Hansie case to be re-opened

2011-11-15 12:44

Cape Town - According to reports in India, Delhi Police are set to re-open the case involving the late Hansie Cronje and his alleged match-fixing activity with Indian bookmakers.

This comes in the wake of the criminal conviction of the three Pakistani cricketers, Salman Butt, Mohammad Asif and Mohammad Ameer for their part in cricket's spot-fixing saga.

The Deccan Chronicle website reports that sources in the Indian government confirm that an investigation involving the late disgraced former Protea captain would restart.

Cronje died in a plane crash before he could be charged in 2002, however, the case seems to have been brought back to life.

Despite Cronje’s death, the investigation will be restarted via a letter from the British courts formally requesting assistance from the Indian courts for details about another key suspect in the investigation, Sanjiv Chawla, who is a London-based bookmaker.

British authorities have shared information with the Delhi Police to aid their investigation, should further probing be required.

The Deccan Chronicle reports that police would submit a status report to a relevant court soon informing it of its intent to restart the investigation. Cronje was forced to step down after the match-fixing allegations surfaced in 1999.

The report further suggests that Delhi Police’s crime branch intercepted cell phone conversations of Cronje, which they have since found out belongs to a Delhi-based bookmaker, Rajesh Kalra.

It is believed that Cronje used the phone to talk to several people in Mumbai and New Delhi, most of who were subsequently tracked by the unit.

Cronje was apparently sharing information relating to the team’s matches such as team composition and other areas affecting the outcome of the match being discussed.

A number of Indian and overseas cricketers and cricket administrators have been questioned in the case so far, according to reports.

Delhi Police had first sent a letter rogatory to the UK in 2000, but as the response was not “satisfactory”, another was sent in 2007 after some new facts came to light, an official said.


  • francie.potgieter - 2011-11-15 12:53

    Perhaps now everybody will be charged that Hansie has covered for. Still the best captain we every had. Still admire him for his game since he left I am completely of cricket.

      Inky - 2011-11-15 13:19

      I do not understand your logic. “The best captain and you admire his game”? How could he possibly be the best captain when he purposely lost games for personal financial gain and his game was treachery and betrayal!

      george.traut - 2011-11-15 13:33

      No respect for the guy. I was a 12 year old laaitie when he pulled this crap. I believed him, our team. As a lady you will never understand. 12 year old boys live for sport. Every single backyard test match we played, somebody always wanted to be Hansie (whether you were bowling or batting). We lived through them in all of our backyard cricket games. I simply can not forgive him and probably never will. He was our captain and broke the hearts and trust of an entire country. Will never forgive him.

      Rosemarie - 2011-11-15 13:51

      George, how can you be so harsh!!! God forgives us how can you not forgive Hansie....

      Roy - 2011-11-15 13:54

      Well said Inky.Hansie was a crook and lived well off his ill-gotten gains.

      pcrous - 2011-11-15 14:12

      You are so right my China, Cina.

      Dwerg - 2011-11-15 14:15

      What are all you people on that will "Never forgive him" ? Like you were all sprinkled with holy water or permanently absolved of all wrongdoing. Despite their bookmaking involvement, not a single action on the field by Hansie, Herschelle or any other Protea was ever less than 100%

      george.traut - 2011-11-15 14:23

      @Dwerg. No I wasn't sprinkled with holy dust and I am by no means perfect. But on the other hand. Nobody is calling me a Hero or a legend either. And those 2 words there are words that should be reserved for people that actually deserved it. So you say he said sorry? So what? I don't care if every single person on this planet forgives him except me. Just DO NOT label him as a Hero or a Legend because I will bitch and moan every single time I hear those words.

      Fred - 2011-11-15 15:28

      Hansie was as finer example of Christian morality as we are ever like to have as a cricket captain.

      Clive - 2011-11-15 15:40

      Agree they should leave Hansie alone now paid enough till the day he died and even with all said and done was still best SA Capt since readmission. If we really kick out all who are involved we could lose 1/3 of international players worldwide. Make it know if you are court now you are out and let the past be the past.

      Shoosh - 2011-11-15 15:45

      @george.traut your comments confirm that you are still a laaitie, stop acting like a spoiled little brat.

