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Boks remind us of their brawn

2011-08-20 22:17

Rob Houwing, Sport24 chief writer

Cape Town – More than a pinch of power, a dash of desperation, a lashing of raw courage ... put them together and the Springboks proved on Saturday that you can still turn them into a fairly lethal cocktail.

Why, it is even one heady enough to sometimes flatten the seemingly untouchable All Blacks, whatever the protests you may hear about the New Zealanders having left some key personnel at home for the Castle Tri-Nations encounter in Port Elizabeth.

The swagger with which the under-strength visitors started this Test match suggested strongly that they believed they could contemptuously run the more earthy Boks off their feet anyway – the fact that it didn’t happen, and that there was decent daylight on the scoreboard the other way as the final whistle sounded on a bone-crunching affair, is something for the defending World Cup champions to take considerable heart from.

New Zealand rugby, at the same time, will hardly be in mass mourning over this hiccup – they still scored the only try of the fixture and came within a whisker of one or two more – but at least there will be a wee flutter of unease in that part of the planet that the diesel-belching Bok machine remains stubbornly industrious and bloody-minded on its day.

South Africa boxed hard and they boxed clever, even if elegance was conspicuously absent from their ring-craft at the buzzing Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium.

Let’s not get ahead of ourselves with excitement: the Boks still finished stone last in this year’s Tri-Nations (the winners to be decided in Brisbane next weekend) and could not cross the chalk in two home matches at very close to full staffing.

These are rather sobering stats, and certainly no reason to start bragging that the country is “back”.

Their game-plan remains pretty basic and easy enough to read – that will be even more the case at RWC 2011 now, because you can bet your last rand that Morne Steyn, on the strength of his showing in the Friendly City, will be the go-to flyhalf for essential matches at the tournament after some thought in recent months that a Butch James or Pat Lambie might be installed for potentially greater X-factor.

Forget it, Fred. The Boks, with their firm faith in some old warhorses from 2007, are going to make an ever more determined bid to bludgeon their way to retention of the Webb Ellis Cup, with Steyn’s metronomic boot the likeliest source of points on the board for the South African cause in tight, strength-versus-strength encounters.

Not that one wishes to make Steyn seem like some kind of plodding Neanderthal: he mixed up his play quite nicely at times on Saturday and his crisp distribution when he did unload the “pill” via his hands could hardly be identified as a key reason for the Boks’ second consecutive try-scoring blank.

The Bulls man also defended his channel with the required resolved and of course his unerring efficiency with the boot yet again shone through richly: in ding-dong matches, he is probably better suited than anyone else around the globe to bang over that game-swaying penalty from an acute angle or snap dropped goal.

Make no mistake, even with some reserve material on view, the All Blacks made awe-inspiring, near-effortless yards at times with ball in hand, and it took some particularly resolute backline defence from the likes of Steyn, Jean de Villiers, Jaque Fourie and Bryan Habana to keep the home fortress from being breached.

Habana, perhaps, deserves special mention: he has had a well-nigh rotten season in many respects, but this stellar Bok figure of 2007 was like a man possessed for awareness and commitment in Port Elizabeth.

Yes, on one occasion he came off his defensive line too early yet again to cause a few hearts to stop, but his cover-defence was terrific throughout and he also earned one legendary “steal” at the breakdown in the second half to an array of appreciative whoops and slaps from his team-mates.

What of the Springbok pack? Well, for starters it was such a breath of fresh air to see a green-and-gold eight notably ruling the roost against these opponents at scrum-time, where the grip seldom ceased even after Gurthro Steenkamp had come through 40 comeback minutes at loosehead very successfully and Beast Mtawarira was a marvellous sub to be able to inject.

In general exchanges – in a match remarkable for the amount of combat which took place in the “middle” areas of the park – the entire Bok eight were pictures of zeal and robustness.

When normally flair-conscious All Blacks players start making elementary handling and passing errors, you can be sure it is at least partly because they are being unsettled by the expectancy of rib-rattling hits from the enemy outfit.

Let’s face it, how often do you want to be gang-tackled by the brutish combo of Bakkies Botha and Willem Alberts, as memorably happened once to some luckless All Blacks customer in this Test?

Also to consider with the looming World Cup in mind is that, if the Boks do still end up meeting the old enemy at the semi-final stage, they are likely to take to the field with a useful little talisman in their ranks – gritty open-side flank Heinrich Brussow, the popular choice as man of the match on Saturday, has now won four of four personal meetings with New Zealand.

His face bloodied and pockmarked as he received his post-game laurel, the Free Stater looked as though a hand-grenade might have exploded under his nose.

Brussow simply typified the Bok resolve in PE.

Yes, the supposed Bok corpse does still offer up a pulse ...

Sport24

Comments
  • Veld66 - 2011-08-20 22:34

    They played a WORLD CUP type of Match.......i believe they will do well in RWC

      Netherlands - 2011-08-21 07:54

      Brussouw = White Mike TYSON!!!!!! That thing is a PIT BULL!!!!! Deserved MAN'O'Match!!!

      BiggestBull - 2011-08-21 08:10

      Everyone, except F duP, played really well.

      Netherlands - 2011-08-21 08:22

      FdP had a No 9 on his back, but played in a No 12 position...

      BiggestBull - 2011-08-21 08:34

      @ Netherlands, good observation. Why did he hang around in the 12/13 channel when Hougie came on?

      soetdoring - 2011-08-21 09:42

      Brute ... brutal ... Brussow

      fixit - 2011-08-21 10:07

      JdV had another poor effort ...he is way under par

      Benny66 - 2011-08-21 10:26

      @biggestbull. Much as I have admired FdP all these years he concerns me now with his slowness and powder puff passes. JP Duminy had an AWFULL game and should not be the run on wing untill he can learn to tackle! On the other hand, amongst the backs, Hougard impresses me every time he comes on to the park. He has unlimited energy, the speed of a cobra and, like Brussow, pops up everywhere to fearlessly tackle the biggest of the opposition. He is equally at home at wing; fullback or scrumhalf. He should get more game time!

      Benny66 - 2011-08-21 10:36

      JP Duminy must be wondering how he got to be playing rugby - I meant JP Pietersen, of course.

  • Anneck - 2011-08-20 22:38

    "Pinch of power, a dash of desperation, a lashing of raw courage..." Lol! Let me finish that: all brawn, no brain, no skill, no try, just Morne. WAKE UP!

      maverix - 2011-08-20 22:45

      18-5.... 'nuff said

      Anneck - 2011-08-20 22:56

      Maverix let's look at the bigger picture: who scored all those points for us and how? Did we manage to score a try? What would the outcome have been, had Nonu, Carter, McCaw, etc, had played? Still very disturbing that we allowed a second string All Black side to run our defense ragged. Thank goodness they were without all their finishers, otherwise we would have been 0 and 4!

      slg - 2011-08-20 23:10

      Exactly Annec.

