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R1m to investigate stadium roof

2012-04-16 10:36

Cape Town - The city of Cape Town is to spend R1 million investigating why sections of the Cape Town Stadium roof appears to be coming loose, the Cape Times reported on Monday.

During a routine inspection a year ago, a few bolts were found to have failed, even though the roof was designed to withstand strong south-easterly winds.

Mayoral committee member Grant Pascoe guaranteed the safety of the stadium.

He told the newspaper that Arup Consulting Engineers had been appointed for R1 million to conduct an independent professional review. The stadium had cost ratepayers R44.6 million over the last financial year.
 

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  • ludlowdj - 2012-04-16 10:53

    Not only do we have a bunch of white elephant stadiums it would also appear they were very badly built. Well done to the ANC on another glaring failure.

      Bomb - 2012-04-16 11:07

      Good comment. This is what happens when deadlines are rushed and corners are cut. Probably some "unqualified" staff involved as well. SWC was a total waste of money apart from a very embarrassing display of the level of South African soccer. What have these white elephants contributed to the poor and disadvantaged after the SWC. The money spent on maintaining these gargoyles of the ANC government could rather be used to maintain infrastructure and build houses. Nice ANC,.............niice,

      Bongani - 2012-04-16 11:19

      May be im drunk, what do you mean by white Elephant stadiums, because the last time i checked all stadiums were being used or you are refering to the Nelson Mandela bay which is currently used by the Eastern Cape rugby team which is called the Elephants?. i think your negativity in this regard is unwarranted. Western Cape is doing the right thing for fixing the stadium, although i would think they should have signed some kind of a guarantee for a certain period at least.

      goyougoodthing - 2012-04-16 11:30

      Bongani they cost more than they bring in - they are white elephants. Not needed then or now - R44 million last year for Cape Town stadium alone. A few soccer matches can't bring in that kind of money.

      Bongani - 2012-04-16 11:44

      Goyougoodthing, then you must change your expression. You can not say they are white elephants because they are expensive to maintain. Just say they are loss making stadiums. I know English is not our first language here in South Africa, but surely we can try.

      Jason - 2012-04-16 11:51

      Bongani a white elephant is an entity that runs at a loss! So the Cape Town Stadium is currently a white elephant!

      sadilligaf - 2012-04-16 11:51

      @bonganI, FYI: A white elephant is an idiom for a valuable but burdensome possession of which its owner cannot dispose and whose cost (particularly cost of upkeep) is out of proportion to its usefulness or worth. The term derives from the story that the kings of Siam (now Thailand) were accustomed to make a present of one of these animals to courtiers who had rendered themselves obnoxious, in order to ruin the recipient by the cost of its maintenance. In modern usage, it is an object, scheme, business venture, facility, etc., considered to be without use or value. Seems a pretty fair description in this case.

      Bongani - 2012-04-16 12:04

      Jason and dilligaf. Thank you for trying by you description of white elephant is wrong. Are you saying when Toyota made a loss was a white elephant, no. No one tried to dispose Cape town stadium so it can not be classified as a white elephant as Dilligaf put it. i winning this argument so please give up.

      Gareth - 2012-04-16 12:09

      @ Bongani, I'm tickled by your comments. Firstly, you intimate that simply using an asset deems said asset as 'valuable', completely ignoring the fact that the asset is costing an enormous amount of money rather than earning anything. Secondly, you purport to be the doyenne of a language you have openly acknowledged perplexes you. Gee... Is your name really Jackson Mthembu?

