SA duo achieve career best

2011-02-28 10:42

Cape Town - Dale Steyn (4th for bowling) and JP Duminy (15th for batting) have achieved career best rankings on the ICC Reliance Mobile ODI ratings following their outstanding performances in the Proteas’ opening World Cup victory against the West Indies.

The Proteas have also jumped one place in the team ratings to No. 3, overtaking Sri Lanka following the latter’s defeat to Pakistan.

The Proteas are now 1 point behind second-placed India who in turn trail log leaders Australia by 12.

Hashim Amla and AB de Villiers remain the No. 1 and No. 2 ranked batsmen but De Villiers no longer has to share his position with India’s Virat Kohli who has dropped down to No. 3.

Jacques Kallis (14th) and Duminy and Graeme Smith (joint 15th) are the other Proteas in the top 20.

The Proteas remain well ranked in the bowling with Morne Morkel at No. 2, just 6 points behind New Zealand’s Daniel Vettori.

Steyn is at No. 4, 2 points behind Zimbabwe’s Ray Price and 1 ahead of Australia’s Mitchell Johnson.

Lonwabo Tsotsobe remains in 10th place.

Kallis is ranked No. 4 among the top all-rounders.



  • stax - 2011-02-28 11:30

    My question is how will this aasist us in winning the world cup is the boys is so likely rank high almost in all departments in the world.its like we represent the world but our games does not show that.But i believe lets see maybe this time round we will pull this one off.

      Tsvi Shain - 2011-02-28 12:28

      yeah i agree the rankings make very nice reading...but i hope they can do really well, win the world cup!

  • Vegas - 2011-02-28 11:35

    Give Steyntjie and Morkel till after the World Cup to take the No 2 and No 3 spots respectively. Probably the best pace combination South Africa has ever had!!! Go boytjies!!!

      tshepotheterminator - 2011-02-28 11:54

      wait till you see the black express tsotsobe..... he is far better than morkel...

      Lord Haw-Haw - 2011-02-28 12:13

      @racist a hole thsepo, express I dont think so

      Jaco - 2011-02-28 12:16

      Lonwabo is a class bowler, given his performance vs India. But Morkel has been at top form (ODI's) for the last year as it shows with his no 2 ranking. Morkel and Steyn provide one fearsome seam attack! Tsotsobe I am sure will still have a say in this World Cup!

      Licikityspit - 2011-02-28 13:45

      They not quite Alan Donald and Brett Schultz ( the best, and most feared opening attack since isolation) but they good and will be among our "greats" oneday. If the manage to win a CWC well then they will be the best of all time

  • seeps.mazi - 2011-02-28 11:36

    Steyn should eventually become world number one in both formats of the game. He is still only 27 and his action is so smooth and athletic that he should still be up in the late 140'sKPH at the age of 35 or so as Brett Lee is still doing. Good on you Steyn and well done JP nice work

  • HueyPNewton - 2011-02-28 11:41

    Who cares about rankings?? They wont deliver when it really matters. SAfrican players like Pollock, Donald, Kallis, Boucher etc have always dominated the rankings, but CHOKED when it mattered.

      HellRaiser - 2011-02-28 11:50

      Thanks for that... wierdo.

      Graham - 2011-02-28 11:54

      That chokers tag is getting old. It's the nature of the beast. No team would choose to face SA in a final at any level. Lets hope we make it this time...

      flowingr77 - 2011-02-28 11:56


      flowingr77 - 2011-02-28 12:01

      @graham, thats if they made it to any

      HueyPNewton - 2011-02-28 12:04

      @Graham. Only 6 teams have a realistic chance of winning this CWC: Aus, SLanka, Pak, India, Eng, SAfrica. If you were one of the teams, except SA, who would you prefer to face in the final from the other 5.

      Lord Haw-Haw - 2011-02-28 12:15

      @HueyPNewton and @flowingr77, havent you two teabaggers got anything better and original to say. Why do you read these articles obviously you have chips on your shoulder, how dumb are you two

      HellRaiser - 2011-02-28 12:35

      Pakistan - obviously - they are the worst team of the six. @flowingr77 - i was never talking to you. I generally don't bother with hideous trolls such as yourself.

      HueyPNewton - 2011-02-28 12:38

      @Lord Haw-Haw. It wouldn't hurt so much if it weren't true, would it? The CHOKER tag has been well earned and this world cup will further confirm it. Insulting people for using that term won't change anything. Your team needs to start winning major competitions and stop moaning about being called CHOKERS.

      HellRaiser - 2011-02-28 12:48

      @HueyPNewton - i am interested to know how you think the tag has been earned? Teams lose games. That does not mean they have choked? The whole thing only came about because of the Klusner / Donald farce. The assuies jumped on that and since we haven't won a world cup it has stuck around. No one has wone a world cup since then besides the Aussies - i guess everyone choked on that Aussie team - you know the one with Mcgrath and Warne. Add on to that the fact that we have only played half as many world cups as the rest of the world and i am confused as to where exactly we earned the tag? Maybe you can point it out??

      flowingr77 - 2011-02-28 12:49

      It is a legacy of apartheid that SA cric cant win world cup, thats wat they shud blame it on.

