Judgment reserved in Div case

2010-08-06 13:23

Cape Town - A ruling in Springbok coach Peter de Villiers's misconduct hearing was reserved on Friday over his suggestion that the team were victims to a conspiracy to assist the All Blacks ahead of next year's Rugby World Cup.

The SANZAR hearing was held in Cape Town over the coach's comments made during the Springboks' disastrous Tri-Nations tour last month.

"The judicial officer advised us that he is going to consider his judgment and let us know by the latest beginning of next week," Andy Marinos, national team manager, told reporters.

De Villiers comments came after the Springboks had players sin-binned early in their two opening two Tests, officiated by northern hemisphere referees, which New Zealand won comfortably.

"I've got my own observations about the last two Tests, and maybe I can't say it in public, but we do have a World Cup in New Zealand next year and maybe it was the right thing for them to win the games so they can attract more people to the games next year," De Villiers said on Australian television.

South African Rugby Union (SARU) president Oregan Hoskins this week called the SANZAR hearing "a declaration of war by Australia and New Zealand against South Africa".

"We are right behind Peter and will defend him to the hilt," Hoskins was quoted by the Cape Argus as saying.

Hoskins confirmed that the coach had promised at a performance review not to make controversial comments about referees in the future, the newspaper said.

De Villiers issued a statement through SARU after the television interview, saying his unhappiness over some refereeing issues was a separate matter and had no bearing on what he said.

"In no manner did I ever suggest that the All Blacks were being favoured -- by match officials or anyone else -- because their country was hosting the Rugby World Cup next year," De Villiers said.

His comment was based on the view that World Cup success rested partly on the host having a winning team.

"This view has been misinterpreted and I wish to make it clear that I had no other intention than to make that specific point. Nevertheless, I regret that this may have created the wrong impression and raised undue concern for SANZAR and the RWC 2011 organisers."

De Villiers is no stranger to controversial comments.

The coach was forced to apologise during last year's Lions tour after appearing to condone rough play by responding to an eye-gouging ban by saying tutus could be bought at the nearest ballet shop.


  • Nick - 2010-08-06 13:29

    Go Divvie. I'd like to see SARU growing some balls and asking SANZAR to explain the inconsistent decisions made on the field.

  • chez - 2010-08-06 13:39

    Never mind PDiv, you have loads of support in S.A. Your strong morals and loyalty is appreciated by many. Ignore the naysayers, they don't count!

  • Chris - 2010-08-06 13:50

    It's obviously going to take a few days to get instructions from New Zealand

  • Leon - 2010-08-06 13:51

    GH should be charged with bringing rugby into disrepute for coaching the AB's to cheat

  • BootPDiv - 2010-08-06 13:55

    Get rid of this "affirmative action" transformation induced embarrassment please.

  • Michael - 2010-08-06 13:59

    Ja right, old Snor. Many will believe you.

  • Seppie - 2010-08-06 14:01

    The fact remains, he is to uneducated to be the Boks coach, to say the things he says in public. No good, The Jake White influence is busy working out or has worked out of the squad, Div cannot start building from the start, replace him with somebody that are able to do so. Fokken fluitjie bek.

  • Eliza - 2010-08-06 14:05

    It's time to get rid of Peter de Villiers - he does not do SA Rugby any good. Horrible little man...

  • justice - 2010-08-06 14:07

    Peter, you have our full support. The decissions of the referees during the 3 games in question can not be explained with anything els.

  • jeremy - 2010-08-06 14:09

    Unconditional loyalty (to Div) is basically stupid. It blinds people to faults that need to be addressed. One of those appears to be the frequency with which Div opens his mouth without fully considering what it is he plans to say. Did anyone do an IQ test on him before he took over from Jake White? He simply doesn't come across as terribly bright!

  • WAYNE G - 2010-08-06 14:09

    It should be called NZAR, we dont feature at all. Lets pull out of the tri nations. Bunch of cheating, inconsistant buffoons.

  • Philip - 2010-08-06 14:10

    Go Pieter. You have more support than you think. Tell them the truth!

  • Henk - 2010-08-06 14:12

    Daars hy, se hulle SNOR!

  • Boks No.1 - 2010-08-06 14:15

    Allan Rolland's actions on the field more than create evidence of probable cause. The all Blacks front line players consistently breaking the rules in the rucks was being allowed, and direct evidence of fowl play. Pdiv needs to exercise caution when blurbing out what the rugby unions forcebly arrange to make the game a success. Its done in Soccer, Formula 1, Cricket etc

  • Utopian - 2010-08-06 14:15

    The problem with Div is that he never takes the high ground. He always engages his mouth before using his brain. If you are going to make a controversial statement stick by it to the end, because when you come out and apologize you just end up embarrassing us all....

