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Botha fails drugs test - report

2013-02-10 12:07

Cape Town - South African heavyweight boxer Francois Botha has tested positive to a banned substance, according to a report on New Zealand's stuff.co.nz website.

Botha, who lost a controversial fight to former All Black rugby star Sonny Bill Williams in Brisbane on Friday, reportedly failed a drugs test on the eve of the fight.

Results of a urine sample submitted by Botha in Brisbane last Tuesday under WBA regulations show he had Phentermine - a banned stimulant - in his system.

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The drugs test, which has now been forwarded to the WBA's global headquarters in Panama, also detected Benzodiazepine, which suggested Botha was also using a valium-type product.

The fight was marred in controversy when it ended with Williams receiving a unanimous points decision. But the fight ended after 10 rounds, instead of 12, as per WBA rules and as had been advertised.

Botha was furious with officials after the decision was made to shorten the bout, with the 44-year-old looking to have worn out Williams by the end of the 10th."You know I love Sonny Bill, I think he's a great guy, a gentleman, but this was bullshit," the 115kg "White Buffalo" said in an interview after the fight.

"If you look at the crowd, you know who won. You've got to win fair and square, not with the advantage of the judges, you've got to fight. According to me I won, hands-free."

Botha also said he wanted a rematch against the New Zealand heavyweight champion.

"A rematch - if he can beat me he can go on, but if he doesn't he should throw in the towel."

Sport24

Comments
  • bryan.nicholson.33 - 2013-02-10 12:10

    All that hype.... And it ends like this?

      Jesus - 2013-02-10 14:44

      This is old news! There is more to the story that news24 is not putting up. Go read on the Internet you will find more news than just here. His 1st sample was positive so they sent it to panama where it got tested and found he had more banned substances. They say its weird as its not normally heard of to test a boxer in the way he got tested, and for both results to be confirmed within 5 days. They also say why test a boxer only for his result to come after the fight. More news on this subject in Australia and New Zealand

      jason.vanderspuy.5 - 2013-02-10 15:47

      The Aussies are no doubt trying to deflect the attention away from the embarrassing organising and outcome of this farce of a fight. Let’s assume the story is true. So the guy takes Sleeping Pills (Benzodiazepine) and Diet Pills (Phentermine). How much was actually found in the sample and what kind of an advantage would he get from this? So he’s an ageing boxer, carrying a few extra kilograms before the fight and desperate to get rid of it. Remember the fight was rescheduled from last year on SBW’s request. But then the Aussies would know everything about diet pills (remember Shane Warne before the 2003 world cup) And sleeping pills a stimulant?! Lol, try again.

      squeegee.pilot - 2013-02-10 17:58

      I'm shocked... hahaha. Cheaters both of them...

      boom.afridi.56 - 2013-02-10 18:18

      peeps need to start giving this SBW chap some credit. i dont get the haters out there, this dude faced a guy that beens in the ring with tyson, hollyfield and so many boxing pros and still came out on top! regardless of how long the fight was a win is a win, and talk is cheap. if botha was so good, SBW would've been out in round 4. plus now this guy is taking a banned substance. i think SBW deserves some kudos!!

      rocco.dewet.3 - 2013-02-10 23:52

      My doctor friend tells me a benzodiazepine is a sedative, a form of sleeping pill. So that would explain Botha's performance in the earlier rounds. Phentermine is a stimulant, which perhaps would account for the comeback in the 10th. As for SBW, he is clearly and definitely on steroids, like many/most other professional athletes. Sport is a dirty business nowadays. But it is entertaining isn't it?

      pierre.devilliers.9231 - 2013-02-11 08:32

      The drug test "result" was the backup plan in case Botha knocked SBW clean out, then Botha could quickly be disqualified. Plan A was the judges will “score” SBW as the winner, while SBW tries to hang on and go the distance. To shorten the fight when SBW was about to fall flat on the canvas was just an improvised plan when SWB was clearly not going to last, but “luckily” still ahead on points. At least his promoter can think on his feet. Seeing all this BS and also the Lawrence case and other sport irregularities that were going on for decades, it’s a pity NZ was not actually food poisoned in ’95.

  • danalexsmith - 2013-02-10 12:16

    botha, you idiot.

      classwar.trotsky - 2013-02-10 13:45

      Don't stress too much, it was only Klipdrift.

      pierre.devilliers.9231 - 2013-02-11 08:34

      After all that happened, don't take this "drug test" seriously. I think there was a test "result" ready before Botha was even tested.

      pj.andreas.1 - 2013-02-11 11:33

      Does anyone think botha colluded with the corrupt Nasser,mundine, Williams trio and threw the fight?

