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SA soccer not up to scratch?

2010-01-29 11:35

Johannesburg - Former Kaizer Chiefs winger Thabang "Chillies" Lebese says the standard of South African football has dropped tremendously over the last couple of years.

The hard-running player was part of the Amakhosi set-up for an extended period and played with the likes of Doctor Khumalo, Shakes Kungoane, Thabo Mooki, Pollen Ndlanya, Jacob Brian Baloyi and many others.

He tells the Siya crew that he no longer enjoys watching local football as it played at a dull pace with no individual brilliance like in his day.

“I cannot even tell you who my favourite player is. Don’t tell me about today’s players. Even the player we put our hopes on, Teko Modise, does not do it for me. He’s only good when he has the ball. What about off-the-ball running? There is a lot that needs to be done,” said Lebese.

The 36-year-old Lebese, who also played for Orlando Pirates, also revealed that, contrary to popular belief, he hasn’t retired from the game, “I’m available for any team that needs my service. I’m as fit as a fiddle and I believe I can still do the job.”

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Comments
  • Joe - 2010-01-29 11:45

    it was never up to scratch.... players here want to go on about wage demands before they even win a damn game....

  • sam - 2010-01-29 11:46

    look who's talking!!! what a joke.

  • Joe - 2010-01-29 11:46

    it was never up to scratch.... players here want to go on about wage demands before they even win a damn game....

  • StuartW - 2010-01-29 11:50

    If nobody believes the supporters, please listen to ex players...this guy was good and played with great players...why can our guys not keep up the pace anymore?

  • The Voice of Reason - 2010-01-29 11:54

    There are definate problems in the PSL, but I am sure that they can be solved. The one problem is teh pitch quality. While this is getting better, some stadiums still have really bad pitches, good ground staff are needed. The other problem is that our PSL teams don't take the CAF competitions seriosly. These competions provide a great chance for our players to be exposed on a continetal level. SAFA needs to force PSL teams to play in the CAF comps if they qualify.

  • thibos - 2010-01-29 12:07

    this is the last person to criticize the standard of south african soccer. yerrrr. during his playing days he was chasing the skirt and failed to play entertaining soccer. maybe he is going mad.

  • @sam - 2010-01-29 12:11

    you are the one who is a joke and an a**** for thinking that there are any players currently worth writting about.

  • Kael - 2010-01-29 12:12

    Bafana's biggest problem is that they do not understand the structure of the game of football. We have one or two reasonable players but there is no team. They do not understand the game. Period.

  • Aitsa - 2010-01-29 12:14

    I'd say Siphiwe Tshabalala, Ithumeleng Khune and Katlego Mphela gives me far more joy to watch than Lebese, Baloyi or - god forbid - Ndlanya ever did. SA club soccer is not up to the standard of 10 or 12 years ago, but it's a damn lot better than in the days of Lebese, Mooki and those mugus. Lebese - retired or not retired? No wonder no one can tell the difference.

  • zaza - 2010-01-29 12:17

    thats a Voice of a broke man,i can borrow you my old 325is if its cool with u!

  • Brett - 2010-01-29 12:17

    Absolutely, in 1996 we won the African nations cup and two years later were good enough to make the final. our world ranking continues to drop. Even whilst we have the supposed best league in Africa, thousands if not millions of youngsters interested in the game. South African soccers players don't have the work ethic and commitment than our european counterparts.

  • dave rees - 2010-01-29 12:17

    Here's a guy who sees it as it is. Well said Chillies. For too long the poor coaches have taken the blame for Bafunny Bafunny's shortcomings. They don't know how to play as a team and they certainly haven't a clue what to do when they're in front of the opposing goalposts. They would never have made it into the World Cup competition if they weren't the host nation. Can't bear to watch them!

  • BB King - 2010-01-29 12:18

    Who is this "hasbeen" Did he ever play for the national squad

  • Proudly - 2010-01-29 12:20

    Um sorry banda and i believe even in your time the players before you said the same about your game, things change bro we need to understand that, as for you being on football pitch again wow that will be the day i think your time is long up and that wont help the cause either

  • Bheki - 2010-01-29 12:22

    True it has really dropped it really not like in the days of Thabang, Tsikitsiki that soccer was very interesting to watch, it has a mix of fast and slow phase, there were likes of Doc "16v" who set the standard of the game

  • JohnP - 2010-01-29 12:22

    They think they are the "Manne" now that they have beaten Zimbabwe who are ranked a 1000 and something in the world. They need more white players then you will see a good team.

