Do-or-die Boks down All Blacks

2011-08-20 19:07

Port Elizabeth - The Springboks put their bodies on the line to record an 18-5 victory over the All Blacks in a bruising encounter in Port Elizabeth.

Morne Steyn was back to his best as fiery South Africa rediscovered the art of winning by defeating a second string New Zealand.

The ace goal kicker went into the match battling to remain first-choice fly-half under pressure from World Cup winner Butch James and put down a marker by kicking five penalties and a drop goal.

Bloodied and battered flank Heinrich Brussow was another star as the Springboks shrugged off three consecutive losses in the southern hemisphere championship to end on an upbeat note.

New Zealand, showing 12 changes from the team that defeated Australia in Auckland two weeks ago, deserved more than a Richard Kahui try for their first-half efforts.

The All Blacks now head for Brisbane and a title decider against the Wallabies with the Springboks finishing bottom and looking towards the daunting challenge of becoming the first side to successfully defend their world title next month in New Zealand.

South Africa defended superbly in the first half at a packed Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium and led 15-5 at half-time thanks to four penalties and a drop goal from Steyn.

The All Blacks attacked from the kick-off and were deprived of a 50-second try by a superb tackle from Bryan Habana which prevented Jimmy Cowan going over.

A Jaque Fourie intercept salvaged another dangerous situation for the under-pressure Springboks before Steyn slotted his first penalty with eight minutes gone.

Superb South Africa scrummaging led to New Zealand being penalised again and Steyn once more made light of the challenging distance to guide the ball between the posts.

Brussow was forced to leave the field for nine minutes to have medical attention to his bloodied face and Ashley Johnson took his place.

Another Steyn penalty on 18 minutes gave the home team a flattering nine-point advantage with New Zealand having more possession and territory, but unable to make it count.

South Africa full-back Patrick Lambie went off midway through the half before Steyn lifted green and gold spirits with his fourth successful penalty followed a few minutes later by a trademark drop goal.

The All Blacks finally got off the mark five minutes before half-time by winning a line-out and slick handling and an inside break set up Kahui, but Colin Slade failed to convert.

Steyn went close with a second drop-goal attempt just before the break, but South Africa could be well satisfied after their best 40 minutes of the Tri-Nations season.

Cowan crossed the try-line seven minutes into the second half but the score was ruled out after the television match official correctly noted that the scoring pass from Israel Dagg was forward.

The only points of the half came on the hour mark as Steyn made it five out of five when presented with a penalty chance.


South Africa - Penalties: Morne Steyn (5). Drop goal: Steyn
New Zealand - Try: Richard Kahui.


South Africa:
15 Pat Lambie, 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Jaque Fourie, 12 Jean de Villiers, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Morne Steyn, 9 Fourie du Preez, 8 Pierre Spies, 7 Willem Alberts, 6 Heinrich Brüssow, 5 Victor Matfield (captain), 4 Bakkies Botha, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Gurthro Steenkamp

Substitutes: 16 John Smit, Tendai Mtawarira, CJ van der Linde, Danie Rossouw, Ashley Johnson, Francois Hougaard, Butch James

New Zealand:
15 Israel Dagg, 14 Isaia Toeava, 13 Richard Kahui, 12 Sonny Bill Williams, 11 Hosea Gear, 10 Colin Slade, 9 Jimmy Cowan, 8 Liam Messam, 7 Adam Thomson, 6 Jerome Kaino, 5 Ali Williams, 4 Samuel Whitelock, 3 John Afoa, 2 Keven Mealamu (captain), 1 Tony Woodcock

Substitutes: 16 Andrew Hore, 17 Ben Franks, 18 Jarrad Hoeata, 19 Victor Vito, 20 Andy Ellis, 21 Piri Weepu, 22 Cory Jane


  • Mark Stevenson - 2011-08-20 19:08

    What I learned today is that: Brussow must be in the team because it is the Brussow , Styen combination that wins us games. Habanna although defending well WILL cost us points because he STILL comes of his wing. And I have never seen a All Black side make so many mistakes and they got close to our line way to many times and if this was not the so called B team I think they might have converted some of those into points. I don’t think the AB no:10 will ever play again, he was CR.P. BUT WE WON!!! BRING BACK THE CUP BOKKE!!!!!!!!

      I Like Everything - 2011-08-20 19:13

      I like when the Springboks win.. I really do

      CliffB - 2011-08-20 19:15

      Mark Stevenson : Habana saved a few tries today - you cannot argue that point !!!

      Neil - 2011-08-20 19:16

      With the All Blacks and their BIG MOUTHS they were cruisin for a bruisin!! Well Done BOKKE!!!!

      malcz11 - 2011-08-20 19:18

      what do u expect habana 2 do when their is a overlap u idiot!! if u think ur so smart why arent u in that jersey

      René Müller - 2011-08-20 19:22

      A pity there should only be one MotM, Jaque Fourie, Bakkies, Brussow, Morne to name a few! The Boks had their backs against the wall and would have beaten any team on tAhe day. Bismark looked quite peed-off to be subbed by JS! Morne, hate him or love him, he is the fly-half for the big games. Pitty Lambie got hurt but the change in back-line was not affected. Hougie is such a live-wire, unbelievable player! Very proud of the Bokke!

      sinvol - 2011-08-20 19:22

      Liverpool vs Arsenal was a better game to watch

      Mark Stevenson - 2011-08-20 19:24

      MMM CLiffB, sorry if you can't read buddy BUT I said he defended well! And malcz11 stick to talking to rugby as I have ZERO interest in your opinion on me, HE should stay on his wing FULL stop, if there is an overlap the cover defence should get them! If you do not agree with that then you know so little about rugby you should rather go watch netball!

      cupid - 2011-08-20 19:28

      I wouldnt be suprised if PDV said this week that 'we won on the score board but not on the field' lol.

      René Müller - 2011-08-20 19:30

      @Maori, are the the toothless wonder I saw in the stands with your fake 'all black' jersey??? Shame, where's Cheap Krok aka Chief Kokkie

      Gomez - 2011-08-20 19:31

      Well done BOKKE!I knew you could!!!

