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Philander No 1 Test all-rounder

2014-03-06 19:34

Cape Town - South Africa's Vernon Philander has become the No 1-ranked all-rounder on the ICC player rankings for Test all-rounders.

As it happened: SA v Oz Day 5

Philander has markedly improved his batting in the last while and almost helped South Africa claim a famous draw on the final day of the third Test against Australia at Newlands on Wednesday.

He scored 51 not out as the Proteas lost by 245 runs to surrender the series 2-1. South Africa lost their last wicket with 4.3 overs to go - falling just short of would have been a remarkable draw.

Philander, who also scored 37 in South Africa's first innings, has moved up two places to the top of the all-rounders’ table, pushing India's Ravichandran Ashwin to second. Philander is now on 376 ratings points, three ahead of Ashwin.

Despite his heroics with the bat, Philander moved down the bowling rankings.

He picked up just one wicket in the Newlands Test and subsequently moved down a place to third, with Australia's Ryan Harris, who ended with a match haul of seven for 95, moving up two places to a best-ever second position.

Click to see a full list of ICC player rankings and all-rounder rankings.

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Comments
  • Hero-Gorha Madikizela - 2014-03-06 19:40

    Congratulations Vernon. He is becoming a better batsman every game he plays...

      chris.re2 - 2014-03-06 20:55

      What a gem

      Ken Alles - 2014-03-06 21:59

      Congrats, But just think of this.. No1 Bowler, No1 Batsman and No1 Allrounder not to mention No2 Batsman in the World, Yet we manage to loose to a team who is ranked 3rd in the World? Makes you think hey...

      Clinton Tupper - 2014-03-07 01:05

      Well done Vern. Wouldn't be a bad idea to drop duminy. Shift Vern 1 spot up the batting order and then add another bowler.

      Ken Alles - 2014-03-07 03:22

      @Clinton.. exactly what i said (scroll down), but our other bowlers let us down. So he can't really focus on his batting as he need to work on his bowling to keep us in the Game...

  • Baainaar Hofman - 2014-03-06 19:41

    Well done big vern!He can be the perfect all rounder but wit quota morkel not taking responsibility and steyn thats forever faking injuries its too much on the big guy's shoulders.

      Louis - 2014-03-06 21:23

      hel nou verstaan ek die eerste keer hoekom Luke Watson op sy truitjie wou braak! Hy is 'n baainaar!

      Avon Asac - 2014-03-07 07:11

      Baainaar , Philnaders batting average has climbed but as was the worry when we gave him the All-rounder role this series , his bowling average was 51.7 BIG WORRY. I think Steyn's average was 26.

      Danie van Rooyen - 2014-03-07 07:58

      baainaar hofman. Any team are bound to loose a game. firts series defeat in 5 years, and that makes you give stupid negative comments? grow up. Proteas have made us proud for so long regarding test cricket. Appreciate it.

  • Craig 'Jumbo' Edmondson - 2014-03-06 19:47

    Now why doesn't that surprise me, so why are we trying to make Duminy our all-rounder?

      Ken Alles - 2014-03-06 22:06

      Craig that is a great Question... JPD should have been Dropped a while ago. Some1 compared his avg to that of Hansie Cronje the other day. I guess the person forgot that avg in the Hansie ERA was a lot lower than nowadays due to equipment and training techniques that has changed during the time... I would leave Vern at the spot he bat now as he need to work on his bowling as certain bowlers only delivers every odd game. It's a shame because we could move him down and get another bowler in the squad..

      Richard Barnes - 2014-03-07 03:03

      It was me that mentioned Hansie's average. It's true that Hansie played in an earlier era when averages weren't that high. But the difference wasn't that marked. Also, Steve Waugh played at the same time as Hansie. Waugh averaged 51 batting at number 5, Hansie averaged 36 batting at 5. In addition, people always cite Andrew Hudson's average of 33 as evidence of how rubbish he was. Well, I'm pretty sure that Hudson played at the same time, even earlier, than Hansie. If Hudson's average of 33 as an opener made him so useless, why did Hansie's average of 36 batting at number five make him so great? If Hansie can be forgiven his average because people still played in knickerbockers and hobnail boots on uncovered pitches in his day, and teams traveled to tour overseas on ancient steam ships because aeroplanes hadn't been invented yet, then surely Hudson can be forgiven as well?

