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Kallis: Smith got no respect

2014-03-05 07:44

Cape Town - South Africa's leading run-scorer in Test cricket, Jacques Kallis, hopes Graeme Smith will get the credit he deserves in retirement, which he did not get from the public during his playing career.

Smith announced his impending retirement from international cricket on Monday evening, and Kallis said it was time he was properly recognised for his achievements.

"He's probably another South African sportsman that hasn't got the credit that I think he deserves," said Kallis at Newlands in Cape Town, on Tuesday.

"Now in his retirement I hope we can give him the due respect he deserves.

"Maybe it's a South African thing where we like keeping our guys down on the ground, criticising them."

Smith will retire from all international cricket on Wednesday upon the completion of the third Test against Australia in Cape Town.

It brings to an end a career of 117 Tests, and 107 as captain for the Proteas.

Smith scored 9265 runs, 27 tons and 38 half-centuries, in Tests at an average of just under 49 with a highest score of 277 against England in Birmingham in 2003.

In One Day Internationals Smith averaged nearly 38, with 10 centuries and 47 fifties and a highest score of 141 against England in the ICC Champions Trophy in 2009.

Kallis said Smith had always shown character in his roles as an opening batsman and captain.

"How I will remember Graeme is him being the man for the tough situation.

"To average around 50 mostly in South African conditions is a hell of an effort."

Retired Proteas player, Shaun Pollock said he knew Smith was a leader from the moment he started playing for the national team.

"Graeme always stood out as a very mature cricket brain even from a young age," said Pollock.

"When he started, people would have thought he was a brash 22-year-old making big statements. He stuck to his guns and it wasn't long before he had two double centuries to his name as captain, and it gave him time to develop as a leader."

Smith was never the most technically correct batsman, but made up for it in other ways said Pollock.

"Technically he wasn't the best you would come across, but from a tenacity point of view, and the number of runs he scored, he was fantastic.

"You don't have to be pretty to be effective, but he was very effective."

Smith was misunderstood, which led to public criticism throughout his career explained Pollock.

"It was never about Graeme Smith's legacy, it was always about what he felt was right for the team. It was misinterpreted in the early stages of his career.

"We're a very passionate sporting nation. It's our team when we're winning, and it's Graeme's team when we're losing."

Cricket South Africa (CSA) chief executive Haroon Lorgat, said there would have to be a process followed in choosing a new captain for the Test team.

"There's a bit of time and it's something the selectors will have to deal with. I don't want to pre-empt anything at this stage," Lorgat said.

"We're fortunate there's a T20 series to follow and we've already got an established captain."

AB de Villiers is the current Test vice-captain and also leads in ODIs, while Faf du Plessis is the T20 captain, but Lorgat would not say if either were a favourite to take over from Smith.

Lorgat said it was fitting for Smith to end his career at Newlands, where he had started for the Proteas in 2002.

"Sometimes lady luck smiles on people's careers. Saying goodbye at Newlands was an apt end to his formidable career.

"It always comes as a surprise when somebody as big and as great as Graeme calls it time.

"It wasn't unexpected. We thought it would be sooner rather than later he would call time."

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Comments
  • Dyecha - 2014-03-05 07:50

    Maybe he should have played better and got better scores

      Gary Guy - 2014-03-05 08:04

      I guess you have never bothered to go to Cricinfo and look up scores and averages... but then again, you don't expect anything logical from a person who is prejudiced. I guess if he averaged 100, you would say that you did not like his hair style.

      StewMcGill - 2014-03-05 08:19

      Dyecha you are an idiot, you pretty much sum up most of South African "fair weather" supporters who know JACK SH@$ about cricket and have a piss poor memory or grasp of stats!!!! Peoples response towards Graeme over his illustrious career make sick!

      Christo Botha - 2014-03-05 08:38

      Its really very sad to see somebody, obviously knowing smuckol about Cricket, leading the Criticism, for one of the best Test Captains ever! Why do you think we have been the number 1 Test Team for so long??? Most Hundreds as a Test Captain, ETC. Try Reading Stats and Facts before you criticize.

      Paul Mark Maarman - 2014-03-05 08:56

      Spot in King Kallis...our sportsman never get the credit they deserve...Biff is one of the great test captains of all times, if he was any other nationality, he would be celebrated for all his accomplishments...but good old SA, we keep our greats down, while the rest of the world celebrate them..reveals a bit of our national psyche.

      UNITY - 2014-03-05 09:08

      We became the no.1 test team, because we found the right mix of players, that could perform and take the game away from the oponent. Smith was a good captain and had " endless opportunities" to win or fail, make decisions and live with them.Somehow there's too much gripe being made of it, and biasness and one has to wonder if there we players like a KP in the proteas squad,that lived on a career whatever the outcome. Great players like Steve Waugh ended on many highs, winning tests and world cups! All formats count, its cricket, not selective cricket, else why does Kallis indulge in IPL or want to play in the ODI world cup ? For the money? Don't attack , respect starts with choice, like the choice of when a captain chooses to step down, because he knows he is not contributing to teams performance. Pontings career ended with the Proteas.Smiths with OZ. Why didn't Kallis retire at newlands? Fans are just emotional,with our backs to the wall, everyone knows this is an important test.No one likes to lose, and even Oz fans or english fans are any different!!!

