SARU blunder to cost Steyn?

2010-08-12 13:39

Comment: Jan de Koning of reveals:

Cape Town - An administrative blunder by the South African Rugby Union, rather than injury, might turn out to be the biggest stumbling block in the way of Frans Steyn's return to the Springbok team.

According to Rugby365, SARU have failed to file, on time, the clearance request required by the FFR (Fédération Française de Rugby) for the release of players to their national unions for Test duty.

And to add insult to injury, Steyn's French club, Racing Metro, have confirmed that Steyn has, in fact, suffered a quad muscle injury that will sideline him from training until next Wednesday.

In a statement issued on Thursday, Racing confirmed that Steyn would not feature for the 'The Sky and Whites' in their Top 14 opener against Brive at Stade Amédée-Domenech on Friday.

"Francois Steyn, Andrea Masi, Karim Ghezal and Scott Zimmerman are all still recovering from their injuries," read the club's statement. "After medical examinations it was decided that none of them are able to play (this week) and they were not named in the squad chosen by (head coach) Pierre Berbizier."

Steyn suffered a quad injury, and not an ankle injury as previously reported in the media, in a pre-season friendly last Friday.

He is allowed to start training next Wednesday only and would then, obviously, be required to pass a fitness test if the Boks still want him to feature against the All Blacks in Soweto next Saturday.

However, an even bigger problem for Steyn, and the Boks, could turn out to be the administrative bungle by SARU officials, who failed to submit the clearance request on time.

An FFR source confirmed that the clearance request must be submitted 14 days in advance, but SARU filed the documentation this week only.

Should the FFR play hardball and insist on the 14-day clearance - rather than release Steyn on short notice - he will be released only for the two Tri-Nations Tests against the Wallabies - in Pretoria on August 28 and Bloemfontein a week later.

This development follows a statement issued from the Bok camp on Wednesday, which said they were still awaiting clarity on the extent of Steyn's injury.

Steyn, who was included in the Springbok training group of 29 announced last Sunday, underwent a scan in Paris this week.

The Springbok training squad assembled in Johannesburg on Tuesday, to begin preparations for the home leg of the Tri-Nations - the Boks, of course, having suffered three big losses in New Zealand and Australia last month.

A final squad of 24 - which will then be trimmed to 22 to face the All Blacks - is expected to be confirmed at the conclusion of the camp on Friday.


  • DEE - 2010-08-12 13:49

    Please can Francois be sent for a haircut before he starts doing fitness tests. He looks ridiculous with those locks.

  • Megabull - 2010-08-12 13:52

    I bet this was the clowns fault too

  • Howler - 2010-08-12 13:52

    Yet another example of bureaucratic bungling at SARU. Hoskins should stop swanning around in business class lounges every day and actually do some work.

  • rugby forever - 2010-08-12 14:02

    please look here and see what new zealand has to say about PDV the sprinbok coach hahahahahahaha so true sint it

  • Donovan - 2010-08-12 14:03

    Div don't select Frans Steyn to play for South Africa ever again. He does not want to play for his country.

  • Pete - 2010-08-12 14:23

    SARU taking over from ASA? Professional sport, loss of remuneration = cause to sue? why not? why does normal business practices apply to everything around the game, i.e. sponsorships, stadium names, broadcast deals, etc., yet when it comes to players and their rights the same principles suddenly don't apply anymore? Rugby's current mantra = players be professional on (and off) the field at all times, if you don't you'll be carded, sighted, sanctioned; but administrators, referees, etc. these rules don't apply to you and your dealings with and handling of players. So players can't be human, but administrators (incl. referees) can hide behind being humand and making mistakes? Too many do-gooders involved with rugby (changing rules and turning it into a farce; it's a contact sport, if you don't like it, go take a soccer dive) and too many around the game just looking after their personal interests and not the game. You're killing it for ordinary folk (who by stadium tickets at ridiculous prices and pay for satellite TV) who love the game, want a fair contest and see good competitive rugby played at all levels!

  • Lionel - 2010-08-12 14:26

    What did you expect. You have the the clown circus SARU and the other clown Pieter de Villiers, all competing for the position of top clown. No matter what, the AB's will still win on the 21st as Jakes Whites magic touch has worn off. Oh and don't come with your pathetic comments that look who has won the RWC twice or who is current the world champions as they surely do not play like champions. It only happens every 4 years and who rules world rugby the majority of the time. Just look at the record books.

  • bulawayo-based-bok - 2010-08-12 14:27

    it is quite embarrassing that we are relying on Steyn to change things around for us...... yes he is a great talent but we should have the depth to cover for him whenever he is unavailable!! Kirchner, Jantjes and Viljoen or Daniller aren't good enough for internationals, Aplon and Lambie are the only two i can think of who will excel under the new rules!

