SARU deny Gold, Muir rumours

2010-11-30 15:26

Cape Town - SARU have come out and denied recent media reports regarding the formation of a technical committee.

The South African Rugby Union (SARU) noted with concern the recent media reports relating to the future of the Springbok assistant coaches.

Andy Marinos, the SARU manager for national teams said these media reports, the latest in a series of allegations regarding the future of members of the Springbok management, are all untrue.

“It is not the policy of SARU to react to rumours and allegations, but the persistent and irresponsible media reporting on the future of the Springbok assistant coaches the past few days have compelled us to put the record straight.

“These rumours are unfounded, unsubstantiated and factually incorrect. SARU President, Regan Hoskins has already stated there are no plans to form a technical committee and that this item is not on the agenda of our Executive Council meeting on Thursday,” said Marinos.

SARU were responding to recent reports that they were putting together a technical rugby committee to lead De Villiers and co.


  • - 2010-11-30 15:37

    Waar daar 'n rokie is moet daar 'n vuurtjie wees!!

  • Ricky - 2010-11-30 15:42

    There you go. All the low IQ idiots on news24 will believe everything Rapport says.

      bluejay - 2010-11-30 16:17

      no need to insult staalburger and his mates now bud!!!!!!!!!!

  • Brandon96end - 2010-11-30 15:43

    I just don't care for this anymore. Everyone knows the coaching team, in its entirety, is not up to international standard, void of influence and / or ideas. . . but let's just carry on in blind faith.

  • Johnny - 2010-11-30 15:43

    ......and PDV will coach the Boks for the next 20 years, .....come hell or high water....

  • spine111 - 2010-11-30 15:47

    Oh no! I had some hope then.......

  • AllieG - 2010-11-30 15:48

    “Persistent and irresponsible” Andy, don’t you think that it is irresponsible to employ these coaches at the highest level, seeing that neither of them have a particular good track record? SARU should start acting responsible by employing the correct people. Coaches at this level who still belief there is a lesson to be learned in every lost, has clearly not the capacity to be at the top!

  • StaalBurgher - 2010-11-30 15:50

    The only irresponsible people around here are SARU that is keeping Divvy around. We all know that if you could get the best coach you would keep Divvy and have the other dude run the show from the backroom. Pathetic. Your policies and your motives have been clearly exposed for all to see.

      Ricky - 2010-11-30 16:50

      Lol! You gonna pop an arterie ou Staal.

      StaalBurgher - 2010-11-30 17:56

      Oh how you guys hate it that someone is repeatedly highlighting the hypocrisy. I have yet to see one cogent counter argument against my statements. At best it is insults from smug racists like Bluejay to divert the coversation from the uncomfortable facts; that Divvy is incompetent and is only there due to the ANCs Race Agenda.

      Ricky - 2010-11-30 18:43

      "Your policies and your motives have been clearly exposed for all to see." Really? What reality do you live in? You have weaved yourself such a fabricated story, your obsession and conviction about the whole issue is not much different from those that believe aliens have visited the earth. Seriously, how bad did Pdivvy really perform compared to previous coaches hmmm?? At the end of the day, if the players don't play according to plan then what should he do? Drop the whole lot of them? The coach can only do so much. Unless you come with concrete proof about your claims, I will laugh it off as hillarious. Everyone blames the coach, I blame the players. They are too bloody dumb between the ears, the whole lot of them. Most coaches would probably have slated their players in the media by now, but he has not done that. And I have not seen a single player slate Pdivvy in public either, except ol Fransie, who is playing k@k at the moment anyways.

      Rossman - 2010-11-30 23:32

      Uh.. players are not allowed to slate their coaches or anybody employed be SARU actaully. It's in their contracts. If the coach gets the credit for the victories then surely he must get the "credit" fot the defeats as well. As far as aliens are concerned.....they're here. Just look at Loftus on a Currie Cup Saturday. And maybe Government as well.

      mike - 2010-11-30 23:40

      Bluejay it is clear that you have no idea what you talking about. Calling our players stupid, really because they bigger, stronger and faster then you you must make them stupid. Well you'd be suprised to know some of them are better qualified then you. So shut it and leave the rugby forums to ppl who actually know something about rugby. I mean your arguments not only invalid but the rest of the world also thinks Div is a clown. How many international rugby coaches can you think of that are so badly ridiculed by the world. You the one living a fatasy world boet, time to wake up an realise your alone!

      James - 2010-12-01 08:11

      @Ricky... sadly the country is full of aliens mate, and this proves Staalburgher's comments 100%correct. "weaved a fabricated story".... C'mon dude... when is such blindingly obvious truth ever weaved and fabricated...even Hoskins admitted it (that he employed a 2nd choice coach based on colour)!.or are you talking about another sport? And a little word on coaches..... cos clearly you haven't played the game yourself - coaches have a massive impact on strategy, team selection, team unity, forward planning, analysing opposition tactics and more. A team functions much better under a winning environment created for them by the coach.