      Eduard Homes - 2014-03-05 09:15

      I actually agree with Dyecha. From the start he scored big runs and then he declined. FACT. Also, he would have had my respect, if he(as a young captain) did not go public(CNN) with negative comments on Lance Klusener (the guy that almost brought the world cup to SA)

      Daniel Wessels - 2014-03-05 09:30

      guys lets put stats aside for once, besides being the longest standing captain EVER Smith had absolute respect from all of his players, besides that his on field decisions must rate in at least the top 4 ever. Then look at his guts, coming out to bat with a broken hand, always putting South Africa first, a great (not good) batsman a wonderful slip fielder. What more do you want

      Jason Marriott - 2014-03-05 10:08

      Decline before this series previous 2 years averaged just short of 50.. last 5 years averaged just under 50 entire career just under 50. So don't understand the argument that he has been in decline. On top of that he hasn't lost a series since 2009, ok looks likely they will lose this one never the less a great record.

      Selma Botha - 2014-03-05 10:57

      Captained 114 tests, 59 won, 28 lost, 27 drawn; 197 ODI's, 115 won, 77 lost. Average, never thought he had a killer instinct of a Kepler Wessels or Clive Rice.

      Jim King - 2014-03-05 11:24

      We Salute you Smith ! i always respected you well done chap

      Jim King - 2014-03-05 11:26

      Smith was good but couldnt win a world cup for his country like Kallis they failed in that aspect ! alas they were great south africans players

      Wikus Roos - 2014-03-05 11:39

      Wow, they actually gave his stats right here, in this article. Probably a reading supporter, never watches but always complains. Kallis is very correct. Smith was not appreciated, and yes, he has been down on form, but in general, he was captain of captains, leader in heart and soul, and maybe not classic in style but a formidable batsmen as well. We salute you Smith! Absolutely salute you!!!

      Eric Moneyvalu - 2014-03-05 13:24

      @ Susan . That is why we live in a Democarcy . We all can have our own views. And im of the opinion that he knew his career was heading nowhere so rather bail offf now.

      David Peterson - 2014-03-05 13:31

      One of the greatest cricketers to EVER play for SA and a multiple record holder. You Dyecha are just another typical SA fan who has no idea what he's talking about but still feels it pertinent to express your idiotic opinion. Sit down!!!

      Hemant Singh - 2014-03-05 14:37

      I love how people love to criticize players. Fact: He had the talent to represent our National Team. Fact: He faced the toughest opposition and conditions Fact: He delivered more times than not. ...the list can go on I make it a point not to criticize someone unless I have the skill to stand in there shoes. Yes it can be disappointing when their performance is off, but they are human, and we don't know what they are going through. You leave your family and travel for months and then tell me how you perform. The man deserves respect and he has mine, at least!

      Rob Heath - 2014-03-05 15:23

      Dyacha - it's a unanimous vote you have been elevated to the level of paluka, enjoy.

      Vickers Vermeulen - 2014-03-05 15:33

      "Even Australians who wear green and gold tattoos tingled when the door to the dressing room opened and Smith walked out at No. 11, looking to survive 8.2 overs with a broken hand, his own blood recently injected into his right elbow, and a desperate Australian attack." I salute you Captain courageous.

      Nick Andrews - 2014-03-05 15:35

      @Dyecha, i dont know what is more sad, your comment or the fact that your ignorant comment got over 200 likes

      Bretton Eveleigh - 2014-03-05 16:10

      Sit down and shut-up Dyecha... you're making a fool of yourself.

      Phillys Winterbottom - 2014-03-05 16:51

      nob-head!!

      Siya Dlulane - 2014-03-06 03:44

      Smith got soooooooo many rubbish scores. Far more rubbish scores than good ones. I have respect for Kallis; Pollock & so many other retired players. But none for Smith. Should have been axed a long time ago.

  • JamesBlacksmith - 2014-03-05 07:54

    Smith became captain at 22, Klusener got kicked out of the team unceremoniously (at the time our only player with BMT). I don't know what this 'toughness' was all about, seeing as we've failed badly in every WC since he took over. Talk was tough sure, but that's not enough.

      Gary Guy - 2014-03-05 08:02

      Most knowledgeable cricket followers judge people and teams on Test results not one-day!

      JamesBlacksmith - 2014-03-05 08:34

      @Gary Most knowledgeable cricket fans judge players on their ability to perform in teams in which they are selected. Had Smith solely played Test matches, perhaps different story, however that was not the case. He captained South Africa in most formats, so I will judge him on all formats. Can you really compare the achievements of Smith with Cronje or Kepler in one day matches? At least with Cronje (match fixing aside) and Kepler we either lost through by very small margins or through factors out of our control (i.e. rain). Smith came in, our main one day performer (Klusener) got dropped and we subsequently went on to lose by 100+ runs in world cups... and that amid claims by Smith we were the favourites. Still can't understand why CSA would chose a 22 y old to captain the team.

