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Heyneke tops Boks coach poll

2010-07-30 10:20

Rob Houwing, Sport24 chief writer

Cape Town – Heyneke Meyer would be the Springbok “rescue remedy” most desired by the rugby public should under-fire coach Peter de Villiers get the chop.

That, at least, is the way Sport24 readers are leaning after a poll this week which had attracted almost 6 000 respondents on the site by Friday.

We asked: “If current Springbok coach Peter de Villiers were to be fired, who would you like to see take over?”

It was a hypothetical exercise, of course, because his SARU bosses have pledged their “full support” for De Villiers for the time being, despite the winless overseas leg of the Vodacom Tri-Nations.

But the results were fascinating all the same, with the 42-year-old Meyer clearly a people’s favourite should the job suddenly become available.

He had gathered 33 percent of the spoils from a 10-strong list of candidates we offered, which also included fellow-South Africans Jake White, Allister Coetzee, Rassie Erasmus, Frans Ludeke, Dick Muir, Gary Gold and Naka Drotske plus the New Zealanders John Plumtree and John Mitchell, both presently coaching on these shores.

Meyer currently has a fairly behind-the-scenes roll at Loftus, where he is the Blue Bulls’ Executive: Rugby Coaching, after having more actively coached the franchise for some seven years between 2000 and 2007.

But the man hailing from the Lowveld has also earned respect elsewhere around the country, having cut his teeth with the SWD Eagles and also assisted the Stormers during the Alan Solomons era.

Meyer has also coached Leicester Tigers in the English Premiership.

Next up for approval in the poll, and not far behind (31 percent) is 2007 World Cup-winning mastermind White, who recently made known his keenness for the job again after the 2011 event in New Zealand.

There is also fairly decent support for the Western Province coach Allister Coetzee, running at 17 percent. He has, of course, been a Bok assistant coach previously.

Then there is a drop to nine percent for Erasmus, five percent for the Bulls’ Super 14-winning coach Ludeke and more paltry numbers for the likes of Muir, Mitchell, Drotske, Gold and Plumtree.

Sport24

Comments
  • Blikperd - 2010-07-30 10:37

    Where is DAWIE THERON. He is best coach in SA by a long way. He made the Griquas a great team, even with limited resources. Shoeld be next Bok coach.

  • OMG! - 2010-07-30 10:42

    Typical South Africa mentality! This clown will select even more dumb BB players in the Bok-team who already proofed that they cannot defend and that their game plan sucks! The 2010 S14 was the last time EVER that a team will win a big competition with that kick & charge k@k rugby. Snorre should stay where he is. Appoint an interpreter to assist him at press conferences, get rid of his so-called selectors and fire Dick (ek f@k als op) Muir. Get the WP/Stormers defensive coach in to assist and a decent backline EXPERT to replace Dick Muir. Get rid of John Smit and use Matfield wisely (rest him as much as possible until the next WC) Kick Chilliboy out and ditto for overrated, no-skills Spies. He is a show pony and cannot compete at international level. How difficult is that to see? Final chances for players like Habana, Jean de Villiers and Morne Steyn. No use they perform well at home against k@k teams. The WC will not be played in SA and to be the best you have to beat the best! Lots of VERY GOOD young players at the Sharks and WP. Bakkies PLEASE retire NOW!

  • fuzzy - 2010-07-30 10:43

    Its a no brainer, Meyer is the man. If it has to be a person of color, then it has to be Alistair Coetzee. Coetzee has the credentials without being considered as an AA apointment.

  • Sham - 2010-07-30 10:47

    I dont for one moment believe the readers are honest here. Meyer has only proved sucess at the Bulls but we have to be realistic & admit that any coach would have been able to get a wining team out of that bunch becoz they are a formiddable team and no one can go wrong with them. I believe he must first prove himself at SA under 21 level or junior Springboks like Div had and then we can talk. We must also leave politics out of the equation as we all know that it stuffed up this country quite badly and we have to compare the coaches by results & to this end we can firmly say that Div is a bit better than what Jake was. What we usually find in these forums are that people are quick with their racist remarks instead of being constructive. I would like to know on what basis Meyer got 33 percent of the spoils by the readers and what criteria they used without bringing in politics.

  • WP - 2010-07-30 10:50

    After the great success Heyneke has had with the Blue Bulls, turning them around from the laughing stock of the Super 12 and 14 series, into the dominant champs they are today, there is no doubt he is the next man for the job.