      Maori - 2011-08-20 19:31

      Still in PE - AB's for life!!

      realist - 2011-08-20 19:38

      Mark don't get too excited. This was the All Blacks B team and they still ran circles around the proteas. But the scoreboards says that they won, so well done.

      chappy - 2011-08-20 19:39

      I've been saving these through the week, had a good feeling about today: Quote by Rob Jones “..the Boks dont have any style at the moment……All blacks by 10 to 15 points” Qote by SLG “..these are not the Springboks. That era ended long time ago.” Quote by Skek “The only team that can beat the AB's is the AB's B team.” Quote by Joe_public “The Boks will lose on Saturday with Matfield as captain and Smit on the bench.” Quote by Bubba_x “Boks to loose again, gainst the All Blacks B team” Quote by Zumagabe “the All Blacks will eat the BAFOKKE blommetjies for breakfast” Quote by TheBoss “The Boks will loose by 18. We will speak again after the game”…. OK, so speak? Quote by JohnnyBB “..All Blacks 27 - 12 PDV-Proteas.... ............Go All Blacks...!!!!” Quote by Matthew “Springbok Rugby a thing of the Past!!! “ Quote by Tired “The AB's second string to win by 15 pts” Lots more, but anyway..... Go Bokke!! Your true supporters will always be hopeful!

      realist - 2011-08-20 19:43

      I apologise for all the negative comments I posted about the proteas. Pieter has it right by appointing all the oldies and the quota players. Go proteas.

      Howzitekse - 2011-08-20 19:46

      Great display by the Bokke. Habana cover tackle at the start possibly the most important moment of the game. If AB's had scored then, it could have been a different game. Two players who apear to be getting some form back - Spies was good in the line-outs, and Guthro scrummed well. FDP was the weakest link, and we were still unable to score. Brussow is by far the most important guy in the squad. Pity Lambie went off, as we lost a bit of attacking option, but Hougaard hungry and able replacement.

      chappy - 2011-08-20 19:53

      Realist - firstly; name one quota player on the park today? Secondly - we saw what happened when we sent young blood overseas. Clearly you are out of your depth and should move back to the shallow end of the gene pool.

      realist - 2011-08-20 19:57

      Are you the ignorant cliff from idols?

      Sjamies - 2011-08-20 19:58

      Shut up Maori, what do you know... Looser!

      realist - 2011-08-20 20:02

      chappy. Quota players: Peterson, Habana (even though he saved a try), Johnson (no strength). Sorry you do not have enough knowledge about rugby to notice this.

      Dwarslat - 2011-08-20 20:55

      Mense, hier kom 'n taai wereld beker. Ek het na die Bokke se wedstryd ook die laaste 35 minute van die Franse se wedstryd teen Ierland gekyk. Die Franse lyk uiters gedug.

      Spyker May - 2011-08-20 21:01

      No Mark - we "learned" NOTHING. Vet-Smit and Paw-paw-Peter de Fruitcake, is still there, so I am afraid we have learnt nothing... The flower-boys (ie Proteas), should have taken this game, with at least a 25 points margin. It was the worst All Black performance I can remember - even worse than Durban 2009.

      Neil - 2011-08-20 21:04

      @Dwarslat: Stem 100% saam met jou, hier kom 'n taai wereld beker. Die franse is op 'n ander vlak as wat hulle gewoonlik is.

      Jonathan - 2011-08-20 21:41

      @realist. A quota player is player in the squad because of his skin colour instead of merit. All players of colour in our squad are there on merit. Only qouta is P Divvy. Sounds like YOU don't have enough rugby knowledge, chop.

      nzbro - 2011-08-20 22:19

      well done boks. good game. pity about our missing 6 opportunities to score and Im sure the TMO will be spoken to about acting outside his boundries.(Its a pity the TMO in 2007 did not say the say thing then about france too).Never mind we move on.Our team have shown how easy it was to penetrate bok defences so work to be done on that.The AB players have shown that they are qualified to be selected so we look forward to some good rugby next time we meet boks IF we meet on OUR home soil this time. I'm sure Wales, Samoa, etc will be very interested to view your now revealed gameplan. Enjoy your victory guys you've waited long enough.It sure feels nice does'nt it.C ya next time...

      Magmansa - 2011-08-20 22:33

      @nzbro Um our "now" revealed gameplan? This has been our game plan for years, opposing coaches always prepare for this.....

      chappy - 2011-08-21 07:56

      NZBro: The TMO was asked quite clearly "Try? Yes or no?" by the ref. At NO point did the ref only ask about the grounding. The TMO just happened to mention the grounding and asked then if he wanted further info. He was not stepping outside of his boundaries. If the ref had only asked about the grounding then I would agree with you.

      Jou Ma - 2011-08-21 09:42

      I'm not a Sharks fan, but Bismarck kicked butt. Now we must just get rid of John Smit!!!

      hawk - 2011-08-21 10:44

      To nzbro. You should be very worried because you will get to play France again, and you know what happenned last time. CHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKERS

      DeonL - 2011-08-22 10:51

      I agree that Habanna defended well for a while, but he did try to intercept again and they nearly scored. If it was not for a knock on and the forward pass we might have been crying today.

  • Marcell - 2011-08-20 19:09

    Dankie Morne Steyn! En die meeste van julle w@nkers wou hom nie eens in jul span gehad het nie.

      Mark Stevenson - 2011-08-20 19:11

      I don't rank him, BUT we can't pay without him becuase pionts on the board is WAY more important then if he can break a line!

      Logoll - 2011-08-20 19:14

      Steyn is only good when the forwards give him front foot ball. That has been proven over and over again in both Super 15 and test matches. The forwards today is what won us the match. In NZ when the fields are wet and we maybe don't get the upper hand then Steyn will be all over the place again. His confidence goes as soon as you put him under pressure and then so does his goal kicking.

