Pakistan stand in SA's path

2010-05-10 14:15

Johannesburg - The Proteas won’t let their vision be blurred by net run rate concerns when they play Pakistan in their final ICC World Twenty20 Super 8 match at the Beausejour Stadium on Monday.

“Our focus will be on securing the win,” commented coach Corrie van Zyl. “The match between New Zealand and England comes after ours so it is no use worrying about other scenarios,” he added.

Pakistan are currently the only team without a win in their pool but they put the Proteas out of the last edition in 2009 at the semi-final stage before going on to win the final, so there will be no illusions in the South African camp about the task awaiting them.

There are several possible outcomes of Group E’s battle for the two semifinal places. If England beat New Zealand, then a South African win over Pakistan will be sufficient to secure the second semifinal place against the top team in Group F (either Australia or Sri Lanka) on Friday.

If New Zealand beat England and South Africa beat Pakistan then three teams (England, New Zealand and South Africa) will be tied on 4 points and net run rate will be decisive. At the moment the Proteas have the worst run rate of the three but are close enough to turn it around if they have a decisive victory.

If England beat New Zealand and Pakistan beat South Africa, then there will be three teams in second place on two points (New Zealand, Pakistan and South Africa) and net run rate will again be the decider.

There is also the possibility of a wash out but this is highly unlikely in St. Lucia. The games that have been severely affected by the weather to date have all been in Guyana which has a much higher rainfall pattern at this time of year. One thing is for certain: there will be no tied games. If the two totals are level regardless of the number of wickets lost the match will go to a Super Over for which each team nominates three batsmen and one bowler.

The Proteas basically lost Saturday’s match against England in the first six overs of the latter’s innings. There was a dropped catch, a missed catch and another Morne Morkel no ball that cancelled out a wicket.

The Proteas also made a mistake in bowling back of a length to Kevin Pietersen who is at his most comfortable against that length of bowling. Pietersen’s half-century went on to set up England’s more-than-competitive total.

Even so, it was not that they did not create wicket-taking opportunities; they simply failed to take advantage of them. When it came to the batting the Proteas did not repeat the successes of the New Zealand game when the top four created the platform before unleashing some of the most dangerous power hitters in the game.

They were five down with little more than 50 runs on the board and JP Duminy was the only one of the specialist batsmen to play with any sense of fluency.

England seemed to be one step ahead of the Proteas in all departments and it added up to a resounding win.


  • do or die time - 2010-05-10 14:06

    The thing is our net run rate(NNR) is -650 whereas New Zealands are -300 and Englands +1.760 and that's where the problem lies unfortunately which means we have too not only score massive but also bowl well enough to (a) beat Pakistan all out or (b)restrict them to less than say 120 runs or so which is by all intents and purposes is quite a mean feat.So if the Kiwi's were to beat England later this afternoon then they would be firmly in the driving seat to qualify for the semifinals along with England the only sad thing for us though is by how much they'll win by or lose by.South Africa does not have a winning team at the moment whereas the other nations in this tournament does.Yesterday Gayle against India step up a notch the same way he did against England in the group maches to set up the Duckworth/Lewis win by blasting Sidebottom for 15 runs in the first over.Cameron White did the same thing when Australia were down to 5wickets for a meager total to get them to 168.We can't seem do this when playing in major tournaments.Why I don't know is it psychological,do we subconsciously think we better than everybody else even before we hit or bowl a ball and that we can just cruise to victories without any real effort or what.What is it about the Proteas overall that they can't achieve what the Sprinboks do in competetive games where a trophy waits at the end of it all hey what the hell is wrong with our cricket?

  • Glen - 2010-05-10 14:14

    we shouldnt be in this position,although i feel our fire power is as good as anyones we are to one dimensional,and the other teams are on to us.time for least 2 with Herch and get on with it............

  • BOB - 2010-05-10 14:23

    I just can watch this sport anymore, i think it is about time that younger players get the chance to show what they can do. we can only win if we a consistent, the players we now have in the side are hot and cold players, and have shown over the years that they can not win big games. I will hope for the best but it is a hope

  • Burgiesburnin - 2010-05-10 14:24

    The proteas will be like rabbits in the headlights. They have proved time and time again that they are not at their best under pressure. Start the car.

  • John - 2010-05-10 14:26

    GO PROTEAS!!! The Team is behind you 100%

  • THE MAN - 2010-05-10 14:29

    impossible for south africa just impossible....south africa have never ever been convincing in this format of the game and that wont change when they play pakistan either....South africa need to able to get to 100 runs in 9 overs and we all know they just dont have what it takes.This tournament would be a good example to send out a completely transformed team to represent south africa a team with 8 or 9 starting blacks we have nothing to lose so why not????Gavin smith is just a waste of a deservid spot in the team surely this guy has played his last game for south africa in all competitions?

  • Standing at Point - 2010-05-10 14:32

    Stating the obvious but better than rob houwings efforts....

