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Qatar may lose 2022 SWC

2011-11-28 11:27

Sydney - Australia football boss Frank Lowy suggested on Monday that Qatar could yet be stripped of its right to host the 2022 FIFA World Cup following their controversial awarding of the global showpiece.

Australia was humiliated to receive only one FIFA vote and was eliminated in the first round as Qatar went on to beat the US in the fourth round in Zurich last December.

The process of awarding Qatar the World Cup over the US and Australia, along with the handing of the 2018 tournament to Russia, has been widely criticised amid allegations of corruption within world football's governing body.

Lowy, 81, formally re-elected Monday as Football Federation Australia chairman (FFA) for another four years, indicated that world governing body FIFA could succumb to pressure from around the world over their bidding process.

"I don't know whether you recall when I came back from that fateful day (after losing the bid) and I said 'this is not the last word about awarding the World Cup'," Lowy told reporters.

"Well, it wasn't the last word and the last word hasn't been heard yet.

"Don't ask me to elaborate because I don't have a crystal ball ... but the media all over the world is talking about that, the awarding particularly of '22, the state of the FIFA executive committee - all that stuff.

"It's not over. I don't exactly know where it will bounce. The only thing I know is it's not over yet."

While anger lingers over Australia's failed Aus$45 million ($43.7 million) bid, Lowy said FFA's focus in the coming years would be on strengthening the game domestically and successfully hosting the 2015 Asian Cup.

Lowy was appointed chairman at FFA's AGM in Sydney where Acting Asian Football Confederation President, Zhang Jilong, was a guest.

Zhang took charge in a caretaker capacity after Mohamed bin Hammam's ousting over bribery claims in June.

AFP

Comments
  • Luthando - 2011-11-28 11:40

    Whats with the Ozzies, trying to make themselves plan B again. They should get their bids in order and win one, and stop making themselves plan B. It is not funny anymore

      Nicholas.Spaggiari - 2011-11-28 13:38

      It actually turned out that those that got low votes were the only few that never bribed the officials. Sad isn't it... when the president of FIFA, who is listed in the list of top 100 most powerful people on the planet, cannot remove corruption from his own organisation then how do we ever hope to get rid of it.

      mbossenger - 2011-11-28 14:32

      Makes you wonder what bribes we had to pay to get 2010?

      Nicholas.Spaggiari - 2011-11-28 14:58

      ha ha ha

      Laurie - 2011-11-28 17:05

      What is an 81 year old (and just re-elected for a further 4 years) doing in such a senior and influential position? Remember that New Zealand joker who was pressurised into changing his vote which caused SA to lose the bid for the 2006 SWC. These guys - Blatter included - are all managing multi-million dollar business and should be kicked out at usual retiring ages. They are all corrupt and hanging on to enjoy abnormal benefits, but are too old to do any big job properly.

      Graham - 2011-11-28 18:36

      Qatar will host an excellent world cup. I plan to sell Qatartrips.com a couple of years before the tournament

      Thandiwe - 2011-11-28 18:59

      @Graham - great website name - how much do you want for it?! When did you buy it? I am surprised it was not snapped up before. You have inspired me, but sadly Russiatrips.com is taken - as are all good names related to countries hosting future world cups and Olympics!

      David - 2011-11-29 18:33

      Laurie, my advice to you is to google Frank Lowy. You have no idea what a successful and capable man he is.

  • Shalin - 2011-11-28 11:40

    The sour Aussies are at it again. Just like how they said that they would be on standby to host the 2010 WC in case we failed.

      lentswe.mosweunyane - 2011-11-28 14:45

      Remember Charles Damsey abstaining from voting for SA 2006

  • Steenbra - 2011-11-28 11:45

    What's up with these outoppies wanting to administer sport.. First it was that New Zealander that sold SA down the tube and this oke is 81 and standing for a 4 year term.. Ecclestone in motor racing, Blatter in soccer.. and of course Mugabe in Zim..

  • Hallo - 2011-11-28 11:46

    When Australia is any sort of authority in footballing matters it will rain sheep.

