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Eng, Germany 'shame on you'

2010-01-28 07:44

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cassan3/13/2010 5:44 PM: update on WW III Hello people of the world, in april or may of 2009 the Cuba president declare war on the U S, China, & Venezuela. People of the world we all need to help one another and stand up against Cuba. We are in World War III, the Cuban's declared. They are consentrating on our world leaders and ranking officers so that they can't protect the people from Cuba. The cuban army will write down what he can say and that's all he is allowed to do. So please pass the message along in writting so it gets to all the people. Cuba needs to be bomded off the face of the map. Cuba's messages by way of sub lingal messages to our army's of english speaking countries' will make our officer's wait for your commanders written orders, which will never get to them because of their sub lingal messages. Most of the foreign speaking countries' leaders can't speak their own language, then at night they just beat them and during the day. sub lingal messages are against the law in the US. The US is not the one putting them over a map. only cuba is. the Geneva convention is for all the counties of the world an cuba doesn't obey any of those laws. ps: do you know most of the people are to beaten to speak because of Cuba's concentration war. Including the other leaders of different countries. Please don't listen to those sub lingal messages that Cuba is using on your country. Please inform as many people as possible to act in their peoples' behalf and bomb cuba.

Joe2/2/2010 3:39 PM: Please stay away from here...That means more tickets for us who want to go and enjoy the world cup!!!

Candace2/2/2010 11:54 AM: The ANC has visions of grandeur. It is rediculous that a country steeped in poverty and violence is hosting this event. The ANC is gathering trophies instead of building infrastructure, addressing the Security, Health and Education crises, and creating employment opportunities for a hopeless youth. In 1995 and 2003 we made due with our existing stadia, and the world applauded us. It will be a miracle if we break even. Stop spending tax payer's money on nonsense.

Selma2/2/2010 11:40 AM: Why would overseas countries think it is safe to travel to South Africa when the SA media report daily on the violent criminal activities in SA. Are we denying that SA is the rape and muder capital in the world? At election time the politicians run their campaigns on curtailing violence. Since 1999 I have been highjacked and shot, had two cars stolen, had my home burgled twice, and garage burgled four times. And I consider myself fortunate.How many people in the UK or Europe can boast such a record. Violence has become the norm.

Selma2/2/2010 11:20 AM: Why would overseas countries think it is safe to travel to South Africa when the SA media report daily on the violent criminal activities in SA. Are we denying that SA is the rape and muder capital in the world? At election time the politicians run their campaigns on curtailing violence. Since 1999 I have been highjacked and shot, had two cars stolen, had my home burgled twice, and garage burgled four times. And I consider myself fortunate.How many people in the UK or Europe can boast such a record. Violence has become the norm.

dont come!2/2/2010 1:09 AM: When Germany hosted the Olympics they had a terrorist attack...

Mark - Perth, Australia1/31/2010 4:44 PM: The sad thing about all these comments are that everyone is right. SA has a socially unacceptable crime rate (rate and type of application). SA needs fans from around the world to spend money, even though the general population will not benefit. FIFA has already closed deals that do not benefit South Africans. Also, many South Africans cannot afford ticket prices. Germany and the UK are right to make those that are to travel for the WC aware of what to expect. South Africa also has the responsibility to put under control the crime rate - not at the last minute, but show intent long before. SA does not need the money from the WC because they are not going to make any, but a legacy that is worth while leaving is control and drop in the crime rate. Come on South Africa, you can do it, but prove it first.

khaba1/30/2010 9:35 PM: U can say what u want, the world has a point england and germany have a point...for all the dumb small minded f**ks putting racism in their comments need 2 grow up, bec in 2days society blacks are more rasist that whites enough said...this is about crime in SA...as a south african black myself, the crime in SA is a joke, i just moved back to jhb after 10yrs in the USA, and funny enough 1 month in the country which actually was last yr sept. we were followed home and hi jacked, stuff like that doesnt happen in 1st world countries. the problem in South africa isnt the police force its the government system, the jails are full. So when they do catch a criminal in the act they send him home due to the prisions been so full, SA's system is a Total joke. The sad thing is 90% of the crime is not even done by local south africans but from blacks in zimbabwee, malawi and mozembique. only true resolution is bring back the death penalty enough said. and thats the same reason SA dont deserve the world cup, dont get me wrong im happy we having it, but the fact that the crime rate is the highest in the world, murder rate and rape is so high. SA is living on denial...u people can all disagree until the day u loose some1 close to u bec. of crime in SA

@@Sa in the UK1/29/2010 3:45 PM: To let you know the rest of my family is still stuck in South Africa. And frankly I can read any newspaper that I please to. Trust me I don't want to read the newspapers but unfortuantely as I care about my family (which you most probably dont do otherwise you would have looked at crime a long time ago) I would like to see what the next "wonderfull drama series" is thats playing off. BTW: the sun is out today so whippee, we actually do have sun, fancy that. Trust me I don't want to be back that is why I'm here......

Makopolo1/29/2010 8:59 AM: It really doesn't matter what they say now, it's too late, the world is coming to South Africa. All the contries have it's criminals and besides we've tightened our security for the tournament and beyond. Unless those two countries are planning on bringing their criminals to our beautiful country.

Velo1/29/2010 7:26 AM: At 50 murders a day I reckon that puts SA in the barbaric category, not to mention the corruption and general stuffing up of the country. So fully understand the German and English argument. Get your house in order, South Africa.

James1/28/2010 11:11 PM: Don't confuse the British press with the British public. There are articles about the world cup which discuss crime in SA, but they are generally quite balanced arguments and merely point out that safety has been a concern to FIFA and the tournament organisers for all of the reasons stated below. The Brits don't 'want the tournament to be a failure', that would be stupid. We all want the world cup to be a great spectacle but at the same time, you can't ignore the huge elephant in the corner of the room. FIFA are always attacking England and thr English game, they have a long history of it - the truth is FIFA have screwed up on the ticketing side of things and they are looking for a scape goat. There will be loads of Brits there (including myself) and the huge majority will have a safe, memorable trip - but some won't. Ignoring the subject doesn't make it go away

Kobus1/28/2010 10:53 PM: It's funny that everyone focusses on SA when it comes to murder, as the stats rate us at 31.7 per 100,000. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate).But lsit the cities with the highest murder rates in the world, and you'll find Ciudad Juarez,at 133 per 100k, or Washington, at 45.8 (http://www.theonion.com/content/node/29497). But let's focus on SA, as the W.C. will be here. All the foreigners hearing Saffas complain was not here before 94, when this was a very safe country if you lived in the suburb, and even today it is still. I live in Jhb, but my kids could play at night in the Western Cape on the streets, now problem. It depends on where you are, and the poor is the msot affected. As for Lizzie with your silly comments about drunken driving, well at least we're not all drugged up as in many of your UK cities! Yes SA is working on an unacceptable problem, but no SA Citizen will allow you to get harmed while they are around. It is our problem and we will sort it out. Stop bickering, come over here and enjoy the country, stay away from secluded areas as with any European city I have visted.

sean1/28/2010 10:05 PM: @itsme :) Best written and very accurate comment so far :)

sean1/28/2010 9:48 PM: @ Thabo !!! Why bring in racism again , you sad f...k !!! All I have to say is , read this http://www.sport24.co.za/Content/Soccer/WorldCup/383/f76839deae944ca5b8141b2d394a2a6d/28-01-2010-08-49/They_want_to_steal_SWC_-_Cele AND I REST MY CASE !! As primitive as it can come !!! AND GUYS LIKE THIS ARE IN CHARGE !! Nothing to do with racism just effing incompitency !! Imagine overseas folks read these things , no wonder they think .................. 4th world here we come !!! The more I read , the more I think jack ass Hoeness has a valid point !

Thabo1/28/2010 8:03 PM: SAD! If anyone ever doubted the saying "5% of people are stupid, the other 95% are bl@&dy stupid", reading this column will allay those doubts. Wisdom is scarce in SA, ignorant, biased opinions are rife. The SA government was presented with a golden opportunity (SWC) to address the self-centred, lawless, eff-you attitude characteristic of most South Africans by using the positive expectant energy of the SWC to get citizens to pull up their socks. This has been squandered through our politicians' obscene mad rush for self enrichment - "nothing else matters" - Really! It's all about the money. Sadly, every Tower of Babel comes crashing down. So will this one. I'm afraid fellow Africans that, although our weather is sunny, our days in the sun are reaching an end. Yes, the country is damn beautiful, yes, there are many wonderful people here, yes, the SWC should have a positive effect, BUT; never have I seen and experienced a more rascist and destructive society than the one I live in today. PS can't wait to watch Mexico vs. Bafana - go boys, go.

Wafer1/28/2010 7:45 PM: OK, yes!! And the media is at it again! It surely can only happen in SA that people can get on their high horses like this. I live in Germany, read the German news and talk to lots of them - all this while being South African. Where the h... did the media get this information? Yes, the Germans are worried about crime while being in SA - you ALL are!?! Stop calling them names because if this. It doesn't make them Nazis, it only makes you look who call them that, STUPID!

ALBERT KITENGE1/28/2010 7:26 PM: SHAME ON THESE TWO COUNTRIES;CAN THEY SOLVE THE TERROSIM ISSUE WHICH THEIR BEHAVIOR IS GENERATING AND LET SA ALONE.SWC IS AN AFRICAN AFFAIR;SA IS LOOK AT AS A ALL, AFRICA CONTINENT.WHY CALLING THIS EVENT SWC IF EUROPEANS THINK THEY OWNS IT?SWC IN SA WILL BE AN UBUNTU EVENT NOT JUST SPORT

Shaun1/28/2010 7:07 PM: My relatives have been murdered in SA! That is a fact! I left 15 years ago first to Botswana - now that is a friendly African country. While crime exists in all countries SA criminals are undoubtedly the most vicious. The flights to SA are too expensive & Europeans ( English & Germans included ) will not come to a winter ( sometimes cold ( at night)) & pay what are high prices. For these prices they expect a summer climate! Also don't rip off people who need to travel 6000 miles from Europe! I think many people are suffering in the bad recession as well!

b-ryan1/28/2010 7:01 PM: 1 thing i find particularly disturbing as mfanoncane pointed out, white south africans are quick to point out the countries mishaps for the world cup, yet during the brit and irish lions tour every1 4got bout crime and were so excited.. 34000 people were here for that, 1 robbed, 1 hijacked unfortunately. u suburban idiots, the really is we never year of any crime in our areas, mayb 1 or two a year so stop triena act like you live in the middle of hilbrow and the 50murders a day..question who do u kno that was murdered?! if u not hood u lying!!!

Gingernut1/28/2010 6:47 PM: @ itsme. Dam fine comments you posted, well done !

Yug1/28/2010 6:43 PM: People catch a wake up. Don't waste your time worring about tiny things. Come to SA and have an amazing adventure. Our SWC will be the best. Remeber Africa is not for sissies! Live a bit.

simon1/28/2010 6:38 PM: Seems like the truth hurts. That is what you can expect when you live in a state of deial. There is a big world out there, and they get real news, not SABC claptrap.

Dizzy Dazz1/28/2010 6:30 PM: Ironic: Two of the biggest war mongering nations on earth with two of the most deplorable hooligan records on the planet are now scared of some crime?! These ignorant, ill informed, narrow minded imbeciles will be increasing the crime rate!

wd31/28/2010 6:27 PM: Dizzy Dazz. You really chose a suitable name for yourself. Reading your comments confirms that indeed you are Dizzy! Any comparison of the crime (and grime) in the UK compared to SA can only exist in a seriously dysfunctional mind. You belong in SA with your silly comments. Most people who live in the UK would discount without a second thought .

itsme1/28/2010 6:24 PM: The chickens are coming home to roost at last. You cant live in a country where murder and rape have become the norm and corruption is par for the course. The old saying you can fool some of the people all the time and all the people some of the time but you cant fool all the people all of the time. It is time the government of south africa stopped treating its citizens like morons and the rest of the world like idiots. South Africans have to sit and listen how the visitors to the country are going to be so protected when for the last fifteen years there has been no one to protect them. When a government cannot look after its own people then it is only window dressing for the visitors they want to protect. Unless of course they looking for more money for their express gravy train!!!!!!!

@thabo1/28/2010 6:20 PM: Go do some research. Just over 500 people were killed in RSA by the old GVT. 20 000+ were killed in fighting between the IFP ANC etc before elections. The "black" population increased from around 3.8 million in 1948 to 45+ million in 1994. It must have been tough trying to survive then... That said, it is no justification for anything - one person dying is one person too many.

Al1/28/2010 6:16 PM: Don't blame Germany and England they read daily news of us on the net and it is not good.

@Lizzie1/28/2010 6:05 PM: I see you 1st world peeps are pelting soccer players with all sorts of objects again. re: craig bellamy. Maybe we should market full body armor to all england football supporters for watching the sport in their own county. thank God I can watch football in this beautiful sunny SA without any violence or drunks like @ the rugby

sean1/28/2010 5:51 PM: @LIZZIE : I agree 100% with you ! I still reckon S.A is the most beautiful country in the world , but what you wrote , many South Africans will not undertsand . A abnormal thing like crime is normal to many here in S.A !

David Fitzhugh1/28/2010 5:44 PM: From the U.S.A. : Those in the FIFA front office should apologize for the remarks made about S.A.. No excuse for them at all. I have lived in several african countries outside of S.A. and have to say I feel safer in S.A. than in any of the others. So much so that I bought a house there to retire in. Back to the point, once you award a country the position of host for any type of sports venue, whether it be W.C., Olympics or whatever, you should back it 100% and put it in the most positive light possible. Every country has its downside but few have as good an upside as S.A.. Keep working on the problems and you will find a solution and then S.A. will be the envy of the world.

Sean@SHANO1/28/2010 5:30 PM: WTF ! Wow , you can read up history ! S.A is rebuilding ????????????????????????????????? Are you sure ????? Besides apartheid gone , what is S.A rebuilding ?? FFS open your eyes !! Just look at ESKOM AND CRIME !!! I`m glad you guys call rebuilding :making a few black people rich , put them in positions just because they are black and then the other 99% starve of hunger !! Well done , keep on rebuilding ! Maybe you went to the same school as malema

Lizzie1/28/2010 5:17 PM: Having been to SA numerous times and my in-laws all being from SA, and being British, I was concerned about how "normal" most families consider it to have bars on the windows, 24 armed security for homes, electric fences, locking security doors to enter the bank, the neighbour being stabbed, and not going out after dark...to mention a few...oh not to mention drink driving (includes drinking while in the car driving too), and people with guns tucked into their jeans. By comparison, I have massive windows and no bars, sometimes I have forgotten to lock the car (in the public car park) and it is still there later, I walk into the bank with no security cabin, people get jailed for drink driving and so take taxis, we don't carry weapons to take money out of the ATM, our armed security is our police force. Yes, I really think the European nationals are entitled to a warning, since some are naively expecting the same safe environment they are used to. Having said that, this apparent negative press? I haven't seen any of it!! Must be only in the SA papers! Oh yes, England is in Britain we are English, but collectively with Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish known as British. I wish more people could get that. Does the article just refer to English in Britain? That's weird..