      Marcell - 2011-08-20 19:21

      Lyk my jy het al klaar die bodem van jou papsak gesien.

      mycentswrth - 2011-08-20 19:54

      Despite Morne's kicking game today, my choise would still be Lambie. He is also a pretty good kicker and he does attack the line, which MS does not, and create openings for other runners. If the penalty count is low, we are in trouble with MS. Brussouw for president..what a player. Also, good game from Habana.

      Bulldozer - 2011-08-20 20:09

      Logoll, all flyhalves are only good when they get frontfoot ball idiot.

      Stompies - 2011-08-20 20:40

      MAORI - hou oud is jy!!

      nzbro - 2011-08-20 22:41

      @Maori ---bro please delete your childish comments asap and learn to accept defeat graciously like a gentleman.This is not how kiwis respond on a loss. No disrespect to you but it does not make AB supporters look good at all.We take it on the chin and get on with it.There will be a next time we face the Boks perhaps on our NZ soil and the result will be different.In anticipation of your support to my request, Thank you.

      Roland - 2011-08-20 23:41

      @NZbro you make it sound as if "Maori" is your fellow countryman. News to you is he is not, he is someone who is upset that Man Utd has lost, he is a slippery traitor that shames his countrymen like JP Pietersen, Bryan Habana, Juan de Jongh, Chilliboy Rhalepele, Odwa Ndungane, Breyton Paulse, Chester Williams, and many other players of colour who would give their lives for their country and it's beloved Springboks. SIES!!!

      nzbro - 2011-08-21 01:56

      Roland I know maori is one of our loyal SA'n AB fans and I am merely pointing out to him how WE kiwis in NZ behave in a loss.You Roland should accept that not everyone will agree with your loyalties or point of view so let everybody support whom they want to.Thats democracy mate.

      Willem Swanepoel - 2011-08-21 19:48

      @Logoll.Wow really Logoll, any flyhalf with a crappy forward side cannot do his job. Look at Lambie when he played at NZ. He couldnt do a thing because of a crappy forward pack. I just wish you guys would stop being so pathetic negative about Steyn. Lambie is too young to be a flyhalf at this time and Butch James is a lose cannon, Steyn is the guy who we need for this world cup, someone who can keep the points comming in.

  • BlueRaven - 2011-08-20 19:12

    Ole ole ole ole ole! Go Victor! Captain Victorious! Brussouw, klein botteltjie groot gif! Bakkies jou ou doring! Ketjing! Morne jou punte masjien! Go Bokke! My joy knows no bounds! You Beauties!

      BlueRaven - 2011-08-20 19:31

      Who needs John Smit? Over rated! Go Victor! Oh yes Jaque Fourie great game! Habana great save! Last but not least PE you ROCK! What a player 23!!!

      Kaapie - 2011-08-20 20:11

      Actually I thought Victor was missing for long periods! What is disconcerting for me is how easily the Blacks unlocked the defence. Frankly the Bokke were lucky not to giveaway more tries and our inabilility to create tries.. I think we lack creativity in the backline.

      BlueRaven - 2011-08-20 20:31

      Ja nee Kaapie, die glas is altyd half leeg ne? Shame. Bokke you beauties! Victor you are the man!

      fixit - 2011-08-20 20:45

      send out a sos for a inside centre !we cant afford so many missed tackles

      BlueRaven - 2011-08-20 21:24

      Vir "ou fossiele" is hulle glad nie sleg nie. Tweede game in 5-8 weke.. GO BOKKE! You beauties!

      Rugganut - 2011-08-20 22:29

      Kaapie, scoring tries is not part of the game plan...this is very evident from players holding onto the ball and going to ground at first contact to recycle the ball, even when there are overlaps...pity because we have the ability to score tries. SO SO SO GOOD TO SEE THEM WIN...I am happy for the team and coaches (and I am not going to lie, I loved it too)...and to all the people out there that said that we suck and would lose the game (incl those Saffas that support the AB's), IN YOUR FACES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How good was Brussouw and Bismarck and I like the way Hougie is willing to stay on his feet and step off both feet in an attempt to break the defensive line...he is also solid on defense, quick and strong on the ground (I think he managed to turn over a ball). The defense is STILL a concern (they managed to slip through too easily on a few occassions)...I mean compare our defensive efforts to the way the AB's defended against Oz, they were like the great wall of China...and those up and unders (which land straight into opposition hands, handing over possession) should be removed from the game plan!!!! If we improve these 2 aspects of our game, we have a definite chance of retaining our title.

  • Jackool - 2011-08-20 19:12

    Thanx ref for finally noticing those All Black forward passes...about time.

      Macho Mike - 2011-08-20 19:16

      Spot on Jackool, i'm glad somebody else has noticed how often the All Blacks cheat by forward passing.

      Frans Smith - 2011-08-20 20:50

      he still missed the first one

      coolio_101 - 2011-08-21 11:45

      And now PDV is the best coach in the world... The boks will win the world cup.... John Smit is a national hero...... The All Blacks r chokers.... No worries in the bok camp.... Boks r peaking...... Is julle amal jas???? Klomp draadsitters bok supporters.........

      GraemeBB - 2011-08-21 12:37

      @Coolio - what did you want the supporters to say and do? Just asking, so that the entire SA can earn your respect. You know how important that is to us!

  • CliffB - 2011-08-20 19:13

    All the stupid , ignorant ALL BLACK supporters in SA - TAKE that , SALLY JILL WILLIAMS is a flop !!! - and ok - Brussouw shut me up today !!!

      Maori - 2011-08-20 19:25

      The All Blacks did not lose on the score board! Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! Div is the best coach!Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! The bookies will win the world cup!Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! Danie Rossouw is the best!!Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! Henry gave Div a chance to avoid a white wash! Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! The bokkies will win the cup! Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! The bokkies can score tries! Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! Morne Steyn will be the world cup coach! Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!

      michaelx - 2011-08-20 19:28


      slg - 2011-08-20 19:38

      They were testing some second-string players, Cliff. This is not their first-string team. Michael, hardly. The lack of fitness, strength and expert coaching was clear.