      Foc Us - 2014-03-05 08:39

      ONE guy cannot win the World Cup.... it's true what Pollock says: When the team wins its OUR team ... but when they lose then its SMITH who is at fault! SA fans are some of the most unforgiving in the world ... mind you we do not burn players' houses down when they lose critical games!! lol The stats speak for themselves ... Smith has the best record of ALL our Captains ... case closed

      JamesBlacksmith - 2014-03-05 08:47

      @Focus One man can actually win matches to win world cups (see Klusener). No-one expected 100 from Smith in a World Cup, but 40+ in an important game would have been nice. Please list the innings where Smith 'made a difference' in the world cups. Oh and please don't include matches against Bangladesh, Ireland or the Netherlands. I'm talking knockout/virtual knockout matches where the captain leads by example (type of innings we often saw from Klusener).

      BJ Pieman - 2014-03-05 09:00

      Admittedly we also failed every world cup before Smith.. But I don't see the fuss about this guy, Pollock and Cronje had much better captaincy records.

      Foc Us - 2014-03-05 09:01

      Blacksmith Klusener made a CONTRIBUTION to win matches he certainly did NOT win matches on his own!! This is a TEAM sport if you haven't noticed ... this is NOT golf BTW if I remember Klusener with help from our friend Donald ... actually COST us the World Cup so don't be so high and mighty ...

      Malcolm MacLeod - 2014-03-05 09:06

      @JamesBlacksmith - Yes exactly, I've not cared about cricket for a long time due to this, I hope we get now a captain that is worthy so I can actually care about our national team again.

      JamesBlacksmith - 2014-03-05 09:07

      @Focus I assumed that when you used the term 'one man' you were using the term figuratively to paint of a picture of one man 'carrying' the team as opposed to one man literally bowling, fielding and playing keeper. So please explain to me if, how (and references these innings) where Smith 'carried' the team or for that matter just DID HIS PART in crunch games by a. playing an innings one would expect from a captain. b. playing just a good innings, or contributing regularly when it mattered. As Smith did not bowl, keep or even count as a valuable fielder, one would assume his contributions with the bat were outstanding, right?

      Malcolm MacLeod - 2014-03-05 09:09

      @Foc us - wow you must have huge logic issues/blinkers if you think Klusener cost us that world cup, Klusener is the only reason we were in with a shot in that game and most of the ones before us. The mistake was on Donald, although the true blame lies on the rest of the batting order.

      JamesBlacksmith - 2014-03-05 09:12

      @Malcolm This team (and Smith's captaincy) reminds me of the Springbok years with Krige and then Skinstad at the helm.

      Eduard Homes - 2014-03-05 09:22

      James, you hit the nail on the head. Looking back, SA never had a guy after Lance with BMT. I sometimes wonder if our selectors have enough insight and actually think of winning games and tournaments. We always have good players, but never great players (Kallis was great and he proved it...who else since 2000?). Even our bowlers are like a yo-yo. No great bowler that can actually take wickets, like Shane Warne or Glenn McGrath when it matters. FACT. Also, one should look at our development programs. We never have been able to produce top notch spin bowlers.

      Foc Us - 2014-03-05 09:26

      BlackSmith I am SO sorry.... I forget that individual players are allowed to create their OWN stats in terms of average runs; wins etc. I also seem to forget that Klusener was the ONLY man in the team .... doffie

      Foc Us - 2014-03-05 09:33

      @eduardjones When last have you even LOOKED at the World rankings present and past??!!

      Erwin Wertwijn - 2014-03-05 13:50

      Since re-admission Smith was the best captain, like it or not, the corrupt Cronje does not count. Off form lately, true. But nobody in that team currently has the balls to become captain. You can all look forward to leaderless cricket. Oh and enjoy the bones you get thrown by the BCCI, ECB & ASA who will dictate what games CSA will be playing. I bet you, that was the reason Graeme and Kallis left.

      Paul Holzman - 2014-03-05 15:18

      he only captained in 2 world cups, so u blame him for the loss ? Twit

      Malcolm MacLeod - 2014-03-05 15:22

      "so u blame him for the loss ?" Well I'm sure he would have had no problem taking the credit if they won or you giving it, so it seems fair that it should swing both ways, I mean you do believe a captain plays a major role in whether a team wins or loses right?

      Donald Dykman - 2014-03-05 15:26

      Like i said before, as an opening batsman he was great, as a captain highly overrated, sometime captains are lucky to be surrounded by great players like Kallis, AB, HASH, Steyn and Vernon, THEY made him look good.

      Sonny Jacobs - 2014-03-06 07:35

      Klusener cost us the opening game in 2003 WC against WI because of so called BMT or arrogance. So Donald, Pollock, Bouch, Kallis had no BMT? Go back to sleep!

      Willouw Bonthuys - 2014-03-06 22:58

      Since Smith dropped out of ODI'S , we dropped from a number 2 ranking to 5 , and we have struggled in almost all OID series we played in since then , we normally creamed NZ in ODI's when they tour in SA .. look what happened in the last tour they had here. We were pathetic.