@ everyone who left and vows never to come back1/28/2010 4:47 PM: I find it interesting that so many people that have absolutely nothing positive to say is sittting in their freezing dark foreign country reading a south african news paper online, and commenting to a story that does not really concern them seeing that they wish to never return. It is pathetic really. You are no longer here. Nothing that happens here concerns you as people like you are the reason the country has problems. Back off and read your pommie papers and leave us who actually care for this country be

Lance1/28/2010 4:41 PM: Oh, and ALL this from Nazis and Dirty/Filthy/Yellow teethy Pommies/Scouzers...yeah right, if you happy and you know it clap your hands clap clap!

The Oracle1/28/2010 4:40 PM: English holligans in soccer hello, dont point at S.A, England, clean your own yard before you start commenting on others.

@ SA in UK1/28/2010 4:38 PM: I am glad to see that you are not coming back. Ever. And if it is so great in the UK, why are you reading South African news papers online and commenting on matters that does not concern you, seeing that you are never coming back. And guess what, we don't want you back. EVER

Lance1/28/2010 4:33 PM: You know what I think, we as South Africans should be warned by our countries about the dangers of going abroad! Human traficking/slavery/HIGH living costs. People who are robbed/highjacked etc fall victim to crimes because of their own neglect, really now, criminals pick easy targets, so maybe your just a dunce becuase I've lived here all my life and so has my fam and nothing happened to us, nothing! You guys arae just stupid, anyway, was a nice game last night, all neighsayers, the time is nearing us, the best event in the world, all ofus will be smiling and enjoying ourselves, you'll be mad and hoping something goes wrong, and it won't lol, pathetic, I wonder what ya'll teach your children, its sick to even think of that!

Shano1/28/2010 4:24 PM: Germany was ruled by a ruthless war mongrel. after he Annihilated 100' of 1000's of people and started world war 2, and lost, with millions of lives lost, america decided to rebuild the country because it believed that western europe should not be communist. 50 years later, Germany is one of the worlds super powers. south africa came out of apartheid with no conflict at all, our people strive for the best, we try our best everyday, our people are some of the friendliest in the world, we have probably the most beautiful country in the world, the government is trying to fight many battles at once and crime is one of them, trying to build rome in 1 day. impossible. it took Germany 50 years to rebuild, and they are still rebuilding, they know where they come from yet they have a lot to say. To all you pessimistic people out there, its time you look back at your roots and give others a chance.

German1/28/2010 4:22 PM: The truth hurts. Nobody can deny that crime in SA is out of control. I realize there is crime wherever you go in the world, but let us face reality; nowhere do we see the amount of barbaric and violent crimes as in SA. High walls surround politicians ,and hundreds of security personal are employed to protect them and the elite. one wonders why? The government will always try to defend it self they pretty good at that. About time, other countries start making comments considering our government always begging for financial assistance.

ATTWELL HOLA1/28/2010 4:22 PM: Shame on them...,the two countries are very envious of South Africa hosting the Worl Cup. Those days of Imperialism are over and they can`t dictate anymore because they are Morons and have Fucked Up Mentalities. AFRICA is growing and developing....HALALA AFRICA..,HALALA..!!!!

Joe1/28/2010 4:08 PM: So FIFA is saying other sovereign countries must NOT warn its citizens of the dangers facing them visiting the most violent, out of control country on the planet? I'd say anybody that gets hurt visiting South Africa during the SWC must SUE FIFA for millions. FIFA chose South Africa, knowing full-well how dangerous and lawless a place it is, and in doing so, put every single person traveling to SA for the SWC at risk. So make sure you line up the sleaziest scumbag lawyers and have them wait in front of FIFA's offices, papers ready.

Pietie1/28/2010 4:07 PM: Die BRITSE REGERING gaan 3000 hooligans tydens die Wêreldbeker uit Suid-Afrika weg hou. (http://www.sport24.co.za/Content/Soccer/WorldCup/383/bbc475ce6ea147d3a09a5eeaa8904e89/26-01-2010-02-24/SWC_ban_on_UK_hooligans) Kan jy nou meer? Ek hoop nie hul neem vir expat en SA in UK onder hande nie.

NN1/28/2010 4:00 PM: Stuff the English and Germans they are the countries moslty responsible for all acts of barberism. they rape and pillage the wealth of all the developing nations then want to preach fair play. This is the only reason they are in privilidged situations. 6million people were not murded in SA because of there religion or ethnicity All the colonies " conquered by the english and the genocide of the previous centuires why do these crimes go unpunnished." South africa is country working construcitvely to remedy the povery econimic dreprevation caused by the English and the Germans, let have some perspective. Proudly SA

thabo1/28/2010 3:53 PM: I think violent crime has reduced alot in SA post 1994. thousands if not millions of our people were being killed by them in a year. Britain bombed innocent people in Iraq. is `nt that violent?

Dizzy Dazz1/28/2010 3:51 PM: I suspect that a large amount of bad press comes from expat South Africans like "SA in UK" who try to justify their choice of living abroad by unfairly critisising their ex country that they abandonned without trying to help make things better. I too live in England at present & can assure you that you are hardly safe from rape, robbery & murder in this scummy chav nation. I say to the soap shy filthy poms & sour krauts - rather stay at home. SWC does not need your hooligans invading our shores & ruining a great world cup for all the open minded people. "SA in UK" - Have a nice day inspite of yourself

Pietie1/28/2010 3:51 PM: Tipies, dit is nou al weer die Afrikaanse ekspêts (daai Engels, daai Engels...) wat die suurste druiwe het. Siestog, julle mis seker die 'goeie ou dae'. Ek settle maar vir bragging writes en onbetaalbare sokkerkaartjies (R 140-00)...

gman1/28/2010 3:51 PM: Crime may be is out of hand but it beats a muddy wet little island! I 'm all for world cup in sunny beautiful country

Popeye1/28/2010 3:46 PM: Since the start of the Iraq war 133 000 people wer killed. No, not there , here in South Africa ! USA lost aprox 4000 troops and aprox 30 000 Iraq citizens were killed......

Raymund1/28/2010 3:42 PM: Statements like 'Africa is what it is' indicates the general ignorance regarding the continent. It seems as if the foreign press and European forum users consider the entire continent, whether it is the Sudan, DRC, Mocambique or Botswana as a single entity. As South Africans we've been bombarded with dreadful World Cup scenarios since we won the bid in 2004: we will never be ready on time, the stadiums will not be built, it would be too expensive, no tickets will sell etc, etc. There were chain e-mails sent with pictures of township soccer pitches. When we were ready for the Confederations Cup, there were fears of stadium stampedes, of rioters insisting to gain access to stadiums... It didn't happen. South Africa has problems, it is not a developed country, it does have crime. But it is definately not the uninhabitable, crazy country that it is depicted to be. Johannesburg may not be Stockholm, but it is not Kabul either. South Africa should rather be compared to Brazil (host of the 2014 World Cup, and 2016 Olympic Games), a country which will probably face, and overcome, the same negativity we will. I am grateful that there are still people like Sepp Blatter who take big risks to promote what they believe in, that there are still governments like South Africa's that can have a vision of a better future, and who has the imagination to strive for it despite severe criticism. Those that cannot afford to come to the World Cup in SA, or who are afraid of what they might find when they get here, can watch us on television. Those that do come will find a wonderful, peaceful, country. They will be met by a generally proud, pasionate, generous and friendly people. They will experience something that they will not be able to ever again, or in any other place. We are a small country, and something beautiful is happening to us. I truly believe that we will pleasantly surprise both the world and ourselves in June 2010. Raymund, Pretoria.

JMSN1/28/2010 3:20 PM: VIVA FIFA VIVA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE NEED FAIR PLAY FROM THE STEREOTYPES.Show me a country without crime, STOP BEING NEGATIVE, SA IS GONNA HOST A VERY FANTASTIC & SUCCESFUL WORLD CUP.

SA in UK1/28/2010 3:18 PM: I've read some of the comments and am amazed that you are actually trying to defend a country that is in shambles. I currently live in the UK ( for 7 years now) and would honestly never return to the boundries of SA to live in. How are we suppose to return to a country with the internal figures showing that crime is out of control. Now luckily I don't have to worry about getting raped, or my son getting killed or my husband for that matter. I still love the country but until they realize that there is something really wrong, and I don't care who it is hopefully someone with more sense than what we have now, I will not recommend anyone to go there. Ever!!!! I will not return and bring my family back to no money, no jobs (because we are too white) or for that matter security. The rest of my family still lives their and I hear all the news so no suprises that the rest of the world is saying what they are. No thanks I'm stying right where I am. Until you have been touched by crime you cannot comment on how and why we live and breath outside SA.

Jack1/28/2010 3:16 PM: To be fair to England, I really don't know where mr Valcke got his 'facts' from. I live in England and I don't recall seeing any warning against travel to SA. England will have the largest touring contingent to the SWC again. English fans flocked to SA for both the LIONS tour and the recent cricket tour. They usually spend a shedload of money as well so I'm a little bemused by all the apparent hatred thrown at them by people posting on these forums.

James1/28/2010 3:15 PM: Why all this hype? Because unlike the rugby and cricket fraternity you had to have new stadiums and other non-essentials that cost SA billions it cannot afford. That's all down to the FIFA rip off artists who now bleat because they have egg on their face. SA can't avoid its crime reputation but many will still come and had the already more than adequate stadiums in SA been used it would have been a success like the rugby and cricket. But now South African will be left a legacy of debt so lets starting blaming everyone else to cover up this gross stupidity. I can't think of any other city in the world where two massive stadiums are next door to each other like Durban. Last week 2 items on the BBC focussed on crime and one asked England supporters to wear knife proof vests. Shouldn't that have been bulet proof or AK47 proof. Cricket fans got mugged at knofe point and things like this unfortunately do get spread around. The governmet should have been more pro-active years ago in fighting crime instead of playing the racism card. God help the South African who face rolling mass black outs and massive repayment bills. Well done FIFA - you of course will be smiling having sucked millions out of the country.

GPC1/28/2010 3:11 PM: Why don't you like it FIFA? Compared to their statistics, SA is very bad when it comes to safety, that reality. Okay Eng and Germany aren't exactly angels, but they're nowhere near SA levels. Bring down everyday crime levels for your people SA, then they'll change their tune. Why only provide safety when WC is here?

Craig1/28/2010 2:56 PM: Shame on South Africa for allowing these criminals to give us the bad name we have internationally, and Shame on those who support the criminals by trying to hide the fact that we have an extremely violent crime problem. England, Germany and all the other nations who have taken steps to warn and protect their citizen while at the WC should be applauded, FIFA's problem with this is that they may lose out financially, greedy, despicable scumbags don't give a damn about the players or spectators.

RL1/28/2010 2:55 PM: i think the sad and obvious point being missed is that despite all the negatives about South Africa, and there are more than enough, we've nevertheless achieved amazing feats ... no one likes a constant whinger in any establishment, so please stop already. terrorist attacks and hooliganism are weekly occurrences globally, lest we forget all the reports on incest in Europe, fathers raping daughters, forcing them to have abortions, threatening them with murder etc … so lest you be the first to cast the stone. we acknowledge that south africa is not exempt ... long story short, before you spew up more harrowing stats answer the question ... what have you done to make south africa better place?

@Sox1/28/2010 2:54 PM: @Sox, you're saying that crime was high in the townships during apartheid...? What you're actually saying that blacks living in townships etc have been savage, barbaric perpetrators of violent crime all along. That's exactly what the rest of world needed to hear, prior to coming here to enjoy the football. So, it seems as though all the so called whingers etc were right afterall...hmmm, interesting - makes sense as to why there was apartheid in the first place.

Casey Smith1/28/2010 2:45 PM: UK football spectators will see 1st hand how Police handle unrully people

expat1/28/2010 2:44 PM: Shameless well said Mate, to lion heart you got it wrong it should be Circus Lion Heart, you clown, we have left we are happy and don't long to come back, we are only trying to EDUCATE you, there are better places and safer places than SA. The rest of the world does not care about you only consurned what they can get form you. Your natureal minerals, other than that tey dont give a dam. Truth Love to see you walk in the park at 10:00 in the day never mind the evening, and see how positive you are.

Steve1/28/2010 2:36 PM: Well done to England & Germany. They are the only ones who see this cr*p for what it is. It's about time that the outside world starts boycotting SA, like in the Apartheid days, in order to force change. Sorry, I forgot, the ANC is doing no wrong, how could I suggest this?

lion heart 1/28/2010 2:35 PM: say what you's want to the world cup will be held in this country. your comments dont change anything

Biltong in Paris1/28/2010 2:29 PM: I am South African and I live in Paris. I miss SA every day, because we have what the Europeans will never have. Friendliness, open spaces, beautiful weather and we care bout each other. Here you can be lonely like hell even though you are in one of the biggest cities in the world. But, then they have things here that we don't have in SA. A social security system and basic standard of living for everybody, and crime that is nowhere near as bad as in SA in terms of numbers and in terms of severity. In the end, I will come back to SA and rather face the crime, because life is still better there. However, having experience of Australia, it is like SA without the crime. My young daughter could not sleep at night after burglars broke into her best friend's house, no matter how much you reason with a child, you cannot take that fear away. It doesn't make SA bad, I still believe it is the best country in the world, but it does mean that we have a problem. It is like an alcoholic. He might be a wonderful person, much nicer than the guy next door who beats his wife or whatever, but he still has an alcohol problem and he has to do something about it. It is not about saying who or what is better or worse, it is about looking at yourself and saying, no matter what my neighbor does, I still have a problem. So, SA need to face the crime problem.

expat1/28/2010 2:24 PM: Heres a few facts to be considered for those very positive South Africans. What will the average SA gain from the world cup? Nothing but the mear braging write to say the world cup was held in SA, mabe if they are lucky a ticket to a game, have to break the bank to pay for that. Sorry for you if you don't live in a city where the games are taking place. What has it meant for a few SA ? Temporary employment now we are getting to read all the sad storys of them loosing there jobs. What has it cost the average SA? Increase in municipal rates, increase in fuel tax, increase in licencing motor cars" to pay for roads", increase in electricity, increase toll road fea, increase in airfair - rental cars,increase in food price.Who gained from the world cup the organizing committee, Danny and Irvan a sallary of ± 2 mill per year for the last eight years, yes eight minimum years. Who will sit in the nice soft seat, have eats and drinks, meat the players, Irvan and Danny and there family and friends where will you sit behind the goal post on a hard seat. Who will pay for your ticket? YOU, who will pay for Danny, Irvan and there family and friends tickets ? YOU Can you affrod all the increases you now need to pay for? NO Can they afford it? YES because you have just paid for it. Will I be comming to SA for the world cup, thought about it, still up in the air as I am a soccer player who has played at a high level in SA, not quite Chiefs or Bucks or the Birds or Sundowns but been there. For me and a family of 4 to dangerous, lets forget about money. I am leaning more to the idea of spending my holiday stress free on an Island watching it on the big screen with local and friends non violent less stress and "cheaper". What will happen to SA after the world cup ? We will read all the sad stories of job loss, increase in rate to pay for maintenance to the White Elephant stadiums, failed music conserts, poor turn out at games, negative reporting about SA. Danny and Irvan will have all the answers"excuses", but more importantly they will have your cash. Blatter will declare it a success, because how can any CEO declare a failure, lick his wounds and move on to Brasil and that will be the last that you see of him.

realist1/28/2010 2:15 PM: Of course those two countries have more g....l immigrants here than any other country, so maybe they are a bit prejudiced? Or think they are well informed?