      Justin Hawthorne - 2011-08-20 21:08

      Most All Black supporters do NOT rate SBW at all.

      FJ2 - 2011-08-21 08:10

      Brussouw will shut you up 99% of the time.

  • Bokmad - 2011-08-20 19:13

    Forgotten how good it feels to win. Good committment, Rassies defense strategy seems to be a lot better. If I had to pick a man of the match, either Brussouw or Jaque fourie. Habana and Bismark played well too. Shows how much the ABs rely on Mccaw and Carter. Great result, great way to start the WC.

      Bokmad - 2011-08-20 19:17

      And even better, they go home with doubt in thier minds and go to NZ with our tails up.

      Logoll - 2011-08-20 19:20

      Rassie is good but the defensive strategy coaching is actually that of Jacques Nienaber.

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-08-20 19:48

      Jaque Nienaber @Bokmad. You would have seen him running onto the field at times, blue peak cap, water bottles, ear-piece. He is an on-field physio type member of the coaching team as well, he constantly speaks to the players from the sidelines, and when he delivers water. :)

      jim - 2011-08-20 22:13

      And leave with your tails between your legs

      Bokmad - 2011-08-20 22:52

      I stand corrected - it was Rassie that brought JN in. Good to see the improvement though.

  • Lewsi - 2011-08-20 19:14

    Yes, they did win.....thanks to one Bulls player with considerable help from the ref......ho hum......

      Marcell - 2011-08-20 19:18

      100%. Veldsman kan ook niks reg doen nie.

      Logoll - 2011-08-20 19:27

      And neither can you Marcell, as the TV ref was actually Johann Meuwesen

      FJ2 - 2011-08-21 08:22

      With considerable help from the ref? Get a rulebook and study it. This useless bum from the Northern Hemisphere just couldn’t keep up with the pace of the game and were seemingly blind when it came to obstructive running by the AB’s and their constant infringements at rucks. He can’t even spot a blatant offside at a maul, and you are saying he helped us? The AB's should have been punished a lot more. Also, Morne was good, but far from perfect. I thought his tactical kicking was mostly pretty crap, considering how good he can be when he's really on song. Regarding @jim's comment above: Start practising to get those champagne corks back in the bottles, buddy.

      fullmoon - 2011-08-21 09:27

      I saw 15 Boks on the field, ...kinda sounds like sour grapes lewis...champagne anyone?

  • Macho Mike - 2011-08-20 19:14

    Well done Bokke, you were great. To Mr Sean "Never won the RWC" Fitzpatrick, I guess the Boks did step up today, and your boys stepped down. First signs of the All Blacks cracking - I do hope so.

      EJ - 2011-08-20 21:08

      so are you saying a B team are expected to show signs of cracking or are SA standards fallen that low after 3 straight defeats?

      MJ - 2011-08-21 04:10

      Sean Fitz-Patrick has won a WC. Sorry mate.

  • Makutu - 2011-08-20 19:15

    Desperate times call for desperate measures! Shows how overrated John Smit's leadership is. Victor Matfield MUST lead the boks! Willem Alberts, Pierre Spies and Heinrich Brussouw are a magnificent loose-trio combination. No need for Juan Smith. All Blacks were out-tackled!

      Logoll - 2011-08-20 19:24

      Don't agree, Alberts was nowhere to be seen on the field today. He hardly made any tackles either. The only thing he did prove was how overrated and useless Danie Rossouw is at flank. If Andries Bekker wasn't injured Rossouw wouldn't even be in the squad I think.

      thyspelser - 2011-08-20 19:25

      If Smit is to stupid to see that he is past pensioen, then Helium should have the balls to fire him. And PLEASE LOCKS AND LOOSSIES are not to be mixed!!! Bismarck, Brussouw, Alberts...great as we all of a sudden had a pack competing at the rucks and mauls and creating turnovers. Defence could scramble as John Smit was not there to miss tackles and not have the pace to scramble on the centre/wing. PDV surely you and your clowns should now see the light.

      Makutu - 2011-08-20 19:25

      Alberts did so many many big hits! him and Bakkies. What game were you watching? My GOSH! Do you have only one eye?

      Makutu - 2011-08-20 19:28

      Oh, and Heinrich Brussouw is the only player in the world to have won 4 games out of 4 against the All blacks. WHAT A PLAYER!

      Makutu - 2011-08-21 03:34

      My apologies TheBush. lol! I always get called names here. I thought that it was the norm.

      Jou Ma - 2011-08-21 11:29

      @thyspelser. Did Smit play?

  • aiseas - 2011-08-20 19:15

    good win good win, but i just dont want this to be the future for rugby, we need the game to grow. very well played though but cmon 5 penalties and a drop kick?

  • cupid - 2011-08-20 19:20

    Congrats to the Boks, they derseved to win. Handling errors from the ABs was poor, poor finishing and could of been different if they didnt stray thoses passes. Many try opportunites gone begging. The boks stuck to thier game plan and took the points on offer. Great defence. Its a long due win for the fans. ABs made just TOO many handling errors. looked disorganised. Slade was just not on his game today. He will learn though. You would expect that from a team trying out combinations. Its now clear who Henry will take. Dagg, Corey Jane will be my picks in the wings. Looking forward to the final game. Points difference will make it difficult now for Aus to win it as they were relying the Boks to get a 15+ gap. They need to thrash the ABs in Brisbane

      Christo Present - 2011-08-20 21:11

      what r u talking about. They both hav 9 points. its actually a final now. Its interesting that nobody says something about the coach. This whole tri-nations you called for his head while he stuck to his plan and told everybody that he is on track with his plan. I think his plan is falling in place. Well done PdV

      FJ2 - 2011-08-21 08:28

      @Christo Present: I also would like to say "well done" to PdV. But I still think that he made a mistake regarding his 2 assistant coaches - they're simply not the best he could have picked.

