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Roux: No Bok secret camp

2011-07-28 07:29

Wellington - South African Rugby Union chief executive Jurie Roux says 21 Springboks said to be injured and unable to play in Tri-Nations matches in Australia and New Zealand are not at a secret training camp as South African media have reported.

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Roux made an angry rebuttal on Thursday of South African media reports that the reportedly injured players, ruled out of matches against Australia last weekend and New Zealand on Saturday, are training at Rustenburg under Springboks technical director Rassie Erasmus.

Springboks coach Peter de Villiers was also confronted with the accusation that South Africa may be resting top players ahead of the World Cup, when his team arrived in Wellington from Sydney on Wednesday. De Villiers dismissed the reports as "mischief."

"We know that the long Super 15 season is the cause of this and we just have to abide by that," De Villiers said. "They're not training. It (the report) doesn't surprise me because there's always mischief everywhere."

Roux was more impassioned, insisting that the injured players - who may return to the Springboks squad for the home leg of the Tri-Nations tournament — had gathered to receive treatment.

"I'm not denying that they're at Rustenburg. I'm denying the fact that there's a secret training camp," he said. "I've got my players in a single high performance entity being rehabilitated - that's it.

"It is very simple, it is a unique thing to me that people are worried about this at all.

"I run a multimillion rand corporation where my biggest asset are my players. They're injured, I need to do something to get them ready for the World Cup."

No criticism has been raised in Australia or New Zealand about the Springboks decision to leave behind 21 top-line players. The Wallabies and All Blacks have also rested some players in the opening tests of their World Cup season.

Roux appeared to find the allegations against the Springboks personally offensive.

"What do you do with an injured player?" he said. "You don't send them off to Bali or Mauritius to have a holiday. You put him into your high performance center, you put him with the best doctor you can find ... and you put him on a program to rehabilitate him to get back to the World Cup. What more would you expect?

"I don't understand the conspiracy, I don't understand the confusion. This is a simple thing, if I don't put him on a medical program, don't have him rehabilitated for the World Cup I need to come to New Zealand for a job, which is the last thing I want to do."


AP

Comments
  • Bulldozer - 2011-07-28 07:30

    Rubbish!

      René Müller - 2011-07-28 08:03

      I really don't understand this fuzz about the whereabouts of the Bokke!

      evereadydude - 2011-07-28 08:04

      Jurie wys bietjie Ballas en sê vir die Aussies en Kiwi'S HULLE moet f off

      Real Deal - 2011-07-28 08:21

      It wouldnt be a secret now would it!

      Gorilla - 2011-07-28 08:42

      I can't believe the fuss about all this!! So what if these boks are training?? Why should they do it in secret?? If they are carrying injuries it's fair that they should have some sort of training, I mean it's not like "injured" means they've got broken legs. Why create negativity where there is none. If they are nursing niggles and are unfit to take the full vigorous contact that these tests will require, then let them train nad take light duty in Rustenburg.

      Mike@CapeT - 2011-07-28 08:47

      I agree with you Rene! This whole issue is bulls*#t and is being blown out of proportion. Happy now News24?

      BLOODY AGENT - 2011-07-28 09:36

      Paultjie maar jy is sterk so vroeg in die dag,Tarzan pap of tik?

      Met Uysh! - 2011-07-28 10:48

      Nz not making a fuss? Read what JJ wrote about the hostile reception the Boks got then say again that NZ is not complaining!

      Kok - 2011-07-28 10:49

      Point is: Why are they practising if they are fit enough and suppose to be in NZ? Sanzar agreement = Field strongest available team. I hope the "injured" players are ready for PE test. Or will they still be afraid of the kiwi's?

      Bulldozer - 2011-07-28 11:14

      Kom Sakkie, ek wag. 2 Ure later en ek het nog niks van jou gehoor nie.

      Paddy - 2011-07-28 11:47

      Maybe this Roux character should go for anger management seeing that he works with the media. He clearly lost his temper. Sign of a bad leader.

      Paddy - 2011-07-28 11:49

      @RENE it’s not a fuss it’s because people don’t like it when idiots try to sell them lies and expect them to believe the sh$t!

      Black Beauty - 2011-07-28 12:19

      Bring back the death penalty, hang em, hang em I SAY!!!!

      jk - 2011-07-28 12:20

      dozer, kan ek daai klong se plek vat- 2pm agter midas se hoofkantoor. sal jy kan afkry by die werk?