  • keobakile - 2014-03-05 07:56

    Well done smith, you did your best , amidst high criticism, you were you own man, not a populist .. ... All well for the retirement ... Let me remember also Hansie, our forgotten hero ...

      frankgerald - 2014-03-05 08:28

      Well said Danny.

      Siya Dlulane - 2014-03-06 03:46

      Smith was rubbish. Couldn't bat; couldn't bowl. Never liked the Douche-bag.

  • Pap Snoek - 2014-03-05 07:57

    I had more respect for him as a test player before this series.

      Siya Dlulane - 2014-03-06 03:48

      Yip, out of six inning, he never got one score higher than 15. Even Steyn did far better with the bat. I won't miss Smith. He's a fart.

  • Solly Knoetze - 2014-03-05 08:04

    He has himself to blame. Left his team when they were eliminated. Big mouth Biff.

  • Jonathan Faurie - 2014-03-05 08:10

    "Maybe it's a South African thing where we like keeping our guys down on the ground, criticizing them." - please stop the bull s##t JK. Fewer people criticized you when you were not performing. Why...because you were humble and far less arrogant than Smith. Lara whent through a bad patch, not much was said about him, Tendulkar whent through how many bad patches and not much was said about him. Why....again, humility and no arrogance. And I am waiting for the comments of: "You are mistaking arrogance for confidence"....but that in itself is the most arrogant saying alive. And lets see if Sport24 deletes this comment about their boosem buddy Smith.

      Obakeng Khazamula - 2014-03-05 08:13

      So you know the guy. Tell us more about his arrogance.

      JamesBlacksmith - 2014-03-05 08:25

      @Obakeng Trying to smash the 2nd ball he faced (QF I think) for a 6 and losing his wicket. South Africa goes on to love by 100.

      David McCallum - 2014-03-05 08:31

      jonathan -ye of little brains ,that arrogance as you call it is what got the proteas to no 1 .99 % of the best sportsman have got that swagger about them .that's what makes them the best and keeps them at the top .give the man credit and stop being jealous

      JamesBlacksmith - 2014-03-05 08:40

      @David Odd, Sri Lanka and India have won world cups, we haven't come close. The closest we came was under Kepler and lost mainly because of rain. Best sportsmen? Federer, Nadal, Djokovic arrogant? Mickleson, any SA golfer that has won a major, John Smit? There is nothing wrong with setting a goal of being #1. That is not arrogant. arrogant is making predictions that you will win (and then losing by 100 runs).

      Jonathan Faurie - 2014-03-05 08:48

      @David: I have some questions for you. And please be honest in answering them. 1)Would you say Jacques Kallis was the best ever cricketer produced by South Africa? 2) Would you say he is arrogant? 3) Would you say Hashim Amla is a top batsman with the potential to be one of the best batsman we ever produced? 4) Would you say he is arrogant? 5)AB is the top batsman in the world at the moment. Is he arrogant about it? 6) Ernie Els was our best golfer ever produced. Is he arrogant? Granted, Ill give you that Gary Player is a arrogant sod.

      David McCallum - 2014-03-05 09:15

      tiger woods , steve Waugh lance Armstrong ( even though he was doping) shane warne lewis Hamilton rafal nadal Sebastian vettel viv Richards ms dhoni the list can go on and on and on ,they all the best at what they do and they all have that swagger (arrogance ) that's why I said 99% .that arrogance and absolute believe is what gets them to the top and keeps them there .even kallis ,abdv ,hashim ,Federer ,els they ALL have it ,some just don't show it as much .if they did not have that swagger they would be average joe soaps .THATS WHAT SETS THEM APART and theres nothing wrong with it .grant some are insane like lance ,tiger ,vettel but without it they would not have been the best

      Jonathan Faurie - 2014-03-05 09:22

      @David: Now we are finally getting to the point about it. Yes, they all may have that swagger and self belief. But some are complete d##ses about it and some are humble about it. when you are humble, people forgive you quicker than when you are a d##s. Tiger Woods got hammered for how long? Not because he had an affair, because then millions of men would suffer the same fate, but because he is a celebrity and is a d##s about his arrogance. I would also argue that there is a fine line between being confident and self assured (which all sportsmen need as it gives them that competitive edge) and being a d##s.

      David McCallum - 2014-03-05 09:33

      and that swagger from smith is what the proteas needed to get to the top with out a doubt .if he did not become captain we would still be behind Australia ,England and india in the rankings .yes we would have had great players but they would not have gelled into the formidable unit they are today . this is why Australia dominated for 10 years under the captaincy of Waugh and ponting .and that's why the jumping up the rankings now ,there swagger and arrogance is back .

      JamesBlacksmith - 2014-03-05 11:45

      @David Arrogance: offensive display of superiority or self-importance. Your list contains many people that do not qualify. Viv Richards was the captain of a side that didn't lose a test for 10 years. Appreciating their superiority is normal, not arrogant.

      David McCallum - 2014-03-05 12:57

      james - so its only arrogant if YOU don't like the man .how smug and dumb can you be .how do the others not qualify

      JamesBlacksmith - 2014-03-06 09:06

      @David Arrogance is unrelated to likeability, although generally it doesn't help. It does not matter whether I like Smith or not, fact remains he made the Proteas (and South Africa) look like fools on many occasions, most notably this test when he gladly accepted the status of 'favourite'. He seems infatuated with the big mouth aussies from the late 90's, but at-least they could back up their claims of 'being the best'. We can't.

