Lorgat breaks silence on India

2013-10-28 13:20

Cape Town - Cricket South Africa (CSA) CEO Haroon Lorgat says the decision taken for him not to be involved with the upcoming India tour was his own.

India last week finally confirmed that they will tour South Africa this summer - albeit on a lesser scale than initially intended.

The month-long tour in December will comprise of a mere two Tests and three ODIs - far less than the three Tests, seven ODIs and three T20s initially planned.

Lorgat will not be dealing with matters related to India and the ICC pending an inquiry into allegations against him.

The allegations stem from his role in a statement issued by David Becker - a former legal head of the ICC - that the BCCI's flouting of the Future Tours Programme (FTP) could have legal implications.

In his statement, Becker said it was "improper" to allow a member body to "blatantly disregard an ICC resolution". This statement upset the BCCI, and the tour was almost called off completely.

The tour will now take place, but Lorgat will instead take care of all domestic affairs at CSA.

However, in an interview with the EWN Sport website, Lorgat insisted that he took the decision to temporarily step aside on his own.

He said he offered to step aside until the tour was confirmed as he didn't want it to be cancelled because of him.

The CEO also insists that his position is not untenable and there is plenty of work for him to do on the domestic front while the India tour is on.

He mentioned a development programme that must be revisited as well as transformation issues to be dealt with.

CSA now stands to lose about R200m in lost revenue due to the shortened India tour.

Some of those losses may be off-set by arranging a short tour for Pakistan to these shores late next month, with a PCB spokesperson confirming that they are in communication with South Africa regarding a short tour but said the correspondence is at a preliminary stage with no concrete decision made so far.


  • Michael - 2013-10-28 13:34

    "CSA now stands to lose about R200m in lost revenue due to the shortened India tour" This all you guys care about!

      UNITY - 2013-10-28 14:28

      Bullies of Corrupt Cricket in India (BCCI)... Everything will affect them.. All other cricket boards cave into them for loss in revenues.. Such manipulation.. The most pathetic ,unpatriotic thing to do in cricketing history..lack respect for them, and eventually their behaviour will tarnish Indian cricket. The ICC is controlled by them. Cricket politics at its best. BCCI are egocentric.

      Ryan Shelton - 2013-10-28 16:07

      Of course its what they care about. Cricket is a profession for all those involved. Yes, there is the element of pride in representing your country, etc for the players involved, but at the end of the day it's a business. It pays to put roofs over peoples heads and food on the table. And a R200m loss is devastating no matter which way you look at it. That is money which helps to develop, promote and grow the game in this country, and the worst hit are the small unions who will now be unable to host international matches. These games are major pay days for the small unions and helps keep the game afloat. Terrible, vindictive and petty bullying on behalf of the BCCI!

      droot.goos - 2013-10-28 19:41

      Less for Loergat and his cronies to steal

      Blanco Ntini - 2013-10-29 16:49

      @Swart Gevaar aka Wit Wolf: Pappa Blanco ken vir jou. ;)

  • reggie.reginald.3110 - 2013-10-28 13:37

    Lorgat so untrustworthy look at his eyes

      droot.goos - 2013-10-28 19:41

      He will steal the milk out of your coffee

      Blanco Ntini - 2013-10-29 15:53

      @ Reggie: Kray jou ry. Ronnie wag by Mc......

      Blanco Ntini - 2013-10-29 16:11

      @Wit Wolf: "Gaan klim terug in RooiKappie se ouma se bed. Ek hoop die houtkapper kry jou goed beet.

      Blanco Ntini - 2013-10-29 16:45

      @Swart Gevaar aka Wit Wolf: See jou changed you profile name! Banggat . Klu Klux Klan Keyboard Kommando?

  • Ben - 2013-10-28 13:49

    The BCCI is just a bunch of greedy assclowns that acts like children when somebody calls them out on their manipulation of the cricket system. ICC should be ashamed that they're getting controlled by the money from BCCI.

      Blanco Ntini - 2013-10-29 16:18

      @Ben : Pleease read what Mr Richard Barnes has to say further down in the comments for some clarity.

  • Krish Naidoo - 2013-10-28 14:10

    U need d Indian money.... BCCI rule

      Dean Redelinghuys - 2013-10-28 15:02

      really, i say cancel the tour and offer pakistan a full tour!

      Blanco Ntini - 2013-10-29 16:15

      Rupees for Peace? How has life changed!

  • Chez Kri - 2013-10-28 14:12

    CSA also has a cloud hanging over it with the bonus scandal that was never properly dealt with. The Indians, Pakistani's, Australians and Sri Lankans have all been accused (and some found guilty) of match fixing. Seems to me that the ICC is an empty organisation that does nothing to help cricket but plenty to help itself.

      Richard Barnes - 2013-10-28 14:20

      What should the ICC do about match-fixing?

      Luthor Jones - 2013-10-28 14:57

      South Africa has also been involved in match fixing. Remember Hansie ?