      Nicholas.Spaggiari - 2011-11-28 14:05

      Sorry to burst your bubble, but I they know how to organise spectacular shows. They really go all out, the Sydney Olympics was said to be the best. "IOC President Juan Antonio Samaranch declared at the Closing Ceremony, "I am proud and happy to proclaim that you have presented to the world the best Olympic Games ever."" I'm pretty sure the up-coming commonwealth games in Gold Coast will be awesome... Almost every event is huge, the same as every NYE, Riverfire, Aria awards etc... So I'd like to see what Australia comes out with for a SWC... :)

      Hallo - 2011-11-28 14:17

      @VanillaSky - Hosting has nothing to do with running it. Australia have as much say in footballing matter's as Spain have in rugby matters.

      Nicholas.Spaggiari - 2011-11-28 14:33

      @Hallo, I guess you're right... their soccer is starting to rise but it's nothing like the culture of Italy or spain.... but still I think any country will want the World Cup... South Africa would understand this....it's the greatest show on earth. The united states got it in 1994 and back then they had like zero soccer in them.

      Hallo - 2011-11-28 14:39

      Historically, the USA have more clout in world football than australia will ever have. They also had the money.

      Nicholas.Spaggiari - 2011-11-28 15:53

      Not really, in 1994 the US just started to develop in soccer and in terms of money Australia is a very wealthy nation. They rank 3 on the index of economic freedom and are one of few countries that are actually free economically. America is 9. http://www.heritage.org/index/ They are also ranked 2 on the human development index: That's pretty impressive for economy and human development. America is number 4 and South Africa number 123. http://www.heritage.org/index/ We also know that Aussie will be involved in less political bribes because according to the world corruption index they rank the 8th least corrupt country and South Africa ranks at 54th. http://www.transparency.org/policy_research/surveys_indices/cpi/2010/results

      Hallo - 2011-11-28 16:27

      Vanilla - Do some reasearch before commenting on footballing matters aussie fanboy. The USA has competed in a number of world cups - starting from the first one in 1930. They have an established and well-renown football league.

      Nicholas.Spaggiari - 2011-11-28 17:19

      I have hallo.... actually if you did your research you would see that the US appeared 9 times, starting from 1930 as you say. But after their first appearances and before 1994 the US national had a diminished soccer scene, which is why the year 1994 for them, was called the rebirth of US soccer. After 1934 they never showed up again until 1950 and by the end of 1984, the NASL had folded and there was no senior outdoor soccer league operating in the United States. But why does a team need to complete in a number of WC games in order to host a world cup? If that's your argument then given that Qatar has never ever played a world cup match and Aussie has, who should get it more out of the two?

      Nicholas.Spaggiari - 2011-11-28 17:31

      When you say hosting has nothing to do with running it, I think that running the world cup has a lot to do with hosting it tho.

      Dewald - 2011-11-29 00:08

      @VanillaSky. I disagree, to me Barcelona was the most amazing Olympics. The Ausssies can organise a few crackers at a tea party, but not very interesting folk are they now? Also by comparing the a wealthy nation to the biggest economy on the plane shows you don't really grasp the difference between GDP andthe might of a 300million+ economy. Do some research and make clever comments next time.

      Nicholas.Spaggiari - 2011-11-29 14:31

      No I understand the differences but you don’t see that I was not comparing size of economy, but economic freedom. Which is entire point of the index of economic freedom. You didn't seem to grasp the point I made... and that is Australia has more than enough money to host it. :) Actually Australia has a GDP of around US$1.23 trillion, growing at around 2.7% and in 2011 it was the 13th largest national economy by nominal GDP. Given now that the Aussie dollar is overtaking the US dollar.. that GDP is set to grow more. Especially that Aussie is home to some of the largest companies in the world such as BHP billiton and Rio Tinto etc. Also... Australia's sovereign credit rating is "AAA", higher than the United States of America and the country has four of the World's nine "AAA" rated banks. Australia has highest ratio of assets to population than any country in the World. The country's government debt to GDP is the lowest among OECD countries. The debt was only due to the GFC and they plan to run surpluses from 2012/13. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Australia Let's not talk economy if you want to find reasons Aussie should not host it. As far as Barcelona, that’s simply your opinion but it can't take away their title. Not an interesting bunch? Again, just your opinion because I think it was very interesting. Secondly, I'd take the presidents word for it over yours because he has been to both and you haven’t. :) I don't think you know how much I research... :P