Craig1/28/2010 1:59 PM: And the racism continues, because Germany and Britain have warned their citizens, quite correctly so, of the violence they may encounter, you spew out all this disgusting racism and your moronic comment of "if you don't like it leave" reminds me so much of the Apartheid Nationalist Party, if it wasn't for the naysayers in those days, the change from a "Nazi styled state" to a "free for all" South Africa may never have come about so peacefully. As for some of the stats that some of you have come out with, what comic did you get them from, worst violent crime rate in the world minus murder, how can you minus murder, how more violent can you get, what is the figure for rape? 1 every 3 minutes, thats higher than the crime rate in the whole of Europe. Violent crime in Europe includes assault, muggings, bag snatching and house breaking, these are misdeamenor crimes in SA. As for SA been safer than other African countries, what utter nonsense, Botswana, Swaziland, Namibia, Lesotho, Zimbabwe and Mozambique are much safer places to stay with a much lower crime rate. Before one of you geniuses come up with the highly intellegent response of " leave if your not happy", I already have and live in a neighbouring state with no burglar bars gaoling me in my own home.

Shameless1/28/2010 1:42 PM: The more I read some of the comments in this column, the more I realise that we are a very mixed up people. To criticise people for telling the truth and even implying they are unpatriotic is ridiculous. The people who deserve the mantle of unpatriotic should be the government who have allowed our country to become the crime capital of the world. A wise man once said “ a country gets the government it deserves” ! The shame is not eng and germany but on our own door step.

Ah beg yaws...1/28/2010 1:35 PM: Sepp Blatter will never ever make this mistake again, first and last time. Africa is what it is......

lion heart 1/28/2010 1:31 PM: hey nick armstrong and friends what r you'll doing here go for greener pastures those who went long's to comeback, COWARDS JUDAS

JJB1/28/2010 1:28 PM: All these people who are so bitter and twisted about everything should have very little doubt why their personal lives are not strewn with roses. If you are continuously spewing venom, you should not expect moonlight and roses.

lol@everyone1/28/2010 1:26 PM: lol@the people that say crime is the same in Europe as it is in SA lol@the people that say those that moan should leave lol@the blacks that are turning this into a 'white man's argument lol@the people who say that the SWC is going to be a success lol@the people who think tourists will not be targets You are all morons who should educate yourselves before commenting. Just don't go to a school in SA

DISCWORLD1/28/2010 1:24 PM: I wouldnt come here either if I lived in Europe or England or Aus or NZ. Bheki Cele is all bek and no substance, couldnt sort out a fart in a wet paper bag if he tried, same applies to Nathi and Fikile.

Trev1/28/2010 1:22 PM: The country is not safe!!!. In the last ten years I have been held up at gunpoint in my home.My wife was dragged out of bed by the hair.My son was robbed and assaulted within 100metres of our home.He has now emigrated. I have been held up in three further armed robberies.My wifes car has been stolen.She has also been subjected to three attempted hijackings. I have been the victim of two smash and grabs, my house has been broken into four times. Safe for tourists. JOKE !!.

Truth1/28/2010 1:19 PM: I'd love to be venomously profain about those who live in SA but constantly bad-mouth our country; however it won't make me any different from them, so I'll be as diplomatic as possible. The sad thing about all these negative comments is that they are made by people who make emotional judgements. And funny enough, those very same people are those that were, and still are sheltered from the reality of other people's lives. But despite this, the quality of South Africa's citizens in unsurpassed by any other. We have a love/hate relationship with our beloved country, and one day all of you who constantly bad-mouth SA will wake up to the fact that you've missed out on a lot because you deny yourselves the pleasure of contributing to, and enjoying, our nation-building victories.

Trev1/28/2010 1:19 PM: The country is not safe!!!. In the last ten years I have been held up at gunpoint in my home.My wife was dragged out of bed by the hair.My son was robbed and assaulted within 100metres of our home.He has now emigrated. I have been held up in three further armed robberies.My wifes car has been stolen.She has also been subjected to three attempted hijackings. I have been the victim of two smash and grabs, my house has been broken into four times. Safe for tourists. JOKE !!.

Dave Mel1/28/2010 1:19 PM: @ Tazz.. check out Shawns comment 1/28/2010 12:50 PM.... you don't have to hate the country to realise it's unsafe you dimwit...

Dave Mel1/28/2010 1:14 PM: @ Tazz... keep driving your toyota.. at least no one will Hi-jack that piece of crap

Unathi1/28/2010 1:11 PM: AT LAST LET THE WORLD WAKE UP TO THE ARMED ROBBERIES, MURDERS,HIJACKINGS AND ON AND ON THAT ARE RUINING A BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY. MAYBE THE GOVERNMENT CAN WAKE UP TO THE FEAR WE LIVE IN EVERY DAY OF OUR LIVES. BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY

Nick Armstrong1/28/2010 1:09 PM: @ expat: Well said mate! Perfectly put. The truth. Let the whole world know how the savage criminals carry on here in SA (and the politicians with their policies of AA/BEE etc) - and the rest of sub-Saharan Africa for that matter! Let the truth spread to all corners of the globe - so when more white SA's apply for assylum - granting it will be that much easier - as the world will finally really know what's going on here...

ZA.de1/28/2010 1:07 PM: I am a German and I am proudly South African. We will deliver the best SWC ever and we will do all of us who love this wonderful country proud. Ayoba!

Sandza1/28/2010 1:04 PM: Whatever is said, no matter how much of a NEGATIVE comments they publish, OUR COUNTRY is too beautiful not to visit and what a GREAT SWC it will be. The people in Hollywood are backing and supporting the SA 2010 SWC. we are looking forward to hosting a wonderful SWC ever. We promise all those with NEGATIVE comments a brilliant SWC through broadcast cause they are not welcomed HERE in RSA. Need I say more about our landscapes, humanity(FORGET THE THUGS) and of course the Beautiful GAME.

itchee knutts1/28/2010 1:03 PM: this is a great country.... check this out with: SAbeer Shake, Whiny Madela, Showerhead JZ, MamPara Malema..... they are really positive about SA... for me, no presidential gaurd, no safe home, no safe roads, uncertain electricity, uncertain labour force... rampant fraud in goverment, poor health facilities, poor local schooling... golden handshakes to criminals... should i go on... I hope the soccer is a dismal failure and moves back to the townships where it belongs. To all those who believe we are safe and secure WAKE UP and SMELL THE ROSES while you can... i certainly would not travel to this country or any other similar to SA to watch our local barbarians blowing shit down my neck through there voovoo whateva's riddled with TB etc etc........... for the record this is becoming an inhumane society. EAT MY SHORTS!

The Rock1/28/2010 1:01 PM: Why does the truth always hurt ?? Most of SA tourists come from Germany & UK so they have experience of what goes on in this country.Why should they not warn their people about the truth. Wake up guys. No one said it will not be a success. Get your facts right.

The Rock1/28/2010 12:59 PM: Why does the truth always hurt ?? Most of SA tourists come from Germany & UK so they have experience of what goes on in this country.Why should they not warn their people about the truth. Wake up guys. No one said it will not be a success. Get your facts right.

Wayne G1/28/2010 12:59 PM: As a South African expat who has lived in England for the past 10years I cant help but laugh at the finger pointing of the POMS with regards to the crime rate in South Afrca, just last night while watching the Man United v Man City Carling Cup Semi Final the whole world witnessed Craig Bellamy of Man City getting bombarded and injured by bottles and coins thrown at him by angry Man United supporters. The news papers and T.V. have different cases to tell of murder, rape,theft and other cases of crime on a daily bases within Britain never mind the terrorist attacks that are immenent???. Who fooling who?????.

Stay Away1/28/2010 12:57 PM: Well I am a normal guy living in JHB. I have had 16 burglaries, 2 armed robberies, 2 hijackings, I shot at people in my house 5 times (hitting them 3 out of those 5), I have stabbed 2 in self defence (no not all black people!!!!). Out of six good friends I have here, G's father has been hijacked twice, B has been beaten up in his house, the robbers returned and he shot them, K's father was hijacked twice he shot one and in turn was shot and killed, G's parents were attacked and beaten up in their home and he has been hijacked once, B was attacked in his home and his wife gang raped, G was attacked at home and beaten up... What part of DANGEROUS PLACE don't you understand? We have a wonderful country, BUT.... it is very dangerous at this time. The responsible thing to do is to warn those that don’t know. My advice is to STAY AWAY. Is it worth taking the chance?

Shawn1/28/2010 12:50 PM: I am totally behind my Country in this world cup and I hope we prove everyone wrong and this ends up being the best world cup ever, but we also have to say that SA is not safe, little doubt about that

Ngwato a Ngwato1/28/2010 12:39 PM: All I'd like to say is.......we are ready and prepared to host this beautiful tournament with or without the Germans and Englands blessings.For once I have realised how much hatred those Naziz and Pomes have towards this beautiful country of ours.Lets get it on South Africans with those who have faith in us like we have shown with many other events before.I love South Africa and all its citizens and would be offering my services to my country to make sure our visitors are happy and safe untill they return to their respective countries.

expat1/28/2010 12:32 PM: I have to agree with the statment that SA is not a safe place. I have read many of the comments good and bad but South Africans black and white have to realize that they are responsible for the bad publisity themselves. 1. In most countries they will steal your wallet or phone - in SA they will steal your wallet or phone, rape you, deform you. 2. Read Europen news papers and compare crime. Who rapes a helpless 80 odd year old woman, who rapes 3 yaer olds. Who breaks into your house steals your stuff, rapes you ties up your husband to watch and then kills the whole family. Well done SA and then you wonder why people don't want to come to the world cup. 3. Yes the world cup will be a sucess for the players and organizers, they are all protected nothing will happen to them but the average Jo Soap fan from around the world stands a good chance of experiancing the real SA. 4. To all those IDIOTS who have passed comments about the people that have let SA well, we have tasted a better life with out violent crime, We sleep with bothe eyes closed and wake up alive and the car still parked in the drive way. Until you have left SA and lived that life keep those negative comments to your self, I have just spent time in Thailand and would much rather live there than in SA. 5. For the guy who lashed out at England, but lived there for 6 years what an IDIOT, it took you 6 years to realize England is not a nice place and you think people will respect you opinion. 6. One and a half year out of SA and I have saved the equivalet of a Million Rand. God Bless Africa

Nick Armstrong1/28/2010 12:31 PM: The foreign media is right. I am glad that finally, thanks to the exposure of the SWC - that the world's media is focussed on what is REALLY going here in SA - and the TRUTH is getting out. How white South Africans are butchered, murdered, raped, baby-raped by black South Africans by the thousands each year. (Truth - witness the farm attacks, attacks in the homes of people, hi-jackings etc etc etc around the country!). That the country's infrastructure slides into decline (see Eskom, road networks, railways, water supply and sewerage systems maintenance etc etc etc) - while they enforce policies like BEE/ AA etc etc - to the economic detriment of SA. Fact. That's why Mr. Huntley was quite within his right to ask for assylum in Canada from the direct and 'low-key' assault on whites in SA (witness, too, the dismantling of white culture - eg the changing of place names - even those as innocous as Nelspruit and Ellisras). So - yes - good on the foreign media for telling the truth - for embarrassing the ANC govt - who thinks it has a 'moral lead' upon the global stage when it comes to 'fair and equitable' and 'opportunities for all'. Then, too, let the people come here and see the truth for themselves...

MXO1/28/2010 12:27 PM: I'm really dissapointed with the negative comments above, especailly coming 4rm our own South Africans. I mean SA has hosted big tournaments before i.e 95 Rugby WC, 2003 Cricket WC; ICC T20 WC; IPL to name the few and there was big support 4 them and hosted them succesfully. Why is it now that we about to host the FIFA WC, there are so many negatives? How many robberies, murders, rapes etc were reported? It seems 2 me some people are hoping the event is unsuccesful. This is just my opinion.

dwain1/28/2010 12:17 PM: I'm really baffled as to why people are making a big fuss out of our crime stats.everyone knew that we have a high crime rate before awarding us the world cup.besides no one is forcing anyone to come.and you locals that say we have a lawless barbaric country,why dont u move to a country with laws?as simple as that

MACK THE SOUTH AFRICAN1/28/2010 12:11 PM: We ,the wonderful mixed grill nation we are ,can give any european the greatest hospitality feast possible in the world.Our Stadia are going to be tops !Our winter weather is better than most country's summers.BUT .....our crime is WAY out of control ,and many of the perpetrators are pshycotic.(legacy of our past ) and there is no denying it.ALL IS NOT LOST HOWEVER !!!!!! Yes ,Ive been very negative in the past -what did it help ?what did it achieve ?Sentiments like we see in England ,and Germany,were born from it .If we look back 120 years are these people really the example to follow ?Boer wars ? the jewish holocaust and two world wars ,We can help prevent 99% of anything bad happening.Our destiny is in our own hands .These criminals are our brothers ,friends and fathers ,we know them ,and should deliver them to the law -without a moments thought ! It is the correct thing to do ! We have the problem ,yes ,but we have the solution .Lets stop running ourselves into the ground ,and for once in 2010 ,on each and every front unite as the nation depicted in Invictus.That is after all who the real people of MZANZI are !Lets leave the Brits to the brits ,and the krauts to the krauts -they have a moral obligation to warn thier citizens - but report that incident you see , and harbour no criminal ,and come AUGUST ,the world will have to admit ,we proved them wrong ! Viva South Africa !

anon1/28/2010 12:09 PM: and most of SA still supports English soccer ..... Sundowns fan

Zamzam1/28/2010 12:04 PM: Samsam if thats the police strategy on the war on crime, arrest zimbos, then no wonder we have such high levels of crime in sa. Are you telling me that of all the dangerous criminals out there all of them are zimbos, mozas etc? I read the paper everyday and the ratio of foreigners against local south africans arrested for various crimes is very negligable, people from outside our borders work hard, are intelligent and are the most loyal people to have around, so please dont flutter yourself, we south africans need to do something about crime. i guess according to you foreigners looted their shops and burnt themeselves in 2008?

Andre1/28/2010 12:03 PM: Jealousy makes you nasty. Shame on you England/Germany..Cos they know what we know, SWC 2010 will be the most successful WC ever! Cmon SA lets prove all the doomsayers wrong! Again..

@SOX1/28/2010 12:01 PM: So Sox, doesn't that tell you something? (you said that crime was high in the townships in the Apartheid years, but we didn't know about it, and now we're all feeling it?) Crime came out to the whole country when the blacks were allowed out of the townships? is that what you're saying? stop talking trash about whites, and calling racism whenever anyone criticises our high crime. It's the highest in the world. Full stop.