      Dane - 2011-11-15 16:13

      Wow most of you just shoot blanks claiming Hansie lost games for Money, go look at the case. he never lost the games they paid him to lose.... hit and run... just like criecket. Still he stays my favourate captain in cricket. PLUS!!! he was loyal to the end he never gave up the names of those guilty with him thats a true captain.

      adrien.mcguire - 2011-11-15 18:05

      I used to be an out and out Hansie and had met and spent time with him. There was no doubt he was amongst the finest criketers this country had ever produced , However............. I have no respect for anyone who sells his country down the river I have no respect for someone who recruits other team mates to be corrupt I have no respect for someone given a position of resposibility, who sells it for personal gain. What gets me, is the double standards. You will never forgive those in the ANC who are corrupt. In fact you call for their heads. What they are doing is no different from what Hansie did. They sold their souls and abused their positions of trust. (Bear in mind that I am not a supporter of the ANC, just the opposite) I suppose it was ok for OJ Simpson to walk free, because he was a great sportsman, despite the fact that he murdered two innocent people. I would call on you all , to treat all crooks, with the same disrespect as they have earned, whether black or white, a sportsman or a politician or just an ordinary person. There must be one justice for all, and until we are all equall before the law, the predictions in "Animal Farm" will haunt us all

      Dirk - 2011-11-15 18:44

      If a balance sheet was drawn up of our lives, Hansie would still end up with more credits than 99% of of us. Beware of hypocracy.

      Anthony - 2011-11-15 19:11

      @adrein yes my thougths were, what if he was asslema would you all feel the same, NO whats good for the goose is good for the gander.

      Alva - 2011-11-15 20:25

      Sad thing about Hansie, he was a risk taker, a gambler. It was within his personality profile to throw a match. He was not the first and won't be the last.

      Helen - 2011-11-15 20:37

      I always thought Hansie was set up by(the Waugh brothers Fatboy Warnie now Liz Hurleys lapdog the Indians,the Pakis & without a doubt the English)Hansie took the wrap for these despicable people who like to call themself cricketers(the gentalmans game)so much for the Aussies being gentalmen they are crass & vulgar,as for the rest my Hansies death haunt you till the day you die,he would still be here today if some of you admitted your guilt when he was in the dock. Hansie was the best captain S.Africa ever had .We loved him then we still love him now.

      Alva - 2011-11-15 21:32

      Hansie was a true game player. Exciting to watch. An excellent planner.To him risk was exciting. Gambling was a game within a game. He was not in the game on his own. For those he covered for, I hope it comes out and they can pay for their part. Unfortunately for Hansie, he was the first to get caught.

      adrien.mcguire - 2011-11-15 23:50

      It is amazing how some people will easily forgive a famous person when they commit a terrible crime, but will not forgive their neighbour when his dog poops on their pavement. And the Godsquad needs to get a life !

      brian.enslin - 2011-11-16 07:10

      All these delusional people! The cornerstone of leadership is morality! If you are a moral leader and inculcate those values with your followers, you can stand the test of time as being a legend. Hansie failed miserably! He is no leader he is no captain. His selfish choices disgraced the South African cricket team and his country. Only weak minded people will choose to follow him and still believe in his leadership!

      rondee.scherman - 2011-11-16 11:09

      george.traut@ you must be a poor little man with a poor little life. You never made a mistake in your whole life? Get help soon!

      Helen - 2011-11-16 19:56

      george.traut,you were a lost cause then, you are a lost cause now you will be a lost cause in the future,don't claim you never made a mistake even as an adult that you wish you could undo,Hansie did apologise & if you followed the court case you would have seen the pain on his face,all the while protecting(not ratting you understand) on the ones who were deeper in the Sh*t.Get a life retard.

  • lucas.coetzer - 2011-11-15 13:13

    He was the MAN, he is a LEGEND. And he will always be my Hero in life and in cricket.

      Andre' - 2011-11-15 13:21

      Lucas ! Hansie was a great cricketer but your Hero was a fraudster and no better than Salman Butt. Hansie the cricker was a different person to Hansie the Man! Raise your standards and morals.

      george.traut - 2011-11-15 13:35

      Only reason why people are so sympathetic towards him now is because he is dead. Everybody would have been singing a different *send him to jail* tune if he was still alive.

      Clive - 2011-11-15 15:45

      Dude when we went after Hansie he faced the music and appologised, I forgive him and SA cricket moved on while the rest of the world protected there boys Aussies are first on my mind. If we are all perfect then throw that stone but like most would rather move on. RIP Hansie nobody can take you ability and leadership away an will later be known for what cricket you played instead of the small corruptions people know you for now.