      Chez Kri - 2013-10-28 15:32

      @Richard. Are you kidding? What do the ICC do other than sort-of arrange tours? @Luthor. That is exactly my point. When other bank accounts of Hansie's were found and India wanted to talk to Boje and a couple others, the CSA said it must be left alone because shame, Hansie was dead. That full story never did come out.

      Richard Barnes - 2013-10-28 16:17

      From the ICC's Wiki page: "The ICC is responsible for the organisation and governance of cricket's major international tournaments, most notably the Cricket World Cup. It also appoints the umpires and referees that officiate at all sanctioned Test matches, One Day International and Twenty20 Internationals. It promulgates the ICC Code of Conduct, which sets professional standards of discipline for international cricket, and also co-ordinates action against corruption and match-fixing through its Anti-Corruption and Security Unit (ACSU). The ICC does not control bilateral fixtures between member countries (which include all Test matches), it does not govern domestic cricket in member countries, and it does not make the laws of the game, which remain under the control of the Marylebone Cricket Club... The ICC has no income streams from the bilateral international cricket matches (Test matches, One Day International and Twenty20 Internationals), that account for the great majority of the international playing schedule, as they are owned and run by its members." So I'll repeat the question: what (other than their current initiative of running the ACSU) should the ICC be doing about corruption or match-fixing in cricket? Let's start with what jurisdiction they have over the local police forces that investigate match-fixing in each country? Do they have any jurisdiction over, for example, the SAPS?

      Richard Barnes - 2013-10-28 16:26

      What I'm saying is that appealing to the ICC to do something about match-fixing is like appealing to the UN to do something about crime in SA. The UN is a building full of bureaucrats in New York, what are they supposed to do about crime in SA? It is up to the local authorities to tackle these things. The ICC's ACSU is a co-ordinating body. Where match-fixing has been uncovered, such as in the Hansie case or the latest IPL scandal, it was because of the investigative work of the Indian police, not the ICC. The ICC will serve in an advisory and co-ordinating capacity. But the onus is on the member nations to tackle corruption and match-fixing at national level.

      Blanco Ntini - 2013-10-29 17:35

      @Chez: Richard Barnes. "He knows cricket", to borrow from the late Vuyo. Richard are saying that the ICC can only act on what they are mandated to do. Most of the agreements on tours are between the cricket boards of individual countries. USA, Russia and other countries has veto right in the UN. Is this fair? No? Saudi Arabia controls OPEC. USA is nice to the Saudi King...........Is life fair?No? Money/Power rules! We can bang our heads and "spin our balls" on any type cricket pitches(No DRS if againt India). For cricket to survive financially it needs India. India knows this...Have to play nice to my Bank Manager soon........Sorry, lost in the SAHARA desert. Hope we have India for dessert.

  • Tauriq Bloew - 2013-10-28 14:25

    Like Russel Peters say "Indians hate each other"...

      Blanco Ntini - 2013-10-29 15:59

      @Tauriq: As true as what Naas Botha say "Cowboys don't cry". Seen Brokeback Mountain? Jirre. what irrelevant and stirring comment.

  • Nuusman Ekke - 2013-10-28 15:04

    Lorgat wie probeer jy bluf? Jy is goed voirgeskryf deur jou kolegas. Hoekom het jy nie toe die bakleiery begin het jou dadelik onttrek nie. Die regte besluit moes gewees het om die toer af te las as om Indiƫ toe te laat om krieket verder die beheer te wil oorneem. So isSA maar nog altyd die slapgat gatkruipers.

  • Greg - 2013-10-28 15:15

    Well done CSA... taking it up the bum from the BCCI again...

  • Louise Patterton - 2013-10-28 15:17

    waiting for the schedule! want to get Wanderers tickets!!

      Blanco Ntini - 2013-10-29 16:53

      @Louise: What a real optimist! Thanks for lifting the gloom. Hope we trash India, even though I still admire Sachin.

  • Seeni Moodley - 2013-10-28 16:20

    CSA lost R200m because of Lorgat.

      Blanco Ntini - 2013-10-29 16:30

      @ Seeni: Jy Seeni die hele problem hoekom SA to Moodley met BCCI is nie. Die public voel hulle is Naaido..........Sorry for the bit of crassness, but that's how I deal with anger online.

  • Leon Postma - 2013-10-28 16:43

    Can we believe him?

      Blanco Ntini - 2013-10-29 16:31

      Did you believe Hansie before the commission?

  • Varun Ravichandran - 2013-10-29 07:59

    South African Cricket via the CSA, and South African cricket fans themselves should learn to stand up for themselves. They were ripe for bullying in this instance, hope they can learn a lesson or two and harden up when the next time rolls along and we ask them to bend over again. And of course there will be a next time, the BCCICC aren't going to go away anytime soon, unfortunately.

      Blanco Ntini - 2013-10-29 16:39

      @Varun: I know how the Indians feel. Australian and English cricket bosses made India bend over for a long time, before that it was the British Empire, the Moguls. A bit of payback time.Please think outside the Roti. Most Afrikaners have rejected the AWB in our New South Africa. We are not trying to curry favour/flavour the curry.

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