  • Piet Parow - 2010-07-30 10:50

    No surprises there - Meyer was the obvious successor for White and would have gotten the job if it was not for the obvious political agenda of SARU.

  • E - 2010-07-30 10:54

    Had SARU not appointed PDV based on the colour of his skin and not on merit, like Oregan Hoskins admitted, Meyer would have been in charge of the Springboks and we would have been the best side in the world!

  • Lion - 2010-07-30 10:57

    Heyneke Meyer would fix the Boks in no time. Wish the Lions hired him last year instead of Muir!

  • BlouBul - 2010-07-30 11:00

    I think Meyer is the obvious choice here, but you have a good point BLIKPERD, a great coach is ussually a guy that could turn good players (no disrespect) into a great team!!! Dawie Theron!!

  • Joe - 2010-07-30 11:04

    wonder what the sample o respondents were!

  • pierre - 2010-07-30 11:06

    Blikperd stem saam.

  • b - 2010-07-30 11:09

    Any one on the list will be netter than Snorre. I took over from Jake White a very gelled squad. Snorre transformed the squad into the laughing stock of the world

  • JOHAN JOUBERT - 2010-07-30 11:09

    BLIKPERD - NOU PRAAT JY WAAR. EK KEN VIR DAWIE PERSOONLIK EN KAN JOU VERSEKER DAT HY DIE REGTE MAN SAL WEES VIR DIE WERK. HY IS BESIG OM VAN GRIEKWAS 'N GROOT SUKSES TE MAAK. WAS DIT NIE VIR DIE GRIEKWA SPELERS IN DIE CHEETAHS SE SUP14 SPAN NIE HET HULLE NOG SLEGTER GEVAAR. DAWIE THERON MOET NOU RAAK GESIEN WORD !!!!!!

  • Oval Ball - 2010-07-30 11:10

    If tere is a change... Coetzee will be the one

  • THE ALMIGHTY MAN - 2010-07-30 11:10

    i have said it before jake white was the last white man the spring bucks will ever have again as coach...the the next black coach is already in the making in the lower spring buck squads...the heynecke mayer chap will never be a national coach in south africa NEVER!!!! or any other white coach for that matter NEVER EVER!!!

  • @Blikperd - 2010-07-30 11:13

    And you SHOELD(your spelling) go for a brainscan mate!

  • Telg - 2010-07-30 11:17

    • PDV will NEVER lose his job. It is simple - an affirmative appointment does not require results(no matter what the contract say). Removing PDV will be politically incorrect and therefore will not happen. PDV can lose every match from here on and he will remain coach till after WC2011 and even beyond. The only replacement that will ever be considered will be another political appointment. Reason is simple, if a white coach should take over and turn current disaster in success, the embarrassment will be too much to stomach. The fact is the last white coach was Jake WHITE - pun intended.

  • Kobie - 2010-07-30 11:18

    Does everything is SA have to be black??Why don;t the rugby public and the sponsors have a say.We are paying!!! In life WE as the PUBLIC are tired of the South African useless service(be it from blacks or whites).Thing is..whites get fired;blacks dont!! Maybe empty stadiums is what the anc are praying for!!!! Peter Div is uselss and has failed in the job.Who to pick now,black or white should be done not only in the interests of BEE/anc but also in the interests of us the PAYING rugby public!!

  • Frikkie - 2010-07-30 11:24

    If you look at the way the All Blacks played it is a carbon copy of the Stormers S14 campaign this year. Double up on defense, tackle the players back and secure the ball. if the springbok coach "has" to be an affirmative candidate I can think of no other than Alistair Coetzee, brilliant coach and even better with the media. Enough Said

  • THE VOICE - 2010-07-30 11:28

    No SURPRIZE here ... MEYER is simply one of those individuals who was BORN TO BE A RUGBY COACH! Make no mistake ... this man HAS BUILD the BULLS from NOTHING to EVERYTHING ... even to this day the BULLS are reaping the rewards (not only silverware but rands also!) of HEYNEKE MEYER'S hard work! But remember ... even HEYNEKE took two/three years to build the BULLS and create synergy and structures in Pretoria!

  • @sham - 2010-07-30 11:37

    Please refrain from commenting-your response is similar to your title(absolute tripe)PDV-has brought nothing substantial to the Bok Camp/except allowing players to run riot and have a jol!!!NO Gameplan-No insight-No f@@@ing idea but embarrasment!!! The whole lot should be fired!! Time the paying public had a say in who should represent our expectations the best.Certainly no political appointee would get the nod!!! Once bitten hundred times shy!!!

