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SWC bidding process 'fixed'

2010-12-03 09:38

London - The Soccer World Cup bidding process was branded a fix on Thursday night - as it emerged Russia knew the result 24 hours before it was announced, The Sun reports.

Russia bid chief executive Alexey Sorokin was so confident he boldly told the England team in Zurich on Wednesday his country had enough votes in the bag.

And the claim by former Washington diplomat Sorokin proved to be spot on.

A source close to the bidding process said: "Sorokin clearly knew Russia had enough votes and he told the English that."

England went out in round one with two votes - one from our own man, one could have been from Japan - while Russia eased home in round two with 13 votes.

The shock claim makes a mockery of yesterday's presentations when Prince William, the Prime Minister and David Beckham were part of a five-man team pleading England's case.

Sorokin's boast came on the back of Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin proclaiming he would not attend the event because of 'unscrupulous competition'.

That was apparently a reference to English media investigations into FIFA's executive committee.

Spain's delegate Angel Maria Villar Llona tried to denigrate England's bid by telling fellow members of his outrage at the attacks on FIFA's integrity.

And he repeated this in the official Spain/Portugal presentation saying: "You've heard enough slander in the media. This process is clean."

But Russia had earlier claimed Spain did a deal with Qatar so they got 2018 and Qatar got 2022. Qatar won the 2022 vote but Spain lost out.

Sport24

Comments
  • lobo - 2010-12-03 09:51

    Shame, it's all so unfair.

  • NinjaDevil - 2010-12-03 09:56

    and if they got the event they wouldnt say anything. The british are whiners. I was so happy when i heard they didnt get the event.

  • michael.i.sekolane - 2010-12-03 09:57

    now the votes are fixed how low can english press get . u lost fair and square .

  • John Seloa - 2010-12-03 09:58

    Shame on England, BAD LOSERS!!! There they are thinking they are the only species in the whole world capable of organising this event. South Africa did not deserve it because it is a third world riddled with crime. Qatar cannot host it because it is oil rich and corrupt. Russia cannot hold it because it is racist. My my my!!! Who do these English think they are. The sooner they hang their thick, arrogant skulls in the nearest tree, the better. Just by writing all of this nonsense, they have squandered another chance to host the tournament in 2030. Shame on them. Soccer, not a host country or city, is a unifying sport. However, the British were able to make this a ground where they can show the world just how racist they can be. I do not understand why they would think Russia is more racist than they are. As a South African, I will immediately start saving for 2018 in Russia because that will be the place to be. I will never ever set my foot in London, not even on a free ticket. Dear English people, please hang your heads and face the wall until 2500. You have no place in the modern soccer game. Shame on you!!!

      Ant - 2010-12-03 11:21

      @ John ...you are not the brightest person around are you and funny you are actually sounding like the racist, clearly you know absolutely nothing about football and have never taken a step out of your silly little town wherever that is and know F all about the world around you ,,Please take your own advise and go and hang your stupid thick 2 brain cell skull against the nearest tree...Nob

      John Seloa - 2010-12-03 13:47

      Sorry Ant but I am not the one winging and complaining about what is a simple democratic process. Most importantly, please note that my country SOUTH AFRICA is NOT a puppet/stoogy of the USA. Now please go hang your thick skull on the nearest tree you can find and be ready for the best SWC in Russia in 2018. Oops sorry, if you cannot make it to Russia in 2018, then please JUST GO TO HELL. MORON

      James - 2010-12-04 14:18

      John, You have no idea what you are talking about. This is not an issue of racism, it's about a voting process which is riddled with corruption and a lack of transparency. There seems little point in spending millions of pounds bidding for a tournament which is awarded on the basis of who lines whose pocket rather than who is best suited to host the event. The problem with FIFA and the British press is that they don't like people prying into their business as they know it's corrupt, and they don't want to be exposed for what they are. If you are happy with FIFA and the way they run their shop, then fine. However, many fair minded people think that they are destroying the spirit and integrity of the game, and will ultimately ruin what is a fantastic sport. I doubt that anyone is going to go and hang themselves on your instruction, but people will think that you have a very naive view of the world, and a bigotted view of those in Britain.

  • mzeke.ramoroka - 2010-12-03 09:59

    This utterances are expected from the English anyway. Nothing was fixed. England lost, end of story

  • Marcus Daily - 2010-12-03 09:59

    ....I guess God did not save the queen this time, but hey look on the bright side...now you can say you are Russia's Plan B.

  • SuperCal - 2010-12-03 10:01

    freaking hell what a circus....cricket and soccer are rotten to the core...rugby is the true sportsman game

      Louise - 2010-12-03 10:33

      nope.....NOTHING will ever make me like rugby. I like soccer, warts and all

      Rob - 2010-12-03 12:39

      Thanks for that Louise... You have a sad life

      Rob - 2010-12-03 12:39

      Thanks for that Louise... You have a sad life

  • CB57 - 2010-12-03 10:03

    Read "Foul!" by Andrew Jennings!