      Dane - 2011-11-15 16:16

      George uhm did you even watch the news back then? people gathered at his hearing pleading that he should stay captain and be forgiven...

      Winsome - 2011-11-15 18:15

      Lucas, others were also caught in the match fixing scandal - like the arrogant Shane Warne; but he was never kicked out of his team and made out to be the biggest villain ever - like Hansie was. Fingers were pointed at Hansie and he was publicly humiliated; yes, he did wrong - but the punishment was too harsh. He was a fantastic cricketer and I remember him fondly. He covered up for many more who walked away unharmed.

      Burtfred - 2011-11-15 22:46

      Oh Lucas, you misgiuded little Lions supporter. Enjoy the cup this year and your hero Hansie, you won't be seeing them again for some time.

  • David - 2011-11-15 13:18

    he was no loss to SA cricket we had much better before him and will have much better after him He coverd for nobody and I have no respect for crooks especcially if they are the captian of the team

      Rosemarie - 2011-11-15 13:52

      Those who have no sins!!! "Cast the first stone"

      Dwerg - 2011-11-15 14:21

      @ David - In an interview with Sachin Tendulkar the question was posed "who has been the most difficult bowler you ever had to face" His answer (without missing a beat) - "Hansie Cronje. Honestly. I got out to Hansie more than anyone ... I never knew what to do with him" For reference - Saw the interview about a year ago - STFU

      Fred - 2011-11-15 15:43

      Well said David. All these thumbs down are for people who still support the scumbag because he was a born again xian. They still perceive Hansie, scumbag, fraudster and crook as a shining example of Xian moraltry.

  • Brendan - 2011-11-15 13:19

    cant they issue out birth controls instead??

  • Sean - 2011-11-15 13:26

    Delhi Police’s crime branch<<<<< Really!?!?

  • christopher.lourens - 2011-11-15 13:33

    There has been no better captain since Hansie, like it or not has was very good at what he did. I am so sick and tired of everyone that jumps on the match fixing band wagon when his name is mentioned. What about Warne and the Waugh brothers? They were slapped on the wrist for spot fixing as well, but no one has anything to say about that! Typical South African mentality, nobody can stick together in this country. Hansie was guilty of spot fixes, you can really 'throw' a game if you don't have the whole team behind the plan. Yes, I was disappointed in Hansie's decisions. However, you can't take away the fact that as captain, nobody has done a better job since he left.

      george.traut - 2011-11-15 13:44

      Show me a South African that has a good word to say about Shane Warne and Mark Waugh and I'll show you a prick. Hansie wanted to influence the match while Shane and Mark only gave out pitch and weather information. I couldn't care less about Warne and Waugh. Yes, they were both brilliant, but they cheated and they are Australian. Hansie on the other hand is a South African. We don't treat him the same as other guys, because he is one of us! He isn't an Australian or a Pakistani. He was our captain and disappointed us in the worst possible way. Even the pathetic Pollock was a better captain in that regard.

      Linda - 2011-11-15 13:45

      I fully agree with you, couldn't have said it better. Just wish they would leave him in peace now, there is nothing else that can be taken from him, he paid the ultimate price which was extremely sad to all cricket fans.

      michelleolivier84 - 2011-11-15 15:20

      Jeez George, forget to take your happy pills this morning? Why verbally bash a man who isn't here to defend himself? He admitted his mistakes and paid for them. He already faced judgement for his actions – it’s not up to us to do that!

      Shoosh - 2011-11-15 15:49

      @george.traut it would appear that your daddy has given you permission to use his bandwidth whilst he is at work. Grow up laaitie.

      Fred - 2011-11-15 15:49

      @michelleolivier84 No he was never properly judged for defrauding his team and South Africa. He was a criminal and should be in an Indian jail serving time,.

      michelleolivier84 - 2011-11-15 16:32

      @Fred - So ok, he died before any formal criminal charges could be made against him, but as far as I can remember, he did receive a lifelong ban from cricket for his actions (Correct me if I’m wrong). I'm not saying what he did was right, but the man is dead now, so I feel people should leave him alone now. Bringing up the past isn’t going to fix what happened.