Anti-NSA1/28/2010 12:01 PM: That yellow shirt looks all too much like a banana. It fits the banana banana and also this Banana republic -Mzanzi, Azania which went to the dogs and is nothing to be proud of. The vuvuzela you can stick into you Dompela, Malema. They will get nowhere. Germany-über alles!

Oupahen1/28/2010 11:56 AM: WHO WILL GO TO A COUNTRY WHERE THEY MURDER 50 PEOPLE A DAY !!!!

Anti-NSA1/28/2010 11:53 AM: At least the German Uli speaks the truth and doesn't do PR like Danny, Sepp & co. Let them see photo's of the cruel, brutal murders on farmers & other whites in SA - and that for nothing, cell phone or few rand- that's the difference between petty theft elsewhere and mentality in Africa.

Andre1/28/2010 11:49 AM: Jealousy makes you nasty. Shame on you England/Germany..Cos they know what we know, SWC 2010 will be the most successful WC ever! Cmon SA lets prove all the doomsayers wrong! Again..

Bodulo1/28/2010 11:48 AM: Kobus, I can't bilieve you hate our country so much, do us a favour please. MOVE! we do't need you!

kakarantz1/28/2010 11:41 AM: yes, please can the Poms and the Germans stay away. More tickets for us. Who cares if SA is going down the tubes, after the SWC we all leave. First, money to be made.

Derek1/28/2010 11:38 AM: It is England (UK) that has in the last week raised their terrorism alert, not South Africa.

Sox1/28/2010 11:35 AM: Jealousy makes you nasty all you player hater's, if a white man was in charge in SA most of will be singing different tune, crime was always high during apartheid in the townships but you did'nt expirence it cause you were living like kings now we all the same you have much to say funny.

Fred1/28/2010 11:34 AM: Blame England and Germany for SA's rampant crime problem instead of doing something about it, why yes that seems so typical for the All New Criminals and FUFU. "Pass the buck marmalade, Jacob please" Hey we're number two! Woot! Woot! http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_percap-crime-murders-per-capita

Toerist1/28/2010 11:31 AM: Are there store etc in Africa? I thought they where still living underneath a palmtree... I think most of them just have never been there. Show them arround in SA and they don't want to go back anymore :)

@dee1/28/2010 11:25 AM: "FYI.We have Ferrari's, Maserati's,BMW's....Boss, so if if we are a bad country then why do have such luxuries" This is not the issue......The real issue is trying to hang onto these items!

revaro 1/28/2010 11:24 AM: whit every other thing in life there wil be bad publicity but south africa wil be succesfull this is only one of many major events we gonna host the best ever we host thosands of foreigners every year for the last 300 years we will be the best ever cause its africa the place to be history wil be made

@@Emile1/28/2010 11:22 AM: Dream on!!! No time to argue with an idiot. There is NO comparisson in the levels or forms of crime between SA & ENG. Get your facts and stastistics in order before you comment again. You must be the only person feeling safe in SA or for that matter - feeling safer here than in any other country. Good heavens, what a plonker.

Dan1/28/2010 11:22 AM: Black Soccer Fan, for your info, the WC is in South Africa. Mzasi???? I think you need to try and pass Matric geography first. Stupid comments like these which confuse foreigners even more...

Nimrod1/28/2010 11:20 AM: All and specifically we will get you. Would you think that it is a recommendation to go to South Africa when there are 51 murders a day compared to the 2 a day in the UK??? 42,000 are already coming from the UK !!!Sure, there are threats of Terrorist attacks in the UK but considering 280,000 people fly in the Heathrow alone every day, I think they have done a good job in protecting their people? Really clever idea to try and warn people about not going to the Olympics in London!!

Jannie1/28/2010 11:20 AM: Can't wait for the World Cup to begin. Viva Bafana Bafana!

Badbones1/28/2010 11:18 AM: STOP them from coming to the world cup ...... true Limmies and crouts .....he he he ...... and THEY want to piont fingers at us ..... what a joke .......

Tazz1/28/2010 11:17 AM: At DaveMel: What the fuc..k are you still doing in SA then.Get the Fu..ck of to Germany or England see If we care

mel1/28/2010 11:12 AM: Even though the anc try to hide the crime and violence, the facts are there. People dont just up and leave thier home country for a kick. There is a propblem in SA and if people do not wish to put thier lives on the line to see something that can be seen on TV then they wont. Besides the crime, you people are the greedyest bunch. Here we can get a domestic flight for 20 euro . You want to charge 500 euro just to get to DBN from JHB. You are killing your own industry. As far as the rent goes, what a crock. R4000 a night for a room. Are you insane? Before you BLAME others for your faliures, see the other fingers pointing at you. Sort out all the hatred, crime, prices etc and maybe you would get some people there and not animales who just want to murder and steel and hate people for thier skin colour for something that happened 20 years ago.

@ Proudly South African1/28/2010 11:07 AM: What justice system dude? The same one that found Winnie guilty without her spending 1 day in jail? The same one that found Shabir Shaik terminally ill? Come on, don't be a total joker!!!

samsam1/28/2010 11:06 AM: Born and bred in SA, I dont want to be defensive as I have been a victim of crime on monday evening. The only ppl messing up our country are Zimbabweans, Moz etc eg Ananias Mathes who arrive in this country without permits, yes police are are trying their best but they cannt stop hungry Zimbabweans, the only solution is to sort out Zim

Dave Mel1/28/2010 11:00 AM: Sad thing is, it is a dangerous country....

Black soccer fan1/28/2010 10:59 AM: You can moan and moan o ku salayo, SWC is here in Mzasi or Azania, Europe said many negative things about SWC 1994 In USA but it was a success, the some with Mzasi, I have my new Bafana T-shirt and vuvuzela ready for Mzasi SWC 2010 in my motherland, before Aus, Canada, China, Russia and India, Mzasi is making history we are holding the torch of hope for Africa. God bless Africa.

SB 1/28/2010 10:57 AM: Hahahahahaha dis is so funny because we always recive high number of Tourists from dis countries . But we pray for this event to be succesful .

Cas, my final post on the SWC1/28/2010 10:56 AM: To all the real South Africans, lets not generalise and attack Germany as a country or England and to my non white countrymen lets apply the same to our white brothers living here or abroad. Not everyone hates RSA or doesn’t want the SWC to happen. I can guarantee you that our white brothers will be well represented at the stadiums and fan parks. One just have to look at the Confed cup, it was a true rainbow nation. It was cool to see so many white Families dressed in Bafana gear and blowing their vuvuzella's and yes even they kids had vuvuzellas. They do still need some practice on how to blow it.LMAO.So people lets stop responding to these negative post. There are other forums where people actually debate issues in a more civilised way.News24’ is just fuelling what already volatile situation.

Black soccer fan1/28/2010 10:56 AM: You can moan and moan o ku salayo, SWC is here in Mzasi or Azania, Europe said many negative things about SWC 1994 In USA but it was a success, the some with Mzasi, I have my new Bafana T-shirt and vuvuzela ready for Mzasi SWC 2010 in my motherland, before Aus, Canada, China, Russia and India, Mzasi is making history we are holding the torch of hope for Africa. God bless Africa.

SB 1/28/2010 10:54 AM: Hahahahahaha dis is so funny because we always recive high number of Tourists from dis countries . But we pray for this event to be succesful .

Nick1/28/2010 10:52 AM: We as South Africans like to vent about negative issues that occurr in South Africa, and that is normal otherwise pressure builds up. It is totally unacceptable that countries outside of Africa make comments like this. As South Africans we will all get behind our Soccer Team, the same way as we all got behind Rugby and cricket. We will prove to England and Germany that we can host a successfull world cup, this way they will have to apologise for any comments made so far. Let the egg roll on their faces, because it will definite not roll on ours. Viva South Africa Viva.

vukuvuku1/28/2010 10:51 AM: I dont understand the hatred some white people have for anything good a black man is trying to achieve. Some white South Africans commenting on these platforms are very confused. We are going to host the SWC succesfully, with or without their support. To those who are positive, lets hold our hands together with one spirit and make this beautiful country work. With the help of GOD we will survive. My little advise to those negative boffins, they might as well look for the nearest guava tree and hang themselves for all I care. 2010 swc will be a great success.

Will GetYou1/28/2010 10:51 AM: So, DK thinks the 'majority of South Africans' are criminals. Wonder what he is. But as for the Brits, let's bombard them ahead of London 2012 Olympics - tell the world how dangerous it would be for people to visit the UK - take into consideration any possible terror attacks, even if they occur in Germany or Spain. Make note of any crime incidents and let's warn people to stay away from the UK because their lives are at risk

Dee1/28/2010 10:47 AM: FYI - we have Ferrari's/Maserati's/BMW's/MERC's?GUCCI/LEVI's/JIMMY CHOO/HUGO BOSS (to name a few) outlets here....so if we are a bad country then why do we have such luxuries? Honestly i feel sorry for those who think negatively cos once the world cup is over they will be kicking themselves in the a$$ for not making an effort and for sh!ting on our beautiful country. you will never find such a wonderful place to live elsewhere...Y? becasue we are UNIQUE and we LOVE it...You know what there is this thing (it's AMAZING) it's called GOOGLE. try it sometime and then you will see what we have to offer...personally I wouldnt feel safe in any other country...simply becasue I've never been there and i dont know the place but it doesnt mean im not going to go there because of what i heard...it's all opinions...stop following and lead....u have 1 life (unless ur special) so LIVE IT! SA is lovely and Cape Town is fabulous :-) come on give it a shot...you'll have fun...be friends with the locals and you'll have an experience of a life time :-)

Mainstay1/28/2010 10:47 AM: Crime happens to everyone, no matter race or nationality in SA. In Germany the risk of being murdered for your cell phone is basically 0%. We can blame the ANC, NP, and all in government present and past but its out own fault. Most other countries in Africa have a much lower murder rate then SA, why? its our culture. Soccer or like they call it football will take place, there might be a few open seats, FIFA will not make as much money as they wanted, and a few tourist will be killed, lot more locals. That is just the fact of life.

Stephanie1/28/2010 10:46 AM: Those English people who judge SA should rather look at their own country first which is completely on the brink of collapsing in every regard, including safety and security. People are still naive to think Britian is safe. If one look at all the horror stories coming from Britian then it sounds like a mini- SA or even worse. Britian even overtook Russia as Europe's most dangerous country to live in and that says alot about their safety and security standards. So to the Poms who judge us before the world cup even started, first address your own country's crime situation before you point to SA. At least the people of the world are aware of our crime stats and they come to SA knowing that they have to be careful while in the case of Britian, the people of the world believe it is safe only to discover otherwise when they are there. So keep quiet, we will rock the world with our uber-super (to the Gemans) SWC.

Rich1/28/2010 10:46 AM: Richard, now now, I said "That's final!"

normal with connie1/28/2010 10:46 AM: I have a huge SA family and we're all proudly South African . Many of us travel the world but not one of us would like to move. And yes many of can! I work in a multi-national company. The company and the family and my friends have hosted many international visitors on a continuous basis, many of whom have had terrible experiences in their own countries. They are always positively suprised that we dont live in fear and that they have been safe albeit cautious.(And that doesnt mean living behind locked doors and high fences) I am proud to state that I personally dont know of ANYONE who has been a victim of anything other than petty theft, nor does anyone of my acquaintance. I am also proud to know many of those visitors are now residents of our beautiful country. This isnt to say violent crime doesnt happen. It just isnt as bad as the press and expats make it out to be. Everyone always quotes OLD stats - we're getting better - so it feels - and the rest of the world worse - so it seems if I can believe the press stories I read.

Rich1/28/2010 10:45 AM: Richard, now now, I said "That's final!"

nigel1/28/2010 10:42 AM: @richard, well said...I think that the WC will be fantastic, heaven help the criminals if they get caught touching a tourist. Also to those crying about post WC security...have u not considered for one second that the WC may just be the beginning of a real & continued effort the sort crime out in SA. I live in CT & I see a huge improvement in Policing over the last 6 months, & others report similar improvements in PTA & other places.

crimless1/28/2010 10:41 AM: There is not a crime problem here???...maybe I just imagined getting assaulted and pistol whipped in my house yesterday as 5 criminals broke in and then stole most of my possesions..AND THE SAD THING IS EVERYONE SAYS "AT LEAST YOU ARE STILL ALIVE AND BE GRATEFULL YOU WIFE WAS NOT HOME OR SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN RAPED" I used to boast how awesome this country was..not anymore..I will advise anyone not to come here. CRIME IS TOTALY OUT OFF HAND!!

john1/28/2010 10:33 AM: Oh, dont worry, they'll all come running! If not for the soccer, then certainly for our beautifull black babes! hehehe After all,- what happens in Africa stays in Africa - Right? Just remember to insist on condoms.....

@RICH 1/28/2010 10:31 AM: Are the Indians also walking around safely at night, does the natives feel like they belong in Australia. does that family murdered victims still sleep in Australia. People say we have our heads in the sand. China you are not an Australian you are a coward who at the first sign of smoke choose to run away. and yes you as a white men had a hand in creating this situation. You created it and ran now you sitting over there and point fingers. I have allot of respect for people who actually stayed in this country and together we will make it work , once we have dealt with it you’ll be back. You know what Australia is using you , you are like they prostitute.I hope you tell you children the truth as to way you left and what you did before you ran like B@@#$%C

John1/28/2010 10:30 AM: South Africa is indeed not a safe country. I have been a victim of crime so many times. Last 2 incidents 2 burgaliers in 4 months. But I must keep my mouth shut & smile! NOT!

Johann the German1/28/2010 10:30 AM: I apologise for my countrymen who give unjust criticism on South Africa, bit perhaps they have a point to some degree. It is also clear from most posts that law abiding South Africans are frustrated. I visit SA about a year. I love it! Best climate and wonderfull people of all races. Crime - that is why I do not live here permanently. We have also challenge with crime mainly because of large "auslander" population who do not share average German values of sanity and respect for law, but in my opinion the difference here between Germany and South Africa is our police act when needed, are not themselves criminal and have also respect for all people in Germany not mattering if you are a citizen, a tourist, a visitor, a foreigner or assilum seeker. Germans themselves also report any criminal activity and then police act swiftly. Was it not for the standard of policing in Germany and the general additude of law abiding citizens who are not scared to get involved, probably we would have bigger crime problems than SA.

julian1/28/2010 10:30 AM: The truth lies somewhere in the middle... The Germans are a nation who take themselves and everything else far too seriously. They worry themselves into a corner. Their views on SA, while realistic, are mostly a function of their worrisome and serious mindsets. The vast majority of the English are a bunch of grumpy, low class scumbags. I have lived in London for 6 years and aside from less than a handful of good poms, the only decent people I have ever met have been from countries outside England. The English have no place criticising any other country until they instil a sense of class, family values, honesty and integrity into this hole. This country is falling to pieces and the English are to blame. They are rubbish at everything, including being good people. South Africa has it's problems, there is no denying that. Corruption, crime, pverty etc. The fact of the matter is the World Cup is happening and everyone knows that the good South African citizens will do everything they can to make it a success. It's difficult for some to be positive when they live in such a negative environment. However, my prediction is that the World Cup will be a success, but with an African touch to it. There will be problems, but there is no doubt that they are expected. I trust in South Africans and there ability to pull it off on the big stage.