  • Renny - 2010-12-03 10:12

    England, c'mon take i on the chin and accept it that there are other countries in world that are also passionate about soccer.

  • Gorilla - 2010-12-03 10:12

    I'd like to see the big teams boycot the event, lets see how that suits FIFA, maybe then they'll think about doing things properly.

      Val - 2010-12-03 11:27

      My thoughts exactly. Africa's cup was long overdue, it is in their pysche and some of the most famous drawcards in the leagues are from our continent. However, without the big European, South American and African names, the world cup would be a complete flop.....

      Nebula - 2010-12-03 14:14

      Hehehehe, This reminds when the olympics where held in USSR in the 80's most big nations boycotted and thats how The Zimbabwe womens hockey won a gold medal.. They were good though... So yah the big teams should boycott so that Zim soccer as well on the same soil... we willtake it..

  • bill - 2010-12-03 10:19

    FIFA's integrity ?? Dont make me laugh.Blatter and his gang of criminals are totally bent.It is time to end this farce and get rid of that German scumbag, Blatter, instead of treating him like royalty.

      Rory - 2010-12-03 12:22

      Blatter is Swiss bill! He is that Swiss Scumbag now.

  • Observer - 2010-12-03 10:20

    In all fairness, there is a decent chance that the vote was rigged beforehand. But, honestly, do we really care??? We had out turn, we did a fantastic job, had a lot of fun, and also saw firsthand what FIFA has now become. England could consider themselves fortunate not to have become another province of FIFA/Sepp.

  • Gordon Reid - 2010-12-03 10:20

    Maybe the BBC should have thought about the possible consequences before broadcasting when they did. They have a very long time to think about it now...

  • Jonathan - 2010-12-03 10:37

    What's the issue here? Sorokin, like every other representative I guess, obviously canvassed FIFA committee members and got their assurances that they would vote for Russia. Based on those assurances he made his claim. I doubt the committee members wait until the final presentations to make their decisions - they would know who they intend supporting well beforehand, and were able to tell Russia that they would back them. The bad losers are making an issue out of nothing here.

  • chiepner - 2010-12-03 10:52

    Wow, just as you think the Brittish press cant possibly get any lower they come up with this gem of a "words out of context" little number. Was it not Beckham that said he thought after himself, royalty and the PM lobbying for votes with all those involved voting that England would get it and it all looked so positive. In other words if england won it would this of meant that they knew the result before hand?

  • Chief Belebe - 2010-12-03 10:58

    I'm so flabbergasted at England's dismal display in the bidding process. I'm afraid to say that i knew this would happen from the Lord Triesman saga coupled with numerous coverages in the media by the Brits, themselves. I feel for all the English men and women who worked tirelessly to try and bring the World Cup to England. But such is the phony our own FIFA emasculate in our own eyes on the voting process. It leaves alot to be desired, how can a multi billion dollar event be determined by only a handful of people? Eish i'm thwarted and i don't believe i'll ever trust FIFA cos this was clearly a slap in the face. Shame on FIFA, shame on Mr Blatter. It could have saved you (FIFA) a big deal of discomfiture if you'd have just picked and choose these two Nations than going ahead with your bogus voting. I'm gatvol!

  • Chief Belebe - 2010-12-03 10:59

    I'm so flabbergasted at England's dismal display in the bidding process. I'm afraid to say that i knew this would happen from the Lord Triesman saga coupled with numerous coverages in the media by the Brits, themselves. I feel for all the English men and women who worked tirelessly to try and bring the World Cup to England. But such is the phony our own FIFA emasculate in our own eyes on the voting process. It leaves alot to be desired, how can a multi billion dollar event be determined by only a handful of people? Eish i'm thwarted and i don't believe i'll ever trust FIFA cos this was clearly a slap in the face. Shame on FIFA, shame on Mr Blatter. It could have saved you (FIFA) a big deal of discomfiture if you'd have just picked and choose these two Nations than going ahead with your bogus voting. I'm gatvol!

  • Fidel Castro - 2010-12-03 10:59

    After South Africa got cheated out of hosting the 2006 World Cup, didnt South Africa know from then that they would get the 2010 Soccer World Cup? Poor England, my heart bleeds for them! Well done comrades! You did it for Mother Russia!

      scipio - 2010-12-03 12:08

      Nope they didn't. Bloody Communist

  • bkm - 2010-12-03 11:04

    My response is to CB57. Amen! Although the critics will tarnish Andrew Jennings as a Brit and a whiner. His book made for good reading,; although the Crown Prince of Corrupt accused him of writing fairy tales.

  • Thabiso - 2010-12-03 11:08

    I so happy that England did not get the world cup, remember all the bad publicity they gave us (RSA) before the world cup. South africa, haven for criminals. look who's laughing now

      dylanswanie - 2010-12-04 13:00

      Exactly, but if they got it and when Englands screws it up we will force them to eat there words... I reckon we had the best SWC so far!

