No place for Aplon, de Jongh

2010-07-06 17:40

Adnaan Mohamed

Auckland – Two of South Africa’s most exciting young backline talents Gio Aplon and Juan de Jongh will not be in the Springbok starting line-up in the Tri-Nations Test match against New Zealand at Eden Park on Saturday.

The Stormers-duo have both played excellent rugby for the Boks since making their Test debuts this year. They have also proven themselves against the best that the Super 14 has to offer.

The Springbok match 22 will however only be named on Thursday, but if the Bok training session at the Takapuna Rugby Club on Auckland’s North Shore is anything to go by, Jean de Villiers will start on the right wing, with the Bulls-duo of Wynand Olivier and Zane Kirchner preferred  to De Jongh and Aplon at inside centre and fullback respectively.

Aplon who played his last Test against Italy in East London at fullback, will probably make his debut against the All Blacks from the bench with De Jongh possibly out of the match-22

“The All Blacks are still the number one team in the world. It’s the dream of any youngster playing rugby in South Africa, to play against the All Blacks. I am still a bit nervous and sometime have to pinch myself to feel if everything is real,” Aplon said about the impending clash against the arch enemy.

Bakkies Botha (hamstring) and Danie Rossouw (hip) did not participate in Tuesday’s practice session.  They will be given a chance until Thursday to recover.

Andries Bekker partnered Victor Matfield in the engine room, while Gurthrö Steenkamp, John Smit and Jannie du Plessis will again make up the front row.

The loose-forward combination of Pierre Spies, Schalk Burger and Francois Louw should remain the same.

According to Louw who will also make his debut against the Kiwis on Saturday, he expects the men in black will have a point to prove after their disappointing Tri-Nations campaign last year.

“We beat them three times last year and they will probably be out to take revenge. We are expecting a great onslaught from them,” warned Louw.

Ricky Januarie and Morné Steyn should remain as the halfback pairing, with Ruan Pienaar and Butch James warming the bench. 

The possible Springbok starting line-up:
Zane Kirchner, Jean de Villiers, Jaque Fourie, Wynand Olivier, Bryan Habana, Morné Steyn, Ricky Januarie, Pierre Spies, Francois Louw, Schalk Burger, Victor Matfield, Bakkies Botha, Jannie du Plessis, John Smit (captain) and Gurthrö Steenkamp.


  • Molefe - 2010-07-06 17:56

    Jean de Villiers Aat wing? After he has shown that he is totaly useless and cannot support his Fullback? Watch Carter completely destroy him! And the Thug back in the team. Hello Yellow card! When are they going to put his idiot out of his misery?

  • darkwing - 2010-07-06 17:59

    Just when you thought it was safe to switch on your telly... Between the soccer and now the real rugby our nerves will be flayed.

  • Pierre - 2010-07-06 18:10

    They can do the hard work and prove themselves before they can expect a place in the squad. One or two good performances are not an automatic ticket into the team. Who do you drop?

  • jakes - 2010-07-06 18:11

    When will we finally let Butch "go"? Surely there are players like Grant that have proved to be worthy? Butch has proven only one thing in all his years, and that is that he is a liability for any team. He proved that again in his last outing. Why waste a spot in the team on a has-been?

  • Jean - 2010-07-06 18:32

    Een van die beste senters in die wereld op vleul?

  • MJS - 2010-07-06 18:34

    And There Was Light! The All Blacks would have had a field day with Aplon - he is very good when nobody is in front of him, but hey guys we all know 15 man rugby does not work like that. De Jongh looked good against a second rate team like Italy, but this is the All Blacks - we need experience. We want to win - get rid of Butch James he is a LIABILITY!

  • Jacques - 2010-07-06 18:37

    I couldn't agree more with Jakes. Butch James epitomises everything that was wrong with SA rugby a couple of years ago. He is stupid and a huge liability in any team.

  • Jean - 2010-07-06 18:38

    Short memories regarding Butch. Without him it would have been difficult to have won the World Cup. he must still be one of the most feared tacklers in the game. Ask anyone he has played against! Give credit where it is due. If de Villiers selects him, then he must be worth his place. He has a big choice!