  • Rob - 2010-05-10 14:33

    As much as I hate to say this- We are chokers. Please prove me wrong- Please

  • AZB - 2010-05-10 14:44

    This time around the Proteas are choking even before the semi's. It just seems to me they do not realise is a team sport that requires commitment and contribution from all the players, not just one or 2 batsmen or a bowler. Grham Smith fails to convince me of his "greatness" as a captain. After every loss he can explain exactly what went wrong, but then its too late. He needs to fix and take charge during the game.

  • Graps - 2010-05-10 14:46

    The Protea's simply lack the team spirit and will to win the Aussie's showed in their match against SL. 5 wickets down and they still come out on top. We have the players, but need Broken Fingers Smith to hand the captaincy to Botha, and we will return to the performances that beat the Aussie's in their own back yard.

  • Just another Fan - 2010-05-10 14:57

    Shosholoza!!!!! Killer Instinct boys, nothing less.

  • GeePMB - 2010-05-10 15:02

    We should not be relying on technicalities to get us through to the next round. Simply put, we need to re-think our whole T20 playing style. lets pic specialst 20 over cricketers. In Rugby we have the 15 man game and we have the 7 man game, very few players play both. Make Johan Botha the Skipper in the 20 over format, leave out the likes of Gibbs (from ALL formats of the game) let Smith concentrate on test cricket and drop the old dinosaurs who are simply playing for a paycheck. T20 is NOT real cricket so let's build a T20 side who specialise in this form of the game, then maybe we will win a tournament!

  • Soeker - 2010-05-10 16:45

    Here we go AGAIN. Fooi Tog!

  • Stalker - 2010-05-10 17:10

    That's it! I've had it with S A cricket! What a bunch of retards! What the hell are the selectors smoking? I've gone from being a passionate supporter to an absoulute hater of the team, hope the plain crashes on the way back!!!!!!

  • mike - 2010-05-10 17:22

    Get rid of Smith. He is the cause of the complete problem. Put in a new captain and maybe Smith can then play. He is useless as a captain

  • @THE MAN - 2010-05-10 17:27

    Everytime you write in on news24 you call Graeme Smith GAVIN and the other people on here keep making a fool of you by trying to correct you.Why can't you write Graeme is it too hard for you to write his name properly? Anyway back to the Proteas: Pakisan made 148/7 in their 20overs which means SA will now have to score 149 runs in 12.5 overs to go through to the semis and hope that either New Zealand loses to England or if they do beat England that New Zealand don't do so by more than 30 runs.It's a tough ask to be honest.SA are 43 runs behind England on net run rate which is a helluva lot to ask.

  • Confused - 2010-05-10 17:31

    @THE MAN Who is Gavin Smith?

  • Steve - 2010-05-10 17:49

    SA will lose this one because they keep chosing the same as@@les. Get rid of Smith, Gibbs etc. They are useless. GO PAKISTAN

  • Baas-Ted - 2010-05-10 18:07

    What the hell are these morons doing???????? They are doing everything possible to lose this game!!!!

  • Steve - 2010-05-10 18:08

    Busy watching the game. It's over for SA. Again Smith, Gibbs, Kallis and co have done nothing. They need a welcoming committee at OR Tambo when they gt back, but this group must boo them all the way. I have always maintained that Smith is the rotten apple, and as such must be hounded out of the team

  • Idiot - 2010-05-10 18:18

    Does Muppet Smith have a clue? Does De Villiers golf handicap = his IQ.

  • sa suck - 2010-05-10 18:40

    They deserve to loos the way they play. school girl team can play better cricket. bunch of loosers

  • 3G - 2010-05-10 18:44

    When SA can field their best 11 players in a tournament, then maybe we can compete with the the moment, we are playing our best "compromise" against other teams' best...and we still think that we can really be competitive...enough said!

  • Rob - 2010-05-10 18:45

    Disgusting- Have we been paid to drop the game. Duminy is a one-time wonder- Should never have been in the side. Graeme- Well if he gets going the sheep follow- If he falls then the sheep fall I feel like crying- AGAIN At least we can play Rugby.

  • shocked - 2010-05-10 18:48

    what a bunch of idiots

  • heimlich - 2010-05-10 18:49

    chooooooooookeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeers hahahahaha :-D

  • Proteas are worst than the AutoGeneral Lions - 2010-05-10 19:06

    Just to rub salt into our wounds Australia recently trashed Pakistan in all formats of the game at home and England did the same to Pakistan in T20's in the Middle East and also in this competition.Pakistan are a weak team at the moment 'cause of loads of internal problems and squibbles between the players and the PCB over match fixing,captaincy etc which means they were practically there for the taking and yet the Proteas can't even beat this weakened team.There's something fundamentally wrong with SA's national cricket team's modus operandis as to why they can't seem to win tournaments.And then Smith goes on in his postmatch interview saying ag ja you know we didn't get the basics right or we let ourselves down having to much to do in the end or we gave away to many runs in the end or some other K@K.

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