  • SAFFA-CAT - 2011-08-20 19:26

    This proud, delighted and 'still cautiously optimistic' Bok supporter only has TWO things to say: (1) If Dan Carter picks up an injury, NZ can R.I.P, they will be finished, over, buried......." (2) SBW - pffffffffffffffffft. Enjoy the evening folk - and for the so-called Bok 'fans' who sound more like haters, who have spewed negativity on here all week: I hope you chaps aren't celebrating this victory (even against a B+ Kiwi team) because you DON'T DESERVE 2....

      Maori - 2011-08-20 19:29

      The All Blacks did not lose on the score board! Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! Div is the best coach!Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! The bookies will win the world cup!Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! Danie Rossouw is the best!!Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! Henry gave Div a chance to avoid a white wash! Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! The bokkies will win the cup! Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! The bokkies can score tries! Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! Morne Steyn will be the world cup coach! Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!

      Sjamies - 2011-08-20 20:17

      Again, no valid comments and input Maori. Night night sweet pea...

      GraemeBB - 2011-08-20 20:39

      @Maori - you were big mouth before the game. Now that you lost, you just cant take it - hahahahaha. And if you have writen off the Boks for the RWC.

      CliffB - 2011-08-21 11:35

      GraemeBB : Why do you guys bother to argue with that clown of a Moari , He talks crap 99.9% of the time !!!

      Staalbal - 2011-08-22 09:59

      @ Maori The All Blacks lost. HAHAHAHAHA

  • Mark Stevenson - 2011-08-20 19:27

    I wonder what the story is going to be about Bismark being P...d Off with being taken off! If I know Div he probably drop him from the WC squad!

      Howzitekse - 2011-08-20 19:39

      Childish/foolish display by him. What purpose did he think it serves?

      tau999heavy - 2011-08-20 20:14

      At@ Howzitekse: Its called frustration, not right, but understandable from him in his position.

      Frans Smith - 2011-08-20 20:54

      he looked fitter going off the field than smit coming on. LOL

      Jou Ma - 2011-08-21 11:37

      I agree with Bismarck. In the past, you only went off when you were injured. Now you go off when you're tired. And yes, Frans Smith, he looked fitter than tellytubby John Smith, who can only run from loose scrum to loosescrum, for ten minutes.

  • slg - 2011-08-20 19:34

    The All Blacks are fitter, stronger and better coached. It's obvious. Unless they sabotage themselves again, they should win the WC.

  • EJ - 2011-08-20 19:34

    c'mon let be realistic..."five penalties and a drop goal " Is this the best the Boks A team have to offer at home against a B team? I was expecting a similar 40-7 scoreline that the ABs gave the Boks B team.

      StangV2_0 - 2011-08-21 01:21

      We beat NZ in 1995 with a drop goal. England won their Wc with a drop goal. And in 2007 we won with the boot of Percy.. So whats so wrong with, and I quote, "five penalties and a drop goal "....??? Were they not forced errors because of the brilliant play by our pack of forwards? Wtf do u thing H Brussouw and the gang were doing all night???? Oh.. And having carter and macaw out the team dont make it a NZ B Team.. So what u seggesting is that if carter and macaw get injured or out of WC the NZ immediately become a B Team? We didnt have schalk, F Steyn or Juan Smith to mention a few...

      Bulls always - 2011-08-21 14:27

      7 guys out makes it rotation, 21 guys out makes it the B team

  • Kapster - 2011-08-20 19:40

    The Boks won courtesy of the AB's making too many mistakes. has to be the most boring rugby match that I have seen the Boks play in years and there MS kicks again. MS not once even passed the ball to his centres. And the Boks not once even attempted to score a try with the back line and look what backline we have. Thank goodness the class off 2007 is almost over and so will PdV, worst BOK rugby on par with 2003.

  • muzi mbokane - 2011-08-20 19:43

    Let's not be too much excited, bear in mind that NZ fielded a second string team.

      Bloody Agent - 2011-08-20 22:01

      They left out 2 players?

      Magmansa - 2011-08-21 02:42

      @Agent Carter, Mcaw, Reid, Nonu, Smith, Muliaina, Guildford, Sivivatu, Thorne. That's not 2......

      Magmansa - 2011-08-21 02:44

      @Agent Carter, Mcaw, Reid, Nonu, Smith, Muliaina, Guildford, Sivivatu, Thorne. That's not 2......

  • realist - 2011-08-20 19:48

    Since when is Port Elizabeth Stadium known as Mandela Bay Stadium. The name of your city is being changed without you even knowing it. Howzit, Heidi.

  • Rob Rabbit - 2011-08-20 19:52

    That was a win - great - but we were boring and Fourie du Preez a shadow of the player some believe he was.

      mycentswrth - 2011-08-20 20:13

      spot on.

  • Anneck - 2011-08-20 20:05

    This win means ab-so-lute-ly nothing to me, sorry guys. Don't go singing the Boks' praises; no Carter, no McCaw, no Nonu, no Sivivatu, no Muliaina... And STILL not a single try scored either!

      Frans Smith - 2011-08-20 20:29

      spot on Anneck - that is what is worrying me - we are hoping to win a world cup on penalties and drop kicks. The more experienced opposition players will not be so under pressure to commit offences within kicking range. Great as Morne was, nobody else seems to be creating anything that looks like points? To beat a full trength first 15 All Black side or Aussie side, we would have to be able to score at least 3 tries? To beat SA, just dont give them penalties..simple as that!

      Anneck - 2011-08-20 20:31 Smith, no Reed...

      StangV2_0 - 2011-08-20 20:53

      No Burger.. No Juan Smith.. No Frans Steyn.. Pat lambie subbed in first half due to injury.. Seriously dude?? If this NZ team was so weak then why was Piri Weepu starting on the bench? just about every player on that field tonight will be in the world cup.

      Anneck - 2011-08-20 20:53

      I agree Frans. Even scarier thought is that's all Morne Steyn is good for: kicking. Steyn is not my first choice flyhalf. Question is do we have better flyhalves? Lambie? Grant? James?