  • Granville Paulse - 2014-03-05 08:11

    His brash attitude in the beginning won him no friends. I think since then people have wanted to see him fall. I wasn't a fan of his for a start. I do believe he grew into the test captaincy nicely. As far as the ODI captaincy is concerned, I never rated him. I thought the game was to fast for him. I thought someone like Johan Botha was better at that than him. All that said, he was a good cricketer. Not the most talented mofo you'd ever come across but undoubted one of the most hard working. To make that technique of his work the way he did, is nothing short of a miracle. Well done Biff! Enjoy the family time. You deserve it.

  • David McCallum - 2014-03-05 08:18

    you all a bunch of fakes and idiots , you can have the 11 best players of all time in a side and still be a crap side .SMITH brought fantastic leadership to the proteas .HE is the reason we become no 1 in the world .its his attitude in the game (just like steve Waugh ) that got all our world class players to start performing as a unit .so all you morons get over yourselves and give the man credit .he is a legend in world cricket.look at his record and it speaks for itself

      Foc Us - 2014-03-05 08:46

      Ditto!

      Theuns Pretorius - 2014-03-05 09:29

      Ag please man - whats the point of being "a great captain" when you constantly put your middle order under pressure because you can't last for more than 2 overs and 5 runs. Good riddance and good luck, Smith!

      David McCallum - 2014-03-05 09:50

      theuns - man alive ,how can a player constantly be failing when he 1) has 27 hundreds ,2) has an average of close to 50, 3) has 9000 test runs and 6000 ODI runs .please don't be stupid .he has 1 bad series and now he cant play .look at his stats .so when kallis averaged nothing during a lean period in his career did we all call him useless .wake up people .look at his stats as a opener and captain and compare them to others and you will realise how good he is .look at some of the stats in our team now even .Peterson, duminy ,Elgar .then go look at the franchises and look at the openers stats

      Malcolm MacLeod - 2014-03-05 10:06

      @David - How many of those hundreds were in games when the other team was performing bad? Or the other team was Zimbabwe? etc. etc. One cannot just take statistics without looking at the context of those statistics, and filtering for factors that skew the statistics etc. How many of those hundreds were in games that mattered? How many ducks did he get in games that mattered? Performing when needed is what matters and this is what people are talking about, scoring 500 in games that don't matter against Bangladesh does not help anyone if you duck out in every single world cup game.

      David McCallum - 2014-03-05 11:19

      Malcolm ,have you actually looked at his stats cause I don't believe you have .he has scored hundreds against all the big boys so don't be daft

      Theuns Pretorius - 2014-03-05 12:43

      David: in the early and middle part of his career he was having a good run - lots of runs against most teams - especially England and the minos. But for YEARS now he has been completely unreliable. People compare him to Waugh? RUBBISH - Waugh was hard, and tough mentally - and REGULARLY made it count with the bat. Not Smith - he would not be able to make it into any top test side on only his batting - he was not good nor consistent enough. So why was he in the team?

      David McCallum - 2014-03-05 13:01

      maybe because he is English is the problem ,maybe that's why most people here want AB or FAF. I think you have blocked out the good he has done and only concentrated on the few mistakes .so typical

      Theuns Pretorius - 2014-03-05 13:43

      LOL - @david - yes - I wanted an afrikaans captain - thats it - you crack me up man. Its like a wife staying in an abusive relationship because the man did good stuff too - yes graham was good for us years ago - but lately we've been playing with 10 players only to accommodate him.

      Malcolm MacLeod - 2014-03-05 13:56

      @David I guess my comment totally went over your head as you instead chose to construct a strawman, but anyway I will bite. He has no test 100s against either Sri Lanka or India, and no one day hundred against Pakistan, so your statement is not even true, perhaps you should follow your own advice. If one factors out his huge average run scores against teams like Bangladesh (82) and Zimbabwe (81) and West Indies (70) his average suddenly doesn't look nearly as fantastic as it does at first glance, but hey it's easy to chery pick statistics without thinking about them - as you have made a termendous effort of demonstrating. Smiths captaincy was truly the era of: play a bunch of series against horribly bad teams to make our statistics look good, blow a lot of hot ego air about how amazing we are and how we are the worlds best, go to world cup or other game against a real team and see it all blow up in our faces. You never saw this nonsense before and I hope it will vanish now that he is gone, had he been half as obsessed with being a good captain and/or actually performing as he were with his statistics perhaps we would have actually won a world cup or something that mattered.

  • Paul Vuma - 2014-03-05 08:19

    I don't understand why South Africans are so negative about Smith yet he has contributed a great deal to the National side. There are not enough clued up cricket minds posting comments, it's a bunch if quick fix and entitlement-minded idiots that criticize Smith....

      Jaco Pieters - 2014-03-05 08:25

      Paul I agree 100%.