Jack Turner1/28/2010 10:28 AM: Cassius...Have you been appointed the "National Statistician" for news 24....or are you trying to boast with all you total "Bull S#%T"....Stick to the topic at hand you Smuck.............

Slive1/28/2010 10:27 AM: I am an expat and would love to be there for the SWC, but work commitments are stopping me. I will be moving back in 2 years as i think there is great potential in SA. Crime is a major factor, but the uk gets me just as paranoid, as with SA, there are places you will walk durig the day or night due to all the ferrel youth that cause havoc. All you negative people in SA, stop winging and do something about it. Good luck Bafana, I will be shouting for you all the way

john1/28/2010 10:27 AM: So typical of the Mweb article comments - always ends up being a forum on which people lambaste each other. As for everyone saying - "if you dont like it LEAVE" Unfortuantely for most of us who dont have a "back door" escape route europe, thats not possible. I wish it was that easy.....

dickson1/28/2010 10:26 AM: South Africa should do a media campaign in Europe showing stats of foreign visitors to SA. Very many Germans and Englishmen visit SA for holiday every year and return to their homes not only alive but with many happy memories. Use these FACTS to counter all the negative publicity. Just a thought

Bennie1/28/2010 10:25 AM: Hey this means more tickets for us locals. There are people here and abroad who are afraid to come here and no one is going to convince them otherwise. So why should our happines and enjoyment be dictated to us by such people. If they come or they don't come, we are still going to have a ball.

Blacklogic1/28/2010 10:23 AM: With or without the brits and Germans the world cup will be sucessfull. Already over 40k tickets sold to brits. So not all brits are as stupid. South Africa is not perfect and nowhere is, I have lived in Europe and the is crime, murder, rape etc. not the same as SA. But we have +40 million people that want to make this country great. so the few naysayers can go to hell.

Tim1/28/2010 10:22 AM: Is not funny that where I live more than 46 000 Europeans arrive to live for 6 months of the year. They are obvoiusly not soccer fans!

Rod1/28/2010 10:21 AM: The soccer world cup is going to be more embarassing for this corrupt incompetant careless government than Sharpeville was for the previous regime.

Emm1/28/2010 10:20 AM: There are people who claim to be South Africans but they have all the negative things to say and nothing positive. If not complain about the poor performance of Bafana and Bafana being knocked out first round, it is capability of SA to host the world cup. What’s going on here? I really wonder if these people making negative comments about this country are truly South Africans. Can’t you guys stop being negative? Who told you that there is no crime in Germany and England? Look. Yes we do have crime but that is a world issue and not South African. Please stop these negative Talking. You guys are sending wrong messages to the world. Why can't you go there where it is safe and live there? We are tired of this. SA is very capable of hosting the world cup. As for me, I am proudly South African come rain or thunder.

oh?1/28/2010 10:19 AM: if ticket sales are so good, why is he calling them names? all england and germany have done is tell the truth. fifa has not disclosed the nature of the so-called sales - probably a substantial amount are quasi-sales to agents. bottom line - plan cautiously.

Richard1/28/2010 10:18 AM: Conie is absolutely correct.When people in the UK ask me why am i still here as a brit who came here 35 years ago my immediate response is that if things were that bad I would not have risked my families safety and would have left long ago.So please dont insult my inteligence by infering that i have put my family at risk. I grew up in London and can tell you that if I hadn't had been streetwise I would have been in trouble many times with the neibourhood thugs. And as for Rich right at the begining of this blog; why is it that those who have left SA because they had a bad run and probably couldn't hack it find it necessary to justify their decision to emigrate by talking such crap about not being able to walk in the suburb at night etc. I walk every day and evening in my suburb ,in Randburg,and it is totally safe.No loiterers,or suspicious characters at all. I put the negative Pom retoric down to plain jealosy.

Gift Nyiko Homu1/28/2010 10:18 AM: I am a truly pround South African who loves every corner of this wonderful country. I hates all the bad attitude given to our country, by the so called richest countries in our human race. Everything in our country is well prepared, the security will be tight during the FIFA world cup in South Africa. Therefore English speaking whites and the Germans must think first before they open their mouth. This is going to be a world class competetion that have never being seen in the history of human being. Since I am trully South Africa allow me to say now that everyone is welcome in our country. We love all of you guys.

Lee1/28/2010 10:16 AM: Amazing, South Africans, beating down your own country...well, you have choice really, you can either decide to be a part of what will be the best soccer world ever, or stand by and watch the rest of us enjoy it. I am certailny looking foward to this world cup, and yes, there is no guarantee that it will incident free, but hey, England and Germany could never give that guarantee either...It's Africa's time people, Ke nako!

Anon1/28/2010 10:14 AM: Well to all of you who left the country, thank you for going, you did us a HUGE favour and please dont come back, we are going to rock BIG TIME and make a success of it, I have a black friend who lives and works in London, he is a surgeon but the one night he got attacked and so badly beaten just for being black and he was on his way home from work by stupid British kids. He has lost hearing in his one ear and he had deep cuts on the back of his head, he is coming back home and about time too so how about Britain publish all the crap that their people get up to? Fat bastards

the prodigy1/28/2010 10:13 AM: not sure who is more dangerous, the local criminals or the British soccer holigans. I have a feeling that the odd mugger is going to get a nasty surprise if he tries to mug a bunch of Brit soccer holigans.

Pete1/28/2010 10:09 AM: So there is obviously no crime in any other country in the world. Soho in England is a lovely place to dwell and the west side of Berlin in Germany is definitely the safest place in the world. Come on people, it's up to us to help the visitors. Stop being a part of the problem and start being a part of the solution!!!

elbandito1/28/2010 10:07 AM: i do not understand why everybody makes a fuss about the safetly of the turists...i don't really care..i want to know that my family is safe( and it's not). the anc is doing everything to make sure that SWC will be safe but what about us!!! we are all living in fear, why don't the police patrol OUR streets instead of safeguarding hotels. i am a tax payer and would like the police to protect me and not someone who comes here for few days, leaves and tells everybody that there is no problems here and people in sa just complain for nothing. i say protect the citizens of THIS country first!

philB1/28/2010 10:07 AM: Interesting how Germany of all countries are claiming SA to be unsafe. Have they so quickly forgotten the massacre of Israeli athletes at the 1972 Munich Olympic Games? Pot calling the kettle black is an understatement!

@sally1/28/2010 10:05 AM: i Guess the country was much more safe during aparthied

ZuMata1/28/2010 10:05 AM: These are the two biggest hypocritical countries out there. They have the most violent fans, confirmed hooligans and they have the audacity to talk about safety in South Africa especially after what happend in Angola. I don't recall having bombs blow-up in our public transport, but we are still more dangerous. The brits must check their own general crime statistics, it is amongst the highest in the world. As for xenophobia, what happened in the UK to SA rugby fans..huh? Ironically or stupidly, Brits and Germans are the largest number of tourists to SA. What a bunch of idiots.......

DK1/28/2010 10:01 AM: At last, expose this country and the mess it's in. Good. I hope the WC fails. We dont deserve hosting it. SA is too small time and the majority of its people are criminals or that of the same calibre.

sean1/28/2010 10:00 AM: Well , Germany and England do have a point !!! I`m not going to say this again , I was a cop for 7 years , resigned nearly 2 years ago !! CRIME IS A MAJOR PROBLEM IN S.A !!! I love this country , BUT OUR CRIME IS OUT OF HAND !! Regarding crime stats , some stats I have seen over the last view months are wrong , obviously doctored to look less !!! All these positive folks out there , do you realy know what is going on ??? Have you seen how mnay kids get RAPED and murderd in S.A ??? In portugal , 1 kid goes missing and it is a BIG BIG story !! In S.A this happens daily !!! I`m not saying S.A will not pull of the WC (I hope they do ) , but my personal oppinion is that the WC should be fine , but what is going to happen afterwards ???? Fifa doesnt give a sh..t , they make there money from the tv rights and obviously some S.A`s will gain a bit , mainly the top `boys` ! What about the majority of S.A`s ????

horace1/28/2010 9:59 AM: Can the citizens of a country with a "moratorium on statistics" really be qualified to comment on comparative crime stats between South Africa and anywhere else?

Pommie1/28/2010 9:59 AM: @James. I live here from choice and, as you say, therefore expose myself to danger. However, I have burglar bars, a dog and an "attack" maid, drive a crappy, highjack-proof old Camry and am very, very careful. The tourist, pissed out of his brains, wondering down Point Road in Durban looking for a pub doesn't have those safeguards. Therefore, it's only sensible to "inform" these idiots so that they are careful. Comparing crime figures between Britain and SA isn't relevant. Of course there's crime there. You can easily get into a fight at Wembley. But this is different.

Peter1/28/2010 9:57 AM: Really think it should be made compulsory to purchase a stab proof vest along with your english visa, when embarking on a trip to the UK!!!! Terribly unsafe place and a hell hole to boot....you can keep it!!!Well said Greg and Cassius and to all your lame, negative losers who keep trying to sabotage the world cup, you will only end up be disappointed. Its going to be the best!!!

Robert Mugabe1/28/2010 9:56 AM: "You keep your Britain.... and we'll keep our South Africa" Tell these Germans and English to call up their cousins living here in SA and ask them how wonderful our country really is. It is simple if you fell that we are too dangerous then dont come here, we're not forcing you. If an organization like FIFA sees SA fit enough to hold the SWC here, then who are these Mofos to complain?? BTW - to the A**holes that are selling STAB proof vests as protection WTF if we wanted to rob you we would shoot you, we hardly use knives anymore.We do have guns here you know. Knives are so 1980..... We only use knives when we have to fight off the Dinosaurs and the lions that roam wildy around the villages that we live in. Oh and one more thing please dont bring any shiny objects and mirrors to barter with us... We will accept cash...

Doc1/28/2010 9:55 AM: This is a "dangerous" country , and maybe more care should be given on mindset of "people " and not wanting to just captilize on everything ,The justice system in this country leaves a lot to be desired ,what will happen to all the construction and the Gautrain after the world cup, we cannot even repair traffic lights and potholes that is causing frustration and money, never mind that the traffic police are exccelent in speed trapping but leave the taxis unto there own , I am just amazed that we cannot even give decent health to South Africans never mind looking after tourists

Lily White1/28/2010 9:53 AM: The truth is, most atrocities in Africa can be laid at the feet and directly linked to first world countries... England, Germany, Spain etc. The instability in Africa suits some of those countries as they can then exploit the third world. The guns and machetes used in warring countries in Africa are provided by western elements who stand to gain from conflict. Big companies like Shell, BP have dark histories. Now countries like Germany and England are trying to keep the FIFA World Cup from being a success in Africa so that the host rotation is only within their regions. We can all see the benefit of hosting in our country already. The airport in Cape Town looks and feels like an international airport. South Africa has hosted many world events without much problems.

kobus1/28/2010 9:52 AM: The Germans and Brits are quite correct about being seriously concerned about the crime in this country. We should have them running our country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Qminati1/28/2010 9:51 AM: As with the previous sales' phases...TICKETS ARE OVERSUBSCRIBED!!! What does that tell you? Unless you are a moron, that tells you that there is an OVERWHELMING DEMAND for tickets to watch the World Cup. Sceptics have been quick to write about ticket sales to member associations but forget that the majority of the tickets are sold online via FIFA's website and not through the English or German FA's respectively. Those tickets are reserved for member associations in order to guarantee their fans representation at the World Cup. Also, if those tickets are not sold by the respective member associations, FIFA will sell them on the open market where there is clearly a demand. I know of many people outside of England and Germany who want to watch those teams during the World Cup. So I say, to hell with those British and Germans that do not want to come here...we will fill the stadiums ourselves!!!

Rich1/28/2010 9:50 AM: I now live in Australia. Bad things happen here, but then the perpertrators are caught, & sent to jail for a loooong time. It always amazes me that people from SA say that the situation is almost as bad in first world countries. The truth is, I now drive with my doors unlocked, I sleep well at night, I walk around my neighbourhood at night, & the last thing on my mind is crime. People have been desensitied in SA. What happens in SA is not happening all over the world. If the events that took place wrt crime , in an average weekend in Joburg, occurred in Perth, Martial Law would be declared, the city would be shut down, the perpetrators would be dealt with. Those pretending that it is unsafe to live in a first world country, need to first live in one for 5 years, before making a ridiculous comparison. SA has become an evil place, a haven for rapists & the corrupt. That's final.

Sally Kay1/28/2010 9:49 AM: I am an African, female soccer fan and I must admit England & Germany have a point here. South Africans let's stop burying our rainbow heads in the sand! This country is very dangerous for us its citizens, but at least we are 'street-wise'. I am very fearful about what is going to happen to our visitors who are going to: - Be followed from the airport by criminals posing as cops, blue lights & all. - Stopped, robbed at gun-point or even worse shot & left for dead. - This will take place in broad daylight but no one will even stop to assist. Our already bad image is going to be tarnished even further. Unless Bheki Cele & Co start upping their game. On a positive note the SAPS has invited all former policemen & women to rejoin the service. But it's not going to be plain sailing. As a former SAPS member myself I could re-join, but the pittance they still pay cops discourages many of us. I love this country & am optimistic that the world cup will succeed. I will do my bit by being friendly & welcoming everyone warmly. But ..................

tongiman1/28/2010 9:49 AM: with etv who needs the Brits and Nazis?

Rich1/28/2010 9:49 AM: I now live in Australia. Bad things happen here, but then the perpertrators are caught, & sent to jail for a loooong time. It always amazes me that people from SA say that the situation is almost as bad in first world countries. The truth is, I now drive with my doors unlocked, I sleep well at night, I walk around my neighbourhood at night, & the last thing on my mind is crime. People have been desensitied in SA. What happens in SA is not happening all over the world. If the events that took place wrt crime , in an average weekend in Joburg, occurred in Perth, Martial Law would be declared, the city would be shut down, the perpetrators would be dealt with. Those pretending that it is unsafe to live in a first world country, need to first live in one for 5 years, before making a ridiculous comparison. SA has become an evil place, a haven for rapists & the corrupt. That's final.

Ross1/28/2010 9:48 AM: I really don't know what the poms ar bitching about as they are always in SA playing sport. Their cricket team just left and they never seem to have a problem with safety in SA nore does their rugby team. In my conclusion i really do think soccer players are po#sies ie: the tv diving, faking of injuries what a bunch of woman

Chessycat1/28/2010 9:47 AM: I hope England and Germany have so much fear in them that something bad is going to happen to them getting knocked out in the first round, when nothing bad is going to happen. I actually think its going to be a great SWC.

James1/28/2010 9:46 AM: To all those who live in South Africa, • and criticize the safety and the people of this country • and advise foreigners not to visit if it is so bad ............. • then how can you expose yourself and your own family (loved one’s) to all this “risk” by living here • if you have nothing good to say - no-one is holding a gun to your head. WHY do you not LEAVE???? OUR country can do without hypocrites!