      Frans Smith - 2011-08-20 21:48

      i hear you, but we dont have much choice. personally i think lambie should stay at fullback. i think he will be great allround at no 15. i think we should take both steyn and james to the wc and depending on the conditions and the opposition, we could play either - problem is that for each one there should be an established game plan practised over and over in real tests leading up to now? i think steyn knows his role and his game plan...but butch has had no game time and we are rusty when it comes to running with the ball in hand.

      Anneck - 2011-08-20 22:00

      Well Frans, I think we may just need Frans Steyn as well? Because if it's our kicking we would be relying on, Frans Steyn can handle the shots from our own 10 metre line (2009, Hamilton).

      Roland - 2011-08-20 23:01

      @Frans Smith....uhm...didn't we win two (2) World Cups on penalties and dropped goals?? All Black rugby doesn't win World Cups (okay in '87 it did). You have to graft, win the set pieces (esp the lineouts and steal some too) kick your points and more (more dropped goals) and tackle tackle tackle till you have Carter kicking the ball anywhere (even backwards) so he doesn't get hurt (we all know he crumbles under pressure). All this and then you have a shout at bringing the cup home. The World Cup isn't Superrrrrrugby (made for TV - NZ rugby), its the real thing that has been played for more than a century.

  • Zukisani - 2011-08-20 20:06

    i'm a huge football fan ,but any of our national teams , i support fully ,even our netball team, but what i saw here in Uitenhage from coloured and white South Africans was disgusting how can you support another country ?that was a disgrace sies!!! now i know if England played bafana here in Port Elizabeth, England would enjoy the majority of support .

      Frans Smith - 2011-08-20 20:33

      if you are a born south african, living still in sa, how can you support an opposition team - these are traitors and in a older society where pride and loyalty still counted, they would have been shot. Even though some of us can be critical, come saturday and the boks play, we are behind them the full 80 minutes. These people should be sorted out by their own people. Disgusting.

  • realist - 2011-08-20 20:08

    The ref was definitely the protea secret weapon.

  • Jan - 2011-08-20 20:09

    @Maori, what happened to the boxer today?? BOKKE FOR EVER, now go on and bring back the WC

  • haha - 2011-08-20 20:13

    I am happy we won, but thought we could have ran the ball more. Morne Steyn had a better game, but he should attack the advantage line more, I know he can ran a gap, but looked scared to carry the ball. John Smit is way overrated and Bismarck deserved to have been pissed off..he had an awesome game , why replace him? Habana is the weak link in the back line.

  • Mark - 2011-08-20 20:15

    Great for the Bokke to have won, pity that one cannot hear the hakka, a great rugby tradition.

  • mycentswrth - 2011-08-20 20:17

    Thx, we'll take the win. BUT, not even close to scoring a try. our backline totally out of sync, position, static, no rythm at all, scrambled defence by individuals. why can't we release the ball when tackled. look how good the AB do it. Gt rid of Dick M...his name says it all!

  • GottheTshirt - 2011-08-20 20:20

    Well done Bokke. You showed good aggresion, a controlled Bakkies and Steyn in the right game plan, Brussouws turnovers and good fence succeeded in dominating the ABs physically. Nobody missed Richie as the replacement 7 got away with the same "innocent", who me?, dirty marginal play mastered by Mcaw.

  • namibia24 - 2011-08-20 20:21

    The All Blacks lost this game we most cernly did not win it!! If it was not for Morne's boot we would all be crying now. Habana wa brilliant in defense. The AB backline is certainly the best in the world at the moment, just the way that they use the short side wing to take the pass from the scrum half and creating an extra man makes coomon sense (cant understand why the bok couch have not picked up on this) and the angles that they run is sintlating rugby, We were lucky and we have the bruises to show. Also our forwards needs to stand back in our backline and run as support and not take part in the initial move forward. I really feel for Bismark the way they are treating him is BS!!!!Thanks Bokkefor a win!!!!!!!

  • Muffyforu - 2011-08-20 20:25

    As a BIG BOK and PdV supporter as good as this result is for moral, lets not get over exited remeber how the AB and Wallabies kicked our B team! This was a AN B team and we could not score a try! Its not going to happen but we need a Lambie at fly half and Chillie Boy at hooker., de Jong at centre with aplon at fullback. What ever happens in this world cup I think that we have the players to make an truly awsome team when all the old warhorses/hangers on have retired. So there is hope we just need to get through this world cup as best we can

      Frans Smith - 2011-08-20 20:39

      ag nee fo!@#k - waarvan praat jy? Wil jy se Chilliboy is beter as Bismark (rated the best in the world by many ex internationals?). Wil jy se de jong is beter as jean de villiers? Lambie is nie n flyhalf nie, hy is n fullback..fullstop. Pity he got injured. He looked the part at 15 and i like the way he joins in the attack...and he can pass unlike a previous showpony fullback.

      Mark Stevenson - 2011-08-20 22:13

      Muffyforu, You talking S..t buddy. I this Malema ? Only somone that has NO idea about rugby can talk this much rubbish!

  • Durbsguy - 2011-08-20 20:31

    What would happen if the Boks used all 15 players and not just the familiar 10

  • vaughn.l.jacobs - 2011-08-20 20:41

    ....i wish we played with 15 players, I heard P Spies was in the team, but where the hell was he ?! Go BOKS !!!

  • Muffyforu - 2011-08-20 20:42

    @ Frans Smith - My mother is a better Hooker than Bismark. And she is a religious woman

      Frans Smith - 2011-08-20 20:45

      you beter talk to her - a religious woman and a prostitute all in one...and that for money? Then again, why am i surprized, afterall she gave birth to you...or maybe you were just the afterbirth.

      Frans Smith - 2011-08-20 21:15

      so jy is n HOER se kind. Dit maak sin - LOL

  • Fanie - 2011-08-20 20:42

    Bismarck... Your behaviour when asked to leave the field was disgraceful........You managed to bring our beautiful sport into disrepute. Remember, NO one is bigger than the GAME and your attitude determines your altitude,,,,,Grow up Fanie

      Ken J May - 2011-08-20 20:50

      Spot on Fanie!