      Paul Vuma - 2014-03-05 09:33

      Tommy, I see your view, the fact that Smith had a lot of ppl not liking is one of the things that made him an exceptional leader, whether other players could have been better leaders at that time will always be unknown

      Blaze Power - 2014-03-05 14:29

      the reason Smith is so unpopular amongst his fellow countryman is cause he has a very despicable aura about him, in a retrospective way its good as this proves you dont have to be black to be disliked by most whites or vice versa, its what you make yourself.

  • Mark Theunissen - 2014-03-05 08:28

    It was the same with Wessels. Everybody hated him and had lots to say. However, as Naas always said," Look at the scoreboard - which can be turned around to " look at the stats"! Well done Graeme, you will be missed.

  • lorenco.lewis - 2014-03-05 08:29

    thanks biff.

  • Sarel van Deventer - 2014-03-05 08:32

    i was never a big biff fan, but i must admit, he was a great captain. My best moment of smith was the 2nd innings knock in the test against australia when we bowled them out for 47 at newlands. Thanx for your commitment to the proteas mr smith. Wish u and your family all the best for the future! Hope u join the supersport panel of experts soon!

      Nathan Robertson - 2014-03-05 08:53

      I can say the same for Ponting...hated the guy, thought he was cocky but he was a great captain!

      Paul Vuma - 2014-03-05 09:34

      Sarel and Nathan: I agree 200% with both of you, I don't like either of the guys, but figures and records don't lie.

  • Richard Lemmer - 2014-03-05 08:33

    You earn respect and do not deserve it ........ That says it all !!!

  • Eelco van den Bosch - 2014-03-05 08:35

    What I find interesting is that MOST Australian greats of the past praises Graeme for his leadership, his tenacity and his driven resolve to fight till the end -- someone the country can be proud of -- and then you read the comment by the South Africans -- pathetic!!!

      Rendani Nemavhidi - 2014-03-05 09:28

      A Prophet is not without honour but in is home town.

      Paul Vuma - 2014-03-05 09:35

      Spot on! And Australians have fantastic records, so great leadership recognizes great leadership...

  • Brent - 2014-03-05 08:46

    OH YOU MEAN LIKE GIBBS?

  • Andile Nokhetshe - 2014-03-05 08:52

    I just hope Smith was not reading the comments here on News24 after Day3 of the match and decided from there to retire. There will always be trolls and fools who never see good from anyone or anything.

      Theuns Pretorius - 2014-03-05 12:45

      I would like to think that we contributed positively - getting rid of dead weight!

  • ravikesh.kalicharran - 2014-03-05 08:54

    Viva Biff Viva

  • Trix Roux - 2014-03-05 08:58

    Jip I said it all along he never bothered to try and give interviews in Afrikaans (Like John Smit used to do) and hence he never go respect from me sorry!!!

      Andile Nokhetshe - 2014-03-05 09:06

      I have always been suspicious that some don't like Smith because of exactly what you have mentioned and here you are confirming my suspicion. Whoow! That's very unfortunate in a democratic country like SA with eleven official languages.

      Trix Roux - 2014-03-05 09:09

      Well he brought it on himself he had Afrikaans in school and should've made an effort simple really!

      Sakhikhaya Dlala - 2014-03-05 09:26

      Level of entitlement is too high here.

      Trix Roux - 2014-03-05 11:25

      Ag boet I don't give a rat's r's about what you think about entitlement. The fact of the matter remains..lol

      Gary Goddard - 2014-03-05 11:45

      And why should he speak Afrikaans? English is his language, Cricket is an International game where probably 95% of cricketers speak English....you think Afrikaaners are special...?

      Trix Roux - 2014-03-05 12:40

      Susan come play with my slope, it needs stroking!

      Trix Roux - 2014-03-05 12:44

      Because he is a national captain you chop representing afrikaners too. Rugby is also "international" but John Smit managed to praat die taal so yes we are effing special we KEEP SA ALIVE (Paying taxes,etc)

      Paul Vuma - 2014-03-05 13:01

      Trix u are a disgrace to South Africa with that type of mentality...just because he did Afrikaans at school it doesn't make it compulsory for him to do interviews in the language, or any other language... Knock some sense into your thick skull

      Trix Roux - 2014-03-05 13:09

      I didn't say it was compulsory you idiot ready my post again. You are a disgrace to the whole world with your intellect! I was saying that I don't respect GS because he never in 12-13 years gave interviews in Afrikaans when he could have, it would've been nice seeing that he had afrikaans as a subject. (Plenty Afrikaners in the team, watching the game,etc)If I was national captain and I could speak several languages I would have because it is those "languages" that support me, the team,etc. Why I absolutely adore Roger Federer can speak many languages and often does it in interviews regardless of his 17 slams. Back to your papsak!

  • grant.mcgillan - 2014-03-05 08:58

    Having taken in Boucher and now Kallis going on about Smith and their opinions it's fairly clear that collectively they disrespect the public for having exposed their clique within the team. So, clear off chaps and enjoy the cream you earned. We now want a team of focused individuals who will have their time to shine.

      Michael Rorke - 2014-03-05 10:05

      My sentiments exactly!