  • @SAM - 2010-01-29 12:35

    Get a life Sam, Lebese has a right to speak, this man even invented his own jumping dance each time he scored a goal. Teko Modise to me as well does not deserve this hype! McDonals & Shield must take away their wasted sponsors to this man.

  • Sello "Two-Two" Jelle - 2010-01-29 12:36

    Well, I hope he will also be bold enough to admit that he squandered his life too, particularly his money!

  • lucas makhae - 2010-01-29 12:38

    I think it is time to rally behind bafana bafana in making sure that they play a very good FOOT BALL during the 2010 world cup here in our beloved country, we may have our views as to what should happen or should not have happen before the world cup in improving the standard of foot ball,the fact is, it is true what thabang lebese is saying and the second fact is that with the time not in our favour there is nothing we can do about that ,but to fully support our national soccer team till the end of the world cup who knows they might through our undivided support as President JACOB ZUMA said surprise the world and make sure that the cup remain within the boarders of SOUTH AFRICA.VIVA BAFANA BAFANA VIVA!

  • lucas makhae - 2010-01-29 12:45

    I think it is time to rally behind bafana bafana in making sure that they play a very good FOOT BALL during the 2010 world cup here in our beloved country, we may have our views as to what should happen or should not have happen before the world cup in improving the standard of foot ball,the fact is, it is true what thabang lebese is saying and the second fact is that with the time not in our favour there is nothing we can do about that ,but to fully support our national soccer team till the end of the world cup who knows they might through our undivided support as President JACOB ZUMA said surprise the world and make sure that the cup remain within the boarders of SOUTH AFRICA.VIVA BAFANA BAFANA VIVA!

  • lucas makhae - 2010-01-29 12:50

    I think it is time to rally behind bafana bafana in making sure that they play a very good FOOT BALL during the 2010 world cup here in our beloved country, we may have our views as to what should happen or should not have happen before the world cup in improving the standard of foot ball,the fact is, it is true what thabang lebese is saying and the second fact is that with the time not in our favour there is nothing we can do about that ,but to fully support our national soccer team till the end of the world cup who knows they might through our undivided support as President JACOB ZUMA said surprise the world and make sure that the cup remain within the boarders of SOUTH AFRICA.VIVA BAFANA BAFANA VIVA!

  • lucas makhae - 2010-01-29 12:54

    I think it is time to rally behind bafana bafana in making sure that they play a very good FOOT BALL during the 2010 world cup here in our beloved country, we may have our views as to what should happen or should not have happen before the world cup in improving the standard of foot ball,the fact is, it is true what thabang lebese is saying and the second fact is that with the time not in our favour there is nothing we can do about that ,but to fully support our national soccer team till the end of the world cup who knows they might through our undivided support as President JACOB ZUMA said surprise the world and make sure that the cup remain within the boarders of SOUTH AFRICA.VIVA BAFANA BAFANA VIVA!

  • lucas makhae - 2010-01-29 12:55

    I think it is time to rally behind bafana bafana in making sure that they play a very good FOOT BALL during the 2010 world cup here in our beloved country, we may have our views as to what should happen or should not have happen before the world cup in improving the standard of foot ball,the fact is, it is true what thabang lebese is saying and the second fact is that with the time not in our favour there is nothing we can do about that ,but to fully support our national soccer team till the end of the world cup who knows they might through our undivided support as President JACOB ZUMA said surprise the world and make sure that the cup remain within the boarders of SOUTH AFRICA.VIVA BAFANA BAFANA VIVA!

  • pete - 2010-01-29 13:00

    the last sentence sounds like an open CV to the SWC consideration. I have to agree that the pace of the games back in the nineties was faster than we see today. Today the games require more tactic and skill. The comments made above are harsh to the players selected and cannot be compared to a "once was" who is now trying to get back in the squad.

  • Siviwe - 2010-01-29 13:30

    Well, soccer was so interesting that Lebese is now selling insurance on the streets... What the h$ll does he know? If someone had said it, then this argument would have had weight.

