France introduce race quotas

2011-04-28 21:17

Paris - French football chiefs have approved proposals to limit the number of black and Arab players coming through their national training programmes to 30 percent, according to a report.

The influential Mediapart website claimed on Thursday top management at the French Football Federation (FFF), including France manager Laurent Blanc, secretly discussed and approved "unofficial discriminatory quotas".

"For the top brass in French football, the issue is settled: there are too many blacks, too many Arabs and not enough white players in French football," the website claimed.

"Some top officials at the French football federation's National Development Programme (DTN), including national team coach Laurent Blanc, secretly approved at the start of 2011 the principle of unofficial discriminatory quotas in training centres and schools around the country."

Mediapart added that following a meeting in January, where those involved were told to keep the proposals secret, directives to apply the measures were sent to the numerous training centres around the country.

"According to internal sources at the FFF, who have been shocked by the proposals, instructions were sent to the different managers of training schools, notably the National French Institute at Clairefontaine," added the report.

"The figure of 30 percent was even evoked by the technical director during a DTN meeting on January 18, 2011."

However the French team's chief press officier Philippe Tournon said Blanc categorically denied the allegations made in the report.

"Laurent Blanc rejects these accusations which run contrary to his whole philosophy," Tournon told AFP.

"Laurent Blanc is outraged that he has been accused in this way, since he rejects any kind of discrimination. He would never agree to such measures."

The report claims that in FFF meetings the problematic issue of players with double nationalities was also discussed.

Tournon added: "One of the problems evoked by Laurent Blanc is the double nationality issue, namely when players who benefit from a three-year stint in a French national training centre then go abroad and play for other teams.

"But to reduce that to an article headlined 'There are too many blacks and Arabs' is simply unbelievable. And it's not going to sit well with Laurent Blanc."

FFF chief Fernand Duchaussoy told AFP: "I've never heard of these proposals and to be honest it would astound me if I did.

"It wouldn't be right, and in any case I wouldn't allow it to happen."

Duchaussoy added: "It's a reality. We have a lot of young players who have double nationality, and some of them go on to choose another country than France when it comes to the national side.

"That is their choice, and we have to accept it. But these kinds of problems haven't been discussed at federal meetings."


  • Mikey777 - 2011-04-28 23:07

    Ha ha these were the same people who lectured South Africa about apartheid, what are you doing now, is this not discrimination?? If you applied the race quotas years ago, you probably would not have discovered Zinedane Zidane, one of the best players ever to play for France and one of the worlds best at the time.

      Psalm - 2011-04-29 09:28

      @ Mikey777 Undoutedly, there will be some racists who will rejoice. However, I do not think that this about kicking Blacks and Arabs out of teams. I also do not think that such a quota is cut in stone and would not be exceeded to field excellent and talented Black and Arab players. France fielded the most non-white European team at the 2010 World Cup. This was not an issue in the public at large, until the largely non-white team REVOLTED against the coach and got knocked out of the first round. Was the team talented? Yes. Did the team shown French pride and discipline as required? NO! That was the issue. What good is immigrant talent in a French soccer kit, if it is not accompanied by French cultural pride, discipline and bearing? I believe that if Les Blues had performed well and displayed French pride, only some right-wingers would be whining. The French at large would have been proud of their largely non-white Les Blues.

      Psalm - 2011-04-29 09:33

      @ roboman1 I hope you're being sarcastic...

      didierkala - 2011-04-29 09:44

      @Palm: French discipline? What the hell are you talking about?

      Psalm - 2011-04-29 09:49

      @ didierkala If you do not believe that the French require a disciplined Les Blues, that's your take. However, I doubt that it finds support in reality.

      Howzitekse - 2011-04-29 12:49

      Psalm, the French coach was a poor excuse for a human being. Any team with substance would have revolted against him.