  • peebo - 2010-07-06 18:56

    De Jongh and Aplon should start -Kirchner and Olivier are at best solid, neither an exceptional talent. Nothing to do with Provincial bias, I also believe Hougaard should partner Steyn. Go Bokke!!

  • ian - 2010-07-06 19:00

    I think that Butch has had his time. He has served his country admirably and although often a liability he was one of our hard men. Now, I believe that Grant deserves a turn, he has played well this last year AND frankly it is time for Ruaan to actually have his time to concentrate on a position. He is one of SA's true talents AND consequently he is abused by management and used all over the park. Allow him to reach his potential as one of SA's greatest be it flyhalf or scrumhalf or ????(because he can)

  • Fishman - 2010-07-06 19:02

    I still cannot believe that Helium deV won't select the superior in all facets Kockott at 9 instead of the token Januarie!

  • mike - 2010-07-06 19:08

    I hope that does turn out to be the starting team. Looks good to me, I would preferr Danie at 7 with Louw at 6 and start with CJ but happy with the possible team. Lets go kick some NZ butt.

  • Bob - 2010-07-06 19:12

    Aplon is KAK! He should be playing CC, not 3N. Kirchner could become Bok material but he should only be on the bench.

  • LESLIE - 2010-07-06 19:14

    Molefe jy verstaan nie die game nie, gaan kyk weer die vorige game dan kan jy sy waarde sien. Ek dink dit is buten Aplon die beste span wat hy kon kies, go bokke.

  • Emile - 2010-07-06 19:18

    Andries Bekker pairing with Matfield is a problem. Bekker should at best remain on the bench, a place he got quite used to in recent times according to gossip newspapers. His performance in the Super 14 final showed that he is not ready yet to take over from Matfield and certainly their combination will not suite our game plan or scrum. Sure he just trained with Matfield while Botha and Rossouw are given time to recover from injuries. If both recover in time, Bekker will have to move back to his other park bench. Against the All Blacks, Aplon might have been a bit tooooo small. I would have however taken the chance as Zane has not been in good form lately. Wynand Olivier and Fourie are an excellent combination and no need to tamper with them in the midfield. Olivier's performance in the Super 14 final against Fourie and De Jongh proofed that he is currently the in form centre in SA. Olivier totally overshadowed both Fourie and De Jongh in the final. Butch in the final 22 is a problem. He hasn't shown any form and I would have preferred De Jongh on the bench ahead of Butch. De Jongh is an investment for the future and Butch simply doesn't have anything to offer SA rugby in light of other available talent. This is the All Black after all and not Italy or a second rated Welsh team. De Villiers is fine on the wing although his lack of pure pace is not ideal. January is January and the less we say the better. I have a very bad feeling about the All Blacks and think without Fourie Du Preez we are going to struggle. Same applies if Botha and Rossouw are not fit. Glad to see Smit back at hooker, although I still think the team carries him as player. Gary Botha and Tiaan Liebenberg surely must be better hookers if current form is taken into consideration. At least Smit is not prop anymore. PDV has show time and time again that he might regard himself as a "God's Gift" but he is totally clueless when it comes to team selection and combinations.

  • Joe - 2010-07-06 19:22

    Zane Kirchner, Gio Aplon, Jaque Fourie, Jean de Villiers, Bryan Habana, Morné Steyn, Ricky Januarie, Pierre Spies, Francois Louw, Schalk Burger, Victor Matfield, Bakkies Botha, Jannie du Plessis, John Smit (captain) ,Beast Matawarira.

  • Stormer - 2010-07-06 19:25

    @Molefe Please just shutup!! One can see that you know nothing about rugby.

  • Etienne - 2010-07-06 19:28

    Great choice. Aplon and De Jongh are not physically up to standard for the task against the All Blacks. Molefe clearly doesn't understand the game.