Big Cheese1/28/2010 9:46 AM: FIFA made the crappy decision to play in S A - they HAVE to blame someone if things go wrong . Any criticism of the unacceptable crime levels in S A whether it be from England , Germany , Mars or the Moon is perfectly justified .

peebo1/28/2010 9:45 AM: This is of course due mainly to the hordes of miserable expats who would secretly love to come back,but continually need to reassure themselves and others that they made the right choice. There are many websites out there giving negative perceptions of SA by people not even living here. Fear not,once the WC is in full swing, the wourld at large will see for themselves what a uninformed ignorant buch of losers they all are. VIVA BAFANA BAFANA

Wildthang1/28/2010 9:44 AM: @@emile We are all proudly South African and hope the WC will be a success, but nobody with a brain can deny the crime rate in SA is OUT OF CONTROL and our government does sweet F@#$ ALL. Just because the UK has some crime is comletely irrelevant. WE DONT LIVE THERE!!!

Cas1/28/2010 9:41 AM: Remember the WC draw to select the host country for the 2006 WC. We should have beaten Germany , but due to them bribing Dempsey we lost and Germany ended up hosting the 2006SWC.So there might still be some Germans who still cant believe that they a first world country won by one vote. and remember back then it wasn’t given to us like some like to point out. No sir the world wanted us to host it.Oh and by the way England instructed Dempsey to vote for us. So PEOPLE just because of a couple of non relevant people who say bad things about us, lets not blame every English men or and German. The majority of Germans loves RSA, we have more German tourist them from another country. How many friendlies has Germany played against RSA. They allowed us to have one of our training camps in Germany.

BabaG1/28/2010 9:41 AM: Everyone blames fear of SA as a reason for poor ticket sales but lets be honest it is expensive to travel all the way here to see the world cup. Remember there is a recession and the bulk of football fans are not as wealthy as polo fans! I think the media likes the idea of focussing on crime as it attracts attention to their publications. We can all help to keep the visitors safe. We know where they shouldnt go and need to help them and give them a great welcome to SA. There are way more of us who arent criminals!!

Trevor1/28/2010 9:41 AM: UK News Headlines I ‘v killed my kids they are in car boot…. The Sun Doherty ‘s beauty heroin overdose ..The Sun Gipsy gangsters nicked half of all stolen caravans Terror suspect exploit system to stay anonymous..The Sun Terror suspects are wrongly exploiting the British legal system to try to "hide behind a cloak of anonymity", the country's most senior judges warned yesterday. “The Telegraph”

Mr Growler1/28/2010 9:38 AM: Typical South Africans....can't handle the truth and deny that the hate crime in this country is bordering on genocide. More violent deaths every day than some countries fighting wars. The highest chance of getting murdered anywhere in the world. While we can host a few soccer games, the native barbaric savages will have a field day raping, robbing and murdering. The world needs to know the truth about this country. It is certainly not a happy, vibrant rainbow nation.

Hilton1/28/2010 9:37 AM: To all those comments from people who agree with the Germans and the Brits. You may be right and you may have reasons for your sentiments. The proof of the pudding will all be revealed at the end of the Tournament..God help this country "Post World Cup"............

Pommie1/28/2010 9:37 AM: I've been here 10 years and love it. However, I do have burglar bars and ADT (nobody has those in the UK) and I am still nervous. OK I know that the 50 murders a day are generally African on African and that, although SA is the rape capital of the world, that doesn't usually impact the whites, although it does here more than it does in the UK. However, imagine landing at Cape Town and seeing all those slums! Anyone would be scared to meet those people who a foreigner would consider desperate and dangerous! My point is this. A tourist should not have to be scared. He's bringing in his hard currency. However, as tourists are generally ignorant, they need to be advised to be very, very careful and that's what's happening in the UK. Don't blame the Brits and Germans. Blame the government here who live in bomb proof houses with added security and don't need to worry that they govern the most dangerous country in the world!!!!!!!!!

Tebhane1/28/2010 9:37 AM: Those individuals from Germany and England who has a problem with South Africa hosting the world cup should stay in their countries and watch the games in front of their screens in their countries, their talking is just getting cheap now cos thers no plan B or C, and we welcome all those who have bought their tickets from all over the world to come and enjoy the warmth of the people of South Africa and the beauty of our country. South Africa has its own crime problem, same as all the other countries that has hosted the world cup before, and our gorvenment has went an extra mile to make sure that the world cup is safe by employing thousands and thousand of police officials for the event, and surely it wil the safer world cup off all times. Tel me one country which does not have crime, worse i dont even wana talk about Europe, just that they dont publicese it always doesnt mean they dont have it.

@Emile1/28/2010 9:33 AM: "From their first world perspective, the level and forms of violent crime in SA is an unknown phenomenon." Absolute nonesense Emile. Levels of violent crime are rising fast in England (I use this example because they are the ones doing most of the complaining). You only have to watch Skynews for half an hour and you'll hear a story of some gang of hoodies who have stabbed an innocent old lady and nicked her pension. Violent crime happens verywhere, the difference is that in SA a group of annoying naysayers are always on hand to say "I told you so" everytime something goes wrong. And come to mention it, have you ever heard of the Columbine massacre? The 2010 World Cup will be a massive success, because those of us who are PROUD SOUTH AFRICANS are doing everything we can (including rubbishing people's comments in forums like this one) to ensure the tournament will be a success. VIVA 2010 World Cuip VIVA!!!!

Luke 1/28/2010 9:30 AM: Dont these clowns know how many of there own kind come to South Africa everyday and have a great safe time and leave with memories that will last forever. They dont think about that.

Soccer fan1/28/2010 9:29 AM: @ Matt Nel 9:03AM,Well said boet. All these comments from overseas are just there to sell news papers are. @ Mel & the likes , the reason why such stories are posted on News 24 is to get people like you to read them...all media hype. No matter what, THE 2010 FIFA WC is going to take plc in SA.

Cliff Bradley1/28/2010 9:27 AM: Shame On You: England & Germany : You should be ashamed of yourselves for telling the truth.

Greg1/28/2010 9:25 AM: Dont want the english scum here. The most violent country in Europe. Stats released last year show England has the highest violent crime rate per capita in the world. Higher than SA(not murder rate). You have a much better chance of being stabbed or beaten up by yobs in the UK than in SA!!! Far more worried about english hooligans than our own thugs

Boeshie1/28/2010 9:24 AM: Guys we are making a Mountain out of a Mole hill. The largest number of tickets sold are to US let us help make the world cup memorable for them so that they keep coming back and back. We have problems & the US is aware of it, go and look at their travel info for people travelling to SA. If we focus on our detractors we will do things wrong. For the majority of us we need to show the visitors our best and assist where we can so that they visit again and again

Cassius1/28/2010 9:24 AM: England and Wales have the highest crime rate among the world's leading economies, according to a new report by the United Nations. The survey, which is likely to prove embarrassing to David Blunkett, the Home Secretary. shows that people are more likely to be mugged, burgled, robbed or assaulted here than in America, Germany, Russia, South Africa or any other of the world's 20 largest nations. Only the Dominican Republic, New Zealand and Finland have higher crime rates than England and Wales. According to the comparison of international crime statistics produced by the UN's Office for Drug Control and Crime Prevention, England and Wales had 9,766 crimes for every 100,000 people in the year 2000. America had 8,517, South Africa 7,997, Germany 7,621 and Russia 2,022. During the period 1998-2000, Britain went from fifth to fourth worst in the world league table. An analysis of total recorded crime figures before 1998 also suggests that England and Wales have moved sharply up the league table since Labour came to power in 1997. Crimes fell from 5.5 million in 1993 to 4.5 million in 1997. By 1999, total crimes had risen again to 5.3 million. Last night Oliver Letwin, the shadow home secretary, said: "This does rather blow a hole in David Blunkett's claim that New Labour has crime under control. It is a damning picture." The UN reports also shows that England and Wales are the second-worst places in the world for assaults, with 851 people assaulted per 100,000, and seventh for burglaries and car theft, with 1,579 burglaries per 100,000 population. Criminologists believe that a note of caution needs to be introduced into analysis of the data, because of the different ways in which UN member countries record crimes. A Home Office spokesman said that officials had not yet seen the report and so could not comment.

Eish1/28/2010 9:24 AM: All the people harping on about the '95 RWC need to bear in mind that it was 15 years ago. Alot has changed since then. I have no doubts that the SWC will be professionally run and perfectly organised, however, when the fans are not at the games there are going to be plenty of opportunities for the crooks in our country. I hope I am wrong though!

Proudly South African1/28/2010 9:24 AM: Wow is there NO crime in other countries (just wondering if it is true then when we see on the news when soccer fans break down staduims and cause chaos in other countries because the match did not go the way they wanted, just asking....) The rugby and cricket world cups went by without any major incidents. I still say BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY and crime will go down. No criminal is scared of our current justice system.

SAD South African1/28/2010 9:23 AM: I am a South African (embarrassed to say so), we all know whats going on in this country, and if asked by a foreign visitor wanting to visit for the SWC, I will unfortunately advise them not to come. I have been to many overseas places, and never once felt as unsafe as I do here...cant blame them for being negative towards SA...just watch our own local news or read the papers

Stef1/28/2010 9:22 AM: Most people who comment, confuse soccer hooliganism in Europe and the UK with the crime situation in the countries concerned. South Africa has more murders, armed robberies and hijackings as well as house robberies commited annually than the in the EU combined. Why shouldn't the Poms and the Germans feel unsafe? It is not true that no- member of the barmy army and the B&I lions were attacked and victims of crime whilst in SA. Read Go through the archives of ther newspapers at the time and stand corrected. The ANC government's emphasis on race and attempts to destroy anything dear to non-ANC members hows that too much emphasis, time and money is placed on stupid things like changing Pretoria's name in time for the world cup and holding parties for 50 000 policemen. Just imagine how that money wasted on such trivialities could have improved the soccer security. Maybe aggriec\ved Soutgh Aftricans and thos sick and tired of being ATMS for criminals, should totally boycott the SWC

Marco1/28/2010 9:21 AM: All good and well that the majority of these posts bash the negative commentary, it's great being proud of your country but be realistic people, in Europe people are not murdered for their wristwatch. We rape children in this country, and we've become so immune to it that we're stupid enough to believe that 3 million tourists are safe???

jack1/28/2010 9:21 AM: Why do so many Brits and Germans have houses in South Africa if it is so dangerous??

Johannes1/28/2010 9:21 AM: You are all paranoid; yes we have our challenges; yes we have absolutely wonderfull and unique things in South Africa and yes we have the best climate in the world (if it does not change). I'll rather have the good and the bad in South Africa than have only the ugly elsewhere. Whom of the complainants have taken the trouble to report a hooligan taxi driver or any ass@#$& on the road or any of you friends who evade tax - That is where a crimefree country starts. Ha-la-la, ha-la-la ewig woon ons in Afrka!!!

James1/28/2010 9:19 AM: England and Germany are correct, if you wanna get mugged, stabbed in the chest or raped come to SA. It's the place to be !

Today's UK Headlines1/28/2010 9:19 AM: I ‘v killed my kids they are in car boot…. The Sun Doherty ‘s beauty heroin overdose ..The Sun Gipsy gangsters nicked half of all stolen caravans Terror suspect exploit system to stay anonymous..The Sun Terror suspects are wrongly exploiting the British legal system to try to "hide behind a cloak of anonymity", the country's most senior judges warned yesterday. “The Telegraph”

No Surprise1/28/2010 9:18 AM: I am a South African living abroad and I tell people they MUST visit South Africa at least one, and I agree, crime is an issue everywhere in the world, it is not exclusively a South African problem but, and here is the catch, crime is South Africa is so violent, so unnecessarily violent, where in NYC, London, Perth do you read on a daily basis “Man’s wife and daughter raped in front of him, robbers flee with R100.00”, “Toddler of 2 years raped”, “Father of four beaten and shot during burglary”, “Man hijacked at traffic lights, taken on joy ride for 8 hours then shot execution style”, This is the problem that plagues South Africa, not crime as a whole, every city, country in the world has crime but, South Africa is unique in terms of the senseless violent crime against all citizen which the government is unable or unwilling to control. If the government put half the effort into providing safety and security for its citizens as they do on lining their pockets, these articles about safety would not be headline news! The greatest ambassadors for any country are those who are living there, and if those cannot praise the country, how on earth can you expect those who do not to praise the country?

James1/28/2010 9:17 AM: England and Germany are correct, if you wanna get mugged, stabbed in the chest or raped come to SA. It's the place to be !

CH1/28/2010 9:16 AM: It is true that we crime in our country and the government has assured FIFA and the whole world that during world cup security will be beefed. We have to realize that these colonial masters will never ever endorse anything done by Africans, you cannot take away that mentality. We have hosted several big tournaments and there was never an issue. Even worse, in 2006 Germany world, there were warnings that there are areas that people shouldn't go to because they may be killed. Nobody said the world cup is in danger because of that. Now that it is our turn, they want to taint a bad picture about this world cup. No one is bigger than FIFA in football and their decision is final and they have taken all this into consideration before a final call was made. Whoever has concerns about being murdered, it will be prudent for them to stay in their home country and watch from TV. England and Germany just want to push their weight in issues that the president has time and again assured the world. If you are afraid, stay home and be safe. We will take advice but we are not going to be controlled by other countries and listen to crap!

JohnPF1/28/2010 9:16 AM: There seem to be a few things (facts) that people here are forgetting in all the emotional reactions here. Fact 1: The average rugby and cricket supporter that come their World Cups come from a different social and economic level to the average football supporter (in Europe in any event). Fact 2: There is no rush cq. interest in buying WC tickets in Europe. Fact is it is too expensive for the average football supporter to go to SA. Holland has only had applications for 7.500 of their allocated total of 23.000. They expect to only sell a few 100 more. NOTE: Applicaions are not the same as sold tickets. Fact 3: Safety is not the main issue. Prices are. SA has priced themselves way out the market. Total package approx.a fan here is €5.000 (only for the group matches). If the WC was held in Europe they would be paying €2.000 for the same. See the difference. Fact 4: Why is there this little circus aboout numbers of tickets being sold/apllied for in the first place? There has never been such an issue about tickets being ir being sold. It has always been a given that the tickets would be sold out. Shows that FIFA is worried, very worried about ticket sales. Fact 5: All South Africans buying extra tickets in the hope of selling them through to European fans for a profit, save your money. No-one is going to lay out a lot of money upfront to wander around SA in the hope of buying tickets outside a stadium. This little press release above is a pretty transparent attempt to create a demand for tickets (apply now as they are almost sold out) as they are in serious problems with little actual demand for the tickets.

