Saracens add to Boks' woes

2009-11-17 23:53

Wembley - A Saracens outfit including 10 South Africans handed the world champion Springboks the third straight defeat of their rugby tour by 24-23 at Wembley Stadium on Tuesday.

Saracens, the unbeaten English Premiership leader, capped a comeback from 18-6 down at halftime with a match-winning drop goal six minutes from the end by former Springboks flyhalf Derick Hougaard.

"We will remember this night for a long time to come," said Saracens director of rugby Brendan Venter, one of South Africa's 1995 World Cup winners.

"I know how courageous they had to be to fight back from 18-3 down. It was just a great performance from the team. It doesn't get much better for the club than this."

Having won the British and Irish Lions series and the Tri-Nations this year, South Africa has now lost to Leicester, France and Saracens in the past 10 days.

"We have brought a whole lot of youngsters over here on tour. Some have shown they are world class players, others have not," said Springboks assistant coach Dick Muir.

Up 6-3 on penalties, Boks center Juan de Jongh beat Saracens winger Noah Cato then stretched out in a tackle by opposite Kameli Ratuvou to dot down. Ruan Pienaar missed the conversion and a penalty but converted a second try by winger Jongi Nokwe, who collected a dropped up-and-under to score between the posts.

Hougaard's second penalty just before the break started a string of 15 consecutive points for Saracens, including a chargedown try for No. 8 Ernst Joubert which unnerved the Boks, and another try when Saracens streamrolled the Boks scrum and midfielder Bradley Britt busted through three defenders.

Hougaard converted for 18-18 but then squandered two dropped goal attempts and a penalty shot.

The Springboks struck back when fullback Earl Rose and winger Odwa Ndungane combined to set up Nokwe's second try.

But Hougaard's third penalty in the 69th minute cut the deficit to two, and his drop goal five minutes later secured the upset victory before more than 46 000 spectators.

"A lot of the stuff we did in the first half we didn't do in the second and a few decisions went against us," Muir said. "We put a lot of pressure on in the first half and did the opposite in the second."

South Africa finishes off its tour against Italy and Ireland.

Scorers were:

Saracens (6) 24: Tries by Ernst Joubert (45 min), Brad Barritt (53 min). Derick Hougaard kicked a conversion, three penalties and a dropped goal.

Springboks (18) 23: Tries by Juan de Jongh (28 min), Jongi Nokwe (37 min & 62 min). Ruan Pienaar kicked two penalties and a conversion.


  • The Scorer - 2009-11-18 00:01

    Is it just me or did South African players score all 47 points? for my personal memory bank i'll record this as SA 47-0 England

  • peter bloubul - 2009-11-18 00:02

    lucky Hougaart was off form. We can't keep blaming the ref either-though this one was a shocker.Question: what is the point off this tired tour?

  • Koos - 2009-11-18 00:03

    Liefling! HAHAHA, this rest the old question about who is the best, the SA players in SA or the SA players outside of SA. ps. Ill Take Derick back any time, any day, any team.

  • meester - 2009-11-18 00:04

    what a joke!!!!! can`t even beat a saracens side filled with SA 2nd and 3rd stringers. think div and his coaching/selecting team got the combinations wrong!!!! you may crucify me, but johnson is just another kankowski at 8th man. brilliant currie cup player but not up to international standards. CJ 2 STRAUSS 6 DU PREEZ 5 HARGREAVES 4 BEKKER 6 DEYZEL 6 POTGIETER 7 JOHNSON 2 ADAMS 4 PIENAAR 4 NOKWE 5 OLIVIER 6 DE JONGH 6 NDUGANE 4 ROSE 5

  • Ja neh... - 2009-11-18 00:04

    It's all because of these BEE players and BEE coach. We will never win anything as long as we have this quota system. Look at what it's doing to the team???

  • BULLE1 - 2009-11-18 00:05

    Mooi So Hougaard!!! So bly jy kon hul wys wie eintlik saam met Morne op toer moes gewees het!!