      James - 2011-02-28 12:49

      I agree with you Huey. South Africa need to walk the walk and show us with winning. Talking is just talking.

      HueyPNewton - 2011-02-28 12:51

      @HellRaiser. Agree Pakistan is the lowest ranked and worst performing in that list. But as I mentioned earlier rankings are useless. I'm talking about a once-off high pressure knockout match. Who would you rather face?? Who is the most likely to crumble??

      James - 2011-02-28 12:51

      Hellraiser, you have a very valid point. I must concur with you.

      HueyPNewton - 2011-02-28 13:11

      @HellRaiser. WC 92,96,99, 03, 07. Twenty20 07, 09, 10. Chamions Trophy 02, 04, 06, 09. And the fact that they went into almost every one of those tournaments ranked 2nd or 1st, but went on to lose to teams like Zim, Bangladesh, NZ etc.

      HellRaiser - 2011-02-28 13:24

      No one cares about the champions trophy - which we have actually won , or 20 / 20 (a game that is better left to under 10's who can't get through a whole day of cricket). I can assure you that South Africa is the last team any of the others want to face. Be it in the final, semi's or group stages, We have the best team who have shown their mettle in Aus, England and the sub continent over and over in the last few years. We are probably the only team in the world that can perform consistently home or away at the moment. This team has 11 players who have never been to a world cup. THIS team has never choked. The other one did - once - and even then it was just two players involved - and a tied game. Don't bother to include 20/20's in a cricket discussion. It weakens your argument.

      HueyPNewton - 2011-02-28 13:42

      @HellRaiser. Plenty of people care about 20/20. Actually even more than Test cricket. India, England and Aus are the only countries were people still attend tests. Its only a matter of time before before its scrapped altogether. 20/20 is the future. "We have the best team". So, will you consider it a choke if they exit early yet again??

      HellRaiser - 2011-02-28 13:50

      No i wouldn't - it seems like you don't understand the word "choke". I would call it a choke if we were cruizing to victory and then lost - but if we were well beaten by a better team ON THE DAY, then that is called losing a match not choking. You need to get a clue mate, only people, like young girls, that have never played cricket prefer 20 / 20 to actual games.

      HueyPNewton - 2011-02-28 13:58

      @HellRaiser . My definition of Choker is: A team that is NEVER "the better team ON THE DAY" in crunch matches. Those young people who prefer 20/20 are the future fans, players and administrators of the game which spells doom for test cricket.

      as06777 - 2011-02-28 14:41

      @HueyPNewton. I'm so glad i'm not one of the other teams in the world. To rely on South Africa to choke so you can win a tournament must really be so crap. Your ability and performance counts for nothing. I can only imagine every team at the CWC praying every night for the SA team to choke so they can stand a chance of winning. HAHA!!! What a joker without any cricket knowledge you are.

      Smallz - 2011-02-28 15:24

      Huey is so right. Remember that this kind of "chokers" tag is not only about cricket and you need to make these comparions in sport. New Zealand are number 1 in the World in rugby but yet have not won a World Cup since the very 1st one. They are rightfully called "chokers" even though they clean Bledisloe and 3 Nations cup every year. Brazil lose on the day against Netherlands last year WC quarter finals but nobody calls them chokers. Thats because they consistently in the top nations of FIFA rankings but also tend to scoop the World Cup more often than most. South Africa in ODI cups never seem to get anything (except the Champions trophy that one time) and yet they consistently on number 1 and 2 in terms of rankings. If we can call New Zealand chokers (who still win other cups), we can definately call South African ODI teams chokers!

  • Nathan - 2011-02-28 12:14

    Kallis ranked No. 4 among the top all-rounders? I thought he was number 1.

      Zolani - 2011-02-28 12:39


      James - 2011-02-28 12:43

      Nathan, Kallis is ranked #1 as Test Allrounder, however he is ranked as #4 as ODI Allrounder. :) That is what they mean.

      HueyPNewton - 2011-02-28 12:54

      Kallis is NOT the best allrounder in the world. I'd rather have a match-winner like Afridi, Watson etc

      James - 2011-02-28 13:05

      @Huey. As an ODI allrounder, I agree, he is not the best in the world. However, as a test player, there is no-one quite like him. Although, you have to admit that Kallis' bowling is not as good as it used to be.

      Zolani - 2011-02-28 15:48

      Ryan Tendoeschate is ranked number 1, but that’s a technicality in the 2006 Intercontinental Cup by hitting an unbeaten 259 against Canada and finished with the extraordinary average of 228.66. He also finished as the ' leading wicket taker in the tournament. By numbers alone, he is the best ODI all-rounder in the game.