      James - 2010-12-01 08:32

      @Ricky... word also has it the aliens don't breathe air like us, but helium

      Dan - 2010-12-01 09:59

      @ Ricky. I think you should study a few tapes and read a couple of manuals before exposing your blatant lack of knowledge in public. Nothing wrong with the players in general, except a couple of asshole selections by DIV - January, Habana and some crazy use of substitutions. Secondly and clearly not noticed by you, the Boks has absolutely no game plan, no attacking variations and a backline with NO plan. On defence, we must just hope there is enough cover. Basically it all boils down to pathetic coaching and a total lack of initiative or vision at this level. Please do yourself a favour and in future also make time to listen to the comments of ex-international players (not just old Bokke), current and ex-international coaches, etc. The entire rugby world praises the fact that the Bok team is still competative despite pathetic coaching - it almost borders on no coaching at all. Players perform at peak for their Super 14 teams and 3 weeks later they find themselves looking like idiots. The same players then perform in the Currie Cup, just to find themselves a couple of weeks later totally clueless again. So you think it is the players? Please don't expose your utter stupidity in public.

      Ricky - 2010-12-01 11:06

      @ Dan: Thats is a totally weak argument. They cannot adapt to the coach's plan. PDIV have great success before taking over the Boks, and that is why he got selected. Hoskins is an idiot I grant you. The players are dumb. Only a few of them actually got brains e.g. Matfield. Hulle is nie bleddie skool kinners nie man. And please don't compare Currie Cup and Super 14 with Test rugby. They lightyears apart.

      Johnny - 2010-12-01 14:57

      ...And the bottom line is... .....PDV must go...!! ..asap...

  • Allin - 2010-11-30 15:51

    What a pity - it seems the three have more staying power than Mad Bob Mugabe!

  • Kaapie - 2010-11-30 15:54

    As usual the scribes are looking for stories that only they start.

  • ArtGee - 2010-11-30 16:10

    DENY...DENY... DENY !! DENY alles met bene!

  • Sheriff - 2010-11-30 16:22

    I some how knew it!

  • Mike Webber - 2010-11-30 16:26

    Ouch! And I was hoping that the rumours were true, because we need a Technical Committee to assist these bumbling idiots... Oh well, there go our chances for the 2011 RWC.

      StaalBurgher - 2010-11-30 17:58

      Actually it is better this way. Less chance they will be hide Divvy's future idiocy.

  • Bren - 2010-11-30 16:31

    Andy I trust you less than a prostitute with herpes. The reason for your back track is no one want to get involved with Saru not coaches or technical advisor's they know that at the moment anybody who gets involved with the management of the boks is dead meat and can kiss their career away.

      Ricky - 2010-11-30 17:08

      Oh the conspiracy theories! ... rofl

  • MarkStruwig - 2010-11-30 16:38

    Well then you guys are dumber than Pdivvy

      Ricky - 2010-11-30 16:49

      Funny how the Bok's coach is driving people like you and Staalburger, etc around the bend. Its the funniest thing ever. I love it!

      BrettPresent - 2010-11-30 17:13

      @ Ricky - isn't it just? Nothing like a bit of news to get the blood boiling, and then just sit back and wait for the "conversation" to descend into race, bloodlines, mothers, sisters, chops, wors etc...classic :->

      bluejay - 2010-11-30 17:18's soooooooooooooooo funny and they are so easy!doesn't take too much to get them worked up also!

      Dan - 2010-12-01 10:06

      A Ricky. It is actually easy to explain my friend. If you had an understanding and passion for the game, your blood would be boiling too.

  • Ricky - 2010-11-30 17:04

    Win or loose the WC next year, I love it how some people get driven around the bend about the springboks. So passionate about a sport that is played by a small minority of nations. And to imagine that a country with a small population like NZ actually dominates this sport, including Australia, where this sport ranks 3rd/4th in popularity. Shows you how insignificant this sport really is. Its like Bokdrolspoeg kompetisie by die benoni karnaval trying to compete with F1 racing! ROFL.

      mike - 2010-11-30 17:32

      Man it really gets to you that a sport played by the minority is the only one where we actualy can compete. Does this reflect on how poor the majority of us are at sport Ricky. Come all those millions of people who play soccer and yet we can't even qualify for a WC yet alone make an impact when we buy our way in. Shame I truely feel for you mate, either you can't be passionate about anything or what you are is losing so badly you have to troll rugby sites to try get your rocks off. We all feel sorry for you man, but we don't mind if you wanna come watch World Champions play and experience what truely great SA sport men look like. By the way, we, South Africa have the best WC record of any rugby playing nation, so please don't come with this bull about AB's dominating crap...

      mike - 2010-11-30 17:37

      Just for your information rugby is played by over 100 countries. Not as small as small minded ppl like you think. If you think about it there are about 6 serious contenders for WC, which is about the same as soccer, well sorry soccer maybe has 8, lol. Funny that hey.