  • Rosemarie - 2011-11-15 13:45

    Leave Hansie alone, let him rest in peace!!! God forgives and only He knows what happened, so who are we not to forgive!!!!!

      Bertverlinde - 2011-11-16 07:52

      Rosemarie, please shut up. And leave your religious justifications for yourself. Your arguments are pathetic.

  • Yolande - 2011-11-15 13:58

    Hansie did not fix any matches!!!! He did supply the bookmakers with information and he did receive money for doing so. He will always be my hero !!

      Inky - 2011-11-15 16:03

      You should do a bit more research before you comment. Hansie fixed plenty of matches and influenced his own players to throw matches. If this new investigation is thorough it could uncover more corruption than any of us dreamed of. He was rotten to the core and did this while wearing our flag over his heart which could be called the actions of a traitor!

  • aidan.w.naude - 2011-11-15 13:59

    Seems you have nothing else to report - so you bring up the past and try stir things up , a message to all those who slag Hansie off - if you have been perfect all your life , then by all means judge - what he did was not right , but there are other Tokens that got of Scott free , at least Pakistan and World Cricket convicted all those involved which makes us Hypocrites. Hansie was no saint , he did apologize and take responsibility - he died for his sins in Isolation from the game he loved - that is enough punishment for me and many others - a loss to world cricket which ever way you want to see it. But please be more respectful to his family and shut your mouths about a man who is DEAD.

  • Deon - 2011-11-15 14:06

    It will be a bit difficult with Hansie being dead. This reminds me of an e mail where I "won" something yesterday where they asked me in the e mail: "Are you dead or alive?... then claim your prize"

  • Rabin - 2011-11-15 14:12

    Hmmm. Pause for thought. What happens if this inquiry actually exonerates Cronje? Will all the self richeous hypocrites such as Bacher et al who pilloried him and (in my opinion) ultimately lead him to his death by reducing him to the level where he had to hitch a ride on a cargo aircraft to get home to George, ever be able to justify their actions? I think not. Waugh and Warne did much the same and they were 'protected' by the Australian Cricket Board. The same cannot be said for Hansie Cronje. The self-same cricket board that should have come to his support simply threw him out like a dog to the slaughter. My prayer is that his actions (whatever they were) will be found not to have been that serious and that he can rest in peace with some honour restored to his name.

  • marceldp - 2011-11-15 14:16

    Will always have the greatest respect for Hansie. George, I suggest you read his book or watch the movie. Small mistakes (making a bit of money dishonestly) sometimes have the greatest consequences (getting completely sucked into it, with the wrong people having a grip on you). When the whole mess surfaced he admitted and showed regret. He got caught...sure there are many other greats that got away with this same kind of thing. I see the way he handled it as a great testimony.

  • David - 2011-11-15 14:17

    Can the man not rest in peace. He has passed on and his family have moved on. The man is a hero. Leave him be to rest in peace. Trust the Indians to re-open the dammed case again. He is DEAD you bunch of dimwits. How about we start digging into the cheating and crap history of India and make them look like complete fools. They have plenty to hide. Leave Hansie out of this. He is gone.

      Caleb - 2011-11-15 15:55

      Or even get the case down at CSA solved. Leave Hansie alone! Solve the ongoing problems at CSA

  • Caleb - 2011-11-15 14:19

    Hansie! is ja! Now this is the best captain SA ever had! despite his short comings... Hansie is a legend! :)

      Fred - 2011-11-15 15:57

      and an enormous cook who cheated his teammates and South Africa.

      Caleb - 2011-11-15 16:28

      Nope! Who are you to cast a stone? He is a legend and people can say what, He is the only captain to lead us to a semi final!

      Caleb - 2011-11-16 08:22

      People can say what, Hansie is a legend! and Zimbabwe back in the day was quite a force back then.

  • yazeed.khan1 - 2011-11-15 15:35

    Hansie was a crook just like Salman Butt. Nothing more than a commom CROOK , who stole from his COUNTRY. He should gone to jail too ?? His in HELL dacing with the DEVIL - "the devil made me do it" hahahahahah

      Yolande - 2011-11-15 16:33

      Just a reminder that GOD will judge you with the same messure you judge with.

      Heiku - 2011-11-15 17:25

      Yolande: If that is the case I can then go and murder and rape hundreds of people but just never judge anyone negatively and i will be judged positively by god? Please think before saying stupid things. It may well come in handy.