Apples & Pears1/28/2010 9:16 AM: No two countries are the same; South Africa has indeed got more crime than Europe, and a whole lot less than the rest of Africa, but the world is becoming a more dangerous place as a whole. Bombs on the subway, 911, suicide bombings etc. A case in point being the English teenagers kicking an adult to death in his driveway in Warrington recently. Statistics can tell differtent stories depending on a variety of factors. Results are often misinterpreted when figures per 1000 are analysed. Outliers create the impression that crime per thousand is very high everywhere in the country. Perception is the mother of all disasters, as we all have various limits of tolerance. Sure we have crime, but to say people are not safe to visit tourist destinations is just a misrepresentation of fact. The incindences of tourist related crime is certainly not out of control. Of course we would like no crime, but that is going to take a lot more work. Everyone must take onwership of these problems and be more vigilant. What have you done recently to make South Africa a better place?

TRUE Red1/28/2010 9:15 AM: Yes, we have our problems, but who doesn't ? Yes, our crime is more brutal, e.g. murder/rape instead of pick pocketing/petty theft, but I still believe it is highly exaggerated in Europe - it's not like we have okes walking around with AK's in public ! We have many 1st world facilities & I HOPE & PRAY everything goes off 110%, because it will do wonder's for our beautiful land. From an "indian" South African, so this is not a black/white statement

nigel1/28/2010 9:14 AM: @bobby, while you may be right when it comes to murder statistics, the UK has a higher incidence of knife crime & aggrevated assualt. The UK (specifically London) is by no means a safe place. In my 45 years in Cape Town I have never personally witnessed a crime & only once been subjected to petty theft. I spent 3 days in London during which I winessed someone being stabbed right in front of me for a Wembly stadium ticket to Rolling Stones. The victim died in my arms. Saffers should wake up & realise what we have here in SA & stop pining for an imaginery perfect life in another country, if this is not possible for you...then do some travelling & educate for yourself, dont forget to check out other emerging\developing countries.

Jakes1/28/2010 9:14 AM: Well to a degree I completely agree with them. If you just read the headlines of News24 over the last couple of days with the rapes and murders that occured, you ask yourself are we really as safe as we think we are and would we be able to protect and honor our visitors during this time? Our country is plagued with crime. It's sickening to say the least

T BOSE1/28/2010 9:13 AM: No men , if they dont want , the only better way they must pull out of the cup, How can u visit the country wich does not have security,first when they do qualifications with other teams ,they suppose to loose to avoid this.

Sibonelo1/28/2010 9:12 AM: I am glad Jerome could through these people who are spreading negative news about our country. Unfortunately for them, SA is going to host the SWC2010 either they like it or not. Big up Jerome and Blatter for your support. I also want to urge all south africans to do everything possible to ensure that SA make SWC a memorable one. Thank you!!!!

Emile1/28/2010 9:12 AM: Are they telling the truth or not? From their first world perspective, the level and forms of violent crime in SA is an unknown phenomenon. They are not used to barbaric civilizations and those coming for the first time is going to get the shock of their lives - hopefully not fatal. One good thing of the SWC is that those travelling to SA will experience what we all have to cope with on a daily basis. Living behind security gates, alarms, having quick response security, dogs, etc - just to keep the f@cking useless bastards of your private property. We are not a normal society and don't call it African as well - it is barbaric!!! A country (not at war) with almost the highest crime level in the world and what do our corrupt government do? The create laws to disarm the law abiding citizens with LEGAL fire arm licences. Isn't it quite crazy?

Keltria1/28/2010 9:12 AM: The problem with us South Africans is the fact that we have become desensitised to Crime. Nothing shocks us anymore. I react to animal abuse worse than I do to human abuse. We are shocked that people are worried about their safety. We see so much of it, experience so much of it and read about it all day long. Maybe this is why, we really cant understand why people are scared to come here. The world cup will probably be a success, and those that missed it because of their fears will most probably regeret it. But then again, when people are interviewed on TV stating they cant wait to rob the tourists, what can one expect. We create our own negativity, and then moan afterwards.

kar1/28/2010 9:10 AM: I am a bit nervous about the World Cup and even more so when it comes to post World Cup when the excitement has ended. However, just watch Sky News and see what vicious crime England has, murders, serial killers...their kids are also out of control - mugging the elderly, being the criminals. South Africa has it's problems but England's new generation i.e their children are still evolving to become even more vicious whereas SA will be smiling all the way with our new generation, with a large portion being well educated (no matter what your colour). While England is being distracted by issues in the Middle East their country is developing problems. I am proudly South African...let's face it, we are a young country when it comes to politics, racial acceptance and crime. Just look back at the history of the European countries who were all colonial bullies and the USA having slavery. I love my country! We are the rainbow nation.

rocco1/28/2010 9:08 AM: Well if I was a criminal in SA this year....2010 is gonna be a great one!!!! All you ignorant SA lovers, I am gonna say I told you so. England and Germany arent first world for nothing at least someone has half a brain to realize the reality..Wake up people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fraser1/28/2010 9:07 AM: To counter the negative sentiment, send this link to everyone you know. It is a video made for Joburg and the "You Make Joburg Great" campaign. http://www.absolutemagazine.co.za/index.php/video/viewvideo/89.html Or Just visit Absolute Magazine dot coza and click on the Absolute TV button.

Matt Nel1/28/2010 9:03 AM: White trash South Africans are doing this - just look at our own news blogs and one sees the vast amounts of negitive white loosers with their stupid comments. These guys dont realise that they are hurting themselves! I cant ever remember a black on these forums slatting our country.

JUSTIN1/28/2010 9:02 AM: We have a crime crisis in South Africa, we all know this and it has not changed since we were given the right to host, we are all trying to resolve a very complex problem that has historic legacies. But lets not forget the massive Afro Pessimism that exists in the world, especially in Europe. The very same people told us we would never be ready, never have the infrastructure, never this never that, and now at this late stage all that is left to confirm there negative African views is the shout about crime. I have seen over 50 countries in the world and South Africa is the greatest country in the world to live in despite our crime. BE PROUD OF YOUR COUNTRY!

cde1/28/2010 9:02 AM: To hell with Germany and England, SWC will happen successfully IN South Africa

DebMM1/28/2010 9:01 AM: I'm confused...aren't the highest number of tourists that visit South Africa from Germany and England, hmmmm interesting.

Oliriser1/28/2010 9:00 AM: You know its funny how some of you guys that comment on these articles are always able to turn everything into politics ,always blaming the gorverment about all the crime. Every country has crime and yes we do have a lot of violent crimes but that doesn't mean that the gorverment is failing. Some of you must ask yourselves where and how it all started.Some of you pricks comment like you are not South Africans and maybe you should ask your fathers and mothers how it all started .Please tell us who is the best person to rule this country and make it a crime free zone...Oh!! wait I know who should rule this country the 'National Party' . Stay Proudly South African and have faith we will have a great Worl Cup

Andrew1/28/2010 8:59 AM: All anybody has to do is view news24.co.za and they will see that in fact, England and Germany are correct...This is not a very safe place if you live here, never mind if you travel here on holiday..Why are you all bitching about the truth?! No-one is questioning our ability to host the SWC, they are questioning the crime...got it?! I personally invite many folks to read this lovely website to see for themselves that racism and apartheid is alive and well except that it is reversed, as is crime and rape and murder of babies to cure Aids etc...I live in the Western Cape and am very safe so I dont care either way but the truth is the truth and more and more people "out there" are seeing it and that makes me happy...Delighted in fact :-)

Cassius1/28/2010 8:58 AM: It is very disappointing when you hear your Fellow South Africans that are suppose to the ambassadors of their country talking the same language as the Europeans. FIFA president did ask at some point and said “show me any other country in the world that doesn’t have social, and crime problems” asking the international media. We have host major events in South Africa and none of them had a report of Security bridge. The South African Police service have showed how ready and willing there are to combat crime best possible they can. It is you and I that are either plying the part in making south Africa a safe haven or derail the process by encouraging criminality. Take a look at the very country that is the mouth of negativism on South Africa’s Success. http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/crimeew0708.html These are the countries that are bringing all kind of illness amongst others Swine flue; and HIV/AIDS; drinking habits. And there are right on top the terrorism and unlike us here. South Africa will host a successful SWC. Please stop giving this guys something to talk about fellow South Africans

Africa is not for sissies1/28/2010 8:57 AM: Criminals by nature are opportunists and 2010 is a huge opportunity. It's gonna be like teazing a hungry jackal with an easy meal.

kw1/28/2010 8:56 AM: Yes, South Africa is a dangerous country due to crime etc.. but there are far more positives for tourists than this single negative. I can't wait for the world cup and to hopefully welcome the 400 000 or so tourists to our beautiful country (including the Poms and Germans)

Mfanomncane1/28/2010 8:56 AM: Even in England and Germany there is crime.What's more disappointing is the high level of pessimism among white South Africans and they happen to be cricket and rugby fans.If you are so negative and don't follow soccer what are you doing commenting on soccer sections when cricket and rugby sections are there for you to use.Talk about Mickey Arthur's resignation,talk about the coming S14 games,get off our sport we don't need your discouraging messages.Do you discourage S14 rugby fans from coming here? Do you tell cricket fans not to come here and follow their countries? Why come here and tell us about 50 murders a day but when it's cricket and rugby you talk about brandy and "coke"?

Billy Moses1/28/2010 8:56 AM: South Africa sometime or another you have to face the truth those countries are dead right in what they are saying for Fifa South Africa is just another business oppertunity the care zip about you it is the money they are after. South Africa stop living in a world of makebelieve and face facts

andrew1/28/2010 8:56 AM: Every country has problems. The positive aspects of South Africa far outweigh the negative ones. To all you naysayers, please pissoff.

Billy Moses1/28/2010 8:55 AM: South Africa sometime or another you have to face the truth those countries are dead right in what they are saying for Fifa South Africa is just another business oppertunity the care zip about you it is the money they are after. South Africa stop living in a world of makebelieve and face facts

Rudes1/28/2010 8:53 AM: I have seen enough on you tube on hooliganism in Britain and other so called violence and after watching a movie called Rise of the Footsoldier (I realised its also over the top) I think there is enough evidence to show that people in glass houses etc.......you know the old cliche. Our British lady friend who has settled here has so fallen in love with South Africa that she got her dad out here and they are blown away by the hospitality, the beauty and the friendliness. Sure we are a country of extremes, but a a German speaking born and bred seffrikan, there is no other place like here..........thats my 2 cents worth..........warts an all this is my home.

My China1/28/2010 8:53 AM: I live in gated area, so my opinion is limited, But i was in China, and walked through many back streets in the dark hours of the morning after a few drinks in the night clubs, the roads were sand, and the homes like shacks, but not for a second did I feel threatend or unsafe, vilonent crime does not happen there, cause you will get shot by firing squad, you cant even walk around the Suburbs in Sandton at night without feeling uneasy

Plagu31/28/2010 8:51 AM: @fern: you are an idiot

NPC1/28/2010 8:51 AM: Perceptions are caused from reality. you can not shout at England and germany for telling the truth, many SA people mainly incompetents live in a fantasy world of make believe and propaganda rubbish put out by the ANC...SA is a small pimple on the globe living with blinkers on, the rest of the world knows exactly how bad it is in SA..its just that Two open countries with higher standards are not afraid to voice their opinions. Many said Blatter was paid off to give SA the SWC...but immediately afterwards SA people openly also said its wrong because of the crime situation, now we have a few loud mouths living in denial but the good thing is the world actually knows what goes on here so their inane little voices of denial really don't count. SA wake up and face facts. its an incompetent country that can;t arrange a pissup in a brewery even if it was handed to them on a plate. I say that BUT we can only Judge accurately after the competition is finished, the we can see of the English and Germans were right . SA would be the best place in the world to live if crime was controlled...NO other country would beat it...get crime right and its heaven on earth, apart from the ANC and taxi drivers !

Tito1/28/2010 8:50 AM: Regardless of what they say THE SHOW WILL GO ON IN MZANSI. To all those that agree with the Germans and English can go F@#% off.

A the Pal1/28/2010 8:49 AM: So the words from a convicted criminal (Valcke) and "persona non grata" in many countries. When is SA going to wake up that we are dealing with the biggest mafia family on the planet?

cindy1/28/2010 8:49 AM: bwhahahaha, and now they are SHOCKED?!? what about the saffers who are shocked by news headlines on a DAILY basis?!? boohoo FIFA, cry me a river!

louis1/28/2010 8:46 AM: white South Africans living abroad have a very big impact on spreading negativity about South Africa. All they see is crime in South africa, they dont say anything positive about the country,to me,they are not patriotics if they claim to be south africans. London is not safe either, Sydney, Cologne and New York arent heavens as well. i didnt hear all these negatives when SA hosted rugby world cup! they just dont want a black government to do something which can be shown to the whole world. i have met more than 10 white south african living abroad, and they all say negative comments about south africa. columbia has the the highest crime but it hosted a successful world cup. Brazil isnt safe either but they will be hosting olympic as well as world cup. plus,that what happens when you depress the majority for so many years and deny them rights to education which creates a population of unskilled workers.you are so happy when you see them work in your back yards as gardeners and domestic workers. go South Africa, Amanda! go SAFA.thanks to smart people like Blatter and Jerome who will not take these nonsense. bring it on, South Africa is waiting and ready

nigel1/28/2010 8:45 AM: YES we have a crime problem, BUT providing event security is something completely different to providing contry wide security, its much much easier. The WC security concerns have been blown WAY out of proportion & I'm sure many white saffers are only too happy to get onto the bandwagon to rub it in the ANC's face, which is very tempting & they do deserve it, but lets embrace this thing, stop the negativity & try to make the most out of it, hopefully, just maybe it will be the catylist for a long term reduction in crime & go some way to reconciling a divided nation. If we don't belive how can we expect the Germans & Brits to believe.

Bobby1/28/2010 8:42 AM: Anyone that believes crime in England and Germany is as bad as SA is living in dreamland - have you been there ? I have been many times (to both) and NEVER felt threatened, but am nervous of going for a walk in my middleclass suburb in SA.When a crime happens there it is BIG news, but here most crime is not even reported !! SA is a great country, but the crime is a major problem. I am sure we will have a successful tournament with all the extra security measures, but why is this only for the world cup. Surely the residents of SA deserve the same levels of policing as is going to be in place for the tournament

mamamia1/28/2010 8:41 AM: Its funny how many German tourists visit the country every year. But now becasue we're hosting the world cup the country is unsafe. Its sad to realise that most European countries would rather see Africa fail....I wouldnt be suprised if they still wished they own colonies in the continent.

Kobus1/28/2010 8:41 AM: Look who's taking. Bad teeth hoolligans from k@k wheather england and those Nazi war lovers from germany.That wall that was build in germany should have been build around that Nazi country to keep them from starting another war..........england should shut up......bad teeth is no excuse for lack of football skills.

Valli1/28/2010 8:40 AM: England and Germany - the only 2 countries that really know what the realities are in South Africa and haven't been fooled by the South African spin. Fact; Murder, rape, robbery, theft, hi-jacking and assult has touched or touches every South African citizen daily. +-50 murders a day. That's reality. That's how it is. Why bullsh*t the world that it's not happening. And the police and what's left of the army have been unable to unable to protect their own South African citizenry. And until they can fullfil this duty to all South Africans there will be doubt about security at the SWC. The measures that are to be put in place to protect the fans and supporters should have been put in place by government long ago to protect their own citizens. SA is putting on this "Bo Blink onder stink" SWC facade to the world as the country is decaying. The world is not stupid

Ntair1/28/2010 8:39 AM: England and Germany are true apartheid engineers, what do they think they are, they are not alone in this world. They are jealous, Fifa ignore them and cater for those who are not afraid of CHANGE.