      GreenyGoblin - 2010-11-30 17:51

      So if it is so insignificant why are you commenting on it or do you just blab away without exercising your brain? Most idiots spew rhetoric and then laugh at their own drivel. Maybe its time you went and watched cars go round and round a track while opening and closing your mouth like a goldfish and left a complicated game like rugby to the people who enjoy it.

      StaalBurgher - 2010-11-30 18:05

      It is the hypocrisy that drives me around the bend. Your smugness about the fact that it is occurring says much about your own racism or, at least if you are white, anti-Afrikaner attitudes. Regardless, I have yet to see one cogent argument against my statements. You have none, thus you ignore it. All that proves is I am right and you are a hypocrite..

      Ricky - 2010-11-30 18:21

      @ Mike, seriously how many countries actually compete in a rugby "World Cup"? How many nations actually compete to qualify for a WC place?? I bet you cricket gets played all over the world as well, but not at a very professional level. So don't come with this weak argument. A rugby and cricket WC will always be inferior to a top medal count finish at the Olympics, or a football WC. Seriously the 2007 edition that was the k@kkest RWC I seen so far. Everyone says JW is great cause he won a WC. I say he was lucky. The Boks did not meet the Kiwi's nor the Aussies in the 2007 edition, who trounched them in the preceding tri-nations. WC's always remain a bit of a lottery. He is and always will be a mediocre coach. What did he get right after he left the Bok setup? Fokol. Did he do anything for the Lions ... no he achieved fokol. The greatest springbok coach in my eyes was Kitch Christie. The rest had no fooking clue what they were doing. PDivvy, like those before them are clearly out of his depth. But hey, the other lot got a stab at a WC, why should he not? Maybe he gets lucky like ol JW. I won't bet on it though, lighting don't strike twice. ROFL.

      Rossman - 2010-11-30 23:44

      Ricky, you must be the sorriest ass on this site. First you hurl chunky bits and try to make it off as intelligent comment. Then you are put in your racist/xenophobic place by people who actually know their shit, but then to cap it all off, you get your far more intelligent mother to write a reply. That is just pathetic.

      mike - 2010-11-30 23:52

      So if you think so little of rugby why are you even on these forums, seriously your life so sad and pathetic you need to come try belittle people who actually care about rugby. It impossible to to try justified a sport or and achievement to someone who just demisses it out of hand. As for soccer WC being an achievement well even Sir Alex thinks it a waste of time and money, most top soccer sides are not national teams. I mean the top european teams would beat all the top national teams, thats another argument you'll probably dismiss. As for Kirch Kirstee, I agree he was a great coach but just remember the side he took over and went on with was actually Ian McIntoshes team that under Mac where getting thumbed, so you just lost your own argument. Under Jake these players where world beaters, under Div they've become average.

      IanJ - 2010-12-01 05:47

      Ricky - Go back to your bedroom thats covered in Man U posters and maybe Bafana Banana posters. Rugby has helped put SA on the world sports 'map' - period.

      Dan - 2010-12-01 10:10

      Ricky. Rugby is about ability. You don't need to be 100 million to be able to play the sport. You need 22 excellent players, coached by a world class coach. That's all. At least you don't see a team ranked No.90 in the world playing in a World Cup - beter even, hosting it.

      Dan - 2010-12-01 10:22

      @ Mike. Well put, but I don't think this dude will understand it. Maybe you should draw him a picture.

      Dan - 2010-12-01 10:37

      Ricky, now you are really showing just how stupid you are. In the 4-year cycle between RWC tournaments, all the other countries play various qualifying rounds to determine who qualifies for the next RWC. Top countries like NZ/ENG/SA/AUS/etc. don't play against these lower ranking teams as in soccer. It is actually pointless. Only the top lets say 8 qualifiers from around the world then get the opportunity to play against the TOP 8 ranked countries. It is actually a very basic system to ensure only the top 16 teams in the current 4-year cycle compete in the RWC. Unlike soccer, we really don't want to see No.90 playing against No.76 in the world - it is a bit pathetic. I guess you also don't know why soccer works like that. It is beacuse of money. FIFA doesn't give a flying puck about the quality of play, they want to ensure television covarage all over the world. That's is where the money lies (television rights). Even if let's say China or India for that matter is totally useless at soccer, Blatter still wants to sell the television rights to the station broadcasting to ±1.5billion viewers in those countries. The income from braodcasting rights is enormous. That is why qualification for SWC gets devided into continents and not top teams. A certain amount of teams per continent is assured of qualification to ensure world wide coverage. The No.1 team in Africa might otherwise never even reach a SWC.

      sethmig - 2010-12-01 11:24

      @ Ricky Like Brian O said: "knowledge is knowing that Tomato is a fruit and wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad!"