  • tooka.loosh.5 - 2013-02-10 12:18

    The plot thickens

  • louis.hager.12 - 2013-02-10 12:19

    Whap, whap, whap, whaaaaaaaaaap.

  • Kwanele Mzwanele Masoka - 2013-02-10 12:20

    Let the white buffy use the stimulants,after all he is an oldman!!!!

  • Jimmy NZ - 2013-02-10 12:21

    So the idiot knew it was 10 rounds and he's a drug cheat! Love how all the hostility was angled at SBW... So he's actually not that bad!

      gray.braatvedt - 2013-02-10 13:54

      @Jimmy: the whole fight was a farce from the very beginning. Putting a 44 year-old has-been up against a 27 year-old never-been was a mismatch in the first place. None of the pundits ever expected any good boxing to come of it and it didn't. Did you ever stop to think why a Kiwi vs Saffa was fought in Brisbane anyway? Could it be that Queensland is one of the only Australian states that has NO legislation over the governance of boxing or combat sports? Did the promoters cheat to let Williams win? It wouldn't surprise me in the least. Did Botha know about it? it wouldn't surprise me in the least. Is Botha guilt of taking drugs? No surprises there either. All I know is that my huge respect for Williams as a rugby player and an athlete has gone right down the tubes.

      Jimmy NZ - 2013-02-10 14:05

      Can't argue with you there.

      boom.afridi.56 - 2013-02-10 18:21

      SBW is cool. nothing wrong with being about 'the money' - all 'sports heroes' are in it for the money too, they just dont make it that obvious!!

  • Michael Hawthorne - 2013-02-10 12:25

    sounds to me like the nz pommies are jealous an independant test should be run here in SA its to easy to taint urine in your favor...

      gavin.lott.9 - 2013-02-10 12:37

      The drugs test, which has now been forwarded to the WBA's global headquarters in Panama,....

      Jimmy NZ - 2013-02-10 12:38

      NZ pommies... your stupidity is boundless!

      gsaker1 - 2013-02-10 13:22

      That is a really dumb comment and u clearly r totally ignorant of who and how the drug sample system works u clown. But in typical SA style even when u find out yr guy is a drug cheat - its all a conspiracy...I hope at some stage we get some SA sports fans on these blogs who are not so one eyed and plain stupid like u clearly r mate

      zapadela.tistarocha - 2013-02-10 17:56

      I'm sure it was Bozo the clown not Michael as is indicated above.......

  • tian.nel.31 - 2013-02-10 12:26

    ja nee kyk

  • Michael Hawthorne - 2013-02-10 12:28

    and if they test SBW unrine Im sure they would confirm that is a gay hugging non boxer who use to play rugby... Im 100% sure SBW also has something in his system but their hiding it...

      Jimmy NZ - 2013-02-10 12:37

      Only thing that is secret is your apparent man crush on SBW and due to the fact you can't have him your anger... Jealousy makes you nasty dumb@ss!

      tim.southey.5 - 2013-02-10 12:38

      What's "unrine"? Well you're right... sort of. He was a brilliant rugby player (and often embarrassed players from your part of the world I may add)... now he is an inexperienced part time boxer... and he has just embarassed a career boxer (and drug cheat it turns out) who ran off his mouth before discovering that he wouldn't be able to get on top of this guy who was apparently "dumb" to box him until round 10.

      Jimmy NZ - 2013-02-10 13:11

      @nibiru, nah mate, just tired of all the name calling and insults to NZ. You guys actually think you are a bunch of saints and have huge chips on your shoulders! But if you are reading all my comments you must have now realised that I'm mostly talking smack in response to some sort of stupidity. But fear not, I'll try be more serious!

      niel.walt - 2013-02-10 16:24

      Jimmy nz, its a fact, a lot of these people dissing sbw are just angry that he's an all black. If he was a south african they would al be singing a different tune. Same story with richie mccaw. If you are as successful as the all blacks are you will atract a lot of hate.

  • rodney.louis.7 - 2013-02-10 12:30

    wouldn't be surprised if the nz cheats tampered with urine sample !!

      Jimmy NZ - 2013-02-10 12:35

      Coming from a person that lives in probably one of the most corrupt countries in the world, I'll take your opinion with a bit of salt! Everybody is always trying to skrew you saffa's over! Take your head out of your @ss!

      Fezile Ntontela - 2013-02-10 12:36

      just wonder Rodney what would.be your comment if botha the white buffalo was black just wonder really

      gavin.lott.9 - 2013-02-10 12:39

      So Botha gets tested & you call NZ the cheats...you just can't win with people like you!