      Psalm - 2011-04-29 13:02

      @ Howzitekse The coach may have been Lucifer for all I care. Patriotism and discipline dictate that when the team is called to practice, it must turn up. Not every team gets Santa Claus as a coach- but when you put on your team kit you better realise that you're no longer representing your preferences, but rather the pride of the nation you claim to represent. Suck it up. If Smith and the boys decided to sulk during the ICC World Cup because of change room politics and then caused us shame, I'd be furious. Suck it up. We don't change coaches during the tournament. Your preferences come second to national pride. Suck it up. If the players give it their best and still lose because of Lucifer the coach - the nation must rally behind the players (the heroes who put the nation before personal politics) and deal with the coach. But on that field, those players better suck it up and give 100%.

      CITIZEN - 2011-04-29 17:10

      touchy subject here think carefully when commenting what im sugessting pick the best players for national squads if it is 11 black players so be it if it is 11 arab players so be it if it is 11 white players so be it sport teams should not be about colour but the best players

      hardloop - 2011-04-29 18:17

      @Psalm. It's one thing to be angry with your team, but an entirely different thing to be angry with them because of their race or culture. Your comments are NOT sufficient justification for the alleged practices of the FFF. If they were all white and had done the same thing do you think the FFF would have started cutting white people out of the training programs? absolutely not. Your comments and this entire issue smack of racism.

      Dan - 2011-04-30 11:37

      @ Psalm. I think you might be a bit confused. When last were you in France? It is lately very difficult to seperate race in their communities. So many people are something in-between. They are whitish, creamish, blackish, etc. Don't get me wrong, I am NOT A RACISTS in any way. I don't however believe in cross race marriages, simply because you end up with a society full of kids/people that actually don't fit in anywhere. You could end up with a white married couple down the line getting a pitch black baby due to parent's, grandparent's, etc. cross racial "affairs". Just imagine your wife maybe carrying a chinese gene, you and your wife are black or white and in delivery this little yellow narrow eyed baby pops out. Would love to read your liberal comments then. Before you crap in your pants, it already happend. Go and search on google for black coule with while baby or white coupe with black baby. What is that child? Caucasion or black?

      Howzitekse - 2011-04-30 17:57

      Dan, if you are not racist, it's just a child.

  • Bill - 2011-04-29 00:08

    Wow....Froggies becoming racist!

  • Joe_Massahar - 2011-04-29 02:42

    This is like SA Rugby, but in reverse. I wonder if Zuma is taking notes!

      croix - 2011-04-29 07:02

      He would, if only he had some proper schooling............

      Howzitekse - 2011-04-29 12:51

      Joe, the SA squad is full of white players who are way below par, so it is not in reverse.

  • Dundermoose - 2011-04-29 02:43

    This is just as wrong as quotas in South African rugby!!! Let the cream rise to the top - why block the best tallent?

  • AJ - 2011-04-29 06:11

    I dont agree, that is hardly the players fault. Best person for the position - end of story.

  • Tyro2 - 2011-04-29 07:14

    An attempt at closing the stable door after the horse has bolted?

  • Eish! - 2011-04-29 07:39

    Excellent. If SA must be represented in work and sort by the majority COLOUR, then the same must surely apply in Europe! Go Europe - I'm coming now!

  • Gemini101 - 2011-04-29 08:05

    Good for France. I hope other countries start to look after their own populations first and foremost. No racism just keeping France french!

      Zondo - 2011-04-29 08:35

      Then why is it so wrong for the PAC, Azapo and Mugabe keeping Africa African???

      pietpompies2 - 2011-04-29 16:05

      Keeping France French? You forgot they were colonialist with little "skelmpie" colonialists running around being eligible to play for mother France? France ain't white no more, serves them right!

      Gemini101 - 2011-04-29 17:01

      Zondo I am all for Africa keeping Africa African but, they can do it without world aid handouts which will be begged for soon enough.

  • Mzansisoka - 2011-04-29 08:42

    Very infuriating and disturbibg read... France wouldn't be without black and Arab players who have been best of the best for them. Go ahead, chase black people and Arabs out of your football and we'll see how far and how good you guys really are. In total sence they are pathetic without Arab and Black players!!! Zinedine Zidane wasn't really "French", Patrick Viera wasn't really "French", And The Thierry Henrys and Lass Diarras don't look white to me. So, adding such quotas to your football is just suicide to the sport in your country itself!!!