      Gary Goddard - 2014-03-05 11:46

      What a stupid comment!! It's those exact players who "enjoyed their time in the sun" and put us number one in the. World.

  • Siakha Bin Gxagxa - 2014-03-05 09:04

    We're losing probably the the glue that has held the side together for long time coz his leadership skills were 2nd to none and yet still we have shallow minded so called fans judging the batsman upon 1 failed series. We don't know what we're losing. Its like they say "you don't uppriciate your world until it runs dry" Smith is a huge loss

      David McCallum - 2014-03-05 09:25

      these idiots will find that out the hard way

      Paul Vuma - 2014-03-05 13:02

      True

      Siakha Bin Gxagxa - 2014-03-05 14:38

      If truth be told we have the most disloyal fans in the cricket world. When smith was orchestrating our first series wins in England and australia he was the great captain. When smith was scoring back to back double centuries away from (england) he was a great batsman. When smith led the proteas to another series win in england and australia he was great captain. And all of a sudden he is a crap captain even though his team hasn't lost a series since 2008. Please learn to give respect where its due Greame craig smith will go down as one of the greatest. And fans from other countries that appreciate greatness are also salutng the starwalt

  • Malcolm MacLeod - 2014-03-05 09:04

    You get the respect you command it can't be forced, clearly smith didn't act in a way that people deemed worthy of respect. Good riddance, I hope we get a real captain this time.

  • Sabiha Lockhat - 2014-03-05 09:13

    Well I have come to realise one thing luck has to be on your side any small mistakes Smith made he was just targeted as arrogant, bullish, but yes if AB makes a mistake no problem he is the popular guy noone will say he is too slack or lacks guts. Thank you Graeme Smith for being who you were honest saying it like is and so many times proved your critic wrong ,you have left behind a lesson for me just be tough and you will achieve higher never mind you have haters .

  • Pam White - 2014-03-05 09:20

    Great Captain & player.It took the rest of the cricket world 9k runs to work your so called flawed technique out.Thanx Graeme and all of the best!!

  • Theuns Pretorius - 2014-03-05 09:24

    Whatever - just don't flatter him too much - he might just change his mind and then we'll be stuck with captain 5runs or less for another year! Please let him take alviro with him!

  • Daniel Lionel Shneier - 2014-03-05 09:33

    Spot on!

  • Errol van Heerden - 2014-03-05 09:33

    50 ave is very misleading! scores of 1.5.7.9.13.14.24.123.1.5.7.32.21.2.3.6.234.1.0.1.0 for an eg don't help any team We are all surprised when he stays in-but if AB or Amla don't get 30 plus we are disappointed! A team needs consistent scores even if its just 30 plus each time rather than a ave 50 as above!

      David McCallum - 2014-03-05 09:57

      why don't you give us top batters 6 stats for Australia ,England ,india and our team and see how much it differs from smiths scores .you might be surprised

      David McCallum - 2014-03-05 10:02

      remember a 20 or 30 is just as pointless as a 5 or 6 .what YOU want is a score of 50 and above every innings. And that's not going to happen in todays cricket .maybe when Bradman played its possible because he only played in 2 countries (England and Australia ) india , SA and west indies all played in Australia .

  • Daniel Lionel Shneier - 2014-03-05 09:34

    Speak to Farnie De Villiers, he will tell you otherwise.

  • Daniel Lionel Shneier - 2014-03-05 09:35

    Smith was a crap captain. Good riddance

  • Daniel Lionel Shneier - 2014-03-05 09:37

    Give Grant a Bells!

  • David Luis - 2014-03-05 09:40

    The only good thing he did was quit! he should have taken the hint long ago.....

      Lonwabo Ntshabase - 2014-03-05 11:18

      We can critise Grame now because of his lack of form we must look back the guy has a gud record at the age of 21 was a captain and we rank no 1 test side there is a gud and bad side on every human being we do mistakes and learn from them gud luk I will remember the days Grame hit centuries we win test series in Australia

  • Wayne Hambides - 2014-03-05 09:54

    Kallis and Smith but chums....Both idiots

  • Robert James Penson - 2014-03-05 09:57

    Whether or not he was a good captain is irrelevant to me. Who tells their national team mates half way through a test match that he is retiring? SA were already on the back foot and needed their leader to rally the troops. Instead he dropped a massive bombshell and expected his team to perform. Surely this announcement could have waited until after the match? Just saying.

      Michael Rorke - 2014-03-05 10:20

      The same guy who thought his personal emotional needs warranted him leaving his team mates after the 49 run loss to NZ in the WC. To quote: "What I did not take into account was the public's reaction."... GREAT captaining. not.

  • Michael Rorke - 2014-03-05 10:03

    Not to start a flame war, but if you weren't part of thin-lipped-Smiths inside-team 'Click' (Smith, Kallis, Boucher, AB, SELECTORS etc), you were ousted. Just think of fiery, exciting players like Klusener and Gibbs... thrown to the wolves because they would not join said boneheads. And an average of 38 in ODI's for an opening batsmen is nothing to harp on about... Sorry - this is my personal opinion, and this is an open platform. So suck it up, better things to come.