      Caleb - 2013-02-10 21:47

      Congrats Rodney, youve just won the award of biggest idiotic comment on here, and thats saying something.

      rocco.dewet.3 - 2013-02-11 01:00

      Yes, Drumm, that broad peasant-like face of yours fits in very well on this blog. If you were any smarter or classier than the many trolls on this blog, trailer-park-boy, it is surely not evidenced by the usual content and predictable level of your comments.

  • sango.jika - 2013-02-10 12:53

    I just love how some people are over protective for god sakes the guy cheated. I was wandering how did he even get to the tenth round now i know, he won't get a rematch after this.

      gavin.lott.9 - 2013-02-10 13:06

      I think your right...not sure he'll get ANY match again....

      mwaba.phiri - 2013-02-10 14:56

      Against Flo Simba the guy was extraordinarily active in the last rounds for a 40 sumthing old. Now we know y

  • johnny.potatoes.3 - 2013-02-10 13:05

    LOL - the fat cow. And he still lost the fight.

  • trevor.davey.102 - 2013-02-10 13:06

    Funny ! Why didn't they test SBW also ? I will bet his Boxing and Rugby career that he (SBW) will fail his dope test . In NZ and Aus are always something fishy going on when it got to Dope testing !

      Thilivhali Fitzgerald - 2013-02-10 13:16

      something is just not ryt with these newzeland focks first it was their dempsey oldman who denied us d opportunity to host d 2006 soccer world cup now our white buffalo has been robbed of his title and they still have d courage to go on and label him a drug user what are they up to really disgracing our nation?

      gsaker1 - 2013-02-10 13:29

      Sonny Bill was tested...he was clear - man do any of u SA fans do yr bloody research or do u just run off at the mouth with no knowledge of whats actually going on? Also u should know that testing is often done when they are suspicious of a sportsperson. A seriously overweight out of condition 44 yr old still in a boxing ring is suspect...George Foreman was constantly tested in his later years but he was in far better condition and known to be a total fitness fanatic and was always clear...Botha looked like a guy who was in no condition to be there and these tests prove he and others knew damn well he was in no condition so they cheated to boost his performance end of bloody story . Can't wait to hear the excuses that come out of his mouth - Like - the usual - ' I didn't know what i was taking they just gave it to me and I trusted them ' - yeah sure Captain herbal life - yeah sure mummy made u take it

      gerrar.maya - 2013-02-10 13:34

      They test both boxer. Not just one

      peter.neethling.7 - 2013-02-10 13:44

      Umm, they almost certainly did test SBW. He just came up clean and that is not really a newsworthy story.

      Thilivhali Fitzgerald - 2013-02-10 13:45

      @gsaker wen was he tasted coz its not mentioned on d story besides y do they allow them to box before the results are out what was going to happen if botha had won? strip him of his belt again ? that to me sounds so stupid no wonder why a match scheduled for 12 rounds ended as a 10 rounder

      gavin.lott.9 - 2013-02-10 13:52

      Please read the following.....Botha, who lost a controversial fight to former All Black rugby star Sonny Bill Williams in Brisbane on Friday, reportedly failed a drugs test on the eve of the fight.

      rocco.dewet.3 - 2013-02-11 01:02

      Saker, I would accept that SBW was not on stimulants for the fight. But if you tell me he is not usually on steroids, then I have a bridge to sell you.

  • voiceofreason6 - 2013-02-10 13:09

    He was not even tested for drugs before the fight, so how did he test positive for anything?

      gavin.lott.9 - 2013-02-10 13:18

      Botha, who lost a controversial fight to former All Black rugby star Sonny Bill Williams in Brisbane on Friday, reportedly failed a drugs test on the eve of the fight....Eve means before.

  • tiaan.truter - 2013-02-10 13:18

    http://www.drugs.com/phentermine.html is used for diet...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzodiazepine.hmmm can think that the Benzo is a banned stimulant,but phentermine...not sure.But if this gives u an advantage then botha SHOULD be disqualified.

  • xoli.mbambo - 2013-02-10 13:26

    What is wrong with these ppl (whites).They claim that they are good in sport but they use drugs.

      gavin.lott.9 - 2013-02-10 13:29

      Your an idiot!