  • Rodney - 2011-11-28 11:52

    One thing is for sure, in the unlikely event of this happening, is that they have NO chance of getting the event. 1 (ONE) vote!! Qualifies them for NOTHING.And "the media all over the world..." it's just the British media and themselves bleating on and on about this, that hardly all over the world!Lets also remind ourselves of the number of votes the Poms got...2!! one of which was there own! I wonder who the other vote was from?

      Nicholas.Spaggiari - 2011-11-28 14:06

      I'm very sure they'll get it eventually and it will knock your socks off. :) Which is a good thing. :)

  • stefan.vanderspuy - 2011-11-28 11:59

    But the Aussies don't have a football side? Not of note anyway. Or were they thinking of "footie"?

      Christopher - 2011-11-28 12:09

      The Aussie football team is currently no.22 in the world according to Fifa's world rankings, South Africa are currently no.53 so their team is of a whole lot more note than ours is and we hosted the event. The Australian football team regularly make the World Cup Finals on merit and not just because they are the hosts as was the case with us. I agree they are being a bunch of spoilt, tantrum throwing babies but please do your homework before you make stupid comments.

      Jay - 2011-11-28 15:56

      Actually South Africa appeared in as many World cups as Ausrailia (3 each), and since South Africa was re-admitted Australia have only been in two (2006 and 2010), while South Africa have appeared in three ( 1998, 2002 and 2010). Also, in the confederation they used to qualify through ( oceania ), they were the only professionalism team, and would rake up scores of 22-0 and 31-0, leading to inflated world rankings.

      Stephen - 2011-11-28 16:13

      No offence Chritopher buts its not that difficult to make it on merit when you have sides like NZ, Samoa etc. to play against to qualify. In Africa there are many top sides way above Australia and if they played in the African qualifiers they would see their a..s!

  • stefan.vanderspuy - 2011-11-28 12:01

    But I guess the same goes for Qatar and Russia.

      Derek - 2011-11-28 13:06

      Actually Russia is ranked 12th. Two places higher than world champions France and, like Christopher mentioned about Australia, Russia qualifies for all the world cups on merit. Qatar admittedly is right down there at 95. We currently have the title for the lowest-ranked host of the SWC. The good news is Qatar will take that title away from us. But seriously, stop posting stupid comments if you don't know the facts.

      Ryan - 2011-11-28 13:44

      @derek - care to explain how France is 'world champions'? they last won the tournament way back in 1998...they did not even pass the group stages at last year's tournament. Perhaps you also don't 'know the facts'?

  • Saksak Motsepe - 2011-11-28 12:11

    such slanderous predictions were also made regarding SA 2010. Those doomsayers can go burn

      mbossenger - 2011-11-28 14:28

      Yes, I'm sure the awarding of the World Cup to Qatar was legit and above board and no corruption was involved....

      Nicholas.Spaggiari - 2011-11-28 17:33

      no ways, members and officials of fifa were nailed and caught out for bribes... this is why Qatar could lose it.

      Jos - 2011-11-28 17:40

      @mbossenger, do you perhaps know exactly how the awards are made, please enlighten us.

      mbossenger - 2011-11-29 14:28

      Jos - there are plenty of books about FIFA's corruption, take your pick

  • NrGx - 2011-11-28 13:59

    just send in bryce larsen, he will sort it out for the aussies

      mbossenger - 2011-11-28 14:30

      Bryce Lawrence - your humour might be funnier if you actually reference a real person..