  • Trancesky - 2010-07-30 11:37

    Did Dick Muir vote for himself to get to 2%?

  • @OMG! - 2010-07-30 11:41

    That is just what we need! More Wiepie "robbish" in the team! Don't you like winning?

  • CANTHETRINATIONS - 2010-07-30 11:44

    Well their it is fella's!!!They don't really respect our input in the TRI-Nations and firmly believe the Bledisloe Cup is more important!! Theirs our cue to leave and join the SIX NATIONS or start something else! The 3n is becoming a bore anyway.

  • henk - 2010-07-30 11:45

    natuurlik sal hulle de villiers ondersteun, hulle het die NAR aangestel in hulle SIRKUS!!

  • Bruce - 2010-07-30 11:45

    Div will stay...no chance of change AND chilliboy will be next captain!! No way I will pay good money to see bnoks embarrass themselves again...can't believe soweto test is sold out already... I will rather support the All Blacks than the "All Browns" with 'token' whites....dit is die toekoms vir SA rugby!

  • THE VOICE - 2010-07-30 11:46

    A point of correction to some of the obvious "less informed and ignorant rugby illiterate girls here ..." such as OMG! When Meyer took the "flou kalfies" and eventually made them the MIGHTY BULLS no one ... but no one ... even heard of the likes of MATFIELD, BOTHA, DU PREEZ, LEONARD, HOUGAARD, JOUBERT, SCHOLTZ, HABANA, CRONJE etc ... HEYNEKE MEYER made these and other guys ... he "developed them" into Currie Cup and Super 14 champions!! He "provided" them to JAKE WHITE to eventually become TRI NATIONS and RWC CHAMPIONS!! In fact ... MEYER even managed to beat the then BULLS team with the SWD team that he was coaching prior to his appointment at the BULLS!

  • Jakes - 2010-07-30 11:58

    One thing is for sure, the way it is going now, its all downhill to nothing. Why don't the top guys take action or even better, why don't the rugby supporters take action-we pay for what we see and at this point we pay but see nothing!!!!!! Just a lot of shame for the sircus!!! Anyway, even a real sircus is organized-you know beforehand that the lions are coming out at 20:00-can't say the same of the Bok sircus!!!!

  • Comrade - 2010-07-30 11:59

    It's NOT what the minority public with an agneda has to say...the decision will made by those who are mandated to carry it as prescribed to them finish and klaar.

  • Soothsayer - 2010-07-30 12:09

    We the public can vote with our feet,if the results are not there don't attend Springbok games until the problem is fixed,or the coach is changed.This is a natural progression,the bottom teams do not enjoy the same volume of support as the performing teams.Look at the Lions support,it is not there to be seen in the stands.

  • Green or Gold (African) - 2010-07-30 12:16

    DIV is not going any where, for those who think rugby is piano keys (black or white thing) you're all in a wrong country. Marllet lost games/super Jake lost games too and believe me or not DIV will win us the WC next year. I dont care whether the next Bok coach will be RED, Yellow, GREEN as long as he will be ready for the JOB.

  • Theo - 2010-07-30 12:16

    DAWIE THERON

  • Tom - 2010-07-30 12:23

    O dear, so NOW they will ONLY be kicking. As if it isn't bad enought... Shame, poor bokke.

  • Fred @ THE VOICE - 2010-07-30 12:26

    Still have not heard of Leonard - or are you talking about the useless no8 from the Bulls that played 1 or 2 games for the boks and was only picked because he is a bull, Hougaard - useless, Scholtz?? Joubert?? Cronje?? - did they even play under Meyer. Ina any case, if that is the best you can come up with then we might as well give the Bulls up for the Southern Spears.

  • Sham - 2010-07-30 12:27

    Once again I will ask your guys to leave the politics out and use statistics to get our anwers. Im not saying Div must stay and to be honest, I actually don like him but he has proved himself with the junior guys and i believe Meyer must do the same. Why must he get the top job if he hasnt proven himself in SA rugby and I dont talk about Super 14 here. Just check the history and see for example how many players the Crusaders lost to foreign teams and yes, they suffered becoz of this. Lets be honest here, that was the time the Blue Bulls were the top team. At the moment the wrong players are in the squad but I can easily say that if we take out guys like Smith, Spies, De Villiers, Steyn, Bakkies, Olivier, Chilliboy and yes maybe even Habana. We have more than enough talent to select into the Boks team.

