-16 16:45

    finally Hougaard starts, what took so long?

  • Emile - 2010-11-17 11:30

    Kanco unfortunately has to date been one of those players performing well most of the time at Currie Cup level, but hasn't performed at all in a Bok team. Spies didn't have a good season, but is showing a return to form now. Alberts was great in CC final and last week. With the WC 2010 months aways, why not teat the option of Alberts in the team and Spies as impact player. With a heavy and wet field this must be our best option by far. On a dry field and especially against a team playing expansive rugby, Spies would be your first choice. Not sure what Keegan Daniel did wrong, but then again I could never uncderstand what January or Habana did right this past season.

  • Dean - 2010-11-17 11:55

    willem played good in wales i think he sould have been given the nr.8 for saterday Kankowski had his chance and did not use it ,willem played 20min and made a big diff.

  • sharkbait - 2010-11-18 12:39

    guys, i'm starting to see the method in pdv's madness... yes, he has made some baffling changes and wierd selections, but the fact remains... we have 13 players injured (now 14 with bryan) and 2 players suspended (for the weaker amongst you, that is 16 players) Yet, we still seem to be playing a semi decent game and have a chance at the grand slam. As much as it burns my ass to say this, as I am a big JW fan, maybe it's time to give PDV a chance. Because at the end of the day it's all about the world cup and imagine our side with everyone fit?

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