      Gerald - 2012-04-16 12:16

      Bongani You have been given the definition a a "white elephant' and you still want to argue about it after admitting that english is not your first language and when did you become an expert in English. Would anybody in their right minds buy Cape Town Stadium NO . so there it is a white elephant and you have lost unless you can give the "proper" definition of the term

      Chez - 2012-04-16 15:03

      @ Bongani. I agree with you. People (whites) should stop ALWAYS being so negative. For us to host the SWC we had to have stadiums of a certain size. This applies to all countries hosting the SWC. I'm sure some of them also have stadiums seldom used but because it's in a "white" country it must be better. The Cape Town stadium is beautiful and will be used for all rugby games as the old Newlands does not meet world safety standards (guess when it was built!!). Moses Mabida in Durban is also a beautiful stadium and we should be proud of it. And i'm and old white woman who gre up in the "glory days" of apartheid. Get a grip white people and stop looking to Europe, unless you are planning on leaving..in which case; don't let the door knock you on the behind on the way out!!

      ThaBob - 2012-04-16 16:48

      Ok Bongani - lets call them black elephants

      steyts - 2012-04-17 08:52

      @Alicia - You took the words right out of my mouth!!! It seems like a case of tenders being thrown to people who can't do the job properly... Like Venacular in Trevor Noah's show: "EVEN MEEE, EVEN MEE I WANT A TENDER!!!" HAHAHAHA....

  • dave.leverton - 2012-04-16 10:57

    Let's rather have parts of the roof fly off and injure or kill some passers-by. But it's okay for Tokyo Sexwale to spend R2 billion rectifying shoddy RDP houses.....

  • Frank - 2012-04-16 10:59

    Why so much money? Just to INVESTIGATE? This is corruption at its best! Its not only the ANC that is corrupt after all, the madam has joined the party

      Bzeng - 2012-04-16 11:12

      Ass maintainin a billion property isnt the same as nailin a shack and itz within the stadium budget!!

      Ze Don - 2012-04-16 11:13

      No professional engineering firm works for free. The biggest instance of corruption was that these useless stadiums were built in the first place!

      steyn.jacobs - 2012-04-16 11:42

      I can't see how this has anything to do with corruption?

      Peter - 2012-04-16 11:43

      Lets be frank Frank, you don't know what you're talking about.

      johan.vanhoff - 2012-04-16 13:56

      SHE IS TRYING TO FIX THE ANC MESS, FOOL.

      Sean - 2012-04-17 10:22

      @Frank , they say TIK is bad for you !!

  • flysouth - 2012-04-16 11:00

    Why on earth are not the designers and/or builders called back to rectify their bad workmanship - for free?

      Ashley - 2012-04-16 11:39

      I was involved in the building of that stadium. The roofing contractors came from Germany, the Glass came from Kuwait. There is a 5 year defects warranty on workmanship, there is also retention to pay for this, should it be contractors default, so don't stress. the cost to inspect forms part of the retention.

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-04-16 11:44

      Thanks Ashley. After your comment I see no reason for any other.

      Andrew - 2012-04-16 12:03

      Ashley, I was also involved in the construction for my part and I think you hit the problem on the head. I remember there being a problem where the Kuwait guys designed the bots to US standards and the German company designed the nuts to EU sizing so they didn't fit properly. I had thought the problem was resolved but perhaps some short cuts were taken. Its going to be a long and costly legal proceeding to get to the bottom of this.

      Nosiphom - 2012-04-16 14:58

      Thanks Ashley for the refreshing info. I wonder if they really used graded bolts or standard bolts from a hardware store?

      Nosiphom - 2012-04-16 14:58

      Thanks Ashley for the refreshing info. I wonder if they really used graded bolts or standard bolts from a hardware store?

      Press - 2012-04-16 17:13

      @Ashley - was it you that approved a tender for imperial sized bolts to be delivered in an ISS country by Kuwaiti's ? - you and your buddies werent doing your job then ????

  • wesley.bischoff - 2012-04-16 11:00

    Get the morons who built it to fix what is wrong. You pay for something to be done properly, then you have a right to demand to get what you pay for. Unless of course if the reason is because of unskilled workers...