      Zolani - 2011-02-28 16:03

      Ok my info is a bit old now , that he has got out twice now, 1 Shakib Al Hasan BAN 2 S.R. Watson AUS 3 Shahid Afridi PAK 4 J.H. Kallis SA 5 R.N. ten Doeschate NET 6 D.L. Vettori NZ 7 P.D. Collingwood ENG 8 Yuvraj Singh IND 9 J.D.P. Oram NZ 10 C.H. Gayle

      No Good - 2011-02-28 23:28

      Kallis more of a batsman than an allrounder 2 me

  • LouBal - 2011-02-28 12:15

    It is actually ok that Kallis didn't feature to heavilly in the first game (don't get me wrong, I always love it when he get runs) but this would mean that for the rest of the CWC the thought would not be (as in recent past) "If Kallis doesn't bat through the team is dead" It would be nice to see Kallis come in at 150 for/2 with say 20 to 25 overs to go...

  • Dan - 2011-02-28 12:27

    These rating are bullshit. Do you want to tell me Ray Price is a better bowler than Dale Steyn or any of the other ±80 top bowlers in world cricket. Come on please!!!

      James - 2011-02-28 12:46

      Actually, according to recent results and the match that Zimbabwe is currently playing, Ray Price has been performing much better than most bowlers! Just because he plays for Zimbabwe doesn't mean that he cannot be ranked above the best in the world. As long as Ray Price is performing well (like in todays match), he certainly deserves to right up there!

      Dan - 2011-02-28 12:50

      @ James. Unfortunately the rankings don't take the level of oposition into account. ZIM plays 20% of their games against to nations while top nations on the other hand maybe only play 10% of their games against the waek links. Let me put it quite bluntly: Ray Price is not a top bowler in any shape or form.

      James - 2011-02-28 13:03

      Hi Dan, you have a good point, but that does not matter. Ray Price has performed well against even the best sides. You have to admit, though, that Ray Price is a good bowler, not necessarily the best in the world, but really good.

      Ryanbrew - 2011-02-28 13:09

      @DAN - Actually the rankings do take into account the opposition as well as the nature of the track, if the track played on is a turner, Ray Price would get less points (as he is a spinner) than say Steyn would for each wicket that they took on the same wicket.

  • HueyPNewton - 2011-02-28 13:30

    While other teams are counting medals and titles the Chokers are counting rankings. Pathetic.

      HellRaiser - 2011-02-28 13:56

      I think you might find it is a sports reporter and not the actual team that wrote this article...

      HueyPNewton - 2011-02-28 14:16

      @HellRaiser . You'll find that this mindset is not confined to reporters only. Its the same with the players and fans. This culture of celebrating rankings. In other countries, no one cares about such things. It's all about delivering when it matters. Guys like Afridi, Pollard, Sehwag will never top the rankings but I'd rather have one of them in my team than Jacques Kallis.

      as06777 - 2011-02-28 14:47

      If you want to see real chokers have a look at the England team. 9 world cups. no wins. The ashes are more important to them. At least there they have a 50/50 chance of winning.

      HueyPNewton - 2011-02-28 15:50

      @as06777 . Well, England are the reigning Twenty20 World Cup Champions.

  • Earlyrayz - 2011-02-28 13:36

    Rankings does not matter, its on the field where it matters, SA has a good change of winning this one. As for the bowlers the pitches are not made for pace therefore the fast bowlers must work extra hard for their wickets. Their line and lengths must be spot on. lonwabo is a 2 out of six bolwer therefore i will stay with the same attack as the first game possibly throughout the tornament.

      No Good - 2011-02-28 23:31

      You suck!

  • juan4280 - 2011-02-28 14:35

    guys, stop digging Kallis. He may not be a tendulkar orsehwag or gayle, he is definately a winner in his own right. time for his teammates to get off their a-holes. it really is time Sa win this. Best balanced team in WC is either: South Africa , England or Pakistan. fact. they may not be the favourite (india) , but this is a blessing in disguise. Any team that can't defend 350 is in big k@k. Poor tendualkar, he realy plays with underacheiving bowlers around him.

  • Lord Haw-Haw - 2011-02-28 14:46

    @HueyPNewton, all you do is insult so shut it moron

      HueyPNewton - 2011-02-28 15:07

      please kindly quote me; where exactly have I insulted you or anyone else for that matter. Unlike you, I deal with facts not name calling. Unlike you, I never use words like "moron", "teabagger", "a hole", "dumb".

  • Claude - 2011-03-01 04:47

    There is plenty of rubbish written about both rankings and players in these comments. South Africa have the team and squad that they have and they will do the best they can to win. If you are South African support the Proteas whatever. If you don't agree with the selection don't whinge about what should or should not be - wait for the results.

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