  • andre collins - 2009-11-18 00:05

    Hahahahaha!!!! This is the Bok team you want De Villiers!!!!! Hahahahahaha. Hope you lose ALL your games, and badly so too. Go on Italy and Ireland!!!!! Sick of racist S.A....

  • Matt Nel - 2009-11-18 00:06

    Why is pdv gambling with our pride, good reputation, our name, our emotions..... Saracens never beat the world champions because they were sitting on their asses watching from the side! Scrum coach needs to go as thats clearly now our weak point with champ or no champs in the team. If it wasnt for Derek Hougaard for playing so bad the score would have been way worst. Positives - our wings looked like always scoring when they got the ball!

  • Mike - 2009-11-18 00:08

    HA HA HA HA HA HA Go Bokke, Make it 5 in a row!

  • bokbefok - 2009-11-18 00:08

    dev dink hy is die shi* - plaas hy doen iets! hy sit op sy gat en niks doenie! useless! die party het te lekker geraak! x is bly hulle kry op hulle moer. kom terug aarde toe en doen die basics reg. die ref was kak, ma dis geen verskoning om te verloor nie!

  • martin - 2009-11-18 00:08

    Please boys, come home! You guys are embarrassing South African rugby but more importantly embarrassing yourselves! First half display was average, second half was so bad it could almost be mistaken for match fixing! How much did Saracens pay you? Sorry but that's my only conclusion because there was no heart, no nothing in that second half - Please for the sake of SA rugby cancel the rest of the tour - Hate to see what Ireland will do to us!!!!!

  • sean - 2009-11-18 00:18

    Lol !!! If politics didn`t play a role and players were chosen on merit , wonder if the real bokke would win ?? LOL !! Only S.A , colour matters in sport , lol !!

  • Mike - 2009-11-18 00:20

    HA HA HA HA HA HA Go Bokke, Make it 5 in a row!

  • Mike - 2009-11-18 00:23

    Eish, these Boks could not win if they played against themselves. And i do not think it can be blamed on the singing of the national anthem tonight. The Italians must be looking forward to beating the Boks for the first time ever. As for Ireland, they must be thinking of handing the Boks a record hiding.Disgraceful display, even though it's the D team.

  • herb - 2009-11-18 00:27

    I knew more Saracens players than Springbok ones

  • Chris - 2009-11-18 00:50

    If the Boks are losing because they are "fatigued", howcome the New Zealand and Australia teams are still winning.

  • Colour Blind - 2009-11-18 00:56

    I can't believe the racist comments being passed by my fickle fellow South Africans It's a sad day when you hope your country loses !!! We won the Tri nations and Lions Tour under PDV and we now want to crucify and ridicule him. But in truth it was a shocking performance by both black and white players...

  • Dman - 2009-11-18 01:00

    so glad i never spent the £10 to go watch a bunch of palooka's

  • the Chef's View - 2009-11-18 01:02

    ruan F***** it up AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Yazzie - 2009-11-18 01:19

    I have been at the last two games the Boks played and lost in Dublin. A third defeat and I would say €70 on beer in a pub might be a better option than a ticket. PS well done Derrick.

  • Peter - 2009-11-18 03:22

    and just wait until the stalwarts like Smit and Matfield retire and AA has a free reign it will make the current debacle look respectable. Go PdV wreck the Boks and prove yourself to be a true African - don't build on what you have but destroy and then admit (or not) that you screwed up

  • ImpartialCanuck - 2009-11-18 03:25

    Tend to agree with "Peter Bloubul" - begining to wonder what the point is of this tour? Mr. de Villiers, I do hope you are learning that a good number of your players on this tour are not good enough - they were shocking in the second half...... It is also very apparent that you need a specialist scrum coach to evaluate and coach your players - how about a certain Mr. Os du Randt (apologies for the spelling!?)? I can only see problems if you do not adopt a new selections strategy and create unity in the team - perhaps the rest over Christmas will be good for all.......