      Mason - 2011-08-20 23:45

      Tell me now, was that a comment to say we lost against a Kiwi 'B' side Anneck?? get over yourself, unless that makes you feel better!! How many players did we leave at home?? It is still a Bok or All Black side, does not matter what team they field! to the rest of the comments, i used to always support the All Blacks second to the Boks, happened to have the fortune of living in NZ for over 3 and half years and changed my support to OZ! Really don't care what reply i get here, probably only the sad little people with a small country bug mouth syndrome!

      jase880 - 2011-08-20 23:50

      Disagree Anneck - this was typical World Cup rugby and it's why we have won 50% of the RWC's we have played in. England played the same game in 2003. And we had Percy kicking our way through 2007. We are not playing a complete game yet by far, but we were in control of the game. It is going to be tougher playing McCaw, Carter and Guildford - sure - but this was not a total 2nd string NZ team - half and half. The key is Steyn, Habana, De Villiers and the whole scrum are starting to hit form...wait 'til Du Preez does the same (he had a terrible game tonight) and Schalk comes back. We played the perfect game plan tonight - 18 -5 is not a close win - we beat them well.

      simon.theman.barnes - 2011-08-21 01:58

      run our defence ragged, anneck? they scored one try, off an illegal pass. our defence was brilliant.

      Nasdaq7 - 2011-08-21 03:24

      Make tries worth 8 points then to improve the game, but the Boks will still do well and win.

      Mike - 2011-08-21 07:57

      Perhaps Anneck you are unaware that you can score points in rugby other than by tries? 18-5 shows the AB's gave away too many penalties and were not disciplined enough. Remember the 1995 and 2003 World Cup were won by drop kicks not tries. But as an All Black supporter you might not know this as the last World Cup you was some 14 years ago. Defense wins world cups and not necessarily tries, just the way it is

      Netherlands - 2011-08-21 08:03

      How pissed off did Bismark get when they pulled him off!! ROFLMAO! Smit brought his side after he came on...well done! Was good to see them "GRUNT" that AB scrum in the latter part of the game! Bok's should have scored a TRY.... would have gained a mountain of confidence from that! Win is a WIN... well done!

      patrickb - 2011-08-21 08:12

      Who cares what team you support Mason. The All Blacks are the greatest rugby playing side in the world! Stats do not lie.............

      Netherlands - 2011-08-21 08:26

      Patrick... they are also KNOWN AS "THE CHOKERS"... no matter HOW WELL THEY PLAY..the word "CHOKERS" will FOLLOW THEM FOREVER!!!!! They share that handle with the PROTEA'S.... SA's CRICKETERS! Watch this space in the RWC 2011... You have been warned!

      Alves - 2011-08-21 08:47

      Well obviously Anneck didnt see the rest of the game and his lack of rugby knowledge only allows him to ackknowledge tries and not see the rest of the chess game which took place, if you not already living in New Zealand I suggest you and the rest of the kiwis return to a country more deserving of your lack of intellagence and pride, ''mmmmaaaaaa' thats sheep for idiot!

      patrickb - 2011-08-21 08:55

      Netherlands: Just for the record, I am and will always be a Bok supporter. Had an extended "happy hour" last night. But we have to face the fact that the AB's are historically the best rugby team the world has seen.

      Mason - 2011-08-21 08:57

      @Patrickb mmmm who cares about stats when you are struggling for the cup that matters...it is sad when Nz expects to have all the cups given to them!! You guys bitch aout everything when it does not go your way!! I don't care if we were playing boring kicking rugby a few years ago...we were winning and all the kiwis could do was whine!!!

      Karoobloed - 2011-08-21 10:37

      patrickb in the 20 years of the professional era the ABs has clearly been the best Rugby team in the world. In the 39 matches since the start of the professional era, the All Blacks have won 27 tests to the 13 of the Springboks. However, in the 70 years prior to the start of the professional era, the Springboks had won 21 tests to the All Blacks 18. The Boks also recorded a series win in NZ in the 1930s, while the ABs recorded their 1st series win over the Boks in 1996, during the professional era.

      Carl Muller - 2011-08-21 11:34

      I agree, where are the tries... we will need them in the world cup... We can win some games with Morne, but if we lose the important along the way one we are out.... And next time Ritchie McCaw is back, and he is the best...

      Anneck - 2011-08-21 12:58

      In reply to all the comments, I am South African, and support the Springboks through and through. Yes we won, but in my view it was still against a second string All Black team, that was able to run our defense ragged. Only reason we managed to stop them scoring tries is because they had no Ma'a Nonu, Dan Carter, Conrad Smith - they would have taken us to the cleaners! Games cannot be won on penalties alone! What if Stu Dickenson had been yesterday's ref? We are not world cup final material based on yesterday's game alone.

      Real Deal - 2011-08-21 14:08

      Anneck - How do 3 players missing make it a b side. We killed them in the scum, we were hitting them harder on the contact side of things. To be honest - the ab have peaked and on the way down. SA is just starting to get their act together. Ab should be very worried be there very many huge phyiscal and mental victories won by the boks

      Wessel - 2011-08-22 17:19

      I think you dont look at the game.Yes we need to work on getting trys.You take it 2 trys and they were in for the win.But let say it they played well.Brussouw well he is back.He is a littel devil.Habana if he can keep playing like that we will make this a South Africa world cup.Just one thing we can not say we played well untill we got the world cup.We must also say carter was not there and he makes a big diverant in tha nzl team with mccaw.But this will bring something out of the boys this game.FDP yes this was his time to have a bad game.Dont write him off he is still a good no9.One more thing to say,GO OUR BOKS WE WILL BE BEHIND YOU ALL THE WAY.

  • Dread69 - 2011-08-20 22:39

    To all the racist local AB supporters - UP YOURS!!!

      Veld66 - 2011-08-20 22:43

      Dont be sick you scumbag......this is sport take your nonsense race thrash away from here.

      Dread69 - 2011-08-20 22:58

      Sjoe!! Are you a sore loser?

      Logoll - 2011-08-20 23:15

      Hey this is a free country they can support whoever they want to. So stop with your racist nonsense.

      Dread69 - 2011-08-21 00:22

      You're right - I'm sorry.

      BiggestBull - 2011-08-21 08:11

      SPIEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!!!!

      Durasmart - 2011-08-21 10:32

      Said last week on this forum that PE is not an All Black supporter city like Cape Town. I was at the game and something that said it all was a big banner held up amongst a group of about 20 local black supporters reading "BLACKS LOVE THE SPRINGBOKS"

  • burtfred - 2011-08-20 22:41

    Never write off a big young farmer boy in a Springbok jersey. The All-Blacks have already lost the world cup through sheer arrogance and that silly little war dance that they do. They are told by their press and their public that they are invincible. And they believe it.

      EJ - 2011-08-20 23:25

      arrogance?...what arrogance is mentioned in the NZ media? The current sport headlines there have praised the Boks for thier return and criticised the ABs despite being B team. Do feed off myths on NZ rugby just because they win most of the time.