  • pants - 2011-08-20 20:45

    Maori you wish you were rather than a tick addicted toothless wonder....

  • Muffyforu - 2011-08-20 20:55

    @ Farns Smit - Well I maybe a afterbirth but at least i have a brain unlike you but theat happens when your mother and father are brother and sister you inbred prick

      Frans Smith - 2011-08-20 21:09

      you say: Well i maybe a afterbirth...LOL - should be "an afterbirth" and you go on.."unlike you but theat happens..LOL - should be "that" and you go on..."when your mother and father are brother..LOL - should it not be "and father" and you go on..."and sister you inbred prick" LOL - no comment brother.. you maybe have a brain.... but it is a very small one. LOL

      Frans Smith - 2011-08-20 21:11

      OH and it should be "and brother" and "Frans", not Farns? Put the dop away, it is still early - it makes you more stupid!

      BiggestBull - 2011-08-21 08:06

      Muffy = idiot.

  • Rob Jones - 2011-08-20 20:56

    I thought the All Blacks played poorly yet created at least six chances where they could of scored one where they did. Im amazed at the lack of Knowledge by the Rugby Journalist Rob who said the video ref correctly ruled the cowan try out. As a referee I know that the Video Ref by law cant rule on the foirward pass in the feild of play. He can only rule on the what happens over the try line. Therefore that try had to be awarded by him forward pass or not as there was nothing wrong with the grounding. It was the refs fault that he or the linesman that they missed that. This sort of refereeing decision could only happen in South Africa where your officia;s are so biased, and take no notice of the rules I thought the Springbok backs look woeful and rudderless never looked like scoring a try. If the Bok Supporters think you win this World Cup with that sort play. I believe you have another think coming. 5 penalties and a drop goal wowwwwwweeee South Arfican rugby is on top of its game !!. Even though this was an All Balck team with eleven changes missing carter and Mccaw. We were able to cut through your backs like a knife through butter. The bad thing for the Boks is you really cant play much better that is what you have got. The All Blacks as we all know can ,and will play much better than that.

      Leftyloosy - 2011-08-20 21:16

      sure you are a ref...there is also something called common sense. the try was not a try because it was a forward pass.Yes the video ref cant make call about what happens infield and that is not what happened. The video ref told the ref the try was fine. he then asked if the ref would like any other info about what happened before the goal line the ref said yes and he told him there was a forward pass. now before you try to pat yourself for been so smart you are, you and "rugby journalist Rob" are both wrong. At no time did the video ref make a ruling he told the ref what he saw and the ref made the ruling. he used the technology and info he had to make the right decision. Maybe theres a reason he is an international ref and you are not. use it dont use it.

      jim - 2011-08-20 21:45

      @leftyloosy No, these things have to be written down as RULES. Else there is no consistency whatsoever. The reason there is an outcry about this is because you can go through and find infringements in an awful lot of video replays which have not ben seen by the ref. Rule on all or rule on none. Either way you better state exactly what you can rule on.

      Leftyloosy - 2011-08-20 22:32

      @jim - really? i didnt know thank you Jim! what planet have you been living on, there is no consistency even when the rules are written in the rule book. because of bull like "managing" the game, which be definition means allowing leeway in applying the rules so that the game can flow. spare the rod and spoil the child. if the refs just call the rules the way they are supposed to to and when they supposed to then the game will improve especially at the tackle and ruck. like it did a few seasons ago The big problem with this is that the northern teams prefer it like it is because it gives them a chance to spoil and slow the game down. which is why for the past 2 or 3 seasons they refused to change the way they blow the rules.

      Magmansa - 2011-08-20 23:03

      @Rob If the same video call was made in favour of the AB's in a knock out game every single kiwi would be saying "Good call ref". Imagine a world cup final being won with a forward pass and the ref not being able to do anything about it? The ref made the right call PERIOD, lets hope they change that stupid rule.

      jim - 2011-08-20 23:45

      @leftyloosy Video refs are there to decide on goal line decisions you mug. If they want to change this then fine. As the rules stand the video ref was completely out of line. There are a million examples of clear infringements not being mentioned by vid ref before the goal line and ONE precedent setting example now. This is not an inconsistency, this is one ref getting it wrong. If you think it's fine that other vid refs specifically don't mention infringements before the line, yet this guy does and it's all fine then you are an idiot.

      FJ2 - 2011-08-21 08:38

      @Rob Jones: NZ referees are seriously crap at the top level, but I see they're even worse lower down.

  • Rob Jones - 2011-08-20 20:59

    I thought the All Blacks played poorly yet created at least six chances where they could of scored one where they did. Im amazed at the lack of Knowledge by the Rugby Journalist Rob who said the video ref correctly ruled the cowan try out. As a referee I know that the Video Ref by law cant rule on the foirward pass in the feild of play. He can only rule on the what happens over the try line. Therefore that try had to be awarded by him forward pass or not as there was nothing wrong with the grounding. It was the refs fault that he or the linesman that they missed that. This sort of refereeing decision could only happen in South Africa where your officia;s are so biased, and take no notice of the rules I thought the Springbok backs look woeful and rudderless never looked like scoring a try. If the Bok Supporters think you win this World Cup with that sort play. I believe you have another think coming. 5 penalties and a drop goal wowwwwwweeee South Arfican rugby is on top of its game !!. Even though this was an All Balck team with eleven changes missing carter and Mccaw. We were able to cut through your backs like a knife through butter. The bad thing for the Boks is you really cant play much better that is what you have got. The All Blacks as we all know can ,and will play much better than that.

      runningman - 2011-08-20 23:05

      any win, whether its candy coated, or steeped in jealousy, such as yours, is still a win.Me, I would rather win poorly, than lose handsomely....your call...