  • sabongam - 2012-04-16 11:00

    Its amazing how there isn't even a single negative comment about this. If it was this story was linked to the govt. there would be so much outcry from so-called whites liberals(DA supporters). How deafening the silence is when Cape Town does something which might be perceived to be "controversial".Goes to show how racist double standards are applied by this bunch who like to make comments against govt.on this platform.Am not saying don't criticise govt. but don't do so only when it suits you or when its pointing towards you/your party.

      Bzeng - 2012-04-16 11:09

      so fool u tryin to say im racist because I criticis gvrnment.. We 4pplz safety the stadium must be checkd and properly fixd.. Atleast city of cape town will not 1st celebrate before the problem is solved: thtz tha diffrnce

      Bzeng - 2012-04-16 11:09

      so fool u tryin to say im racist because I criticis gvrnment.. 4pplz safety the stadium must be checkd and properly fixd.. Atleast city of cape town will not 1st celebrate before the problem is solved: thtz tha diffrnce

      esethu3 - 2012-04-16 11:34

      But my WHITE South African friends are angry, super angry...........

      Press - 2012-04-16 17:17

      Sabongam - see above - appears it might have been Ashley and Andrew who were not doing their job - they clearly knew about the problem . . .

      Peter - 2012-04-17 09:11

      sabonga-whatever ..... rather keep your mouth shut before making more of a fool of yourself boet. CPT and DA are FIXING the problem left to them by th ANC NATIONAL Fraudsters. Controversial for DA?Really? Seriously? Wake up kid!!

      Sean - 2012-04-17 10:24

      @sabongam - Did you also get a F in woodwork ?

  • hc12345 - 2012-04-16 11:12

    Why should they pay? Surely the guys who build it in the first place must be responsible!

      Sean - 2012-04-17 10:25

      I fully agree with you !

  • esethu3 - 2012-04-16 11:16

    STOP TRYING TO FIND A WAY OF BLAMING THE ANC. The DA is wasting money this TIME not the ANC

      Rob - 2012-04-16 12:12

      esethu, you are a bit short in the intelligence area, aren't you1

      Gareth - 2012-04-16 12:14

      esthu3... How exactly is the DA wasting money? Put simply: spending a small amount of money to solve a problem that is possibly capable of costing multiple times more to fix, or worse, costing lives, is really just good management. Your accusation leads one to think that you are probably of the school of thought that curing is better than preventing. So, you choose the broom, i choose the dustbin.

      Peter - 2012-04-17 09:13

      esethu666 ---- Pull your head out of your ass kid. ANC are ALWAYS to blame .... just like Apartheid is ALWAYS to blame ... you choose ..... 1/sood.

      Sean - 2012-04-17 10:27

      @esethu3 - You are just a `` oxygen thief ``

  • Peter - 2012-04-16 11:17

    The contractor who built the stadium must account. Otherwise investigate DA-led government.

      goyougoodthing - 2012-04-16 11:32

      Peter Peter how sad. The ANC is a mess and you try and blame the DA - woeful.

      Peter - 2012-04-16 12:44

      goyougoodthing... very sad, this is now a poor reasoning from you. And you blame ANC supporters when they defend their movement, while doing the same. pathetic.

      Peter - 2012-04-17 09:14

      Oh my GAWD!! Another Peter?? I'll have to change my name ...FAST!! As this has head-in-ass sickness!!

  • Sithembiso - 2012-04-16 11:21

    Guys let us be honest with one another, there is no need to blame the ANC for this. People who built the stadium are to be blame here and one thing i know for sure is that it wasnt an incompetent BEE/EE company that built the stadium. Gvnt, at least ANC gvnt, has nothing to do with this. Ask the city council that was responsible for this at that time.

      Jan - 2012-04-16 12:01

      As I recollect, the original contracts were signed by the then ANC WC government & council.

      Peter - 2012-04-17 09:15

      Exactly Jan ---but lets not have the FACTS cloud the ANC-sheep-mentality.