      Rob - 2011-04-29 11:46

      Same as keeping whites out of the rugby team = suicide. Bottom line is best players must play not matter what colour.

      gekko - 2011-04-29 12:37

      So why must that have a certain amount of black people in the SA rugby and cricket teams????????????

      StaalBurgher - 2011-04-29 13:23

      Mzan, care to tell that to our racist, quota-toting ANC overlords? Seems no quotas is only good for some.

  • Psalm - 2011-04-29 09:12

    No, this article is rather scant on the facts and concerns. The French want Les Blues to reflect the French - not North Africans or Arabs. Nothing wrong with that. I also doubt that French coaches are going to refuse to include an excellent African or Arab player merely because his inclusion would exceed the quota - they won't. They value talent and winning too much. But Les Blues must look like a team from France, not Tunisia or Ivory Coast. Furthermore, concern was raised during the 2010 World Cup regarding the lack of discipline displayed by the very non-white French team. Has the media forgotten? I will remind Sport24 of the disrespect shown by SOME of the players to the coach, which behaviour was deemed disgraceful and unpatriotic by the French public. A national enquiry had to be held as Sarkozy, French MPs and the public at large were furious - that's patriotism and national pride. Imagine how South Africans would react if the Proteas, filled with Arab immigrants, revolted against the coach and got kicked out of the first round of the ICC World Cup. We would also furious. France has every right to maintain its French face, culture, discipline and pride. SA has every right to maintain its African face, culture, discipline and pride.

      HagenDan - 2011-04-29 09:36

      Nicolas Anelka an "Arab immigrant"? He was born in Versailles. French. If the French, like the British, want to colonise large parts of the world and share their culture with the locals they can hardly be surprised if they have immigrants centuries down the line.

      Psalm - 2011-04-29 09:43

      @ HagenDan Were do I call Anelka an "Arab immigrant"? Your comment on colonialism is largely irrelevant here. Being immigrant is one thing. Being disrespectful of your host country is another. Sharing your culture with locals is one thing, trying to impose your culture on your host country is another. Furthermore, I am curious as to why this has anything to do with Les Blues and French soccer in general...

      Psalm - 2011-04-29 10:20

      @ Jose Why don't you save your vitriol for another day. You accuse me of assuming that being Black automatically means one is an immigrant. Yet you ignorantly and idiotically assume that I am White. You're the idiot here. I am BLACK. I have spent some time in France and I speak some French. I also refuse to be a hypocrite. I support BBBEE and AA. I live in a country that applies racial quotas and I have no issue with them. So, why would I bash the French on theirs? I grasp SA realities requiring BBBEE and AA. I also grasp French concerns. So, please go play your race card elsewhere. You're truly pathetic.

      Zee - 2011-04-29 11:17

      @Psalm - calm down, no need to get so defensive. I took the same out of your post as Jose did - perhaps you are not wording yourself correctly. Also, if I recall correctly, Domeneceh, the "very white" French coach, was the problem all along, and not the players. Also, there are numerous French players of colour, who are not immigrants. So I'm struggling to understand what exactly the point of your post is?

      Psalm - 2011-04-29 11:38

      @ Jose "The crap you wrote is just crap (about wanting to keep a clean locker room)" Again, you retard, please show me where I wrote anything about wanting to keep a clean locker room? You're a pathetic retard. Also, why are you so obsessed in your claim about how dark some Black players are? Why do I care about Zidane? What has this quota issue got to do with Zidane? He is retired. I ask again: where do a talk about keeping the locker room clean? Kindly provide evidence. Take your filthy, racial insinuations back to with you, slithering back into the hole from whence you come. BTW, I am not a dude, or are you silly enough to think that only dudes watch soccer?

      Psalm - 2011-04-29 12:05

      @ Jose Again, Jose, rather refrain from addressing me. I do not accept your clearly insincere "apology". I know full well what I am - a Black Female and I am no coward as you arrogantly imply. Furthermore, I have called News24 to order in my previous comments regarding some of their articles. I am not about to apologise for disagreeing with Sport24 either.

      gekko - 2011-04-29 12:44

      ag please, don't be a child!!!!!!!!