  • sholoza - 2011-08-20 21:00

    @Maori, I am a huge supporter of rugby and over the past few weeks have read up on most of the articles posted on sport24 and the comments which follow. Well, from the comments I have read thus far, you sir, are without any doubt more clueless than a deaf and dumb squirrel high on meth. It took quite a bit of your innate ramblings of incessant twaddle for me to make this dig and to be fair I did try seeing things from your point of view but somehow I just couldn't seem to get my head that far up my ass. Every time I come across one of your posts I get the impression that you must be a big fan of fiction writing seeing as you make up almost anything, don’t you! Being stupid ‘Maori’, is NOT its own reward and it’s also very importantly to keep in mind that consciousness is not that annoying time between naps but rather a good time to think! The Maori are a proud people and you my dim witted chum are doing a sterling job in giving them a bad name.

  • Fanie - 2011-08-20 21:06

    Bismarck..........Your attitude today when you were asked to leave the field was disgraceful,,,,,,Your attitude brought our beautiful game into disrepute.....Remember No ONE is bigger than the GAME.......Your attitude determines your altitude.. You are a gifted player and please do not be remembered for the way in which you left the field but for whom you are... Grow Up

      !!Vrystaat!! - 2011-08-20 21:09

      @Fanie - I can never understand why a player playing a good game, must leave the field ? And considering who he was replaced with, hell I can think more people was a lot more unhappy than him to be replaced.

      Muffyforu - 2011-08-20 21:12

      Fanie agree totally he is the Stuart Broad or Ranoldo of SA Rugby, Thinks he is bigger than the team or game, just wait one day his time will come

  • Fanie - 2011-08-20 21:17

    Bismarck..........Your attitude when asked to leave the field was disgraceful.......Remember, NO one is bigger than the GAME........You brought our beautiful game into disrepute..........Your attitude determines your altitude... You are a gifted player but please do not be remembered for your attitude off the field but on the field....Grow Up

  • jim - 2011-08-20 21:20

    And yet the prices for the WC barely moved - nor should they. It's almost embarrassing to see all the excitement here. Yeah if NZ fields their B-team in a dead rubber, butchers 6 tries on the SA try line, misses every kick, and gets penalised to hell, you have a shot. In other words, good luck even making the final

  • jim - 2011-08-20 21:23

    And yet the prices for the WC barely moved - nor should they. It's almost embarrassing to see all the excitement here. Yeah if NZ fields their B-team in a dead rubber, butchers 6 tries on the SA try line, misses every kick, and gets penalised to hell, you have a shot. In other words, good luck even making the final

  • Sheldon - 2011-08-20 21:25

    talking about a all blacks b team . How many test caps has this so called b team under their belt. And please all blacks supporters provide me with a possible team for a world cup final. I am quite sure a lot of the guys that played today will be there.mealamu,weepu,sonny bill,woodcock, franks,dagg,thomson,williams,cory jane. please pray that cater stay fit.

      cupid - 2011-08-20 21:36

      its no different with steyn. I cant see the Boks getting any drop goals or penalites yet alone tries if Steyn is injured

      jim - 2011-08-20 22:00

      if u are talking about first choice then... mealamu - yes ,weepu - certainly not at 1st five,sonny bill - no,woodcock - yes, franks - yes ,dagg - maybe,thomson - no,williams,cory jane - maybe. A b-side doesnt mean EVERY player is the 2nd choice, but if you think this was close to our best side you are delusional

      jim - 2011-08-20 22:01

      oh and williams - no

  • Fanie - 2011-08-20 21:28

    Bismarck........Your attitude was disgraceful when asked to leave the field tody............Remember NO one is bigger than the GAME.....You are a gifted player, please be remembered for what you do on the field and not OFF the field.... Your attitude determines your altitude.......Grow Up

  • John - 2011-08-20 21:34

    Well done Bokke. You get an A+ for effort and an A+ for committment.

      Frans Smith - 2011-08-20 22:07

      and sadly an "F" for attack..or the lack of any attack?

  • Sky - 2011-08-20 21:37

    still not impress..and was new zealand second team

  • runningman - 2011-08-20 21:39

    its all about you and your country...what message can u possibly give to your children when you as an adult support a foreign team? yes, u are entitled to support whomever you like, courtesy of our freedom, a freedom hard fought for, how then can you brush away that same freedom...what did you fight for then?

      runningman - 2011-08-20 21:48

      iow, we fought and sacrificed so much, even our lives to be free south africans...then some of the same freedom fighters go and support foreign teams...we fought for south africa...why then sell her out when she is in your grasp?

  • - 2011-08-20 22:10

    Ratings Lambie - n/a Pietersen - 6 J Fourie - 8 J dVilliers - 7 Habana - 8 M Steyn - 7 F du Preez - 6 Spies - 6 Alberts - 6 Brussow - 9 Matfield - 8 Bakkies - 7 J du Plessis - 8 Bismark - 8 Guthro - 8 Smit - ? Beast - 6 CJ - ? Danie - 3 Johnson - 5 Hougard - 7

  • Julian - 2011-08-20 22:25

    I do love hypocrisy Last week when De Villiers stated that South Africa won on the field but were beaten on the scoreboard, all the Australian and New Zealand commentors kep saying how the scoreboard was all that mattered. Now all I'm hearing is how the All Blacks were the better team even though they lost by 13 points I respect the Blacks, but some of their fans need to learn how to accept a loss like the team did, with dignity Regardless, a well played performance by the Boks, will give us some much needed confidence going into the WC I especially loved hearing the Haka drowned out by the crowd, its always good for a team to know that its fans are behind it

  • Roland - 2011-08-20 22:41

    The All Blacks have found the perfect weapon to win the WC. They have perfected the forward pass, and realise that they get away with about 80% of them (am I seriously the only one who is seeing this?) Sonny-Bill Williams is the international specialist at the forward pass - 75% of his "offloads" are forward - but he's getting away with it, so if I was him, I'd keep on doing it. New Zealand have always been the experts at pushing the boundaries (legal or illegal). It's just not cricket...