      Thilivhali Fitzgerald - 2013-02-10 13:52

      xoli i guess u didnot watch that fight or at least follow this story from the beggining so just reserve yo comments to yo self ok

      gary.doyle.520 - 2013-02-10 14:00

      Xoli you dumb c**t. All races dope.(excuse the punn) Do you remember Ben Johnson, just as an example. Chop!!!

      nettie.potgieter.5 - 2013-02-10 14:01

      Jip Xoli, white people use white drugs and Black people black drugs. Happy now?

      xoli.mbambo - 2013-02-10 14:45

      Thanks Nettie for supporting my point. Whites use drugs in sport finish!!

      mwaba.phiri - 2013-02-10 14:50

      Its not only whites my bro. If SA boxing was serious we would be shocked by the extent of doping among all boxers

      niel.walt - 2013-02-10 16:18

      I agree xoli! White people use drugs in sport and black people strike at work. Ur comment is stupid dude and is actually racist

      boom.afridi.56 - 2013-02-10 18:21

      LOL this comment is ridulous but it sure is funny! :P

  • tlotlo.phele - 2013-02-10 13:38

    A boxing druggie what a disgrace

      squeegee.pilot - 2013-02-10 18:04

      I'm shocked... he must be the first boxer ever to dope... lol

  • richard.korver.71 - 2013-02-10 13:40

    Well, we all know boxers are not the brightest peanuts in the packet.... so, any test is difficult, should have taken his cribnotes with him into the examination room.

  • gawainj - 2013-02-10 13:43

    1st this whole was planned 12 go to 10 out of the blue test eve of the boxing match so didn't they get results just there and then GOd forbidds the super star Sbw loose agains a 40 which he would have come over if it was 12rounds so I don't care wht they say bout drugs they looses

      gavin.lott.9 - 2013-02-10 13:50

      Without the drugs he wouldn't of made it to the 10th round.

      julez.vern.3 - 2013-02-10 17:40

      Wat!!!! Praat jy engels

  • david.s.duncan.1 - 2013-02-10 13:47

    Turns out Botha is just another cheating idiot. There is no place in sport for cheating. This whole fight has been a disappointing farce. Fortunately it will all be forgotten once the cricket and rugby starts.

  • Tiaan Swart - 2013-02-10 14:10

    What a nutcase - he was big mouth before the time saying that SBW is gonna get a hiding and he could not even beat him on enhanced drug usage. This guy gives us South Africans a bad name and he must f-off back to America and join Armstrong for biggest crooks in history of sport.

  • nico.eksteen.7 - 2013-02-10 14:12

    LOL. Ai Fransie ai. Thought he looked a bit like a no co-ords beetle when he came bouncing into the ring.

  • fanie.essgee - 2013-02-10 14:20

    Ag no man, how friggen stupid, most people were convinced you were hard done by, and you had to go and stuff it all up, how bloody stupid.

  • wikus.burger - 2013-02-10 14:26

    When you go and do some research on these substances you will see what they are used for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      gavin.lott.9 - 2013-02-10 14:34

      It's a banned substance & mixed together is even worse.

      alfred.killian - 2013-02-10 15:06

      I think he is using salusa 45

  • nico.eksteen.7 - 2013-02-10 14:39

    Could be deflection mode from a farcical event. I wouldn't take the accusations at face value.

  • voiceofreason6 - 2013-02-10 14:49

    Guys, look it up, he was not tested for drugs. Queensland do not even have a system in place, this is just another way to somehow justify Sonny's win, and make the shortening of the fight seem less important. Botha was robbed, and the only way to make it fair is to have a rematch in S.A.

  • Die.Gemaskerde.Kussing - 2013-02-10 14:56

    Lol, he pulled a Lance Armstrong...and failed

  • bo.ridley.37 - 2013-02-10 15:09

    Doubts raised over claims that Francois Botha tested positive to a banned substance: SEVERE doubts have been cast on Francois Botha's reported positive test to a banned substance before his WBA title fight against Sonny Bill Williams. Fairfax Media stated Sunday night that Botha's urine tested positive for banned stimulant Phentermine after a sample was taken last Tuesday. However, Australian National Boxing Federation committee member John Hogg said it would be "bizarre" if Botha was even tested, let alone did so knowing he would fail. Hogg is the ANBF Queensland representative and was the man who sent Botha for his full medical last week. Hogg said there were no compulsory performance enhancing drugs tests required for boxers in Queensland and he had never heard of Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority spot-testing professional boxers in Queensland. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/boxing-mma/doubts-raised-over-claims-that-francois-botha-tested-positive-to-a-banned-substance-following-sonny-bill-williams-fight/story-fndn16fm-1226574876533

  • niel.walt - 2013-02-10 16:09

    Dear sport24, please stop posting further articles on this fight because for every article that states something, 5mins later there's 1 that contradicts it.