      Ken Alles - 2014-03-07 03:11

      I agree with you Richard. Andrew Hudson on the Back foot and Pulling was class. We can't compare those average with today. Maybe Hudson could have a better average if he batted with some-one else. At that time i think he was batting with Mark Kirsten and Wessels... Hansie average suffered because of his Captaincy but be honest with yourself JPD should do a lot better than what he is doing. His technique is one in a million yet he fails time and time again...

      Richard Barnes - 2014-03-07 03:24

      I just did a cricinfo search on batting averages of all Test batters between 1 Jan 94 and 31 Dec 99, i.e. the height of Hansie's playing days. Hansie is 53rd on the list. Charismatic bloke, popular leader with his men, decent backup seam bowler - Hansie was all of these things. But a top class batter? Not so much, I'm afraid.

      Richard Barnes - 2014-03-07 03:29

      Sure, I agree that JPD should be better.

      David Tsele - 2014-03-07 10:15

      Having read all comments above, and perhaps clouded by the PE century, I'd rather have Jp's off spinners and his odd 30/40 with the bat than have a specialised spinner(name any in the current setup) who averages pretty much the same with the ball. His conversion to an allrounder had nothing to do with his potential to be a matchwinner bt a "can he do any worse than..."

      David Tsele - 2014-03-07 12:17

      ...Elaborating further on my point I'd have RobbieP in the shorter formats, hell y not play him as a pinch hitter even depending on situation, Immy is all sub continent games, Jp outside the subcontinent in all conditions.

  • Bianca Lottering - 2014-03-06 20:03

    @Tsotsi your comment have some merit. Our under 19 cricket team just won the world cup and there was hardly any waves made about that. I have to question whether the reason for that is because the team was about 50% non white.

      Bianca Lottering - 2014-03-06 20:43

      And you are missing the point of the comment. If the team was mostly white, it would have been a big deal, grade 7 equivalent or not.

      Bianca Lottering - 2014-03-06 20:49

      I am a recently qualified chartered accountant, I happen to be good in the kitchen but so is my boyfriend and I do not watch soaps. Welcome to the 21st century you racist, sexist pig.

      Mike Mthiya - 2014-03-06 21:04

      @King - You dumb fark!come two or so year's time, Markram,the captain of this U19 team will fast-tacked to the senior national team and you know what will be said, "he captained the U19 WC winning team" but come a darkie and the reason for excluding guys like Kagiso who excelled as well with the ball, they will say "Not good enough,it was juniors at U19". A darkie must double the effort of a white person or there must be a huge political up-roar to be included in Proteas.@Bianca - Not to worry about this twit!

      Ken Alles - 2014-03-07 03:18

      What is a Darkie? Some1 that can't play proper cricket? Let's face it, I played provincial School lvl primary and High. Played club cricket and so on. Doesn't matter how well I played and how I excelled in the game I got no-where... My reason and that is just me..; If you don't know the right people and you don't mingle with the right people you will find it hard to get any-where... Nothing to do with color... If they don't smaak you, they don't smaak you...

      Bianca Lottering - 2014-03-07 06:31

      Well Ken, when they don't smaak a bunch of people who have a common characteristic, in this case thats colour, that leads us to believe that its that characteristic that is the problem. Plus, it should never be about who you know but what you know or in this case what you can do. We do not have to accept the current status quo.

      Brolloks En Bittergal - 2014-03-07 10:03

      Besides BLACK people who else care about race??? Until black people stop seeing everything through their racial glasses this country will not come right. :( I don't care about race, just gimme a team that wins. I have yet to hear a white man saying that Beast, Habana or Philander should be replaced by a WHITE man. (They may argue whether they are on form but that has nothing to do with race.) Trust me - I mix with white sports loving people every day. They want the best players for the each team.

      Ken Alles - 2014-03-07 22:22

      Bianca i totally agree with you regarding it's not about who you know but how you play, how-ever i disagree with you on the characteristic. They will have to preform on school level get pulled in to a academy and from there on, get into a provincial side and then get chosen for trails to get into the Proteas squad... and that is where the popo hit the fan... Give it time. The majority of the people you talk about are playing football atm. We could say the same for the other-side as well. I know how many white young players that want to play football but they only get to a certain lvl and then it all goes about who you know, hence the color of our football... There is always two sides and only time will solve that problem..