  • DAZ - 2009-11-18 03:43

    Obviously the green and gold do not matter to the BOK coach, including all the history that goes with it. I cannot believe how poor these guys were tonight. The BOKS of old would have always played the best players regardless. Dont think I can remember when last the BOKS lost to a club side, and now its the second loss, humiliating to say the least. Would anyone expect the AB's or the Wallabies to loose to a club side, doubt it.............................................

  • John Paul Jones - 2009-11-18 04:43

    Well done to the South African Saracens, they've shown how good they are to be playing overseas and how overrated the Boks are, especially the Bok coaching and management team. A famous victory. Shows you what useless selectors SA has, the public screams foul constantly but they go ahead with their ridiculous team sheets of C-grade players and the media headlines read "World champions stunned". What a laugh all round, but unfortunately the joke is on our country. PdV and Dick Muir have no skaam.

  • Ian - 2009-11-18 04:58

    This loss had nothing to do with "quotas". It had everything to do with a coaching team who seem to be hell-bent on changing a winning combination for no reason. For goodness sake, stop substituting players when we are winning!!!

  • Capie - 2009-11-18 05:04

    What more do you expect from a team with Earl Rose and Wynand Olivier in the line up?!?!?!?!?

  • Tommygun - 2009-11-18 05:10

    Unbeaten NZ & Aus have also come off a long season with a lot more injuries than us, so cut the excuses.But let's say we did rest 5 to 7 senior players. With PDVs selection choices imagine what France would have done to us. Where are the players who have had big games for a season or two in the S14. Kockott, Alberts, Liebenberg, Sykes, Grant to name a few.Let us not forget the 10 SA players who have just beaten us.

  • Burgiesburnin - 2009-11-18 05:19

    So this was because there was no national anthem then was it?

  • Impi - 2009-11-18 05:24

    Regte mans sing nie vir mekaar liefling nie.

  • Michael - 2009-11-18 05:28

    Shocking to say the least. Where is the heart and pride that used to go with the Nok jersey

  • Frans - 2009-11-18 05:38

    Let us put it into perspective. The Saracens are top of the Premier league, a well drilled side full of seasoned professionals that have played together for a long time. The boks - a side full of talented youngsters playing together for the second time. You could see the glimpses of future potential - at times the handling was sublime. Yes we lost. No we were not humiliated. I thought it was a good game and but for a few questionable descisions by the ref it could have been different. Friday night we ran into a motivated French side, and we all know they can be brilliant at times. I think the midweek team is a brilliant idea, win or lose - we need to find players that can replace the Springboks in future.

  • Neels van Greune - 2009-11-18 05:41

    Lekker Helium : die party is oor my maat.Kry vir jou,ek hoop Italie en Ireland moer julle in ;n koma in.Ek is siek en sat vir politiek in sport,jy en al jou ANC base is 'n verleentheid vir ons Suid Afrikaanse Rugby.

  • chas - 2009-11-18 05:48

    Why persist with this tour every year? Our guys have come off a muderous season what with Super 14, Trinations, Lions tour and Currie Cup. The teams in Europe are fresh almost at the start of their season. Even the singer of our National Anthem appears worn out and tired.

  • paul - 2009-11-18 05:57

    Ag let's not whine a go on about the coach again!! Just fire the AA idiot and get it over and done with!! Peter Div, it's time for you to bugger off before it's to late. Somehow we all know where Springbok rugby is going to end up in the long run with you in charge.

  • Sensc - 2009-11-18 05:57

    Expect many more!! The jake white era finaly came to an end. well done to the sa saracens players. Jake is still our best coach.saru really messed this one up.wonder what p diddy will come up with next?