  • Vaste 6 - 2010-08-12 14:29

    I have only 2 words for SARU's actions: ON PURPOSE !! @rrsholes !!! You want to run SA rugby but you cannot even submit a clearance request on time. You should be fired...... period. You are pathetic.

  • Paul - 2010-08-12 14:31

    He is the only x-factor player we have. A must.

  • rid - 2010-08-12 14:32

    ...get rid of the AA quota coach... ....thats where all the problems started...

  • Big Ant - 2010-08-12 14:33

    DEE stop being an idiot, he is a rugby player not a fashion model, therefor get paid to play rugby not look pretty.

  • tommy - 2010-08-12 14:34

    From both sides of the spectrum - what a bitter lot you are! As John Allan says, "between you, not too much rugby knowledge!!!!"

  • Haha said the clown - 2010-08-12 14:46

    Bungling clowns!!! See them losing every test whilst laughing all the way to the bank. Poor Poor Springbok.

  • Nikita - 2010-08-12 14:52

    Please leave Francois over there. He doesn't need the other 14 players in the team. He thinks he can do it on his own. Was very happy when he left SA.

  • david - 2010-08-12 15:11

    Hi guys, Isn't time that the selection conyenyers stop messing around with the old guard of has beens ans started selecting some of the young exciting players .i.e Willem de Waal , Daniel Keegan , Patrick Lambie , etc. etc. I know that it is easy to be a couch selector but sometimes I think tese guys have their eyes up their A.... Look at all the new and young talent in the OZ side -- PdV is living on the Jake White legacy !!!!

  • Major - 2010-08-12 15:13

    @Donovan - Lets blame the player for administrative blunders and injuries... before making rash stupid statements maybe you should look a little deeper? Or are you just one of those that blindly believe he can tell his employer to f@ck themslves, and just get away with it? Rules are rules mate, and if the papers weren't lodged, he has a contract to adhere to!!

  • hein Cent - 2010-08-12 15:14

    Maybe its a blessing . The problem with the boks were never the full back. We never got the ball . Our forwards were shoddy . Pierre Spies watched the games . Our defenders were to wide spreaded over the field.Not to mention Bakkies Bothas game. and so Jaque fourie Jean de Villiers and Brain Habana. ,,All excellent players that let us down,,,,

  • George - 2010-08-12 15:24

    Can DIV and his management team do anything right?

  • J.White - 2010-08-12 15:26

    To all SA non BOK believers, - and this includes you "MR. rugby forever", stop reading what they say in NZ, they are after all our biggest rivals,pay attention to what goes on behind the scenes,we are not the best rugby nation in the world for nothing. we are a superior nation and will always be. look at the big picture then take your blinkers off and only then, put your dummy back in your mouth!

  • Conrad Brits - 2010-08-12 15:31

    @ Donovan - how would you know? When did you last speak to Frans Steyn? @ DEE, it is NOT about the looks of the player but the talent, and that young Frans Steyn has heaps of!

  • john - 2010-08-12 15:35

    SARU - What a bunch of incompetent fat cats !!!!!

  • PETER - 2010-08-12 15:35

    @David....Who the hell is Daniel Keegan. He must be Villiers De Pieter's brother.

  • Anti - Frans - 2010-08-12 15:35

    Please leave him out of the team ... Please leave him out of the team ... Please leave him out of the team ... He thinks he's a freaking hot shot !! I would 100% rather want to see Patrick Lambie in there ?

  • Proudly Mzansi - 2010-08-12 15:41

    Until we hear the words coming out of Steyns mouth ,saying he doesn't wanna play for his country,I suggest we stop being bitter to him for no apparent reason..whether some of us are that ugly faced such that we think Steyn looks like a model ,its not his problem.Steyn has been one of our shining stars in the field of play so its only fair we give him some credit for that..Let the administrators sort out their own issues.If we can't get Steyn for the tri-nations whose fault is it.SARU said they won't consider overseas based players now all of a sudden they need them ,please whose really fooling who..If Steyn in the best full back we have ,then we need to use him.

  • Snakes - 2010-08-12 15:54

    Rules is rules and if you snooze you loose....... @David I don't know if there is a second Willem de Waal, but at 32 he is old guard to...... Get young guys in management might be a better solution...

  • Jacques Otto - 2010-08-12 15:58

    This site is full of pathetic comments. Lambie is not reay yet nor has he proven him self at international level. How can you people make statments like including Lambie. He will be great one day but it is to early for him. Also Steyns inclusion is not based that he wil sve the team it is mearly playing the best player we have. He should have never left in the first instance. Donavan i think your statement is out of line. Of coarse he wants to play for SA. When did he ever say he did not want to play for the Bokke. He was forced out because of the quota system you wanker. How many points has Zane scored vs Francois. How many line breaks between the two of them and how many tactical kicks winning field position between the two of them. All of you stating we dont need Francois and Zane is good enough ask for help as you clearly dont know this game PDV is the coach and he need to take responsibility for the incorrect tactical approach at rucks. Our major hurdle is at rucks as this is causing pressure on line giving the backs no space. Yes we were screwed by some reffing but you need to adapt. Also PDV is known to play world class players in incorrect positions.