      Bulldozer - 2011-07-28 12:25

      Jk, nou waar is Midas se hoofkantoor?

      jk - 2011-07-28 12:41

      google dit mater, en moenie laat wees nie... jy beter uitkyk vir daai swart amarok...

      Bulldozer - 2011-07-28 12:54

      Ek sien jy weet ook nie waar dit is nie. Werk is nie n probleem nie, maar dis omtrent 14 ure se ry vir my.

      jk - 2011-07-28 13:29

      dozer-ek se jou wat- ek sit jou op die eerste google vlug saam met die bulle, dan vat ju sommer die interkaap terug

      Bulldozer - 2011-07-28 13:40

      Ha ha. Stuur vir my n e-mail, ek wil gesels, ernstig.

      Dwerg - 2011-07-28 14:02

      Bulldozer, jy praat alewig strond. Maar ek stem saam met jou, daar was van die heel begin af onsekerheid oor al die beserings. Die enigste rede hoekom die Bokke met meer as 10 Caps daar in Aus en NZ is, is omdat dit die ouens is wat game time nodig het.

      Chillipop - 2011-07-28 14:20

      Shew...there's alot of Testosterone on this article...JK - I wouldnt venture out into the cold to meet Bulldozer...not really worth it...

      Bulldozer - 2011-07-28 14:32

      Chilliboy, let's go. bulldzr89@gmail.com. Put your money where your mouth is. Ek is gatvol vir almal wat alewig dreig. Ek wag.

      jk - 2011-07-28 14:35

      dozer- hou jou pantie ann asb. ek wag nog steeds vir n reply op my mail sarie...

      BLOODY AGENT - 2011-07-28 14:55

      jk-panty ann? is dit jou meisie se naam of weereens n spelfout?

      jk - 2011-07-28 15:01

      hierdie keer mag dit miskien n foutjie van my kant af wees...

      Bulldozer - 2011-07-28 15:53

      Jk, ek het reply. Nou wat nou?

      Paul - 2011-07-29 19:25

      @Chillipop ...don't mail him ....he mails back nude pics of himself ... caught me with that trick yesterday ... sick puppy !!!

  • MonsterHOND - 2011-07-28 07:44

    so what!

      kosie - 2011-07-28 08:43

      my point exactly

  • 106SA - 2011-07-28 07:52

    Jurie...so far(hopefully it may change???),you are filling the role of a 'ring master' and not a CEO.Take some leadership courses for goodness sakes!!!!!!

      Shaun Seeliger - 2011-07-28 08:48

      I think Jurie is keeping sarugby alive and doing a superb job. not sure what you going on about not having leadership abilities... You get some absolute tossbags out there...

      jk - 2011-07-28 12:52

      agree- hes very good, inteligent guy

  • chiepner - 2011-07-28 08:00

    The only guys always making fuss is the Aussies. It seems that they think the Bokke and Bok management should do exactly what O'Neil and his cronies wants. If that was the case the Bokke would of been known as the Wallabies, but they'r not. So what if South Africa decided to rather rehabiliteit their most important core group of players that will in less than 50 days do battle for the worlds most important trophy? So what if we can afford to take a B or even a C team over there that manage to lose each and every game. So what! In three, four years to come those "B" team players will be our starting 15. Its absolutly great that they do get the exposure now in top level rugby to allow them to see where they are and just how much they need to improve to actually be the best they can be. This is not a bad thing for SA Rugby. The bad thing for SA Rugby is a S15 comp thats long and winding. The degration of the Currie Cup and the vast amount of rugby that being forced down on our players. Maybe the aussies would do best to focus on their preperation for the WC. They seem to forget the lesson the English taught them when they where so hell bend to throw stones at them the previous world cup. Shut up and do your thing, we will do ours.

      wozakiwi - 2011-07-28 08:08

      This is something that has been reported by the SA'n media,,,,NOT the Aussies!!!

      Mike@CapeT - 2011-07-28 08:37

      It is interesting that the Aussies have the least demanding rugby programme of the 3 nations!

      Mike@CapeT - 2011-07-28 08:38

      @woza.....it was the Aussies who were the first to say the most.

      apie - 2011-07-28 09:55

      RUBBISH.

  • ZotBot - 2011-07-28 08:02

    Hmmm, somefing fish going on here Just win the RWC then damn it!

  • Bandleader - 2011-07-28 08:03

    Storm in a teacup. Next...!

  • Anneleen - 2011-07-28 08:13

    Just as long as we have all the Bokke back for the RWC 2011!