  • joseph - 2009-11-18 06:04

    miracles dont happen on the rugby field .even though they are pros,its been a long season and you cannot expect to much from these young guys .the real depth of the kiwis ) is offshore making big money and our woes will continue .we have become an assembly line for the british and european club sides

  • Skeletor1 - 2009-11-18 06:08

    Nou wil ek net weet hoekom is die Springbokke as die span van die jaar gekies. Ek is seker die Bulle sal al die games gewen het. En ja ek is 'n Blou Bul ondersteuner.

  • CB - 2009-11-18 06:19

    Hey Peter de Villiers, different story when YOU have to build the team compared to playing a team that's been built by your predecesor - isn't it? Damn ANC monger is proving his worth now.....

  • johan - 2009-11-18 06:20

    mens bou net nie so span nie,een of twee sterk spelers kan nie almal dra nie waar is JOE en WIAN.die voories kom nie die mas op nie maak plan speel die mense op posisie wa hul hoort hierdie rond ploeter breek net die span se moraal. hensop pieter gee oor en luister na die mense wat weet

  • pete - 2009-11-18 06:25

    Better borrow some players from Saracens for the Italy game. They are after all, South Africans! Perhaps we can restore some of the lost reputation.....

  • Ian - 2009-11-18 06:26

    Not blaming the ref for this loss

  • Gatt Miteau - 2009-11-18 06:27

    Imagine if Hougaard didn't have such a shocker and Nokwe's 2 Illegal 'tries' wasn't allowed. I'm looking forward to the World cup with only the All Blacks standing in our way. As long as De Villiers and his sidekicks stay in charge who knows how far the Boks will drop. A month ago it would have been straight forward to make a Bok vs Italy pick on Superbru. Now I'm not so sure.

  • Hendrik van Zyl - 2009-11-18 06:28

    True value of a coach shows after three years. The Boks need a motivational coach, pronto! They have the ability, but lack focus.

  • Tertius Van Zyl - 2009-11-18 06:28

    I am so happy to see that PdV's true talent as a coach is finally showing. I have been waiting for this to happen for a while now. You can only ride the wave of Jake White's effort and success for so long before you need to stand on your own two feet Piet!! Unfortunately for Springbok supporters this is the result of yet another politically motivated appointment, Jake White needed to step down after he won the world cup. What will happen now to PVD after losing to two club sides? Nothing I suppose!!!

  • Barry - 2009-11-18 06:31

    Go BEE Go !!!!! Lets hear the politicians !!!! Great to the overseas players. Lets loose 5 in a row, maybe Orgie will wake up.

  • Kazi - 2009-11-18 06:34

    How many more South African players need to leave our shores before these people wake up????? Very sad to say the least.

  • Bubble! - 2009-11-18 06:35

    The bubble had to burst some or other time. It’s like the economy of SA. The minority cannot feed the majority, same with the sport. How can you expect to compete if merit is not the criteria? Ditto for the coach and his staff. The “old”Boks pulled through this year but are not up to it anymore. You cannot expect 10 or 12 players to do the work of 15. This is the beginning of the end for rugby in SA. The S14 teams might still make semis but the Boks are history. Pdv and his staff have no f...g idea what is going on. Matfield and Smit coach the A team but there is no-one to coach the so-called B team! White players are not interested to play wing at school or as professionals simply because wing is reserved for blacks to hide. JP Pietersen is k%*. Ditto for ADi. Habana and Beast are the only black players that deserve their places in the A Team.O sorry now I am a racist again! So pathetic! SA will be no 6 in the world at the end of next year and will not come close to the finals of the RWC in 2011.

  • JOHN - 2009-11-18 06:41

    Bok rugby on the slide!!!! Jake White please help!!!

  • BEE - 2009-11-18 06:43

    TO Ja neh,,,,,What a lot of K...* Did you say the same thing after we were crowned WORLD CHAMPS and TRI NATION VICTORS Jou WIT P...S

  • Koos - 2009-11-18 06:50

    Mr Pieter De Villiers..the honeymoon is over!! Blame the loss on apartheid and been previously disadvantaged........ bafanabokke..