  • Neutedop - 2010-12-03 11:28

    Hahaha -Ince again England - ask you're bribe money back!

      Neutedop - 2010-12-03 11:28

      Sorry-once

  • VAD - 2010-12-03 11:34

    Maybe the Russians did their homework better by canvassing individuals in advance. These individuals confirmed their vote to Russia and hence they knew who was voting for them and could proclaim they had enough votes. This does not mean the voting process is fixed.

  • Negondeni - 2010-12-03 11:37

    wow..i am so impressed with FIFA ..welldone sir blatter....i mean every country deserve a chance to host the world cup...wow FIFA is always fair...it's not always all about Europe or America...the next world cup is goin to america

  • juniorbukudu - 2010-12-03 11:55

    if my memory serves me well, The Sun is the same paper that said there are machete wielding gangs in the streets of south africa. they have now gone and written a lot of rubbish because they had lost the bid. good riddance and the fact that England got only two votes, it shows that they had lost fair and square. shame askies the English sore losers. they sure think that the world revolves around them NXA

  • Base - 2010-12-03 12:01

    Watch out!! Russia and Qatar ,England,Australia and USA will soon find soccerballs of mash destruction in your backyard.

  • WPWW - 2010-12-03 12:16

    is the russians have their blood stained paws in it its definitely fixed. these are the nigerians of europe

  • scott - 2010-12-03 12:28

    ENGLAND U WANKERS, HAHAHAHAHA

  • U1 - 2010-12-03 12:29

    FIFA will take it where they get the most money. They are not worried about soccer, they worry about making money. Part of the soccer hooligans.

      Allan - 2010-12-03 13:41

      I agree fully . I wonder how Wealthy those FIFA Bladdy agents are

  • Base - 2010-12-03 12:45

    THANKS FIFA!!!!! NEVER TO ENGLAND AND USA,THEY ARE GOOD AT MAKING WAR.HA,HA,HA

  • mikeyl - 2010-12-03 13:16

    I think Fifa should move their headquarters to Somalia - where corruption,piracy,bribary,pillaging is most common in an un-democratic state, and in all probability will host the 2026 World Cup.They deserve each other, a wedding made in heaven, but both are doomed for the future and will fail in the next 10 years.

      veto111 - 2010-12-03 15:47

      Or maybe to jozi

  • urbanhealthgreenside - 2010-12-03 13:16

    the vote was always going to favour eastern Europe> sep blatter seems to have been around for as long as Bob Mugabe

  • zembam123 - 2010-12-03 13:45

    England were very confident that they had it all wrapped-up. On the other hand, Russia were also so confident that they even told the English that they had the ball in the bag. While the English would have emptied Buckingham palace to ensure that they lobbied enough, Russia was also playing chess among the voting delegates. In the end Russia won; does that mean the voting was fixed? C'mon England, accept that life is not always about what you want to see done.

  • Layman - 2010-12-03 13:48

    Russia one can still live with. They can grow the game there. Qatar does not make sense. What is the point of giving a population size of 1.5 million. How will soccer grow in that country. What is the point of playing in 45 degress Celsius. There is something funny here. Fifa voting has to go to the all members of fifa instead of the 22 that was 24 before. This is rigged.

  • spiderkzn - 2010-12-03 16:04

    Come on england. you got Olympic 2012 and Rugby World cup 2015. let Russia have a chance. Well i wish Australia hosting in 2022. Congratulation Qatar....

  • Sharkie - 2010-12-03 16:29

    I am a female South African living in Qatar & all I can say is............Well done Qatar! You deserve it. A beautiful country so misunderstood by the rest of the world.....just like South Africa was!

      tonyneill - 2010-12-04 11:14

      Butch In spite of the oil wealth this event will cripple little Quatar. Ten massive stadiums, the accomodation, transport and infrastructure, even a new airport to deal with the massive increase in passengers for one month of chaos, then what? Lets face it Quatar doesn't have the attractions to warrant a second visit (or even a first!). Furthermore its not exactly a fun/party place with lots to do.

  • DILLIGAS - 2010-12-03 21:07

    England's insidious press corps cost them this bid. Between the Sunday Times exposé and the BBC documentary on the eve of the vote how did they expect that it would not affect the vote by the very men they were accusing, with no real evidence, of fraud? I for one am stoked they didn't get it!! After the lies and malicious reporting about SA leading up to FIFA2010 by the British press I see it as a well deserved comeuppance caused by the self same arrogant reporting styles. I won't even go into the sheer arrogance of the Brits who feel they have an inalienable right to do what ever they want wherever they choose!! Waiter, more Vodka please......Nazdorovia!!!

  • deidre.swanepoel - 2010-12-03 22:45

    russia should learn from south africa we build all these big stadiums an what happend after the wc, its empty and expencive to run. futhermore fifa is like the mafia, they come into your country and take over. everything needs to be done as fifa wants it, rules needs to be changed to fit fifa. if you ask me, keep them out of your country, they are a bunch of power seeking old men who think they have it all.

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