  • GT - 2011-07-28 08:14

    SO what, it is only the Ozzies and Kiwis that are bitching and they can get stuffed anyway

      Neville - 2011-07-28 14:09

      Read the report my man. They did not even comment on the fact that there were a training camp in Rustenburg.

  • Dumizulu - 2011-07-28 08:16

    Just another way the media try to raise the profile of certain events!

  • Chilli Boy - 2011-07-28 08:21

    So what difference does it make where the players are? All that matters to us is that they are being prepared for the World Cup.The sports reporter on etv, Horriblebovits, stood in front of the centre in Rustenburg gleefully reporting that he had tracked down the Bokke and what a groot skandaal it was. Whose side is he on? What a chop, an incompetent fool.

  • colin - 2011-07-28 08:23

    I think the Aussies and NZlanders are running scared they know what the Boks are capable of and the Rassies factor can be the secret weapon for us - I am sure some players have recovered to a level that they can take part in training drills - it only clever for the Bok Management team to use this time to prepare for the RWC – come RWC 2011 the Boks will be stronger and more determined to reclaim the title that was their for the past 4 years.

      apie - 2011-07-28 09:57

      Running scared of these boks? Dream on.

      Black Beauty - 2011-07-28 11:23

      I think the Saffas are scared and arrogant, that's why they need to have a kit kat (break)

      Bumblebee - 2011-07-28 11:52

      What is the Rassie factor. Rassie Erasmus is probably one of the most overated coaching in the rugby world. Look at his record at S14 level. The Stormers couldn't buy a win when he was coach. Allister Coetsee had to take over and give Rassie some coaching lessons. Two years in a row they made the semi's of the S15. But I guess Allister will never get the credit that is due. Wonder why??

      Lance - 2011-07-28 15:45

      Sure they might be fit enough to run but not take contact. Doesnt it make sense to keep all the guys under one roof so that the docs and physios dont have to travel the entire country to treat them back to playing health....???

  • Dan - 2011-07-28 08:31

    Just need to point out that Rustenburg doesn't have a high performance centre. As far as I know there are high performance centres in Pretoria and Cape Town. No doubt that they are doing some training - but why not? Is their any law against that? Surely SARU can do with its assets (players) what they want. Isn't this again a case of South Africans trying do discredit each other? As a national we just love undermining each other and love the regular stab in the back. The media is really sick.

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-07-28 08:47

      @Dan - the high performance centre in question, is the one England used as their base for the FIFA World Cup last year.....very high performance indeed. Great setup, great facilities.

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-07-28 08:48

      But I agree with you 10000000% - Screw the bloody SA media, who can't wait to "nail" the Boks.

      Kaapie - 2011-07-28 10:22

      Nohing wrong in doing what they are doing.. smart i think. they will play their proper teams in the SA leg and hopefully will have good momentum going into the WC!! Smart I say

  • biro - 2011-07-28 08:39

    Liar

  • roboman1 - 2011-07-28 08:39

    and if they are at a camp, thank goodness, cause they need all the training we can get

  • Tools1 - 2011-07-28 08:44

    Can you smell the fear..... I cant wait to see the Boks singing our beautiful national anthem with real passion on home soil just before facing the Hakakja......... I cant wait to see Bakkies tackle the bejesus out of SBW. Im stocking up with Castle and wood this is going to be a very exiting next 3 months!!!!!!!

      Sonicboom - 2011-07-28 09:27

      Nice one Tools, don't forget to stock up on wors and biltong, strike season is far from over.

      Cuzin - 2011-07-28 09:36

      So a bek kort jam!!

      apie - 2011-07-28 10:00

      If you are against racism you would be against the boks. How can people stand by and watch how saru messes up rugby? As usual south efrikans are slow to wake up.

      Bumblebee - 2011-07-28 11:53

      Stock up on the Forget me nots as well.

      BringITon007 - 2011-07-28 12:23

      @apie- you sound like one!!! WTF???? "If you are against racism you would be against the boks" Go blog with JM!!! He will agree with RACIST... P*ss off

      smallies - 2011-07-28 12:41

      ek se apie is daai nick n refleksie van jou IK

      StaalBurgher - 2011-07-28 12:58

      @apie, being against the Boks due to the government's racist policies won't solve the problem. That is just a sympton and the problem goes much deeper into the psyche and much wider than just the shores of southern Africa. Only once the majority of white South Africans, Americans, Europeans admit that they are being held to ransom by the blacks and that reverse racism has been disguised as PC, BEE etc will the average man be angry enough to say "no". Unfortunately the majority of us are still walking around with our eyes closed, whispering to ourselves "it will be ok, it will be ok", more frightened of being labelled with ridiculous terms such as racist or bigot instead of defending our culture and right to exist against people that are more racist than we could ever be.