      OZNOB - 2011-08-20 23:40

      THE ONE THING that i apreciate about the nz press is that they call a spade a shovel. now onto there were a few tackles that i feel the offending party should be cited . also some of the reffing decisions were not off the top drawer

      GraemeBB - 2011-08-21 00:47

      I will say one thing for the AB's: they are good sportman, as is the Aussies and Boks. It is the supporters that are arrogant! A fantastic rivalry between these 3 countries. We all love it! Love beating those two teams! If our Bokke dont win the RWC, I hope it is NZ, and then Aussies. Best 3 teams as the rankings would suggest.

      HappyinNZ - 2011-08-21 06:26

      hey mate have some respect, the haka is a big part of maori culture , read up a bit and you might understand one day,..

      FJ2 - 2011-08-21 06:41

      @BCC: Get the Rules of Rugby. Study it. Then you will see that Bryce Lawrence, last Saturday, was totally at loss at the rucks, where the Wallabies entered from the side at will. This time we got a bum from the Northern Hemisphere who just couldn’t keep up with the pace of the game and were seemingly blind when it came to obstructive running by the AB’s and their constant infringements at rucks. He can’t even spot a blatant offside at a maul, and you are saying he kept us in the game? You’re depriving a village somewhere of an idiot. I’ve been watching test rugby since 1968, and this was one of the top 5 most inept performances by a referee in a test that I have ever seen . I‘m glad Morné Steyn played better, although his tactical kicking was rather bad. With our line-out abilities, you kick the ball OUT, apply pressure so they can’t take a quick throw-in end attack their jumpers. Also, kicking a ball into their ingoal area, after a quick steal from Bismarck and with the AB’s, for once, in total disarray, was just dumb. We were lucky at times, when they just couldn’t finish. As for their defence being good, I think it’s more a case of that we didn’t ask any questions of it. We just don’t have any vision and creativity amongst the inside backs. But we stuck to our guns, and we won. That’s what counts, in the end.

      Wormtongue - 2011-08-21 07:15

      My., my, BCC now has to resort to blaming the ref Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

      BigMoose - 2011-08-21 08:47

      The ref was Irish and he was braaibed.

      Krueger - 2011-08-21 08:56

      @buttfred - Show some respect for the Haka. Its unique and a part of the great sport we call Rugby! The All Blacks won't be the All Blacks without it. The same goes for Samoa and Tonga.

      Krueger - 2011-08-21 10:45

      @buttfred - So, it is true then, Neanderthals do live amongst man. I'm no "Kiwi lover", but I do have the up most respect for their team, the All Blacks and the Haka.

  • Grunt - 2011-08-20 22:42

    New Zealand played like headless sheep.. don't overplay our chances, we are not that good these days...

      BiggestBull - 2011-08-21 08:15

      Perhaps not, but at least this win lifted the spirits a bit.

  • BB - 2011-08-20 22:45

    Well Done Bokke!!

      BiggestBull - 2011-08-21 08:16

      Please elaborate on your comment. Thank you in advance.

      The Mugz - 2011-08-21 08:49

      @biggest idiot Bokke won?? and you cant say congrats!! (chop)

      BiggestBull - 2011-08-21 09:24

      Why so grumpy?

      The Mugz - 2011-08-22 08:20

      lol, grumpy?? haha i bet some of the old bulls that are leaving are glad they don’t have to deal withe supporters like you anymore.

  • mabsie - 2011-08-20 22:48

    I really thought they were doomed. I publically retract that!! Well done boys! Brilliant!

  • GraemeBB - 2011-08-20 22:50

    Great, we won a game. Some may say boring, others may say lucky, and big mouths like Maori will say it was against the AB's B team. Bottom line is that the Boks showed determination to oust the AB's, and this is what makes us dangerous come the RWC. Supporters have alot to cheer about, as this is why we are proud of our boys - I call it heart. I just wish we scored a try. We need to have a few tricks up our sleeve at the RWC. Well done boys, good win!

      StangV2_0 - 2011-08-21 01:09

      True.. Pisses me off that every single time we achieve a great vistory that there is always a negative chop that has something to say. These same fools said In 1995 we won WC because the AB had food poisining.. We won it in 2007 because we didnt play the AB. Not our fault france nailed u.. and now we won our first match in ages because of one player and it was their B team.. WAKE UP PPL..!! Prob every single NZ player that was on that field will be in their WC squad. Piri Weepu is a world class scrumhalf and he started off the bench. What does that tell you? 4/4 for brussouw? Wow..!! Awesome feat.. Goes to show just how good a fetcher is against NZ. And Brussouw has played against Macaw. A match that SA won.. Regardless of what any fool says here I believe it is the start greatness.. 2 matches back the stereotypes were saying we will never win.. Now weve beaten NZ in PE. By the time the pool stages are finished this team will be peaking again.. Just watch...

      Riaan - 2011-08-21 08:37

      Just loved seeing them bring back some pride to the jersey. Where as the coaching staff said earlier that their focus isn't on the remaining TN3 games it shifts to the world cup they said this week that every game for the Boks are important and they showed it for the first time on the field. They looked hungry for this win, played together as a unit and put there bodies on the line holding nothing back. This young NZ team said they would run us of our feet but at the later stages it was the men in black who looked the most tired. This win wasn't perfect by any standard but it was just what the Doctor ordered. Taking into account that the WC is historically won by a good kicking performance and an unwavering defense there is now more than a little hope for us to retain the Webb Ellis cup and be the first team to do so. Maybe its something the AB's are missing and that's the reason they're the best team every time entering a WC but only won it once.... 24years ago

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-08-21 09:09

      @GraemeBB - for those 'twats' who say our players are 'unfit' , I have the following to say: The defensive system Jaque Nienaber designed is based PURELY on players workrate. The system SEEMS to be falling into place (obviously the more they use it and are tested by attacking teams, the better it will get), and I didn't see ONE Bok player struggling with the work rate required to defend like that. Not one. If they were as unfit as what many 'claim' - it would be impossible to implement the defensive system that worked last night. The big mouths can go and suck a lolly for all I care!

      FJ2 - 2011-08-21 20:50

      @SAFFA-CAT: You really a girl? You know far more about the game than most of us and give more level-headed opinions. So much for women being more emotional than men!

      GraemeBB - 2011-08-22 00:10

      @FJ2 - Yup, SAFFA knows her rugby! I agree, fitness wasnt a problem. Too many negative people looking for problems where there are none.

  • What de D... - 2011-08-20 23:02

    dit was soos om teen 'n super 15 span te speel....die bokke kannie aanvallend speel nie - ping pong rugby

  • Anneck - 2011-08-20 23:04

    Let me just finish for the night by saying - whichever way I think - it goes down as another win against the All Blacks, bottom line, which is great! But is that enough to take us into the World Cup in New Zealand? We can only wait and see...

      all black - 2011-08-21 03:47

      I think we all have to wait and see. I really can't wait for the RWC 2011 in my country. Especially in the Auckland City Centre, where there are going to be outdoor big screens so that fans are able to watch the games live. But really, I should be studying during that time.. :P

  • Withond - 2011-08-20 23:15

    I stick with ;replace the captain and replace the coach. thank you

      BiggestBull - 2011-08-21 08:18

      Pleasure.