Bill1/28/2010 8:38 AM: South Africa only has itself to blame with no serious government to crack down on crime. READ THE ARTICLE IN THIS MORNING'S DAILY TELEGRAPH - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/southafrica/7085320/South-Africa-police-lose-3000-guns-a-year.html The rate at which South African Police are 'losing' their hand-guns - the majority are not worthy of belonging to a force against crime!

fern1/28/2010 8:37 AM: How locals still agree with with these idiots is beyond me. No pride. Dave - you maybe have been a victim multiple times but most people have not so get a life, you probably deserve to be a victim.

Koosie1/28/2010 8:36 AM: Covering crime it up to boost profit is wrong. South Africa is and extremely dangerous country, thats a fact. However, the holiday makers will be safe as there will be crowds of police protection. Just stay out of places where you can't be protected. It is not worth the concern, it is us who stay behind who will suffer after the world cup as the ANC will then aggressively push their agenda.

peedoff1/28/2010 8:36 AM: I am so fed up reading the negative comments from negative people. We all know there is crime, we live with it every day. We also get visitors to our country every day. Lets use this opportunity to promote the fight against crime instead of telling visitors not to come an make the world cup a failure. If that happens you and I are going to have to pay the bill

Thomas1/28/2010 8:36 AM: Please ask the Barmey Army and the British and Irish Lions Supporters how great their time was in SA, 99% will be back again, along with thousands of their buddies who havn't been. Roll on 2010, we are going to show the world what most South Africans already know, that we are as capable as any other country, and all the negative press in the world is not going to stop the greatest show on earth

Khulekani1/28/2010 8:35 AM: South Africa last year recorded over a million tourists in december. Only 450,000 are coming for the world cup. Initially it was about Stadiums and crime. I agree that we do have crime but haven't we just hosted big sporting events such as the RWC, IPL and the confederations cup. South Africans who are also rooting for the cancellation of the world cup, shame on you. I support this country with all it's problems. Can't wait for kick-off

Bra Phil1/28/2010 8:35 AM: I am sick and tired of hearing these colonists saying whatever they want or feel at anytime it suits them.RSA should just deny them visas.Just a reminder we are over 46million in SA, More than 700million in Africa. So you come or NOT to SA , we will host a memorable one without you colonists.SO STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM OUR LIVES.

Jerome1/28/2010 8:33 AM: Anyone that does a bit of travelling around South Africa will realise that a great proportion of tourists to South Africa come from Germany. Go to OR Tambo and you will see a flood of Germans arriving and departing each day. Something doesn't make sense!

Herman1/28/2010 8:33 AM: To portray South Africa as a safe destination is certainly not "fair" Let's face it: Our country is a haven for criminal activities and we must stop trying to fool ourselves as well as the rest of the world that everything is all right. It is not and we cannot blame other countries for fair criticism.

Metla21/28/2010 8:32 AM: Have england rugby supporters experienced any harm whilst in the country for the Lion's tour last year or most recently with their cricket team? Its suprising that they expect to be mugged when coming for soccer whilst no incidents were reported for the most recent tours of their teams. Strange is'nt it.

john c1/28/2010 8:32 AM: and i agree with them. i live here. you would have to be blind to not see the fu......g problems this country has.

Dave 1/28/2010 8:31 AM: The crime is real and probabl grossly under-reported- in the last 2 months, just about every close family member I know has been a victim of robbery, car theft, house-breaking and in one case murder. In other countries as an individual, one would not seee this in a lifetime (maybe two or three even)

bekkie1/28/2010 8:31 AM: Well, at least the two countries are being truthful. SA is a dangerous country. You cannot walk without the fear of being robbed. In every open space there are many eyes watching you. The indigenous people think that every pale face is an ATM. They have no respect to life, they will crush your head under a stone and slit your throat without blinking an eye. There is nothing positive in SA at all anymore, the SWC will only make money for a few, already stinking rich folk. The employment provided by the building of the infrastructure has already come to and end for many people and they are now looking once again for piece job. There are much better ways to achieve full time employment but the biggest resistence to such plans are the unions, who expect that a broom pusher must be paid 20 grand a month and get a petrol allowance. No, stay away if you value your life and if England or Germany would like to offer me assylum please look me up.

rrr1/28/2010 8:31 AM: @Mel. Agree with you. What faccinates me though is that they will bring in extra police enforcement for during the world cup, but we the tax paying public must live in fear! Why not start with that extra policemen now so that we as the citizens can feel free in our own country?

Victor Mothata1/28/2010 8:31 AM: It does not surprise me. Have you seen what soccer hooliganism in England is like? When EUFA hosts these teams, what happens, fans from England banned etc. It is a shame as violence and crime is all over the world. England is constantly under Bomb threats from Terrorists due to their involvement in the middle east crises etc. Germans are known to think highly of themselves anyway. Proudly Black and genuine SA who will be protecting visitors by hook or by crook.

Filamon1/28/2010 8:29 AM: I for many thousands won't watch a soccer game ever in SA. Where are the white players? When Neil tovey was captain we won the CAF Cup, nowadays we cant even qualify for this low rank league. Why is there never a debate of white players in soccer, but rugby and cricket must always answer these questions. Dont tell me there are not white people good enough to play soccer. Rugby and cricket must choose third rate players in the domestic game and i think soccer must do the same. I am white and want to play for bafana, i know i am not good, but hey give me a few coaching clinics!!!!!!!

Coenie Erasmus1/28/2010 8:29 AM: Just look at the figures. 20000 people are murder in South Africa each year. In the period that the World Cup takes place about 2000 people will be murdered. Chances are good that some of them will be tourist.

Dorothy Marquis1/28/2010 8:28 AM: I am always fascinated at the negative attitude which abounds, and I am pleased that some culprits are being highlighted. My question to these "nay-sayers" is - what are you hoping to gain? What is the payoff? Why do you want it to fail? Do you have a deep inner need for Africa to fail - is your racism showing? There are problems in SA - and the crime and violence associated to the crime is unacceptable. Rather discuss this, and supply information about ensuring how not to be a victim. I have not stopped visiting the UK or using the underground system because of bombing - both in 1973 (Irish terrorists) and since 2001. There is no positive outcome in denying the world cup 2010 - FIFA is not going to suddenly move it or cancel it. It will happen. Play your part in making it work, and work well. If you cannot do this, shut up!

David Smith1/28/2010 8:28 AM: You can't blame the UK and Germany, we as South African's should be blamed for the situation this country is in. No one else. How can you blame people if they are to afraid to come here? The people of Germany and the UK has the right to know it's unsafe here. Any country that care for it's citizens will inform them of the situation in SA. Reffering back to the Etv broadcast of the 2 men saying they will target football supporters from overseas... In my opinion they can't be blamed, if I were in their shoes I'd probably do and feel the same.

Reality1/28/2010 8:27 AM: This is unfortunately the reality out there. With man thanks to Mbeki who has denied crime for way too long.....

Mike1/28/2010 8:27 AM: I am sure this is all just blown out of proportions. SA is a safe country just like any other European country... Just check the headlines in the newspapers: "Famous Austrian Burgstaller football player shot in golfclub" - up until today the sentencing for the 2 murderers is unknown. "Girl raped dead after eyes were gouged out and stabbed in the stomach" "Girl raped, then hanged to death" "Mother of two raped at police station" "White female raped by officers in police uniform" ""Farmer in northern SA attacked on his farm then shot dead" "SA murder rate ~50/day higher than in war zones" ...sounds all quite normal to me. Does it? Or perhaps England and Germany have a point here ?

Thuli Masina1/28/2010 8:25 AM: England & Germany they are just noise makers in fact they are jelous.Viva South Africa Viva

Tashie801/28/2010 8:24 AM: Typical flippen English and Germans. Don't let these clowns get us down Sunny Wonderful SA... We will pull this spectacular event off, and show them all.

Aki1/28/2010 8:23 AM: To me it seems to be mainly Germany. 21000 tickets were allocated to them but so far they bought less than 3000. England has influence on UK football and look at how many they (UK) applied for or bought so far.

Soutpiel1/28/2010 8:18 AM: The ANC let crime get out of control by scrapping the death sentence and letting the justice system fall into decay, corruption in the police etc. The ANC must foot the blame, shame and embarrassment of the lack-luster ticket sales.. not the countries who's citizens have a genuinely concerned about getting harmed- even killed.

Vincent1/28/2010 8:18 AM: Germany and England have every justification for cautioning visitors to SA. It's an approach based on fact.

Rob1/28/2010 8:16 AM: As with all other tournaments hosted here, (Rugby WC '95, Cricket world Cup, IPL series, ICC Champions league etc etc) this event will follow suite and be a SUCCESS!! People must stop this negative talk because it's Africa. We are a proud and diverse nation who have never let the world down with a sporting event. Europeans who have never been to Africa are so damn naive. Yes there is crime, but if you careful then all will be ok.

Mel1/28/2010 8:16 AM: They are not wrong. The following headlines was on News24 just in the past couple of hours. "Teen raped on way to school" "Student nurse hurt in protest" "Businessman hijacked, beaten" "Man hurt in KZN shootout" "Man held for Ranburg hijacking" Today reported in BEELD": "Ma vasgebind, baba byna ontvoer" "Rowers verkrag, hang kind"

Roger1/28/2010 8:16 AM: Up theirs!!!!when last did they win anything in world soccer, England is even worse the last they won was a fixed 1966 world cup.

D man1/28/2010 8:14 AM: Surely someone could have done some research before considering SA to host the world cup. All these important people with all there knowledge on how to organise such an event........come on. It,s to late now. A sales man ( the goverment )will tell you anything you want to hear as long as you buy his product ( hosting the world cup ). Fact is fact SA is in the top five of highest crime and murder rate in the world.

Angus1/28/2010 8:13 AM: The Better Article is in the UK Guardian yesterday. Fifa is now admitting that 450,000 inbound fans is not going to happen. They refuse to disclose their downward revised estimates. UK FA clubs still have oodles of Tickets...for sale.

Correct1/28/2010 8:11 AM: Well unfortunately this is a very dangerous place in which the govt. does not even protect its own citizens. So, come visit at your peril, you have been warned!

maloom1/28/2010 8:11 AM: read the news papers and see how we live in fear not only from the criminals but we fear our police as well. and what do we do we have a "a.n.c" rally at tax payers expence and call it police day . WHEN YOU CANT SUCCEED ABOVE OUTHERS, DON'T ALLOW THEM TO SUCCEED!

Soccer Fan1/28/2010 8:10 AM: Sorry Jerome, i dont know how much you are getting out of this SWC, but i assume you have body guards unlike the rest of the World. SA is a crime ridden country and the levels of crime have increased drastically. I dont care if poverty/unemployment is to blame, but the bottom line is that you dont have to take ones life and shatter his/her family for a stupid cellphone or a laptop. The politicians are suddenly vocal on the issue of crime. Do we have to wait for another sporting event to tackle crime, Prisoners are being released because of High Cholesterol, What message does it sends to the would be thugs. Taking anothers life in this country has become an every day life of a thug. They dont care, they are terrorising families in this country. What good is it to boost an economy with these events and have its people slaughtered on a daily basis. We has a nation together fighting crime should have held this SWC to ransom. We should have held protests and stopped this in lieu of the govt action against crime. It is too late now. FIFA has give SA the world cup in the name of Mandela.

Hans1/28/2010 8:07 AM: FIFA just see the loot side of things. I am sad to say but there are going to be families who's lives will be ruined when they come to this lawless barbaric country. Think twice travellers!!!!!!!!

Zaq1/28/2010 8:06 AM: I think England and Germany are right!

KGB1/28/2010 8:05 AM: This is good! It is about time that the world know what is going on here. Don't bluff yourself SA. It is a dangerous country. It is no secret that the tourists WILL be targeted by criminals as soon as they step off the plane. It happens every day. we are just so used to the horror that it does not phase us any more. For tourists coming from peaceful countries, it will however be the end of their world if they fall prey to one of the many criminals.

Len van Heerden1/28/2010 8:05 AM: Germany surprises me because Germans have shown to be more open minded than the silly little Brits and Australians. Cannot even say the Germans are jealous, though they would be pissed off if they could be outdone by Africans (after Hitler's message). The Brits simply are sore losers and I would suggest that African countries not vote for England as a host of the World Cup in 2018

Dick Tracey1/28/2010 8:04 AM: The anti stab vests that were being marketed by the English was a joke. Thier knife crime is out of hand you have more chance of being Happy Slapped and stabbed in a major UK city than in SA. I admit that our gun crime is out of hand but where are the biggest culprits of soccer violence from? Not SA!!

Vincent Tseka1/28/2010 8:02 AM: Its so sad to be told by England & Germany that we are not good in osting the world cup, its so strange and as the country and the people of South Africa we are not happy about those comments. So many england soccer fans has been banned in attending matches in their own country they cannot tell us that we are not good. We have been voted and chosen by the poeple of the world to host this world cup and we will host it perfectly. We will not fall into their tricks and get angry , we want to show Germany an England that we are also part of the wolrd. They can decide not attend their matches and stay in their respective country we really dont care.We want them to come and bring that bad attitude in this counrty , the next minute they will be on their way back to europe. Their soccer fans are being called hooligans around the world an who are they to tell us about behaviour.

Johan1/28/2010 8:01 AM: Ek stem 100% saam met FIFA. Engeland en Duitsland is uiters pateties. Hulle kerm en kla oor alles. SA gaan 'n wonderlike toernooi aanbied - dit gaan die standaard vir toekomstige toernooie bepaal. Kyk net na die wonderlike dinge wat reeds gebeur het. Die stadiums is ongelooflik!! Ons steur ons glad nie aan Duitsland en Engeland nie. Ek dink hulle begin net verskoning bymekaar maak vir waneer hulle die toernooi verloor. Dan gaan dit weer wees dat die speler kon nie konsentreer nie want hulle was te bekommerd oor hulle veiligheid. Pateties!! Kom ons skors Duitsland en Engeland uit die toernooi - dan hoef hulle nie aangevaar blootgestel te word nie. Dan is hulle mos nou veilig.

Brent1/28/2010 8:00 AM: Well there is more negativity inside our own border. Maybe if our own citizens felt safe that would brew some positivity abroad. What the figures actually mean is england and germany actually know whats going on in this country! Hope the world cup is a success but for now Ill have to see it before I can believe It.

Connie1/28/2010 7:59 AM: I am originally from Europe and let me tell you that all they EVER see there is negative press about SA. But someone should stop and tell these uninformed people that there are millions of us... normal citizens... living and raising families in this beautiful country. If it is that bad none of us would still be living here!!!

odirile1/28/2010 7:57 AM: cant believe that are people who think AFRICA will never see the light

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