      NrGx - 2011-11-28 15:30

      @mbossenger - whatever the pr***ck name is, the point still stands if you are willing to climb off your high horse

      Nicholas.Spaggiari - 2011-11-28 17:34

      bryce larsen - ha ha that's just as funny

  • nikelom - 2011-11-28 14:28

    Pipedream

  • Neelofir - 2011-11-28 14:51

    We did it BIG and we did it BAD!! We kicked the world's arses and all the bad publicity (hello UK!) that they meted out to us b4 the event....Australia, UK etc go home!!...we proved all wrong....we hosted the best WC the world has ever experienced....sour, sad sack Aussies have an inferiority complex :(

      Nicholas.Spaggiari - 2011-11-28 15:44

      Australia have nothing against South Africa... I think SA has major issues with Australia... sorry, but it's true. I don't come across these sort of comments from Australians toward South Africans... I care for South Africans too much it really sucks to see SA feeling like they have to compete and compare themselves all the time. They should just chill out and enjoy life more... it's okay for other nations to do well, it really is. Just like it's okay for South Africa to do well and win a bid.

      Hallo - 2011-11-28 16:30

      Vanilla - the only one doing comparisons is you buddy.

      Nicholas.Spaggiari - 2011-11-28 16:50

      ha ha, very true... I had to do a lot of comparing actually because I'm a South African that moved to Australia. :) Family is still in SA so am always staying in the loop etc. What I was saying is that South Africa have a deep felt hatred toward Australia... and they shouldn't feel like that... why? should they have such issues... Aussie doesn't.

  • Idris - 2011-11-28 15:16

    Aussies are like hyenas running around the camp kackling and waiting for any scraps or bones that falls! They did the same prior to SA hosting 2010!!

  • Idris - 2011-11-28 15:17

    Aussies are like hyenas running around the camp kackling and waiting for food scraps and bones to fall!!

  • vusi.lalas1 - 2011-11-28 15:31

    Personal i understand all this mix feeling just leave S.Africa in peace the subject is about Aussies plan B not us.We are not that bad like most of you will think together we can make our country a better place to be,Suid Afrika is vir ons almal.Just ship out look Table Mountain we make history everyday two weeks ago.Today Durban is making another history event we are not that bad mense.There only thing that is bad corruption it is just undermining our Democracy that we all fight for Joe Slovo,Trevor Manuel,Bayers Naude the list is endless

      Nicholas.Spaggiari - 2011-11-28 16:03

      I'm very excited that the meeting is held in durban for climate change! I have to say that South Africa have taken the leading step here for the African continent.

  • Stephen - 2011-11-28 16:10

    Believe me old boy its over! Qatar will be the host. With 90% of world soccer played in Europe and with Qatar a stone's throw away do you really think Australia, at the @ss end of nowhere, is going to get the WC. You lost the vote - you got one for goodness sake! And remember that other old boy from NZ who cost SA the Olympics - how does it feel now.

      Nicholas.Spaggiari - 2011-11-28 16:22

      Stephen, I fully agree.... having it in Australia means the rest of the world watching the games at 4am in the morning... that's probably the biggest reason why they won't get it. In the middle of nowhere.

      Nicholas.Spaggiari - 2011-11-28 16:22

      But, I'm sure they'll get it one day.

  • Jay - 2011-11-28 16:15

    Did anybody notice the fact that the USA was the runner up to Qatar in the vote, not Australia? Surly they have a better shot at getting 2022 than Australia if it is taken away from Qatar.

  • Mpho - 2011-11-28 17:46

    Australians are a nasty jealous lot! Aaaaargh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Sthe - 2011-11-29 05:30

    Theres no problem with Qatar, these Australians are sick, Do u remember how these Europeans critised South Africa after we won the 2011 bid?

      Sthe - 2011-11-29 05:31

      ...2010 Bid i mean

      Nicholas.Spaggiari - 2011-11-29 14:12

      I hope you know that if you say Aussies are sick they take that as a compliment... they really are sick. lol

      Heiku - 2011-11-29 17:23

      VanillaSky: Stop being so nice. It's embarrassing damnit.

      Nicholas.Spaggiari - 2011-11-29 17:54

      Heiku i feel like i love you already

  • nixliguori - 2011-11-29 06:03

    @Graham. Have you ever been to Qatar?? There is one little town called Doha and from a tourists perspective there is absolutely nothing to do! You would be better trying to get your customers to spend the week in Dubai and fly in to Doha for the football games.... thats if they can actually get visas to enter Qatar but thats another mess all on its own!

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