      Carl Muller - 2011-08-21 11:37

      Just bring in some strategy...while you do that..

  • Neutralist - 2011-08-20 23:33

    The All Blacks made plenty of breaks. Hey, they're the All Blacks after all; strongest team or not, they enjoy playing expansive rugby. The Springboks can be proud that in these two home tests- although they didn't score any tries (and they did have chances to)- they're not leaking in tries left, right and centre like last year.

      TaniaSandraSteyn - 2011-08-20 23:42

      I loved sitting amongst a bunch of negatives saying "SA will win!" - "Habana is great!" And generally showing my ignorance. And as usual, ignorance won. I tell you now - there is not crowd like the PE crowd - we are hungry for a good show, hungry for a win - and we can make the ball turn our way with our infamous wind and a lot of willpower...

      BiggestBull - 2011-08-21 08:20

      @ Tania, well said. I was tremendously impressed with the PE crowd. Well done!

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-08-21 09:15

      The PE crowd was the finest home crowd I have seen at an international test in SA - EVER. They all sang the national anthem START TO FINISH (other stadiums only sing the last stanzas), they cheered, danced and willed the Boks to go further, do more and eventually win. Credit to all the locals! The biggest achievement of all, was the home crowd silencing all the 'Keewee wannabes'. Well done PE - I hope they Boks get to play many more tests there! (As long as Newlands still gets a few of course)

  • slg - 2011-08-20 23:38

    The best thing out of today was the crowd drowning out the Haka. That's the way to do it, take away the power that it instills.

      John Jameson - 2011-08-21 05:45

      No, that was just uncalled for. You may as well boo their national anthem.

      slg - 2011-08-21 07:20

      Was their national anthem booed?

      Lewis - 2011-08-21 07:56

      I have to apologise to all New Zealanders reading here for the appalling way South africans behave at games. Sorry about that. Not all of us are rubbish.

      Mike - 2011-08-21 08:11

      Well said Sig, I was at the AB vs Bok game in Soweto last year, the Haka was also drowned out. I like the Haka but it does beg the question that should a team be allowed to have their own special motivation dance before a game? I love it, but it definitely gives them a edge and we have the right to cheer while they doing it. John the Haka is not your national anthem, dry your eyes

      Northern Stormer - 2011-08-21 08:58

      It is their culture to do the Haka and they are entitled to it. By kiiling it through singing and boooing they just get more determinde. We were brought up better than what we displayed. Let them do the Haka, we also enjoy it as it challenged us to beat them !!! Stop the boooing and disrespect for other teams as it is uncalled for !!!

      The Mugz - 2011-08-21 09:12

      the haka is a "nice to watch" but why cant we do our african thing? (because it made the kiwis scared so they put an end to it via the IRB) so yes any team and i bet all of them would should be able to turn their backs on the haka, warm up or do whatever they want at that time. go look at the haka in ab rugby and you will see it was only really sorted out in the 50's or 60's before that it was a silly little "slap and dance" (because that is what the “haka” in ab rugby was before it was what it is today in rugby) ab’s never did the they just called it that . (before I get told to go do my research.. I did – go do yours.)

      slg - 2011-08-21 14:09

      We should have our Zulu warriors do their thing. Whatever happened to that?

      Durasmart - 2011-08-21 14:15

      Originally the Haka was never meant to be a challenge, but a celebration of the Maori history and that was why it was always performed facing the crowd, not the opposing team. It was only in the 80's that it was changed into a challenge to the oposing team.

  • andile phungula - 2011-08-20 23:49

    to all those all blacks that will say it was a B TEAM atleast S arfrica know when you wear that jersey there no such thing those players are te future

  • Wayne Thornley - 2011-08-20 23:53

    The mangled grammar in this article fits quite well with that photo of Heinrich Brussouw ... just saying.

  • Palooza - 2011-08-21 00:38

    Heinrich!!!!!!!! Sho! What a performance!

      GraemeBB - 2011-08-21 00:50

      Yup - that was brave. That man just doesnt give an intch. I have the greatest respect for this man. I am so happy he is back!

      BiggestBull - 2011-08-21 08:48

      You should have seen ME last night!

  • Kleinboet - 2011-08-21 00:52

    There are a few things we can take from this game: 1) SBW is overrated 2) The AB's (even though it was their 2nd team) will be jittery, fearing another famous choke 3) Brüssow is a must 4) Bismark should be the first choice hooker before John Smit. He is much better and do the work of a loose forward. He supports Brüssow splendidly 5) Matfield captained the team better than Smit ever did since the beginning of the tri-Nations 6) Nienaber's influence on our defensive strategy is already showing its worth 7) The rustiness of some of the players who layed off during the away leg is fading and they were much sharper today; which bode well for our RWC dreams 8) Seems to me we have found our RWC fly-half. Morné is not the best there is, but he can kick and looked steady behind a pack that stood its ground. Play Lambie at full-back and keep James on the bench. 9) Several players who struggled with form during the Super15 are slowly finging form again. 10) We can be just a teeny-weeny bit more optimistic about our RWC2011 chances 11) Peter de Villiers is never going to learn not to undo all the hard work by bringing on unnecessary substitutions when his team is winning. This tendency may well cost us the RWC2011.

      Suidwes - 2011-08-21 01:38

      Probably the most sensible comment on this thread. Agree with all 11 points.

      Wayne - 2011-08-21 03:47

      +1 to all your points, Re: number 11, What was with duppie, shaking his head when he was taken off for Smit? I mean I can imagine why, but what are you guys thoughts?

      mollie.kruger - 2011-08-21 07:04

      Kleinboet, agree with you on ALL points!!! Refreshing to read something useful in this thread. Most worried about point 11. Bismark was visibly the M@#R in when he was called off. Why was he replaced? You play your best available at all times...

      Georg - 2011-08-21 07:52

      I agree with the points kleinboet made. Bismark was taken off while he was playing very well , he has every right to fell peed off.Smith played reasonably too though but he didnt do as much stealing.

      BiggestBull - 2011-08-21 08:14

      Agreed Kleinboet. Yesterday proved we don't need JS in the team. Victor did a great job as captain and Bismark, well, he is just by FAR the best hooker in SA.

      Daniel - 2011-08-21 08:16

      Agree with all, but number 11 - I think he staggered the replacements a bit better this time than he has in the past. He had to replace some of the guys because they were tiring, and he pulled off Bismarck to make sure Smit got 20 minutes of game time to top off off the two previous games and make sure he's match-fit for WC. I think it's worked - we now have Bismarck and Smit as hookers who are at or near the peak of their personal games at the moment.