  • Rob Rabbit - 2011-07-28 08:54

    Excellent comment - why it was simply not announced at the outset would be my only question. In any sport being injured does not mean lying in bed all day - if you are a runner, you may not be able to run, but you can still swim or in many cases ride a bike. So called sports commentators often no zippo about sport, injury and preperation et al.

  • Aramis - 2011-07-28 09:35

    BARGAIN, BARGAIN, BARGAIN!!!! They longer you keep PdV away from the 'real Boks', the better our chances will be at the WC. The Aussies and Kiwis recognize this, hence the bitching!

  • CharlSkeptic - 2011-07-28 09:46

    Div for President! (Not coach)

  • Michael - 2011-07-28 09:47

    All quiet now paul?? Dude, ur not gonna klap anyone online so calm urself down.. Grow up rat!

      jk - 2011-07-28 12:42

      lol-cyber klap

      BLOODY AGENT - 2011-07-28 14:57

      jk-jy moet vir jouself ook lag aangesien jy ook klappe belowe he,fark ma jy is regtig nie baie slim nie

  • Cuzin - 2011-07-28 09:47

    The players are employed by SARU, they get paid while injured. Why the hell shouldn't they train? And training doesn't necessarily mean physical training; they're probably doing video analyses and planning strategy. PS: Doesn't "secret" mean nobody else knows?

  • apie - 2011-07-28 09:47

    Caught out red handed. Saru and the coach must resign.

      Kevin - 2011-07-28 15:39

      LOL, some okes just dont get it You my friend, are one of those okes hahahahaha

  • Sporter - 2011-07-28 09:53

    Once again Mark Keohone seems to start controversy. Enemy from within

  • apie - 2011-07-28 09:54

    The aussies and AB are quite correct. When you play the strongest teams in the world you field the strongest side. Thes 'injured' boks are far from injured. It is an insult to these other great teams. The IRB should ban the boks until they choose players on merit and they field their strongest team at all times.

      Reathe - 2011-07-28 10:29

      @apie... face the truth! It is stupid to have a big tournament so close to the RWC. If you play any other sport, you arent going to go out the day before and push yourself to the limit just to find the next day, that you are unable to play because of the day before??!! I honestly think that every coaching staff has the right to chose who they want, whether it's a C team or not. If we want to rest our good players for a tournament ( the RWC ),and risk losing the Tri-nations title, then its our right! Why make such a fuss out of crap??

  • pensioner - 2011-07-28 10:53

    I do not know what all the fuss is about- so what if they are on a training camp but why deny it. My wife and I were walking on the Lost City Golf Course at Sun City last week and followed 11 players who were playing a round of golf on the course. I spoke to one of them and said that this was " great sick leave " and he said that they had been training hard in Rustenburg but were given the day off for a bit of relaxation.

  • Jonathan - 2011-07-28 11:18

    Between Jurie and Pdivvy, Springbok rugby is being becoming jus as bad as our government. Lies seem to be order of the day. Why is there not a "Rugby Spectators Union"? We should be able to boycott games when we the public are not happy with the administrators decisions, after all, we pay the salaries of the players and the adminisTRATORS! if it was not for us loyal spectators, there would be no sponsorship deals etc. We can live without rugby - boycott the games and we can take control of the game, the way it should be! I say f#kc the boks - we don't deserve to win the rugby world cup with a captain that is starting to resemble our political leaders by overstaying his welcome! CubanGorilla

  • macrini1 - 2011-07-28 11:59

    NEW ZEALANDERS ARE'NT BITCHING! WE DO'NT CARE ABOUT THE SPRINGBOKS, YOU DON'T POSE A THREAT.YOUR MEDIA ARE THE ONE'S WHO ARE MAKING A FUSS. WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT AUSTRALIA. Cheers...

      Kok - 2011-07-28 13:20

      Agree

      Kevin - 2011-07-28 15:35

      Yes In order of priority for NZ 1. Breathing 2. Sheep Guava 3. Australia 4. Personal Hygiene FAAAK OFF u Sheep Shagging T0SS

      macrini1 - 2011-07-29 05:01

      Wow, real mature boss. The only thing the kiwi's are gonna be shagging are the springboks on Saturday night. Again, blame your media, not ours.

  • jk - 2011-07-28 12:19

    who cares if they in malawi for thet matter!!! half of them belongs there...