  • Klipkop - 2012-04-16 11:25

    They should have revamped the Athlone stadium for the world cup and should never have built this monstrosity. Pathetic. When last was there an event at this empty stadium? A sport event? Not a jazz event. Total waste of money. Now the roof is busy collapsing basically, flatten the thing I say and give us a piece of nature back.

  • Lyzelle - 2012-04-16 11:26

    I always thought the "money tree" was just a joke - now I see the jokers have money trees!!!!!!!!

  • sgangca - 2012-04-16 11:27

    this is all nonsense. Where is the hand over and after care report from the project manager?

      mfudzi.wamambo - 2012-04-16 11:50

      exactly, so where is this million bucks earmarked for? i don't want to suppose it's meant to pay the construction company again?

  • Dhavandran - 2012-04-16 11:28

    just like your unfinished highway hanging in mid air. some cement and dagga and you start there and i here ,we should meet there.is this your mayoral committee assurance?beeeeeeeeeebaaaaaaabeeeeee

  • Frans - 2012-04-16 11:30

    Let the contractors fix their own mess.

      Mike Purchase - 2012-04-16 14:03

      well said frans,plain and simple.

  • Bongani - 2012-04-16 11:32

    don't use R1m to investigate use it to repair then fine the contactor

      Peter - 2012-04-17 09:19

      Hmmmmmm .... Bongani ---- and how are we supposed to know WHAT to fix without investigating the issue first? Hmmmmmmm ????? Remember kid ... this is not a Toyota Hiace taxi we are talking about.

  • Fredster - 2012-04-16 11:39

    I will save you M1... Just tell the flippen contractors that build the damn thing to fix it...finish and klaar. Talkin about wasting money. The reviewers are probably buddies as well.

      Leonard - 2012-04-16 12:39

      I can't agree more!

      Peter - 2012-04-17 09:19

      ..... then don't leonard.

  • siliziwem - 2012-04-16 11:40

    why nt fix ths instead of investigating...ths is nt a political matter either, so out with politics!

      Peter - 2012-04-17 09:21

      Hmmmm --- sy my comment to Bongani sili- ...... and it is political as the ANC will MAKE it political first chance they get!! They will conveniently forget thatTHEY awarded the tender under threat of NOT being paid a back-hand to fund their centenary celebrations.

  • Angelo - 2012-04-16 11:40

    Just a thought as too why an independent company has been brought in to assess whats going... Maybe City of Cape Town is planing on suing the original contractor for repairing plus the cost of the investigation because that original contractor won't admit a multi-million rand fault so readily. Why jump in and start repairing willy-nilly without understanding the cause and extent of the damage? I'm glad that's not the way we operate in the republic of the western cape. I don't know what we going to do with the stadium maybe just "give" it to WPRFU in order for the bleeding to stop. 44 million could be used to better so many schools or hospitals in Cape Town/ Western Cape. Funnily enough the Western Cape Government did raise the issue of money that would be wasted after the World Cup on the upkeep of these stadiums, but their concerns were ignored and they were called racists(Good old race card), and they were forced into constructing the stadium . I have no doubt that the original contractor will be made to pay. Watch and learn.

      mfudzi.wamambo - 2012-04-16 11:54

      the cause is plain shoddy work, nothing else. the contract should stipulate any after care for defects not caused by the owner, so whats happening here? the western cape government is getting itself ready for administration!

      Angelo - 2012-04-16 12:05

      @mfudzi.wamambo - That's exactly the reason for the investigation, i guess. The stadium has a workmanship warranty of 5 years. So if the workmanship was shoddy they would be held accountable. I don't see how the western cape government might be getting ready for administration...please enlighten me as to how you made that connection.

      Angelo - 2012-04-16 14:37

      @Watchman - Cape Town / Western Cape government, who else? I agree,and have stated, that the money that is being spent on the upkeep of the stadium should be used elsewhere. Lets be realistic, the cape town staduim will NEVER be demolished but hopefully i deal can be struck with the WPRFU to take ownership of the white elephant.