  • ImapartialCanuck - 2010-07-06 19:37

    @Molefe - don't know which "thug" you are referring to, but can't understand why you don't get behind your SA team? To have an enforcer like Botha, or Burger, will only help keep the others guessing and unnerve them - what is wrong with that? You need them in any contact sport!! I am not an authority on rugby, but see it very similar to ice hockey and the need for contact, or am I mistaken?

  • Molefe - 2010-07-06 19:39

    @LESLIE - tell me again AFTER the game!

  • I Told You So - 2010-07-06 19:49

    Jean on the wing? Why is PdV moving him out of position? Zane is not as good as Frans. So why is Zane being picked ahead of Frans? PdV is playing silly-buggers again. Ruan is another one floating around out of position. Ricky is not as good as Ruan. Why is Ricky being picked ahead of Ruan? Butch James is a has-been and a dirty tackler. PdV, you are making big mistakes, as you have been doing since the Lions 3rd Test in particular, and it is a matter of time before you pay for it, and Bok supporters pay for it. Stop being so bloody silly, and making things easier for NZ, or you are going to cost SA this T3 and the World Cup in NZ next year.

  • Jawellnofine - 2010-07-06 19:55

    @Molefe put him oiut of his misery at about the same time as you! Go watch tiddleywinks chop!

  • Balsak - 2010-07-06 19:57

    Aplon and De Jongh dropped for Olivier and Kirchner, what a JOKE??? Zane and Wynand is USELESS verby!!! Team should look like this 15 Kirchner 14 Aplon 13 Fourie 12 De Villiers 11 Habana 10 Steyn 9 Ricky 8 Spies 7 Louw 6 Burger 5 Bekker 4 Botha 3 Jannie 2 John 1 Beast

  • Zack - 2010-07-06 20:05

    Butch se tyd is verby hy was ok op sy tyd maar teen die Kiewies kan ons nie geelkaarte belostig nie. En January moet liewer februarie en maart word weet wat soek die vent daar nie. Pieter Grand is n baie beter keuse as Butch

  • Priester - 2010-07-06 20:22

    Let the games begin!! Agree with Molefe and Jakes... Butch should not be there! He is a liability to our team. Not selecting Aplon and De Jongh prove the incredible depth we have. They are worthy of selection and only through perseverance and working on their game will they be selected. My personal opinion is that Zane and Wynand are the better players albeit with a very, very slim margin.

  • uyss - 2010-07-06 20:36

    Kockott at 9 is dit nie die beste wat ons nou het nie dink n biekie,,, en hy kan baie goed skop ook,,help my reg...of is ek nou verkeerd??

  • Obvious - 2010-07-06 21:31

    You cant expect anyone to suddenly perform out of position at the highest level, not even Jean de Villiers. He's rated as one of the best centres in the world & now everyone expects him to be a world class wing. John Smit @ prop - failed Pienaar @ random baclkine - failed JdV @ wing - will probably fail Why can't PdV use players in the same positions they represent their unions & excel?

  • Hmm... okay - 2010-07-06 21:37

    Not bad. Jean on wing is not a bad call; we are a little short on good right wingers with JP out and a youngster like Gerhard v/d Heever injured. Only two guys I would include - Frans at fullback. Kirchner is not good enough for test match rugby; Frans won us the game last year with his boot. And obviously Ruan Pienaar in for fat-ass Januarie. Januarie is our weakness; the AB's will target him. But in having said that, he does have a pretty good record against them. Still would rather prefer Ruan in the starting 15 - they are wasting him badly. Other than that, a good solid side. If this is indeed the side they are going to pick.

  • gravie - 2010-07-06 21:43

    Butch is definatly is a total waist of time/Jean on the wing??what a joke

  • Small Aplon - 2010-07-06 21:47

    Aplon is K**!!! CC level at best. Send him back to sevens!

  • BOKBAL - 2010-07-06 22:40

    @Small Aplon, you definitely do not deserve a name like that! Aplon with his size and character has prob got more talent in his pinkie than you!!!