  • sige.gorabeb - 2014-03-06 20:39

    Ek glo nie in hierie ranking sh$&@t nie. The 'number one' team just got hammered in their backyard. The performance on the day counts.

  • Louis - 2014-03-06 20:41

    Big Vern has a lot of heart! Without even checking I'm pretty sure he must be just behind AB in batting averages for this series. That is guts for a guy who is an absolutely first rate bowler. He puts the top batsmen to shame- even when facing the 2nd new ball.

      Richard Barnes - 2014-03-06 20:51

      Vern's batting average was higher than AB's in this series. Unfortunately, his bowling average (51) was higher than the career Test bowling averages of Michael Clarke, Michael Hussey and Steve Smith. When one of your two main strike bowlers has a higher batting average than your specialist batters, but also a higher bowling average than the opposition's batsmen who bowl part-time spin, then you have problems with both batting and bowling.

      Louis - 2014-03-06 20:54

      ok ok I was wrong...just checked and Vernon is uhhmmmm the SA batsmen with the highest average in the series (Smith is in joint 3/4 last place with McClaren- makes one think doesn't it). No guts- no glory- early retirement- goodbye- hamba!

      Louis - 2014-03-06 20:59

      Anyone noticed that ONLY Haddin (in the whole OZ team) averaged less that Smith...not by far though, Smith 7, Haddin 6. I see Smith reckons "we were outplayed". Speak for yourself boet.

      Richard Barnes - 2014-03-06 21:03

      And yet, just a couple of months ago in the Ashes, Haddin was Aus's saviour with the bat, time after time. Funny old thing that batting form, isn't it? And this is why we keep averages and don't judge players on one series. Because, if we did that, Vern would surely have to be dropped as a bowler. He had an average of 51 in this series, Wayne Parnell had an average of 15. So surely, if we go on form, Parnie should replace Vern in the bowling, and Vern should replace Alviro Petersen in the batting?

      Louis - 2014-03-06 21:19

      Aaah Richard, the voice of reason...allow me to blow of steam man..I am still angry that Smith kicked Lance Klusener out of the team after he was man of the series in a world cup.

      Avon Asac - 2014-03-07 07:17

      Louis I dont think you should worry about him kicking Lance , Smith player a huge part in Ray Jenning not getting selected as coach, I truly believe if he was coach we would have destroyed the Aussies with Aggressive cricket.

  • C-ne Hope - 2014-03-06 20:48

    Wow, The Big Vern

  • Christopher Booise - 2014-03-06 20:49

    Awesome!!! Welll done Vernon!!

  • Straighttalker - 2014-03-06 21:13

    Well done Vernon, bonteheuwel proud if you! You are a starrrr! Keep it like that bro!

  • Zee Komani - 2014-03-06 21:51

    Instead of Faf? I'm happy with him batting well, but Duminy and Faf are genuine batsmen and a lot better than him.

      David Tsele - 2014-03-07 09:55

      Faf a non all rounder, Duminy a makeshift allrounder, a damning indictment of our spin department...

      Alison Bains - 2014-03-07 17:11

      Do u know what an all-rounder is?

  • Bethuel Nkogatse - 2014-03-06 22:41

    well done!

  • Tshepo Thuleli - 2014-03-07 05:25

    Big ups the boy, even though they lost to Os they lost with a fighting spirit not like Bafana.

  • Raymond Kok - 2014-03-07 06:45

    its about time and i hope that his place will be cemented in the side now that the cause of all his problems has retired hopefully to immergrate ti Ireland

  • Brolloks En Bittergal - 2014-03-07 09:52

    I like the man!

  • David Tsele - 2014-03-07 10:31

    Attributes of a good allrounder wen one discipline fails and u make up with another in the same game. Only in SA where one is a particular race first and then an athlete...

      Brolloks En Bittergal - 2014-03-07 10:43

      Disagree. Only black people look at race first. They seem to be obsessed with race. White people DO NOT care about race in sport anymore. I can prove it: 1.) Read the comments here. ONLY black (and brown) people are commenting about Philander's race. 2.) When last did you hear or read of a white man saying that a player of colour should be dropped solely because of his colour?

      David Tsele - 2014-03-07 14:52

      @ Brolloks guess all u did was to elaborate on a point that we both agree on...

      Alison Bains - 2014-03-07 17:09

      He is rated the best in the world, not only in S.A.

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