  • niel.walt - 2013-02-10 16:29

    In ander toetse het hy ook positief getoets vir klipdrift en bloubul rugby.

  • sicelo.brukwe.9 - 2013-02-10 17:05

    They can't do anything without the support of drugs. I mean from Amstron to Botha, you name them all tik-koppe!

      she.is.here.777 - 2013-02-10 17:07

      En jy positief vir idiot!

      niel.walt - 2013-02-10 17:08

      Before you run your mouth, do you know what botha used? Phenterine suppresses appetite and Benzodiazepine helps you calm down so you can fall asleep.

      sicelo.brukwe.9 - 2013-02-10 17:20

      Oupa abuse drugs like anything!!

      Jimmy NZ - 2013-02-10 17:52

      @Niel, drugs to suppress his appetite? I don't think they were working!

      niel.walt - 2013-02-10 18:41

      Lol jimmy

      sicelo.brukwe.9 - 2013-02-10 20:22

      @she.is.here maybe I'm a better idiot than you cat!!

  • sicelo.brukwe.9 - 2013-02-10 17:08

    Typical White guy!!

      niel.walt - 2013-02-10 17:12

      Ag shame kyk wie soek alweer aandag

  • she.is.here.777 - 2013-02-10 17:09

    Millions of people had sex before marriage so in the greater scheme of things, who committed the greater sin? Makes you think doesn't it? hehehe Very disappointing in FB if this is to believed...

  • sicelo.brukwe.9 - 2013-02-10 17:10

    Naai!!

  • morgan.whyte.54 - 2013-02-10 17:18

    Just so that you know what my angle is on this, I'm a south african, I think this is the one of the worst if not the worst bouts i've ever watched. I am embarrassed that they can put Francois Botha in the ring and call him a boxer from SA, he's been over seas for more than a decade, talking under correction. Personal opinion he can't box, been there done that. The fact that he rides on the names of boxers that he has climbed into the ring with shouldn't have any effect on SBW. Well FB didn't shape-up too well against Mr Tyson by the way, (Tyson wasn't at his prime when he fought FB, and a good solid hook put FB on the canvas) and I was honestly routing for SBW all the way. Secondly, the story comes out that substance tests were positive, that is truely disgusting, its not the first time he's been tested positive, he should be ban from the sport. Why he never climbed through the ropes with Corrie Sanders was such a pitty, he would have got a hiding from a South Afican thoughbred. As for SBW, he's got to keep at it and i hope he doesn't hang up the gloves, so that he can gain experience to handle so-called "boxers" like Francois Botha. He reminds me of Jimmy Abbott, in more ways than one.

      nico.eksteen.7 - 2013-02-10 19:00

      I disagree that this was the worst fight. I thought it was ok, I've seen much worse.

  • julez.vern.3 - 2013-02-10 17:51

    Fransie kannie dansie

      morgan.whyte.54 - 2013-02-10 18:29

      He can't punch either.

      nico.eksteen.7 - 2013-02-10 19:06

      Oom punches harder than Sonny Boy Williams, though. I was very disappointed with SBW's punching power. Very soft for such a strong and big boy.

  • stompies.hattingh.5 - 2013-02-10 19:07

    Whatever, SB is not a boxer, nor is WB!

  • dave.ducker.3 - 2013-02-11 06:38

    no wonder he wanted those two extra rounds ;) hope this is not accurate, if it is true he should have known better !!!

  • ZION - 2013-02-11 07:28

    Benzodiazepine or (valium) is a treatment for sleeplessness and anxiety and that is probably why he fared badly near the end of the fight.

  • divan.beytell - 2013-02-11 07:31

    can only laugh at some of these comments made on this site. All the verbal abuse and nonsens comments. Please guys, if you can't make a valid point or comment, just read along, saves everybody time and effort. We see this after every big sporting event... Enough will all the excuses and abuse, doesn't really fir a true spotsman or follower...

  • Hansie.Crook - 2013-02-11 09:11

    Its VIAGRA, the old man wanted to raise to the occassion..The SBW occassion.

  • Fredster69 - 2013-02-11 09:44

    You've got to win fair and square, not with the advantage of the judges, you've got to fight. According to me I won, hands-free."..... LOL

  • frans.visserdsb - 2013-02-11 09:47

    Quite amazing that the Aussie scientists are so much better than everybody else that they can return a positive drugs test wthin 5 days... even in the olympics it takes at least 2 weeks...

      gavin.lott.9 - 2013-02-11 17:07

      Umm...thousands of test compared to two....not rocket science..

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