      Fred - 2011-11-16 03:59

      @Yolande BWHAHAHAHAHA! What a poor deluded soul you are. If your god really existed, "Go to hell" would be a compliment.

  • moritlha - 2011-11-15 15:46

    What if Hansie Cronje is not dead and he faked his death to avoid being convicted. Just saying.

      Burtfred - 2011-11-15 22:40

      Moritlha - you are a dumb twit. Just saying.

  • Moss - 2011-11-15 15:55

    History always remembers what you did last!!

  • Shirley - 2011-11-15 16:21

    Why only now? After Hansie took the fall for a lot of others? This could be a pandoras box,leading to a very ugly future in the sport of cricket. Too little,too late. For all those with the "never forgive" attitude-he was still a brilliant cricketer and money and temptation are sometimes stronger than the human conscience. If you have never erred in your life then you may judge him!

  • Dane - 2011-11-15 16:23

    Dam alot of trolls on hear, dam they probily didnt watch news back then because they got there facts wrong... Hansie!!! wat a legend and my hero. YEA i said it, i meant it and im hear to represent it.

  • Gcwabe.KaMavovo - 2011-11-15 16:24

    South Africans scream about the the corrupt state of our nation on a daily basis, but it seems like many are choosing to look past Hansie's own corrupt ways.

      Shirley - 2011-11-15 16:36

      Difference is he was punished severely for it,took it and ealt with it. CAN you say the same about modern day corruption? No one is looking past anything,stop trying to make this a racially political issue!

      Yolande - 2011-11-15 16:36

      Corrupt I dont know but I am choosing to forgive him. He is my captain!

      Naomi - 2011-11-15 16:41

      My word can't these people let his soul rest in peace. He paid the price and it cost him his life so i think people must stop judging someone that cannot defend himself, he is dead 9 years. Who are you all to judge him , can you afford to point fingers to a dead man.

      adrien.mcguire - 2011-11-15 20:00

      And Hitler is dead too !!

      Gcwabe.KaMavovo - 2011-11-16 08:32

      @Shirley. What a laugh. Did I mention race? Is it not you who's insinuating that I'm racist?

  • Trevor - 2011-11-15 18:38

    WOW...all these South Africans that are so apologised...and I can bet that most of you would sing a totally different tune with regards to him...mmm....I agree, give this story a old news, move on......

  • Shoe - 2011-11-15 18:49

    If Hansie Cronje is forgiven by some, and even considerd the best Captain ever, then it stands to reason that Msholozi was forgiven and elected president of the country. Whats good for the goose is also good for the ganda.

      Dmitri - 2011-11-15 19:27

      Hansie is dead, Che is dead, Hitler is dead, Verwoerd is dead, Woolmer is dead, Malema is...oh no (Sorry, could not resist). Bottom line, what is done is done, what will be will be. You cannot change the past, but you can shape the future.

      Burtfred - 2011-11-15 22:43

      What the f*** is a ganda? Is it a country in Africa, or maybe something that you find inside your nose? I'm stumped.

  • laurencepiper - 2011-11-15 22:39

    best captain money could buy

  • Grant - 2011-11-16 01:00

    The saying goes that it is only a crime if you get caught. Hansie accepted money for match fixing but I wonder if he was set up by rival bookies. There is coruption in all sports. I bet one day bafana bafana will be bribed to win a match.

  • Sue - 2011-11-16 01:52

    For heavens sake, the man is long dead, buried and gone. Some younger cricket fans won't even remember who Hansie was. Leave the man alone and get over yourselves.

  • Phil - 2011-11-16 02:38

    I think some of the dimbulbs who have commented on this article should take the time to READ it before they open their mouths. Hansie has passed on ..he has paid for his crimes. Nobody is re-investigating Hansie Cronje .............the case that Hansie was involved in is being re-opened. This may mean that many people that previously escaped paying the price that Cronje did .....could get caught and convicted. That is surely a GOOD thing ...isn't it ?

  • Zion - 2011-11-16 05:50

    Is it not time for the Hansie ghost to be laid to rest? Hansie is not here to defend himself and all and sundry will take advantage of his absence to manipulate their innocence at the expense of Hansie. Would it not be part of the Christian values system to consider the pain this revisal will be placing on the family. Hansie has paid the ultimate price now he should be left to rest in peace. Despite his failings he IS a great man. Hansie my man Rest in Peace.