  • Lucky Tiva - 2014-03-05 10:10

    graeme smith and kallis are bunch of losers who have no respect for this country and its people.John Smit and his ex teammates are bunch of winners!

      Tian Nel - 2014-03-05 10:19

      lucky now tell us why do you say kallis is a loser?

  • Sarah Laubscher - 2014-03-05 10:26

    Respect is earned. If Biff wasn't so full of himself, maybe he would get more respect.

  • Marius Sardinha - 2014-03-05 10:40

    After reading this article my views on Graham Smith has changed. The Statistics speak for themselves and he deserves a standing ovation for serving South Africa as he did. We are quick to criticize when things go wrong for the Proteas and quick to praise when things go right? Like Pollock mentioned: " "We're a very passionate sporting nation. It's our team when we're winning, and it's Grahame's team when we're losing." Thank you Graham Smith for the memories, may the Lord bless you and your family now and in the future.

  • Anthony De Lucchi - 2014-03-05 10:43

    I agree sometimes I do think us SA’cans do not respect the great sportman we have, well done Graeme!

  • Joe Mase - 2014-03-05 12:20

    I agree totally with Kallis. Give the man the respect he deserves. He may have had a few flaws, thats because his human. He has taken SA cricket to great heights. Smith, I salute you, well done. SA WILL miss you. Enjoy your retirement and your family, life is short.

  • Andrew Worrall - 2014-03-05 13:07

    Why has somebody like Francois Pienaar got respect and Smith hasn't? Respect is earned. Smith tends to runaway and make excuses for loses. I respect Michael Clarke more and that's saying a lot.

      Blaze Power - 2014-03-05 13:23

      totally agree Smith was never liked or respected by the majoriy of fans or critics as Kallis points out-so it he has something to do with his personality or lack of it.

  • Sue Herbst - 2014-03-05 13:14

    I agree with Jacques Kallis, I hope that Graeme Smith gets the recognition he deserves. He is a great cricketer and a very good leader. Good luck with your future endevours Graeme, may they be as successful as your cricketing career.

  • Blaze Power - 2014-03-05 13:20

    average captain with an average of under 50-not good enough-plus he was never really liked by the public at large and we are talking about all races and all kinds, so that tells you he did not have a good character

  • Vincent Silvester Cupido - 2014-03-05 13:53

    Kallis would cover for him as they were part of the Mafia structure in the team. Good riddance, if you ask me, indeed a good player, no doubt, but also a spoiled brat who even succeeded in telling his bosses (CSA) what to do, the Ray Jennings matter comes to mind, who's ousting was orchestrated by Smith simply because he was not happy with Jennings sense of discipline and style of coaching. In my view Jennings should be honored for having taken our junior team to silverware last weekend in Dubai, and he should be permanently employed without delay by CSA, yet they can't make any guarantee's to Jennings, currently the best coach in South-Africa, how absurd!

  • Francois Swart - 2014-03-05 14:03

    his average for this test series as the captain/opening batsman is 7.5 runs per innings after 6 innings.

  • Dyecha - 2014-03-05 14:16

    all have the right to like the man, but as they say did he ever win a world cup and what has he done in test matches what was his highest score in a five day test or one day and T20 I have nothing against the man just he is not the best player in the team he should have been aBLE to at least get a high score SOMETHIME, but leaves it up to the others

      Dominique Caswell - 2014-03-06 09:09

      Greame always seemed to be watching the action from the stands. while others are saving the game.

  • Dyecha - 2014-03-05 14:18

    Rabbit name suits you captain he might be but can not hit a ball

  • Granville Ormerod - 2014-03-05 14:19

    Mr Kallis You are 100% correct sir, Smith got no respect as there was not enough to go around.....you had all the respect from the SA fans......

  • Lynne Van Der Linde - 2014-03-05 15:04

    If you can play better, take over from those you criticize so much!

  • Jr Bussa Mbule - 2014-03-05 15:18

    What a country, Smith must go because he had no interviews in Afrikaans, Makanya, Jp, Aviro, Hamla, because they are quotas, now English will say no AB because he is Afrikaner , I think now theCSA must go and get you a new capitain in the galaxies . Wao rainbow nation

  • Ian Spear - 2014-03-05 15:25

    Jacques, fair comment, but a lot of SA cricket supporters who love the game and look at cricket objectively have appreciated Graeme's contribution and his fine record. Sometimes only the idiots right negative comments,and I have no doubt that the positives far outway them. Unfortunately human nature is such that it will only detect the black spot on a white sheet, don't lose ant sleep over that.

  • Burger Malherbe - 2014-03-05 16:04

    Graeme Smith was the best thing that happened to SA Cricket ever. When he became captain we needed someone to make SA belief in ourselves again after Hansiegate, and Pollock (nice guy) just was not up to facing the Aus and Poms eye to eye. Smith gets ridiculously blamed for being sure of himself and not scared to speak his mind even in adversity, but that is what made him stand out and earned him respect from captains much older than himself. We are going to miss him, and I am going to miss his "no nonsense" attitude - we are all going to miss it. Well done Graeme - be proud of being the best captain we have ever produced.