  • Fed Up!! - 2010-07-06 23:24

    Aplon, blah blah blah, De Jongh blah blah blah. Did the All Blacks all of the sudden import giants from outer space or something? Aplon and De Jongh will play against exactly the same players they destroyed in the S14. If all the Boks had half the "heart" Aplon has, we will never, ever lose a game again. The Strormers beat all the NZ sides in the 2010 S14. With Aplon and De Jongh. What a bunch of crap. They were good enough to beat all NZ sides but not good enough to play the same NZ players in the All Black side. THAT IS JUST PLAIN STUPID!!!!!! I'm so gald the department of education decided to change the curricullum. Maybe in a few years time we might read some comments that is not subjected to emotion without the benefit of intellect.

  • sean @ molefe - 2010-07-06 23:57

    lol !! Suppose you also a big southern-spears supporter , lol !! Go support bafana and stfu !!

  • Molefe - 2010-07-07 00:01

    @Stormer, I knew enough about rugby to tell you that my Bulls where going to kick your Stormer butts! Or do you suffer from a sudden selective bout of amnesia? @ImpartialCanuk, Dude, I normally find your posts quite entertaining and fairly accurate. But to say that Burger unerves any opposition? They all sit up and smile when they see his name on the team list! They know that they will have one yellow card minimum! He is an embarasment to South Africans! I will say it again! Jean de Villiers has no idea about covering his Fullback! And Carter will know all about this! Only the WP supporters still rate these two very over rated players! And the S14 finals showed us how much They know about rugby! So one more time! Come sing their praises again AFTER the game!

  • @Molefe - 2010-07-07 00:36

    Stupid idiot!

  • @Emile - 2010-07-07 00:59

    EMILE I can only imagine how you sat back in front of your computer and did your spell check on Word before you copy and paste to post your professional “OMG I am suppose to be an International coach” comments. Very proud of yourself...mooiman! You are just another obsessed BB supporter, most properly guy as well, who’s balls is painted blue. Olivier is a plonker and will never be better that an average S14/15 player. I still remembered how the BB supporters bitched about little Ettiene Botha (RIP) who you though should have been a Bok.Do you actually know that Olivier is a 12 and Fourie 13? I don’t think there is 1 supporter in the world (except for BB supporters) that would recon Olivier as a better player than Fourie or de Villiers. What S14 final did you watch? You are glad to see Smit back but still believes he is “carried by the team” Huh? If DIV was so clueless when selecting his team it is very strange that he won the Tri-Nations last year! Thanks god you didn’t pick the team. I don’t think you are able to pick your nose mate!

  • @MJS and........ - 2010-07-07 01:11

    MJS you didn’t really say anything mate! @FISHMAN Kockott is just another arrogant average shorts*$t scrumhalf with a big ego and no brains. @BOB and therefore your no 15 is.............Bob? @SMALL APLON it must be very difficult to be a real big clown like you and accept that MEN like Aplon, de Jongh, Brent Russell to mention a few small players, perform so well while you never have and never will reach anything else in life but being able to stand on the floor and fit a light bulb without using a ladder! How many tackles did the “k#k Aplon missed in the S14 this year or what do you recon then is the problem with the size? Did you see the try he scored against the French at Newlands or was it a little bit too quick for your small brain? They say small men have BIG willies and big outjies like you have really small that true or is that actually the issue here? Happy w@nking mate if you can get your arm around that fat tummy of yours!

  • Hear me, hear me - 2010-07-07 01:57

    Frans will not replace Kirchner, only Aplon, and Januarie will only be replaced by Fourie because he is regarded as the best in the world (debatebly) - go and make your own conclusions what games Snorrie is's the invisible elephant again

  • andre carlos - 2010-07-07 02:25

    someof you just show your true colors nothing satisfied the white rugby fans, he choose two bulls still not good enough, ruan I am sure can play anywhere why not in, why dont you ask why not in Juan De villiers place on the wing, Personally as a south african I hope the all blacks beat the boks , and then I want to see where you all satnd , klomp suurgevrete

  • Kevin - 2010-07-07 05:52

    Dont let your honky mindset get in the way of rugby. Aplon is by far one of the best wings we have and JDV on wing is stoopid as you are. Tubbie at scrumhalf is what will cost us the game.

