Indians give SA a lifeline

2012-09-30 19:36

Cape Town - India's win over Pakistan on Sunday has given South Africa a slight chance of still qualifying for the ICC World Twenty20 semi-finals.

Earlier on Sunday the Proteas lost their second Super Eights match on the trot after a humiliating eight-wicket loss to Australia in Colombo. They also lost to Pakistan on Friday and are currently rooted at the bottom of Group 2 with zero points. The top two teams in each group qualify for the semi-finals.

However, India's eight-wicket win over Pakistan means that South Africa still have a slim chance of making the playoffs. Had Pakistan beaten India then they would have qualified together with Australia.

Australia lead the group with two wins (four points), with India and Pakistan on one win each. But the Indians are in third position due to a weaker net run rate of -0.452 compared to Pakistan's -0.426. The Proteas have the worst net run rate of -0.605 but should they claim a big win over India on Tuesday, and Pakistan get well beaten by Australia, South Africa and Australia will progress to the semi-final stage.

Australia and Pakistan meet at the R Premadasa Stadium in Colombo on Tuesday, with the SA-India game following there straight afterwards.

It may sound like a long shot, but it should be enough for AB de Villiers and his charges to stay motivated for the remaining few days.


  • ianmichaelcalder - 2012-09-30 19:41

    Hahah, South Africa you beauties! Always Choke-A-Cola. . .

      johan.wilsnach - 2012-10-01 00:24

      ASUME they did not choke, do you have any ideas?

  • boom.afridi.56 - 2012-09-30 19:48

    i will have no teams left to support. send both pak and sa home, they're both playing like crap!

  • boom.afridi.56 - 2012-09-30 19:50

    if you can only make 133 and 128, then no way will you have a chance against watson, warner, gayle, or even dilshan and luke wright. rather let india and aus go through, they seem to handling this better.

      richard.barnes.3914 - 2012-09-30 20:10

      boom, all the teams batting first at Colombo are making rubbish scores. SA 133 and 146, India 140, Pak 128. I'll be interested to see what Aus make if they bat first against Pak. To date, Aus are the only team who have batted second in both their matches. Even if the Proteas have been rubbish, at least they can draw consolation that India and Pak - who are more used to these conditions - haven't batted any better when batting first on the same pitch against the same opponents. The Proteas are the only team in Group Two who have batted second and have actually made a match of it.

      richard.barnes.3914 - 2012-09-30 20:17

      Batted first, I mean.

      boom.afridi.56 - 2012-09-30 20:27

      but barnsey how can we blame the pitch? australia were 144/3, pakistan sitting at 75/5 on the same pitch the aus batsmen just used. how can it change in like 20 minutes? you could check they just looked too afraid to whack it. no watson, warner, gayle, dilshan, wright. thats the problem. and we stuck with boom boom, on 14 today and guess what, out caught as usual!! no teams left to support mate. i hav no hopes for tuesday, win or loose, not going to bother much.

      richard.barnes.3914 - 2012-09-30 20:43

      I don't think one can blame the pitch although you do get pitches which historically favour the side batting first or second. This one seems to favour the side batting second.

      boom.afridi.56 - 2012-09-30 20:56

      i think it's 6 out of 14 now to team batting second. we will blame the venue then!! haha

      atholl.canterbury - 2012-09-30 21:42

      When u bowl in the short end of the pitch (bowlers end) you have 0% chance of success than from the pitched-up business end (batting end). Loss end (short) results in the following probability : Bowled (0%) LBW (0%) stumped (5%) caught (10%) ==> six (80%) four (80%) SA were perfectly positioned in the 'stronger group' of log leaders - only two wins required & you're in the semi's against a 'weaker' team. having said that ... these guys have been on the road for 3 months ... it's time to come home now ... they need to get batteries charged and (of course) ... we haven't smoked 311 hashim joints at kingsmead for a long time. ;-)

  • niel.phillips.7 - 2012-09-30 19:52

    absolute useless they still get paid making such idiots of themselves......whatta laugh

  • Berto En Petra Mostert - 2012-09-30 20:12

    Moving players up and down in the batting order, bad team selection, bad strategy and captaincy lead to our downfall

  • aidan.w.naude - 2012-09-30 20:14

    my question to you lot is wtf is levi doing to make the side.

      boom.afridi.56 - 2012-09-30 20:29

      supposed to to be making 60 ball hundreds and breaking more records. i never thought i'd say this but i miss graeme smith lol it was more fun to call him a choker too :(

      richard.barnes.3914 - 2012-09-30 20:32

      It was Levi or Faf. Both played very poorly in Eng. Both were given a chance in the warm-up match against NZ and they made identical scores from the same number of balls. Levi got the nod. They could have alternated Levi and Faf but, on the form that both are in atm, I don't think it would have made a difference. It would just have been Levi going out cheaply one match, Faf going out cheaply the next. The other alternative was Gary taking a chance on someone like David Miller or Colin Ingram who weren't on the Eng tour, bringing them into the side cold just before the tournament and hoping that they fitted in and hit form immediately. But then you're reaching desperation stakes. You can say that Levi and Faf should have been left home after Eng. But Aus played a tour of UAE just before the WC and Mike Hussey made 36 runs in 3 T20 innings. I bet Aus are glad they didn't leave him at home based on his UAE form. Form can switch on and off very quickly. Hash was in superb form in Eng, not so much now. Gary couldn't know in Eng how the guys were going to play in SL.