  • Riek - 2010-08-06 14:16

    Agree it is about time somebody stands up against Paddy o Brian and their inconsistency. Still say lets go play north Heineken cup, and make it a 7 nation comp, the winner plays the winner of Aus & NZ to see who is that years number 1 side in the World.

  • Robert - 2010-08-06 14:17

    @ Nick... You are right, about time SARU put the pressure on SANZAR and hauled O'Brein infront of the committe to explain the ridiculous decisions being made.... You tell them PdV....

  • Riek - 2010-08-06 14:18

    Agree it is about time somebody stands up against Paddy o Brian and their inconsistency. Still say lets go play north Heineken cup, and make it a 7 nation comp, the winner plays the winner of Aus & NZ to see who is that years number 1 side in the World.

  • mamee - 2010-08-06 14:20

    This type of things are obvious, i think members of SANZAR from australia and new zealand wanted to visit south africa, after our successful world cup we just had. Pieter is just thier excuse to get fully paid holiday visit to SA.

  • 06 - 2010-08-06 14:22

    It's about time that somebody stood up against the international sports bodies. They always have the knives out for any team from South Africa. You go P. Divvy! We suppoert you! And I agree with you Nick, just hope SARU keep the balls!

  • Jacques - 2010-08-06 14:23

    I would like an explanation as to why the SA team is refed by the northern refs and the other two teams by the southern refs. It has been clear for years now that they ( the north) blow the game differently. The southern teams have traditionaly struggled with the northern refs. Why are they in this competition.

  • Bokkie - 2010-08-06 14:24

    I dont care about his shocking media utterences.We all (SA) agree with Divs sentiments if it comes to the unfair treatment towards the Boks..For his boldness to speak up against the "authorities'" Div deserves a Bells

  • Koos Kaap - 2010-08-06 14:26

    Very loyal! Loyal to EE by opicking useless players such as January, Rose and Chiliboy to pacify the ANC. De V is a joke!

  • Swazi Green and Gold - 2010-08-06 14:39

    De Villiers should give all future comments and interveiws in Afrikaans, his home language, and SARU should give him a translator. Then maybe all the Aussies, Kiwis and souties would get off his back.

  • boks number 1 fan - 2010-08-06 14:42

    It's by time SARU stands behind PDV, since he incorporated the position his been saying it as it is. Be it if SA wins or loose, he would always point out how inconsistant the refs were. Well done PDV, we support all your actions against Paddy O' Brien. He was an incosistant ref in his days and he proofs to be an inconsistant member of the board of SANZAR as well. Kick Paddy's @$$ out of there and get some new blood...

  • Andy Strydom - 2010-08-06 14:43

    Whether you like De Villiers or not, whether you are a Bok supporter or not, you just have to agree there is a problem with the officiating. These days the referee is becoming the most influential person on the park. Everything seems to depend on how the referee interprets the game - and thats the problem. You simply cannot have a situation where refs blow differently or inconsistantly. To help the refs I think a simplification of the rugby laws are long overdue and very necessary.

  • Get rid - 2010-08-06 14:46

    ...get rid of Paddy No'Brain and those Irish refs as well....... .....cheaters....

  • @ Seppie - 2010-08-06 14:47

    You take a swipe at our coach for being uneducated and then you use English that leaves a lot to be desired and is somewhat "broken". Or is that just the way we are supposed to communicate in that medium in the new SA? Also, you then have the temerity to end off with expletives!? Foul language is usually associated with those who have a limited vocabulary. So Seppie, who's the uneducated one, then?

  • Everyone but IRB refs can see the ABs are cheating? Match fixing?? - 2010-08-06 14:48

    Div, we back you 100%! You are right even though you didn't mean it, you spoke the truth that the IRb are fixing the matches ahead of the world cup. Don't give in, keep fighting and take them to court because they are match fixing. Go Bokke, Go PDivy!

  • Snorre ook - 2010-08-06 14:52

    Snorre gee gas staan op jou voete op aarde,jy is man genoeg!

  • craig - 2010-08-06 14:53

    GIVE THAT MAN A BELLS. He has had the balls to say what we are all saying and he knew he would be hauled over the coals. Stay with it Div. You mught not be the b4east coach we have, but at least you are not scared to say what you feel and think.