  • Koos - 2010-07-30 12:29

    Well Dawie Theron should definitlitly be on the list to at least stand a chance. He is good, but think Meyer is better

  • me - 2010-07-30 12:29

    Find a Medium and bring back Kitch as coach!!

  • Jou Ma'a Nonu - 2010-07-30 12:31

    Well a great coach can turn any team into a great one. Jimmy Stonehouse and Dawie Theron

  • Deon - 2010-07-30 12:39

    I dont think we will see anything but affirmative coaches in the near future.Oregan Hoskins is in charge and the national coaches are Peter De Villiers, Eric Sauls and Paul Treu!!!!!!!!!

  • @OMG and co - 2010-07-30 12:46

    When you have something to brag about then you can open your trout, until then please refrain from trying to sound clever. What you numbnuts cant phantom is that this is the SPRINGBOK team, an national team and your over zealous provincialism is worse than PdV's coaching! Get over it please your tune is starting to loose its melody. Regarding the coaching, Meyer is your man, but in new SA tradition, anything that has discipline, honor, success is frowned upon if it is done by a white guy. Why is wanting to win such a bad thing? Jeesh let me try another last beat at a old cliche, PICK THE BEST PEOPLE FOR THE JOB, and everyone wins!!!!

  • @blikperd - 2010-07-30 12:56

    If that is how you reason then Heyneke Meyer should get the job. He took the Eagles, with even less resources than the Griquas, to a currie cup semifinal. Theron has never made the semi final, not even when the Boks werent playing. Heyneke did this with the Eagles and the all Boks were available.

  • Knopkierie @ Sham - 2010-07-30 12:56

    You clearly know very little about rugby or have not been following it for very long. The Bulls were nowhere before Meyer took over, and he basicly took them from zero to the champion side they still are today...Very unlike Div who took over a side which were already champions and now can't maintain that. It is easy to look good for a while when you take over a great team, but after a while, if you don't adapt, it's going to blow up in your face i.e three losses in a row.

  • kalmkallie - 2010-07-30 12:57

    why don't you put Div's name in the poll as well and let's test the public ?

  • Rugby Lover - 2010-07-30 13:00

    Is this Meyer that ran away from his job at the Leicester Tigers and the same Meyer that said that Derrick Hougaard was the best No10 in the world? I would rather have PDV.

  • Loepster - 2010-07-30 13:06

    kom almal sit ek dink vir n slag , die bokke was swak, die coach kan net soveel doen en dan moet die spelers op die veld 101% gee , die bokke het moeg gelyk , paar van die manne het hulle harte uitgespeel , te veel rugby vir paar van die manne , Matfield , John Smith , Waynand Olivier , Habana , moet gaan n bietjie gaan rus , hulle lyk baie moeg , habana moet ook leer om n bleddie bal vas te vat , so gebruik n bietjie ander manne , ons het genoeg diepte en manne wat lus is vir Rugby speel .

  • Nigel - 2010-07-30 13:21

    Heineke Meyer should have been the coach in the 1st place, the sooner we move away for politics in sport the better. Politicians are useless at politics, nevermind sport. It doensn't matter how well the Boks do now, PdV has done such damage to SA's rugby image with his idiotic statements, he should be replaced.

  • @b - 2010-07-30 13:25

    Are u a goldfish with a short memory or no memory @ all!!

  • Roberto - 2010-07-30 14:04

    For a kicking game Meyer, defence Coetzee overall Nick Mallet

  • Deon2 - 2010-07-30 14:12

    Ai people politics should stay of the blog and so does all these one eyed Stormers. Every time I look at the blog there is always someone who want all the other players that are not Stormers out of the Springbok team. Lets have a look CURRIE CUP..............BULLS, VODACOM CUP.........BULLS....... SUPER 14 CUP..........BULLS. Meyer did a great job for the Bulls and I think he deserves to be at least the assistant coach in place of DICKHEAD MUIR.

  • JR - 2010-07-30 14:31

    Julle kan se wat julle wil. Hy moes in eerste plek die coach gewees het. As hulle hom nie bevark het nie was hy nou nosteeds die bulle se coach. Hy het ons sukses in die s14 begin en die bulle se grondslag gele vir wat hulle vandag is. Die bulle se huidige coach is goed en hy het aangegeaan met die resep en die jong spelers behou wat Heyneke getrek het. Div in teendeel het niks met die span gedoen nie.

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