      Mike - 2011-08-21 08:18

      great analysis Kleinboet, we can improve and I was also shocked when Bismark was subbed. Remember the first game against the Irish and British Lions in Durban 2009? Substitutions nearly cost us the game and JS was hurried back onto the field in the dying moments to help save the situation

      Netherlands - 2011-08-21 08:42

      Sorry bru...not ALL the 11 points are relevant... SBW showed his class... never LOST THE BALL... ALWAYS PASSED.... right down to the LAST SECOND!!!!!!!! Give credit where credit is due! The rest I tend to agree with...

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-08-21 09:36

      @Kleinboet - I am so chuffed the SBW roadshow seems to be winding down to suffer a 'couldn't come sooner slow death'. P Divvy took SO much flack for what he said about SBW. I agreed with EVERY word P Divvy said at the time, and now it seems so are the Kiwi press. Go and have a read on stuff.nz what their experts/fans and others have to say about SBW - it warms the cockles of my heart to see I am not the only SBW "detractor" around. @Netherlands - go and read what the Kiwi press say about him and what they have been saying for a while now - he is disruptive, money hungry, not a TEST level rugga player and shouldn't make the AB's world cup squad. Everything a few of us have been saying from Day 1.

      Razz-ma-Tazz - 2011-08-21 10:04

      @Kleinboet. You sounds and maybe you are a TYPICAL AFRIKANER. I am sure your father drives a FORD Bakkie and your grand father must have owned a farm. Your observation is 50% correct. 1) Bare in mind you played against a B team. 2)You did not mentioned your guys cannot play 80 minutes and thats a concerned. 3)The AB scored 5 tries against your B team and your guys could not score once. Thats even a BIGGER concerned. 4) The AB had more scoring oppertunities compared to your NO oppertunities. 5) Your record of 8 defeats in a row speaks for itself. 6) Your team will have more presure then the AB to defend the WC

      patrickb - 2011-08-21 10:25

      Razz-ma-Tazz: What's with the "TYPICAL AFRIKANER" comment? I suppose you drive a Bantam bakkie, because you are so bad in bed.

      Razz-ma-Tazz - 2011-08-21 10:41

      @patrickb. No you are wrong I drive a X5. Asked your sister from Boksburg who works at Teasers how I performed in bed, by the way better than your BOKS.

      Karoobloed - 2011-08-21 10:57

      Razz-ma-tazz Anyone that refers to any cultural group and use the word "typical" is both biased and backwards Bragging about one's car and sexual prowess is absolutely low-class - but I will not extrapolate that to your cultural group, whatever that may be. Razz-ma-Tazz has a strong Vegas ring to it - seems to be very apt for you.

      Obama Bin Laden - 2011-08-21 11:19

      @Razzmattazz - my word you are a total w@nker. No wonder you go to teazers, probably the only way you ever get any. That and the knuckle shuffle you most likely do while your x5 is stuck in the traffic

      GraemeBB - 2011-08-21 11:40

      @Razz my Tazz - please boet, you probably drive a Tazz. Hiring woman at teasers speaks volumes about your "ability" in bed. Oh, what is the "your" team thing. Another SA Maori is my guess. Here is another observation I made yesterday - the Boks didnt reveal all. See "you guys" at the RWC.

      Razz-ma-Tazz - 2011-08-21 12:05

      GraemeBB. Again you're wrong. We don't hire them we visit them. By the way we do not have any Tazz's or Ford Escorts in our fleet.

      GraemeBB - 2011-08-21 12:30

      @Tazz - so sorry, I am not familiar with the "Teaser" lingo. It is like calling rugby "footy". Same thing. And now you own a fleet. Isnt this becomming a joke? Well, if you will excuse me, my hellicopter is waiting.

      Totman - 2011-08-21 12:43

      @Razz-ma -Tazz. My aim is not to counter your Springbok view, but to ask you how stupid can you be to mention a X5 and Teasers in Boksburg in the same comment. Now everyone knows your mentality, your brain power and who you may resemble. Next time refer to Merc. ML [or something else] and another location. Maybe more northern suburbs or a complete different place. Also remember one's that talk about money do not have or temporary enjoy some. "Old monies" are not called "quiet monies" for nothing. Thank of flash in a pan. Please do not ask for my response. I would like to enjoy my moment of laughter with the other, that red your comment.

      Razz-ma-Tazz - 2011-08-21 12:52

      GraemeBB I am sure you're a BLOND>>>>>><<<<<<<<

      Razz-ma-Tazz - 2011-08-21 13:00

      @Totman, sorry we do not have ML's in our fleet. Come and work for me we do have vacancies in our mines, thereafter you will properly have some joy to sit in a X5.

      patrickb - 2011-08-21 13:10

      Razz-ma-Tazz: My sister who works at Teazers, use to be my boet. Glad you enjoyed him!

      GraemeBB - 2011-08-21 13:45

      Hahaha - Tazz is trying his "Teaser" lingo on me now. Making me nervous. Time to go! Bye-bye

      Kleinboet - 2011-08-21 16:24

      Razz-ma-tazz, if you tell me what a 'typical Afrikaner' is I may be able to tell you whether I'm one or not. However, I shall refrain from getting into a discussion with you about anything at all. Clearly my comments upset you severely, and I am sorry that I caused you pain and suffering. I do agree that the Bokke is under severe pressure and that one win does not alleviate it. Everything I wrote highlights it. I'm glad to hear that the All Blacks are under no pressure whatsoever. Congratulations on winning the RWC in August!!!

      Andrew - 2011-08-22 02:44

      Razz-ma-Tazz – Where the hell are you from? You call people “typical Afrikaners”; as an Afrikaner I made just one observation. You typed about 6 or 7 sentences (in English which I guess is your first language), you made 10 spelling and/or grammatical errors, not too bright hey? I think 99.9% of “Afrikaners” would have done a better job typing your comment. On the other hand we would not have written such a load crap. I know you tried really hard to insult people on this forum; however you just proved to everyone that you have a brain the size of a peanut (that’s an insult to a peanut). Or as an “Afrikaner” would say: “ jy het jou naam met ‘n plank geslaan boet”.

      Dros - 2011-08-22 11:13

      Razz - ma - Troll

  • slg - 2011-08-21 00:58

    They ground out a victory against the All Black squad. Nothing to be very proud of.

      morena - 2011-08-21 19:48

      we all know you are an ASS

      slg - 2011-08-22 06:59

      Who's we?

  • damonandmegs - 2011-08-21 01:21

    The fact is, the ab's and the Boks will always play hard rugby, because both teams have strong passion and drive to win. True the ab's lost this morning and I agree, second string or not, the team was there to try and win. Wearing the black jersey doesn't come lightly, just as wearing the green and gold jersey. The boks can take the win and it will no doubt help build some needed confidence in the team. Back to the NZ media comment.. Being a kiwi I can honestly say that the NZ media don't build the ab's up at all, especially when it cames to world cup year. Sure, It certainly helps that a team plays well leading up to every world cup, but again it doesn't mean that they are going to win it. NZ knows this more deeply than any our nation. I always see the boks play with great passion and know that on any day they can win, my only question mark is on your coach and how he inspires the team with a true game plan. I know If you play well via Peter de Villers or not, then you're going to be in the mix and you will be very dangerous as usaul. I centainly look forward to it!