  • StaalBurgher - 2011-07-28 12:50

    What I don't get is, if we are indeed resting players is the South African media/public upset that we are resting our players? Really? It is in our interest to do so, so what the **** are you all bitching about?!

  • Michael - 2011-07-28 13:19

    How laughable is this?! That's why Saffas would never make good terrorist. «Hey swaer...you wanna know what I've got in my bag?!» or enemies approaching, troops turn on the Tanoy and say: «snipers on the roof tops of the green building, get ready to shoot! The okes are coming» And so what if they're all in a «secret camp» - key word: secret! - getting ready!? One last mention: Jurie Roux « I run a multimillion rand company...» boy, someone has inferiority complexes big time!!! It's only multimillion rand because we still bother to buy jerseys and merchandise and actually go to the stadiums. If WE the fans and supporters boycott your enterprise, well boet, you'll be looking at the back of the couch...

  • Ben Fowler - 2011-07-28 14:01

    Kan enige f%$#$kken iemand vir my se wat maak dit saak of hulle nou n geheime kamp het of nie. Dit klink vir my eerder of rugby supporters n klomp tiener girlies is wat worry oor wie vir wie date. Net n klomp controversie oor niks. WTF..

  • jk - 2011-07-28 14:40

    chilli- its easy for these keyboard cowboys to be mr matcho if they 14 hours away. no worries people-jk here to protect you

  • D-man - 2011-07-28 14:51

    I'm so tired of our media and our stupid reporters, it's like they got nothing else better to do. So what if the injured players are at a secret training camp.Just because the New Zealand media heard rumours about this secret training our dumb ass reporters have to go prove it just to give us a bad name. Why do the media always have it in for our National Cricket and Rugby teams before a world cup. If we said the same thing about the New Zealand and Aus team they'd tell us to bugger off and stop complaining and you wont see there media or repoters go out and prove them wrong. So get a life reporters and just let the boks train.

  • Kevin - 2011-07-28 15:12

    :-| Meh..

  • Chillipop - 2011-07-28 15:13

    @ Bulldozer....Everyone together "AGGRESSIVE...BE BE AGGRESSIVE"! Not cool Dude...relax!

  • Lance - 2011-07-28 16:04

    It makes financial and practical sense to keep everyone under the same roof..imagine being the physio having to fly around SA doing house calls ?? Sure some of the guys might be fit enough to run..but not to take contact, so let them pass the ball around as a team...nothing wrong with that.

  • BiggestBull - 2011-07-28 17:43

    Any news on Pierre Spies' injury?

      pensioner - 2011-07-28 18:48

      Can't be too bad--saw him playing golf on the Lost City Golf Course last week.

  • Kleinboet - 2011-07-28 17:52

    If they are training under Rassie Erasmus, at least they are in good hands! Hope he conditions them well for their return to the game now that they have recuperated somewhat. Did these gossipmongers think that an injured player will stay injured forever? Did they think that an injured player will still be injured on Friday and can play on Saturday? Did they think at all! Of course, they will be tested to see to what extent their injuries have healed and will practice to retain their fitness as far as possible. Training to retain fitness levels does not mean that they are ready to take to the field and should be put on an aeroplain for NZ at this late stage! Even if they are again fighting fit by now it would be the right thing to keep them here in the RSA and prepare them for their return to the game in a few weeks time.

  • Superfish - 2011-07-29 02:37

    I really hope they are on a secret training camp at this stage every bit would help

  • Joshua Austin - 2011-07-29 06:05

    I like the way Roux is talking over here.

  • Nic Williams - 2011-07-29 10:25

    Honestly who cares if they are at a secret training camp!! SA should be behind the boks!! Shut you goddam mouths and let them prepare for the WC!!

  • Ongers - 2011-07-29 11:00

    Dit is alles pure verniet !!! Solank John Smit deel is van die Wereldbeker opset sal ons nie sukses bereik nie Dit wil my voorkom dat die Bokke ondersteuning verloor a.g.v sy betrokkenheid . Advertensieveldtogte op TV sal nie eers die probleem oplos nie . Kan die man nie die eerbare doen soos Januarie en uittree nie . Met John Smit as kaptein klop my Springbokhartjie maar flou vir hulle .

  • BENOUDEBOK - 2011-07-29 15:25

    Well whether they are training or not this is a world cup we are playing for this year and we are going to win it. The players that will make it to the final will be the ones that will hold the cup at the final. Lets support our team and win the All Blacks tomorrow with our so called second team.

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