      Phil - 2011-11-16 07:25

      Zion , there are bigger issues here than Hansie Cronje....and this is stuff all to do with Christian values. It appears that there are other people that were involved in match fixing that have go off scot free ............don't you want those people to get caught? This is NOT about Hansie Cronje.

      adrien.mcguire - 2011-11-16 17:45

      @ Zion hansie did not pay the ultimate price, he was banned from cricket. He was killed in a flying accident, the two are not related

  • sudika.harkhu - 2011-11-16 06:06

    Hansie was a cheat and probably this is where the choker mentality set in with the Proteas..he engineered their losses in seemingly winning positions..........anyways he did ask for forgiveness and he is dead now so that's that. The saddest part of it all is that of all the cricketing captains we have had, he was probably the most skilled and most intelligent. His batting (esp. against spin), fielding and running between the wickets were phenomenal, and his support bowling was very effective. Its a tragedy that his character could not match up to his skills.

      adrien.mcguire - 2011-11-16 17:46

      Well said, a balanced view.

  • johann.botha - 2011-11-16 07:34

    Just get the facts about Hansie's situation. He never "threw" a game or lost deliberately. He only share insignificant information to the bookies (i.e batsmen orders etc.) Hansie was and always will be the best captain and sportsman this country ever had!

  • Preshen - 2011-11-16 07:47

    bin laden was pissed off with Hansie he said I told you to crash into George Bush and not a Bush in George

  • Stuart - 2011-11-16 08:17

    Amazing here we have an article on the Hansie case being re-opened and at the bottom of the page you have an advert for odds on the SA vs Australia game. Is that not how the whole problem started in the the first place?

  • Stuart - 2011-11-16 08:19

    I find it amazing. Here is an article stating that the Hansie case is going to be re-opened and at the foot of the page is an advert for online sports betting. Is that not what started the problem in the first place?

  • Bianca - 2011-11-16 08:49

    Hansie never threw a game, NEVER!!!! They always gave 100%..... He did do wrong, and he paid for ti dearly, with his LIFE!!!! He was is and always will be my HERO and the best Captain this country has ever seen.... His work ethic and team management are unrivaled!!! All the other guys who were also involved got away, because Hansie was not a grass!!!!! Warne and Waugh, Alec Stewart all went on to have very long and lucrative careers, never mind all the other guys that were never mentioned.... This is bigger than anyone can imagine!!! Maybe now the truth, or some of it will come out!!!! I met Hansie and he was truly amazing and incredibly humble after the whole incident and I believe he should be forgiven.. I know I have, a long time ago!!!! Hansie may you now finally rest in peace!!!

      Pramesh - 2011-11-16 10:47

      @ Johaan.Botha and Bianca, Hansie, along with Gibbs and Henry Williams accepted money to underperform in a match against India. That was the one match they got caught. Who knows how many other matches, they fixed where they underperformed, that we the SA public don't know about. Look on youtube for a BBC documentary on Hansie and the match fixing scandal and read the transcripts on the trial of Hansie and the match fixing scandal. Hansie even cheated Gibbs and Williams, they were both going to receive $15,000 to underform but Cronje only gave them $10,000 and kept the rest for himself. When the no-ball scandal first appeared, I though it was unlikely that people could make money of something as arbitary as a no-ball. But now 3 players are imprisoned and now players can be fearful of accepting money from bookies. So let the investigation be re-opened, let the corrupt players start to panic. It's a better alternative then watching a sporting match where the result has already been determined by players ready to sell out their team. Then WE all might as well watch WWE on

      adrien.mcguire - 2011-11-16 17:50

      @ Bianca, he did not pay for his corruption with his life. He was killed in a flying accident. You make it sound as if he was executed. That is not correct and you should get your facts right.

  • Clayton - 2011-11-16 08:54

    He was the excape code for the whole cricketing world, he is still the best player captain ever.

  • jock.vanwyk1 - 2011-11-16 09:24

    as long as India and Pakistan are playing cricket there will be match fixing in cricket,

  • chanzas - 2011-11-16 10:53

    Why can't they just let his soul rest in peace, didn't he suffer enough when he died in that plane crash.

  • werner.smidt - 2011-11-16 11:48

    Hey, pots . . you guys are black too ;-)

  • Andrie - 2011-11-17 05:56

    How can you admire a criminal?

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