  • Hannes - 2010-07-07 06:27

    The All Blacks wants to run the ball, the Boks wants to close them down. PdV selected a team with a plan that is not that hard to pin point. The rush defense system will work overtime and force to Carter and Nonu into the Boks strong centres and if they try to through the rush long pass - there are two intercept specialists in Bryan Habana and Jean de Villiers on the wings. The Boks forwards need to dominate as this back line will not.

  • wayne - 2010-07-07 06:34

    Dear Adnaan Mohamed...Write articals on ballet! You don't send boys to do a mans job! This is test rugby at best level. Putting Aplon in this level would be like sending Baby Jake to Fight Mohamed Ali!!! Common sense...clearly something you lack.

  • Will - 2010-07-07 06:36

    Horses for courses. I think PDV has it 100% right, I think this is perhaps not our best team, but it is our best team to face the Kiwis. Kiwis would eat Aplon alive. He's too inexperianced at this point in his career. We not gonna fly down the wings against the Kiwis, so De villers at right wing is smart. In reality it gives us 3 centres to counter a superb backline. Butch on the bench is insurance in case we need more mongrel (as they in Aus). Januarie has it over the AB's for some reason, he will irritate the hell outta them. This is a purpose picked team designed to unsettle the Kiwis.

  • Frans - 2010-07-07 07:11

    Aplon young talent? Is'nt he like 28 years old?

  • @everyone - 2010-07-07 07:20

    All you butch haters out there obviously have seenvery little of Butch lately!!! He has been playing the best Rugby of his life for Bath and is a huge ASSET in any team!!! Would start him ahead of Morne anyday!! The team should look like this: 15. M Steyn 14. Aplon 13. Fourie 12. De Villers 11. Habana 10. James 9. Pienaar 8. Kanko 7. F Louw 6. S Burger 5. Matfield 4. Roussow 3. BJ Botha 2. Smit 1. Beast Reserves form: Spies, Hougaard, Kockett, Steenkamp, J du Plessis, B Botha, Olivier.

  • Etienne - 2010-07-07 07:34

    I LIKE

  • Lefty - 2010-07-07 07:43

    @BALSAK ek stem saam met jou met die agterlyn , kannie glo snorre speel De Villiers op die vleul nie . Die beste senterpaar ter wereld Fourie - De Villiers . Senters vir die AB Nonno en Conrad Smith ?? Die vraag is , sal Aplon vir Roccoco kan stop ? @MOLEFE , its obvious you dont know your rugby , neither what you talking about !!

  • to small - 2010-07-07 07:57

    Baby Aplon and De Jongh are to small for the All Blacks... You can't play against the ABs with children...

  • Laeveld Stormer - 2010-07-07 08:03

    "Auckland – Two of South Africa’s most exciting young backline talents Gio Aplon and Juan de Jongh will not be in the Springbok starting line-up in the Tri-Nations Test match against New Zealand at Eden Park on Saturday. The Stormers-duo have both played excellent rugby for the Boks since making their Test debuts this year. They have also proven themselves against the best that the Super 14 has to offer." WTF is Div doing leaving these two guys out? They have been proven against the best, they score scintilating tries, they defend well! what more do you want? Is Div still experimenting? Now? at the start of the 3N? I am really dissapointed. Playing Meisiekind (I can't do anything from a standing start) Olivier and Zane (headbutt and never never ever attack but always kick) Kirchner on fullback. The AB have been sharpening up their counter attack and by including Kirchner Div is playing right into their hands. I said previously Boks by 20, but fkit, now I have my doubts.

  • GoBok - 2010-07-07 08:07

    @ Balsak: Back to your usual old "bulls*!t talking" self again, I see. You say:" ... and Zane are useless verby", but then you select Kirschner at 15. Or are you so stupid that you didnt know Zane = Kirschner. Please stop your provincial biased nonsence - You lost the S14, bear with it. It is Tri-Nations now, or didnt you realise that either. Go BOKKE!