  • mfudzi.wamambo - 2012-04-16 11:44

    Are they spending R1000 000,00 to investigate or to repair?

  • sabongam - 2012-04-16 11:46

    @Bzeng - you idiotic moron, I don't know where you were educated, you should stop writing grammatically incorrect English rubbish...And you call me a fool? Oh and by the way, also learn to spell properly you twat.

  • DuToitCoetzee - 2012-04-16 11:46

    I think all should read Ashley's comment under flysouth.

      Alan - 2012-04-16 12:29

      Yip - the poor workmanship (if it is) will be borne by the contractor.

  • niel.coetzee - 2012-04-16 12:06

    I think the guys dragging the ANC or DA into this are idiots. Seriously, how long will it take before morons stop bringing politics or even racism into matters like these?? We had specialist international companies over to oversee the construction of the project. I agree with all those saying that this is purely bad workmanship from the contractors and I have all faith that we will sue for the inspection costs should it come to bad construction, so please stop with all the negativity. With regards to the stadium bleeding money, we should definitely have looked at upgrading existing stadiums instead of building new ones since stadiums are not renowned for making loads of profit and are more of a costly privilege. If there were concerns raised about this beforehand and it was ignored then they really don't care about the taxpayers, regardless of what political party they represent

      Peter - 2012-04-17 09:26

      Niel --- your last paragraph say it all --- and, in saying that yourself, how can you still contend this is not a DA/ANC issue? ANC forced DA to construct and NOT look at upgrades to existing stadia. Wake up kid and get your head out your ass. Don't just comment for the sake of comment.

  • Alan - 2012-04-16 12:27

    hmm - lifting the lid on more corruption?

  • Abie - 2012-04-16 12:31

    Fix it please so that WP Rugby can move there. The only available parking @ R50 a car is on the school fields and currently the city's traffic department is making money by writing out ridicilously high parking fines for parking in the streets around Newlands when the school venues are full.

  • Johan - 2012-04-16 13:04

    RDP Stadium

  • guyt1 - 2012-04-16 13:28

    My god , people are turning into a race issue cos the stadium has been termed a white elephant ... grow up man

  • sgangca - 2012-04-16 13:32

    Contractor and consultants were paid after assessor were satisfied that the construction of the stadium was according to the requirements. and by the law there supposed to be an aftercare period post hand over of ther project. All we want to now is a project manager's report, final report that should have been handed over to the municipality deeds office. I dont think there is anything that need parting with a million for investigation. Unless theris a party which is rescinding from the contractual obligation and then an independent investigation is requesting that amount of money of which is too much for my liking.

  • Niel.Kal - 2012-04-16 13:57

    Don’t moan about the stadium, we have it, and that’s that, for better of for worse. It was built at such speed that a few loose roof sheets is nothing compared to what may have gone wrong..!! Well done Cape Town, well done D.A. Now let’s build a world class formula one race track around the stadium, with an exhibition centre etc...now you talking baby...!!!!

  • Ally - 2012-04-16 14:05

    Spend that money on demolition and we'll save millions in the long run.

  • ThaBob - 2012-04-16 16:47

    Ok Bongani - you are quite correct - so lets call them black elephants then

  • Rob - 2012-04-16 18:41

    Check the 'tender' process and see who got the 'job'. Almost surely a member of a high ranking Government Officials 'extended' family. Other stadiums around the world have stood for decades without problems. How old is this one? RT

  • Justice - 2012-04-16 19:37

    Why should the city spend anything on this... the contractors who built it made tens of millions... surely there must be some sort of guarantee for their work... the building contractors should not only pay for the investigation... they should pay for the full repair of anything found to be not 100 per cent... hell a car has a guarantee of 2 or 3 years... this thing is a couple of years old...!!

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