  • CECNOL - 2010-08-12 16:02

    @david, give it a break please - its Keegan Daniel and Willem de Waal is on his way to 32years.

  • Rebecca - 2010-08-12 16:03

    Whatever sells newspapers... relax people, the sun will come out tomorrow.

  • macho - 2010-08-12 16:11

    Sorry but SARU is useless is doing things right, Francoic has alot of talent and he would be a great assest to the team, especially to get him ready for the world cup next year!

  • Deonic - 2010-08-12 16:13

    I don't fit in with 70% of the people commenting here, and on that basis, I withdraw from the Sport24 rugby comments. Note that I don't say anybody is wrong or right, it is just that the comments are not representative of the sentiment amongst the general public. Furthermore, some comments are posted by people who don't bother to actually read the articles that they are commenting on, or they simply don't understand the article for some reason or another. A lot of comments are based on rasist attitudes. Provincialism, I can understand, but there is a major difference between supporting your team, and hating another team, something of which there is a lot of, around here. A real rugby supporter can certainly see "the other side" as well, but I don't see a lot of that around. That leads to the comments pages being more of a "rant and rave" site, than an actual discussion page. These are the reasons for me deciding that I don't fit in anymore, so please guys and girls, carry on with what you are doing, but I will be moving over to some Blogs and Aussie and NZ discussion pages where the tone of the discussions are not so vitriolic, the spelling is better, and the average age of participants appear to be older, or at least more mature.

  • herman - 2010-08-12 17:49

    @Deonic, well said mate! Please do not disappear from this site. Maybe media 24 will do something about all this the racial, dump schoolboy comments. Because we know better, we must try to educate - although I do not know whether this is possible

  • Nick - 2010-08-12 17:52

    The circus act keeps on getting better and better

  • Observer - 2010-08-12 18:08

    I agree with some of the more mature comments like Deonic about the typical sports article blogger. They are by and large the most immature bunch I’ve ever had the misfortune of reading. They add nothing to the conversation and their only pleasure seems to be to express outrage at some nonissue and too often they are racially motivated. How very pathetic.

  • Ruck & Maul - 2010-08-12 18:48

    Observer, if you want to witness an immature bunch, read the comments on a motoring article.

  • Robin - 2010-08-13 09:26

    Nice one SARU! That's a serious stuff up... typical. Steyn should have been playing in this year's TriNations from the first test. And now, after SA's pathetic performances to date, for the first time in a very long while, many people including myself, actually don't care what they do any more.

  • Nick - 2010-08-13 10:02

    @Deonic - the correct spelling is racist( so much for better spelling on other sites) - South African rugby has a long and proud history at International level - even you must admit that over the past 10 months the Springboks have been dismal- this includes losses to club sides in the UK - if this was a CEO of a corporate company , he would have been long dismissed, based on these results - where does one draw the line - before some sort of remedial action is called for.

  • Angus - 2010-08-13 10:26

    The administrative wing of SARU is the responsibility of the CEO which is white.. oooo I am so glad this one can not be pinned on BBEEE

  • Giddo - 2010-08-13 12:11

    Amazing how PdV tries to blame Steyn for not being able to play. Dear Fransie Steyn if you really want to join a Circus try irc de soleil..

  • James - 2010-08-13 12:18

    Div is blaming Frans steyn, problem is that Div is currently blaming everyone for the dismal performance. Today he blames Frans Stey for his lack of commitment to SA, he is the one that rejected him, he blames the WP for not allowing him to use Nienaber but he has already got assistants, he also blames WP for playing a different style of play to that of the Bulls and Sharks ant this is the reason his team is struggeling. he blames the refs because the team could not play the new rules and so on and so on. Pdv get a grip and do yur job or step asside so Alisdair Coetzee can step in. he is someone who remain focussed on the task at hand accepts responsibility for his and his teams results. he is well spoken and dont talk out of turn. he secured the best defence man in the game and has a great team arround him. Yes the bulls have a great setup with great players and have the cups to show for it, but lets accept that we are still in transistion and that Alisdair Coetzee is the best on offer and he is one of the best available.

  • DeonL - 2010-08-13 12:27

    Frans must go where his bosses permit him, currently his bosses are the Frenchies and If Saru makes a mistake he can not be held responsible. We need his big boot and presence, he has won more than 1 game for SA.

  • Mark - 2010-08-13 13:31

    Typical of an AA run unit like SARU, the State departments etc.

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