  • dave rees - 2010-01-29 13:48

    Sello, what has squandering his life and money got to do with it? You're going off at a tangent like a true politician. Let's talk about the facts of the matter man.

  • Zolani - 2010-01-29 14:04

    Bafana is going to make History this year. They will be the first host nation in the history of the SWC to be knocked out in the first round. If they do win, it will be the toss.

  • allan - 2010-01-29 14:11

    Lebese and the writer of the article are merely articulating what we all already know. Banana Banana consists of a bunch of clueless prima donnas who imagine that the world owes them respect. They'd struggle in English Div 2.

  • Concerned - 2010-01-29 14:40

    Totally agree with you Brett!!! Our football has been going down for yrs now. Just look at our performances since 1996. 96 Champions, 2000 Runners up, 2000 semifinalist and then the rot carries on until recently when we did not qualify. Its a pity that people will insult a former player and dont consider what the man is saying. As a black South African im truly sad that we do not try and give solutions but rather we criticize.

  • james - 2010-01-29 14:55

    Lebese you are an Idiot!!!! Yes it's not up to scratch but the only platform to test it is the World Cup. You will definately be ashamed of your comments. What did you archieve as a soccer player??? I wonder!!!!!

  • Mandla - 2010-01-29 15:15

    Hahahaha!! I'm certain Thabang wishes he could reverse time. He's kicking his heels, asking "why?". Sorry boet. You had your time, and have got nothing to show for it. How much did they pay you for the interview? Come play in our Sunday social league. We'll collect enough money to buy you a pair of soccer boots.Sies, man!!

  • Bafana - 2010-01-29 16:05

    @allan. Allan you are telling us what we already know, that there are people who jump at every sinlge stupid opportunity to degrade the national team being it relevant or not.

  • Gaetumela - 2010-01-29 16:12

    Lebese, do you want to be the next SA coachm please apply for the hot seat and we are not going to STOP you.

  • Dave Stunna - 2010-01-29 17:02

    Lebese ???!!!! No doubt you were good in your days. . BUT!!! after playing with you last year when we hosted the Viagra CUP. . .There's no way you'll make professional.!!! No offence but forget it bra. . .in my language we say. . .o Kgomo!!

  • collin Nyabadza - 2010-01-29 22:47

    This is a true analysis.South African football authorities should take such comments seriously.The lack of talented players is hampering the Bafana Bafana's progress.With the calibre of players the country has now even with a coach from the moon,Bafana Bafana are not going anywhere. All the clubs in the country need to come up with a vibrant youth policy system so as to nurture young promising players.They need to borrow a page from Ajax Amsterdam's Youth Academy that has seen them produce so many quality players like Patrick Kluivert,Edgar Davids, etc. Actually, the Bafana needs a coach from Netherlands, a country with a highly reputable coaching school .The country is not yet ready for a local coach.Sometimes we should learn to swallow our pride. Brazilian coaches are only good when they work with a very good set of players something which the Bafana does not have.Right now South Africa needs a coach who is also good at unearthing talent.This they can only get from a Dutch coach.

  • condy - 2010-01-30 08:57

    Chillis, ur days are gone and like others i, don't buy ur story when u says u r still strong and can play prof soccer again. i, agree with u our soccer is still lacking but pls don't compare urself to general Teko. the boy is good, far much better than u.

  • Rodney Swart - 2010-01-30 09:03

    Anyone who would like to know the state of our soccer should go to Superfootball website and check on Ted Dimitru's analyses. 'Till then you are wasting your words and emotions.

  • Nqobie - 2010-01-30 09:13

    African countries will never do better this World cup.I think its a waste of resources for South Africa to host this soccer extravaganza.Surely Africa we need to solve our poverty.Have any one asked why there is much crime in South Africa?Black people are so poor.Surely i do agree with Zolani.South africa is going to be eliminated in the first round.Anyway all African teams are useless

  • themba pHIRI - 2010-02-01 07:04

    Lebese is quite right, keep quite you guys, we no his life off the field was not good bt away from that I think Lebese and other legends can do better than the present crop of players why not invite top teams in Southern Africa such as Zambia, Malawi or Mozambique, than inviting Zimbabwe which is low in football standards

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