  • gsaker1 - 2011-08-21 02:36

    The Box did not impress me at all. Only handling errors by underdone young All Black players saved the Box and at times some good defence. Don't delude yourself Box fans...your back line was torn to shreds by the All Blacks on numerous occasions and in two home games the Box have barely looked like pulling off a try. Enjoy your win against a young underdone, under strength All Black unit it will be your last this year...unless u learn how to break defences with consistency and so far the answer to that is no you can't.

      hawk - 2011-08-21 06:14

      Hahahahah. Check the scoreboard you twat. AB was only able to score once in 80 min. The French are waiting for you and once again you wil CHOKE CHOKE and CHOKE. Boks kicked your ass good. When last did an AB side lose. before today. Boks know how to win the big ones. AB only one cup in 24 years. All the stats are against you

      Mike - 2011-08-21 08:24

      @gsaker1 - your errors /dropping the ball / etc was because of excellent pressure from the Boks. Allan Thompson gave away silly penalties, remember good defenses win world cups. You say the AB's are under done, well we can only play the team you field and you made mistakes because we were in the AB's faces and they aren't used to that

      Krueger - 2011-08-21 10:05

      @gsucker1 - Yes, our backline was torn to shreds, hence the ONE try. Don't delude yourself poepol, the result is determined by the number of points scored, not by the try count. Be it penalties, drop goals or tries. The Bo"KS" had a very good game considering the lack of game time. IF or WHEN the Bo"KS" meet the All Blacks in the WC, you can bet your house that the Bo"KS" will play it safe, with in-your-face defense and Steyn slotting the penalties / drop goals. No need to score tries. PS: There is no such thing as an understrength All Black team and I say it with respect.

  • MJ - 2011-08-21 03:23

    From a kiwi perspective, it's nice to let the Saffas win here and there to keep the competition vaguely interesting and their respectability not entirely shot to pieces - even if it is a dead rubber game against an obvious B team ;)

      gsaker1 - 2011-08-21 04:29

      Absolutely MJ...they can't even score a try against our underdone B-Team and at home ...pretty average from the Box to say the least...when uiconsider the All Black A-team racked up 6 tries and 40 points against the Box B-Team and blew them off the park...what a joke...huge gap between these two sides especially in depth....If that was the All Black A-Team the Box would have got smashed...Henry didn't even look the least bit concerned in the post match interview almost smiling to himself and who can blame him after that pretty ordinary effort from the Box against this well below strength All black unit.

      ohsa.online - 2011-08-21 07:59

      mj and gsucker1: Ag Shame. Your pet sheep get drilled by your neighbour while you were watching your team get drilled by the BOKS then? You are both FAKES. Baaaaaaaaaa -Baaaaaaaaaa. Well, your team got a bit more than it bargained for yesterday and your sonny boy williams looked like an ordinary garden boy as well.

      Northern Stormer - 2011-08-21 09:22

      @MJ - I do not share your feelings at all. yes this was a watered down AB team but definately not a full on "B" team. Remember our "B" team that was demolished in NZ lacked 21 fulltime Boks where you so called "B" team only lacked 7 regular AB's. That is a huge difference. Don't try and fool the world this was a good AB team !!!!

      Northern Stormer - 2011-08-21 09:30

      JUST TO PROVE MY STATEMENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Victor Matfield, Bakkies Botha, Fourie du Preez, Schalk Burger, Bismarck du Plessis, JP Pietersen, Jean de Villiers, Jaque Fourie, Bryan Habana, Heinrich Brussouw, Frans Steyn, BJ Botha, Willem Alberts, Jannie du Plessis, Gurthrö Steenkamp, Francois Hougaard , Butch James, Tendai Mtawarira, Pierre Spies *(Andries Bekker en Juan Smith) VS "Richie McCaw, his deputy Mils Muliaina, Daniel Carter, Kieran Read, Brad Thorn, Owen Franks and Conrad Smith have been left out of the squad to play the Springboks in Port Elizabeth"

  • all black - 2011-08-21 03:34

    It just shows that without Carter and McCaw, the All Blacks are average... Congrats Springboks, I hope this win gives you confidence in the lead up to the RWC 2011.. because I'll be at one of the pool matches rooting for the other side.. and I hope to see SA fans too.. =)

      gsaker1 - 2011-08-21 04:33

      hey 'all black 'what rubbish this teams line never got breached and most of them were coming back from injury and had it not been for some rushed finishing would have won the game comfortably

      Feds - 2011-08-22 07:26

      Would have, could have, should have but didn't hey gsaker you prick. And if your forward pass had been called you wouldn't not have even scored a try and the AB's would have been held to ZERO points! It wasnt a great performance by the boks by any means but it showed it was enough to beat what is not an invincible AB team. You talk about missing players, a lot of the bok players are also on the comeback, some for over a year. I'm sure an 'enlightened' AB supporter as yourself has to agree that it takes time for any player to get match fit and find his feet again.

  • Josh Brown - 2011-08-21 03:57

    Wallabies will win the WORLD CUP!!

  • mad.bushpig - 2011-08-21 04:38

    Well done to both teams, I must say the BOKKE certainly didn't look like scoring a try and if it wasn't for Fourie being able to scramble three intercepts there would have been at least one or two more All Black tries. Brussow played his heart out as did Bismark, the Bok scrum looked fairly solid. Pity Morne Steyn keeps on kicking the ball to the opposition. This enabled the All Blacks to run at the Bokke. Great to have the Bokke win though. Conservative kicking rugby wins Wold Cups so possibly the Bokke are on the right track. Great to see the All Blacks back in PE.

  • AllBok007 - 2011-08-21 05:01

    @ nz warrior just another whinging kiwi bitch. And I suppose the cowan try should have been awarded?? AB supporters need to harden the f*#k up @ the CT & PE Allblack 'community' - SUCK IT!!

      gsaker1 - 2011-08-21 06:28

      Actually the Cowan try was a forward pass no doubt but under the laws of the game whether you or me or anyone else likes it or not the TMO is NOT allowed to communicate to the ref about infringement before the line - only after it the line and I didn't like the way the South African TMO...who would have been fully aware that he is not allowed to do this...quite deliberately asked the ref a leading question..." "can I tell you about an infringement before the line?'....he knew full well that the ref - who damn well should have known better - would go yes ok...this is not about whether it was a forward pass or not but the laws of the game governing roll of the TMO and they were breached and deliberately by the SA TMO ..who knew the ref would ask him after a leading statement like that. Right decision or not has no relevance...the laws governing the TMO are very clear and this should not have been allowed to happen and the South African TMO should be reprimanded and the Ref get his butt kicked for not knowing the laws of the game. And yes believe it or not if it was the other way round I'd be saying the same thing otherwise I'd just be a hypocrite so if that was SA scoring a try and that happened I would say try should be given. Sadly another European ref who doesn't know the laws of the game properly...A few years ago South African, Kiwi, and Ozzie refs had to give them a lesson on the breakdown laws and now this...man who is training these clowns in Europe.