      aidan.w.naude - 2012-09-30 21:24

      Richard - Please see what Miller did in England for his county in t20's this season, superb form.I thisnk they should open with King Kallis and HASHIM. Boom Graeme Smith would of captained us to victory against Pakistan and he would of bullied these mediocre attacks we have fallen short to. Ab De Villiers has a swollen head and his captaincy is looking dire. His Keeping is nothing short of diabolical - he has cost us progressing by constantly moving the batting order around. All those people who crucified smith - why are you not venting your frustration to your chosen one now.

      stephen.axtell.7 - 2012-09-30 21:56

      @aidan.w.naude - dont expect much, most on here have zero logic

      richard.barnes.3914 - 2012-09-30 22:18

      Aidan, Justin Ontong has done superbly for his province. How well did he do for the Proteas in England? Wayne Parnell was great for Pune Warriors in the IPL, one of the five most economical bowlers in the whole league last year. Faf was an excellent opener for Chennai and wore the orange cap for a while. So because these players have done well in other leagues this year, they would have done well today? Regarding Biff, I seem to recall a bit of a kerfuffle regarding a certain team in green losing to a certain team in black at a certain WC in India. And the words "chokers" (sorry, "chockers") and "useless captain" and "time to kick him out" being bandied about. I also seem to recall people whining that Mickey Arthur was a loser and if only we could get a coach like Gary Kirsten, things would be much better. Well, guess which of those two coaches was on the winning side today? But yes, you're right. The best guys are always the guys we don't have. The moment we DO have them, they become rubbish. Go figure.

      richard.barnes.3914 - 2012-09-30 22:27

      BTW, if you think people aren't venting at AB now, maybe you ought to read a bit more. Might I suggest the "AB: We won't choke" article?

  • lenox.ntlantsana - 2012-09-30 20:17

    Which never happened in the history of PROTEAS!

  • maggsnaidu - 2012-09-30 20:37

    Botha made a far better captain than de Villiers!

      nick.collis.16 - 2012-09-30 21:25

      The problem with South African sport is still the politics. Both Ingram and Miller should be playing but then the racial mix of the squad is too white! FB is unable to accelerate the run rate when we get bogged down after a poor start. Kallis, Amla and De Villiers pick themselves and can be excused a poor run but Levi should have been discarded in favour of Albie Morkel at the top of the order. Wayne Parnell has some ability but is short on confidence and shouldn't be in the squad. South Africa has enough talent to compete but until the best squads are picked we will never be world beaters.

      Granville Paulse - 2012-09-30 23:39

      Ingram has been given countless chances and could not cement his spot. FB has out-batted him all year in the SA A team and contributed more in the 2 opportunities that he was given than most in the squad. Miller is over-rated. Please have a look at his numbers. Albie is not good enough. Peterson, FB, Duminy and Amla are probably our best players in this WT20, so please try again.

  • tommy.rinrin - 2012-09-30 21:02

    ... All i can say is, go Proteas! We still have a chance! ...

  • Jason - 2012-09-30 21:07

    "but should they claim a big win over India on Tuesday..." So, we're screwed.

  • nathi.mnisi.7 - 2012-09-30 21:07

    One can clearly see where our focal point has been in the past few years, and thats our tesr side, the team pretty much picks itself, as for our ODI and T20 side...welll the results are there for all to see, eg Neil McKenzie and Ashwil Prince were brilliant for us till the former had a bad patch in 2008, then never heard from again, then the latter after Sri Lanka.... Never heard from again...they were dropped to make way for better players, in our ODI and T20 sides, well I can think of a few names who are passangers currently in the starting line up, eg Levi, Du Plessis, Parnell, Albie Morkel, Berhardin (playing a test match scenario in a crucial T20)

      nathi.mnisi.7 - 2012-09-30 21:18

      Point I'm trying to make, pick your best squard possible based on FORM!!! NOT past glories and reputation

  • hendrik.schutte.3152 - 2012-09-30 21:29

    India sure gave us a sniff by beating Pakistan. But hey, now is "show time". No more chances for AB to mess around with wrong bowling options and team selection better be spot on. We need a BIG win over India and the damn Aussies better not slack off in their game vs Pakistan.

  • nathi.mnisi.7 - 2012-09-30 21:36

    This must be a first....atleat in a while. South African supporters have to back Australia to pull us out of a mess, bitter pill to swallow. Go Proteas/Aussies? For tuesday.

  • PrettyUsefulArt - 2012-09-30 22:18

    The fat lady is yet to sing... Not holding my breath though. *sighs sadly*

  • roy.wadhams.1 - 2012-10-01 00:48

    Any bets that this one will definitely be lost by the Proteas. Not certain why they think that they stand a chance of beating India.

  • my10cent - 2012-10-01 07:35

    Can't they do anything on their own - always has to be given some sort of "lifeline"?

  • malcolm.lindsaypayne - 2012-10-01 07:47

    To say that the Proteas were pathetic would be kind as they were more than that in their last two games. I believe that AB is a great cricketer but have my reservations about his cataincy as well as his Keeping. I personally think he is to much of a nice guy to captain the side and that the Proteas need a captain with a bit more authority and steel EG.BOTHA maybe even a guy like STEYN.

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