  • Peter - 2010-11-30 17:36

    toooooo. tired......

  • BardofAvon - 2010-11-30 17:50

    Rapport is used to getting egg on its face when it comes to rugby news.

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  • marc.wentworth - 2010-11-30 18:21

    This is my first comment on sport24. I read the onlline version everyday. Yes, I am a male, white South AFRICAN. I love the boks, braaing and biltong! Due to circumstance beyond my control, I call London my home. I am delighted that the boks pulled of an amazing win last weekend. I will support then until the day I die ! One thing that stands out by the comments I read, is the absolute disrespect you all have for one another.I miss home(SA) everyday but when I read such ingnorant and childish remarks , I fear for the worst ! SA is the most beautiful country in the world!Trust me, I know. Embrace it , Live it and Love it ! Its your home, filled with blacks, whites , Indians ........... who the hell cares about colour, its filled with South Africans. You all need a serious wake up call. Dont be part of the problem, be part of the solution. Back to rugby. Divs record and decision making of late has been extremely poor. Does he based on performance (not colour) need to be fired? Hell Yeah, he does.

      James - 2010-12-01 08:37

      no one care about colour until discriminated against. Then suddenly it's shoved in your face.

  • Koos Kaap - 2010-11-30 20:52

    Asseblief, asseblief, asseblief hou Gold by die Springbokke. Anders kom hy dalk terug WP toe en ons het reeds genoeg probleme van ons eie.

      Dan - 2010-12-01 10:39

      Koos Kaap jy verdien 'n Oscar vir daai ene!!! Mooi man!

  • Bezaman - 2010-11-30 21:00

    No wonder the government wants to shut them up!

  • ArtGee - 2010-11-30 21:50

    As for Springbok Rugby being an "AFRIKAANER" sport is crapp! Habana, educated at K.E.S., Patrick Lamby, ex Michael House, Addy jacobs, certainly not an Afrikaaner, not is Mvovo, Beast and Apolon. Serious guys, Rugby is ENJOYED by South Africans of ALL COLOURS and BACKGROUNDS, except for the few that still think it is a racist sport! They have Soccer..... and boy oh boy, do they have soccer... Just the other day they "FOUND" a white player, ex LEEDS UNITED, a certain Mr SOMMA, and now they think the sun shines out of his AR5E! Only WHITE player in a ALL BLACK TEAM (pardon the pun) for many a game! I live in Holland, and NEVER miss a Boks game, as I am a STAUNCH SUPPORTER! I crossed the CHANNEL to watch my team play/hurt the POMS at Twickenham last Sat!! Well WORTH IT!!!

  • IanJ - 2010-12-01 05:42

    How big is our Bok Coaching Team including Assistants, Assistant Assistants and the like ?. Number of Players = 26. Number of Managers etc = 75. Go figure.......

      Dan - 2010-12-01 10:43

      Your management team looks like the South African Government. 10 times the sizes it needs to be and doing 10 times less.

  • Sam Glazer - 2010-12-01 06:46

    Andy, as the manager of our national teams, including the Springboks, have you now learnt that arriving in NZ three to four days before the first test of a Tri-Nations across far time zones is not the right thing to do? Our players were asleep on their feet during that test this year and never recovered thereafter. I haven't read anywhere that you acknowledge this mistake. It was extremely costly. As our manager, we need to hear from you about these things. Silence implies lack of awareness. Thanks.

  • Dan - 2010-12-01 09:28

    Who do we believe - a sick & gossip hungry media or a spineless, backstabbing, pathetic, clueless, politically domintate SARU? Have been fed so many lies by the media and SARU, just showing the absolute shocking state of administration in rugby. The way they tried to replace the assistant coaches just before the tour was just another chapter in the diabolical way SARU conducts itself and the decisions they make. Don't just get rid of the coaches, clean out that entire heap of sh1t they call SARU. Maybe then the Boks will again look like a professional outfit. No difference between SARU and ASA (Athletics SA).

      Ricky - 2010-12-01 11:16

      Clean out the the whole lot of them? You realise those guys in SARU are exactly the same people who is at the top of the unions you love to support. They also the ones who selected the current Springbok coaching staff. So ja ne.

  • bbmjames24 - 2010-12-01 11:55


  • bbmjames24 - 2010-12-01 11:57

    WELL< THERE GOES THE WORLD CUP!!!!! Tata hasie!

  • Francois - 2010-12-01 23:53

    Ek dink Regan, Snorre en Andy is gay. Hulle cover net mekaar se gatte.

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