      CITIZEN - 2011-04-29 17:16

      the only problem here in south africa is there is no discipline all what our players want is money i said it before and i will say it again to play for your country should be reward enough

  • flowing river - 2011-04-29 11:41

    Bloody French racist bastards........!

      StaalBurgher - 2011-04-29 13:25

      So are the blacks in South Africa also racist then? They also have quotas. Hope you choke on your double standards.

      CITIZEN - 2011-04-29 17:23

      Jose you missing the point here it should be player on merit there is alot of so called quota players who were there on merit ntini;mtwarira;paulse;williams;habana;duminy;prince;aplon it must not be of colour but of the best

      El Cid - 2011-05-03 15:36

      Tsk Tsk...have you learned anything? They are merely doing what they are entitled to do. They are a White nation. So stick it!!!

  • rimmoah - 2011-04-29 12:45

    if you look at some french football teams like marseille they are composed mostly of black players.undoubtably chosen on it would seem strange their are now calls for quotas,especially since some of France's greatest players have been blacks and arabs.if only we could stop quibbling about quota's in this country and only select on merit,in sport and in business.

  • Paul - 2011-04-29 13:54

    Have you noticed that Sir Alex Ferguson, probably the most astute manager/coach of our time, generally steers clear of players of the black African persuasion? Apart from Patrice Evra (great player), Andy Cole was the last to really feature at United. And have you noticed that he has the best record of all the very best teams of late. Ever wondered why? No, this is not a racist-inspired question at all. I think I know the correct answer; just wondered if anyone else does...

      hardloop - 2011-04-29 18:38

      Holy cow, you flaming racist. Mate, you are well off the mark and I can assure you that you do not know the answer to your obviously racist question. Most squads in the prem only have one or two black players, Utd have Evra and Wes Brown, pretty std. And one of their best players was Dwight Yorke a fistful of years ago. And quite frankly there are not that many black players in the entire premiere league (20 that i can think of). Idiot.

      Greg - 2011-04-29 19:38

      Ferdinand, wes brown, Giggs, Anderson, Nani, Smalling, Fabio, Valencia, Wellbeck, Rafael are all black and part of the current squad. Do you know your football Paul? Add Paul Ince, Dwight Yorke, Louis Saha, Tim Howard, remi Moses come to mind from the past Are you for real?

  • jock van wyk - 2011-04-29 21:06

    The Froggies should visit the good brothers in south africa as they are good at quotas.

  • Thami Fraser - 2011-04-29 21:08

    We should do the same in South African Football. White schools should be "forced" (not a nice word) to play soccer so that more players can be available for the national team. Soccer has never discriminated against players on the base of colour. Ask Neil Tovey, Mark Batchelor, Mark Fish, Roger De Sa, Wayne Sandilands, Hennie Joubert, Jingles Parreira, Shane Macgregor, and the multitude of players who played non-racial soccer way back, when other sports codes in South Africa were applying the apartheid government's policy of seperate development and racially divided sports.

      Zion - 2011-04-30 20:07

      Try counting beyond three.

  • Dan - 2011-04-30 11:28

    How ironic!!!!! In Europe they need quotas to keep blacks out of sport. In South Africa, we use quotas to make all sport teams as black as possible. World is a really funny place these days. Who's right and who's wrong? Let's ask Malema for a really intellectual and "visionary" answer to this one. Classic and actually very funny.

  • Zion - 2011-04-30 20:01

    A great poet once wrote:" Death, where art thy victory and thy sting? Your empty voices in ears shall ring." Yes, some clown probably a racist, had my comment erased. Typical South African who cannot handle the truth or is too immature to accept others, too, have an opinion. Except there is a sting in the tail because all my comments are transfered to facebook. If I was operating at that level I could query at least 85% of the racism in these comments overall. Then I will be breaching my own standards which I claim are better than 85% of the commentators. Racism is practiced by black and white to an equal extent in this country, like it or not. Facebook receives international coverage and that is one of the reasons I use the Fora.

  • El Cid - 2011-05-03 15:33

    France is a White country, hence it's players should be mostly White. They realised that their terrible performance at the World Cup last year was as a result of team tainting. The French have also realised that AA does not ever work. Viva La France!!!

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