  • BLOUBUL - 2010-08-06 14:58

    so it looks like after you guys called for the clown's head you're all backing his allegations. This is confusing (i.e. contradictory)

  • Irish - 2010-08-06 15:00

    Paddy O'Brien is a New Zealander, not an Irishman. Don't let the name put a bad light on Irish rugby or its refereeing.

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  • yesdiv - 2010-08-06 15:02

    100% for you Div. Tell it like it is.

  • PADDY vs PDV - 2010-08-06 15:07


  • skully - 2010-08-06 15:07

    If PdV can't express himself properly because English is not his home language, that is no excuse for the high profile, well paid job he holds. He should rather then shut up and concentrate on coaching. Perhaps people will then stop calling him a clown and he won't have to appear before these tribunals. The same shit happened with him last year and SA Rugby advised him to tone it down - now he does it again and people want to make excuses for him. Shit or get off the pot I say

  • steve - 2010-08-06 15:12

    Why do SARU have to get behind divvy every time he opens his stupid mouth? SARU admitted to his appointment as a "political" one. So you reap what you sow, idiots!! Mallet was for fired for stating that test tickets were too expensive - hardly a crime? White was not reappointed even after winning the word cup which SARU and poor divvy are still so proud of - i'am confused?

  • Ian - 2010-08-06 15:15

    How surprising another page whinging Saffers going on about how the whole world is against them. You lot give the Poms a run for their money. Get on a real rugby forum, Planet Rugby and see how you lot have become a laughing stock amongst real rugby supporters.

  • porkchop - 2010-08-06 15:15

    Peter is the bomb if JAKE was such a genius was has nobody hired him . whats he coaching now stellenbosch residence sides as for his rugby excellence it did really well at the lions . So lets move forward .

  • Language practioner - 2010-08-06 15:17

    I love reading these comments! If only for the amusement engendered by the low level of language competency evident in the majority of contributions. Example: "fowl play" (should be 'foul'). Does that mean the game was played by a bunch of chickens?! He, he, keep writing guys, you provide me with an endless source of chuckles.

  • ponga ra - 2010-08-06 15:20

    after all of this... none come out and say the all blacks played well and better than the boks, this is the game of rugby(if you played you will know) you win today and 2moro you come back stronger and faster.....and stop blaming refs and coaches, blame the damn players especially the well spoken captain who just speaks well, but looks fatter than Anton Lenard did when he was in he's last season.

  • Hennie - 2010-08-06 15:23

    LOL @Chris

  • TEEJAY - 2010-08-06 15:31

    This stupid pumpkin (old snorre) cannot even coach a team in Pniel, never mind. He got a world champion team and look where they are now, a bunch of overrated a$$holes just like Div and SARU. Off course they will support him, because they are corrupted and now that the boks cannot play the DIRTY game anymore that they are used, they do not feature at all. Face it, all you boks and Div supporters, these are the facts!! Go have another brandy&coke like old DIVVY.

  • Weepee - 2010-08-06 15:32

    Can they prove P Divvy was referring to match fixing? I think not. Nobody understands 90% of what Divvy says anyway. The fact is there is no point in getting up the noses of every ref on the planet because trust me we are going to be cut no slack going forward. SARU should know this but instead they throw their weight behind him. KEEP P DIVVY AWAY FROM THE MEDIA!

  • Brian - 2010-08-06 15:46

    Peter de Villiers - it's time to leave with some dignity left. Please do so before you embarrass yourself any further - with your incoherent ramblings fuelled by your helium pitched voice. For ease of reference; incoherent means:- "not clearly expressed or well thought out, and consequently difficult to understand" How the hell do the players understand him...?

  • Ruben - 2010-08-06 15:54

    Fok die Aussies,NZ and Sanzar our blood stay's green

  • Mr Mike - 2010-08-06 16:20

    Pieter can at least speak his mind but shame on the bunch of stupids that cannot even construct proper sentences. Queen's/Etonian english is no yardstick of one's intelligence or competency.

  • Martin - 2010-08-06 16:21

    Go Div, just a pity you decided to use DICK and Gold as your assistance. Surely there is at least 100 more competent BEE candidates than those two. Get rid of them. VIVA

  • Ernst Marais - 2010-08-06 16:41

    Mooi so Peter! It beats me, since the days of flour bombing episodes why we want to play against countries that have a deep dislike for us, especially if you are Afrikaans speaking. Part of their ingrained Anglo-Sazon world view. Rather play against countries where we are welcome.