      Dread69 - 2011-08-21 09:22

      @gsaker1 - the question posed to the TMO was 'can I award the try?'. That is a pretty open ended question - and there have been countless times when an infringment before the try line influenced the outcome of the decision. Had the ref asked 'was the ball grounded correctly?', that would be a different story. There were 2 forward passes leading up to the incendent - so you can smudge it anyway you like it - the correct decision was made. And lastly, I don't for one minute believe you would be saying the same thing if the boot was on the other foot and SA lost.

      Mike@CapeT - 2011-08-21 12:00

      I don't know how the Ass Ref didn't pick it up.....he was right there and the pass was so blatantly forward!

  • Crusader Man - 2011-08-21 05:11

    well played Sa ... Good win.. Yep u peaking for the world cup lol... A win is a win and thats what it says in the papers... Looking forward to the world cup and hopefully we meet again in the Semi's... Hope fully you guys get your defense sorted.. Last 2 years its been dreadfull.. NZ could have scored 4-5 tries today (possibly our more experienced side would). Sa looked dreadfull on attack...The game today was what won u lest world cup.. But lost u last 2 tri nations.. quite convincingly.. Nothing new coming from SA... Morne Stein is ok in SA in NZ he is out of his depth... Just being honest .. Good luck SA ..

      Northern Stormer - 2011-08-21 09:37

      Correct !!!!! - Could have but didn't due to excellent defence friend !!! Being dreadfull on attack due to Du Preez being to slow to get line going - we will see Hougaard there in the near future and with Steyn standing slightly deeper Jean and Jacqui will cut your defensive lines more than regularly - watch my words and prepare it's coming. If Steyn is out of depth we will have Butch and Lambie to stand in - your second stringer looked more out of depth than what you wanted to yesterday ???

  • Jonathan - 2011-08-21 06:04

    lets not get to caried away just yet. yes we beat the AB yeas we palyed like world champions and many players hit form that we havent seen for ages. But how long will it last Habana comes and goes and we cant rely on one or two players to win us games we need all fiveteen to be firing. But it feels like we are turning a corner and the boks will rise again. As much as i hate to see us lose week after week after week i still am in my bok jersey and in front of the TV an hour before the game starts. Lets focus on our first pool game and face the AB bridge when we come to it and not get over excited about this win but keep our heads up and take each game as it comes and who knows we may even end up in the final.....after all is said and done i am a bok supporter till the death. go the Boks..make us proud

      HarryDampers - 2011-08-21 06:48

      Seems like many are getting carried away with this Graham Henry sideshow. Lets back the truck up a bit. We finished bottom of the log and have lost (I think) 5 of our last 6 games against Australia. We have an ageing side and buffoon for a coach and could not cross the tryline in either of our two home games. PDV has not solved the problem with John Smit and only in our last game before the world cup seems to have decided on who should play at outside half!! We are staring down the barrell of some hard world cup games , and THIS time we will surely not be lucky enough to get to the end without playing the Kiwis or Australians. The guys played out of their skins yesterday , to beat a second string All Black side. The REAL match is in Brisbane next week ....which is why Graham Henry rested his top players.

  • AirAction - 2011-08-21 07:00

    Still very worried that we could not score a try .

      BiggestBull - 2011-08-21 08:45

      I am still very concerned about my constant bloatedness...

      patrickb - 2011-08-21 14:26

      Biggest Bull: I thought you were full of sh*t!

  • Zion - 2011-08-21 07:15

    The perceptions generated by this Tri-Nations win is rather interesting but severely flawed. So far the AB have won 50% of their games as did the Australians. South Africa won only 25% ie one game. The Ozzies or NZ team can go the last mile and increase their lot to 75% We base our expectations of winning the world cup on that miserly 25%. This manner ofthinking excludes all other national teams from winning the world cup: England, France or Argentine. The fact that the NZ team was purposely understrength doesnpotwater down South African expectations. Way back in the late '90's the Springboks were touring some or other South Sea island: Samoa or Tonga and beat the poor buggers in the region of 80/13 or something similar. Next day, Sunday, the RAPPORT had banner headlines:- "BRILJANT BOKKE" Most international teams would have beaten Tonga at the time, or most SA Currie Cup teams. We can place the same accolades on the Free State game yesterday. 80/16 Pumas. So much .has been said and done about our Bakkies Botha but yesterday he was seen to be exactly what he is. Pity the referee did not see it too. Despite all his counselling . Bakkies and his inane grin was out looking for a fight but the AB collective mentality far outshines our hero. Bakkies at no time advanced more than 10 metres before being brought down. As for the referee, well ask the All Blacks: The decisions and calls were clearly biased in favour of the SA team. Is it possiblefor a team to win theworld cup with

      ohsa.online - 2011-08-21 07:48

      @zion: you sound like a very bitter man indeed. Most genuine New Zealanders enjoyed the game and applauded the WIN by the SPRINGBOKS. Bakkies had a great game yesterday, doing the job he was supposed to do. What would you like him to have done, go waltzing around the park in a tutu? Sod off, you fake all black!

      Zion - 2011-08-21 11:34

      @ohsa.online: Bitter for what? You are entitled to your opinions so why the f*ck am I not granted the same rights? I simply state what I saw. You live in your small reality tied to others opinions which you adopt because you are too sodding stupid to make up your own. If you cannot see through your hero bakkies then you are just bloody blind. Now piss off and go play with your marbles. Where did you see me applaude anyone?

      gsaker1 - 2011-08-22 02:00

      Zion u clown where did u learn maths I mean r u serious? that is not even high school stuff. The AB's and the Wallabies have played three and won 2 - lost 1... that...and read this carefully Zion...100% of games played so far is 3 games...that beaks down into 33.333 x 3 ( the .33 part goes on twice only otherwise the decimal point gets stupid for practical purposes when dealing with 3rds...therefore Zion the Wallabies and the AB's have won 66.66 of games played...but 25% for South Africa is correct. Maths clearly isn't yr strong point!!!

  • jan.vanzyl1 - 2011-08-21 07:28

    "Looks at the scoreboard", Oom Jan Lotz said. That is all that counts. Butch James should not even be on the bench. Thank goodness he did not come on the field! With John Smit coming on the field, we could have lost the game. He should also now be put out to pasture. Bismarck's body language when coming off the field, was similar to the feeling of all of us.

      BiggestBull - 2011-08-21 08:28

      Bismarck was livid when they took him off and rightfully so. A player of his calibre should never be replaced with someone like JS - it is an insult!

  • Mack - 2011-08-21 07:35

    Good Win for the springboks. Heinrich 4 - All blacks 0. Also am I the only one who thought that du preez was really under par, probably still favouring his shoulder?

      BiggestBull - 2011-08-21 08:29

      Poor Fourie had a shocker...

  • ohsa.online - 2011-08-21 07:40

    I could not understand why there has been this media spin about sonny boy williams, he is just so, well, ordinary! Nothing special about him at all, actually. I thought the Springboks played well, that Hanaba had a decent game which has been lacking for ages. Our scrummie was not at his best, that is OK .. the rust will wear off. Brussow, well just say that he typifies good, old fashion SPRINGBOK RESOLVE. The tackles made by our forwards were the cause of the Kiwis making the errors which resulted in converted penalties. Same would have happened if their so called *form players* had been hit by those tackles. Our defense was OK, our offense needs to straighten the line from the get go, and not drift towards the touchline. That drift makes it easy to defend against and leaves the opposite flank vulnerable. Anyhow, 18 - 5 is a healthy scoreboard in any game. BOKKE!!!!!

  • Lewis - 2011-08-21 07:51

    What everyone conveniently forgets is that this was the AB's B team. When SA played in Aus and NZ with their B teams, (and lost), everyone was shouting from the rooftops - 'remember its the SA B team'. Why are the tables now turned?

      BiggestBull - 2011-08-21 08:24

      Because the Boks showed great courage and commitment for the first time this year and that alone is a step in the right direction.

  • FM150 - 2011-08-21 08:06

    The frontrow won the match for us last night! Anybody who knows rugby would agree it was a world class performance second to none by the pack only to be made to look scrappy by the backlines inability to capatalise on that momentum (except for Steyn and the territory gameplane used ones again and i think its not by choice) As a matter of fact, last night a game agains England (with their pack and a onform Wilkenson) would of been a much tighter mach. But well done to the Boks and the forwards!

      BiggestBull - 2011-08-21 08:22

      Our scrumming was incredible!

  • patrickb - 2011-08-21 08:20

    Yesterday the biggest Bok fan was not player 23, but the ref. Could we please have him for all our future internationals.

      BiggestBull - 2011-08-21 08:21

      Please unpack your comment. Thank you

  • Christos - 2011-08-21 08:23

    Well done bokke

  • ChumScrubber - 2011-08-21 08:32

    Must agree with Biggest Bull on Fourie du Preez, but it is unusual for him to have a bad game - if he gets back to his old form he's still No.1 choice.

      BiggestBull - 2011-08-21 08:43

      Agreed, F duP on form is an incredible player.

  • Rich Moolman - 2011-08-21 08:40

    To me, the 2 matches against NZ proved that their A team is better than our B team, and our A team is better than their B team... That's not too much to go by... Bring on the World cup I say... That seed of "choke" will have the final say in the semi final...

      fullmoon - 2011-08-21 09:00

      Agree on the A team, B team comment...now where is Rob Jones this morning???

  • david.sportsman - 2011-08-21 09:01

    I just love reading the comments of supporters from both sides on here...Makes me smile! To the ones that want to see us (the BOKS) score more tries than the opposition, I have only one thing to say...There is NO PRIZE for scoring the most tries in a match :) - A win is a win and in WC matches, especially a semi and final, I do not care what the opposition managed to do, but if we end winning the game 18-5, or even 18-17, without scoring a try, I will be proud of the guys!! If you truly know your rugby, and sport in general, you will know that a lucky goal or no tries in the entire match do not have the final say - it is the SCORE BOARD that talks the loudest! Well done MY BOKKE!! I will never turn my back on you guys....:))

  • Henni Apple - 2011-08-21 09:05

    guys remember it was NZ "B" team, so we need much more than this. it was a boring game, we won and it prove we can kick

  • gansgatte - 2011-08-21 09:08

    if you would like to test your defence against the best teams in the world before the RWC, the TN must surely be the arena to do so -- give the opisition the ball and let tham run at you -- not only do you get the opportunity to test your defensive lines & comms, but the oposition shows their hand on attack. RWC are won through discipline under pressure. just asking?

  • fromthecouch - 2011-08-21 09:10

    The Boks were nothing special and if that is the best we can offer, then the world cup will be a distant dream. I can't get excited about that win, it was a decent effort and all, but if that really is the best of the Boks, we have really fallen to the bottom of the barrel.

  • blanco_pta - 2011-08-21 09:17

    BOKS FOR LIFE. I’m proud of the boks. You go get it boys in RWC. My concern though is the lack of ideas when we are in possession of the ball. We are not good enough in off the ball moves and support of the player holding the ball is still a big concern. As a result we can’t easily penetrate the opposition defence. Morne Steyn is a killer, however, I think we are depended too much on him for the points. We need to bring back the trickery and dummying so that we can get tries. Besides all the this, WE WERE THE BEST. Our defence is superb. VIVA BOKKE.

  • David - 2011-08-21 09:20

    good win by the boks,but if we want to win the world cup we will have to score tries against the AB and the aussies.the AB were missing 8 or 9 first team players,but still made more attacking chances than the boks,thats a worry.great game by brussouw and bismarck,not sure why we keep bringing danie russouw on,he doesnt add anything to the team.anyways,onto the world cup we go.

  • Byron - 2011-08-21 09:25

    brussouw i salute you my friend!! now your face shows true guts and determanation!! thanks for that killer game you played!! to the rest of the boks i wish you well in the rwc!! BRING THAT WEB ELLIS BACK HOME!!!! GOOOOOOOOO BOKKE!!!!

  • Tiger - 2011-08-21 09:37

    Show some respect for the Haka????? WTF?????? I have more respect for Robert Mugabe than for the All Blacks and their wardance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Aquarius3811 - 2011-08-21 09:40

    Listen, to be totally honest it was completely refreshing to see a referree actualy blow up the All Blacks for forward passes... This should definitely be enforce in the World Cup, as the Aussies and AB's are really good at passing forward!!!

      Aquarius3811 - 2011-08-21 09:46

      "enforced" Also, next in line, should be straighter throw ins at the line out...

  • Bill - 2011-08-21 09:42

    Not pretty. A lesson on how to win without the ball - wonder if this formula will work again and again?

  • FRANS - 2011-08-21 09:52

    Shame! Mass histeria after Bok Hardebaarde beats Kiwi Kindergarten and that without a sniff of their tryline. Old Bokke being ploughed into the ground with only a the likes of Brossouw being a glimmer of post WorldCup hope.What is Miff Diff's plan for the next four years?Let me propose a bit of Siener Van Rensburg here; Miff Diff stays on as coach till after the World Cup in 2019 where the Boks(by now called the Boloks) lose the plate final to Namibia.His stunt in parliament as some kind of minister only lasts three months as he repeatedly wakes the whole government with his alien vocals.He then buys a Kentucky franchise in Gansbaai where he is promptly slapped with a court order banning him from speaking in public.Our Bok captain, by now 43 years old,also makes his last World cup appearance and with the money left(after paying multipal bribes to his coach for inclusion in the Boloks team)buys a cattle farm at Mooi Rivier which is seized by President Malema and handed over to Somaliens who claims to be descendants of Dingaan. Fluit Fluit my storie is uit.

  • Johann - 2011-08-21 09:54

    Give that team a Bells!!! The one man they should keep cotton-balled is Brussouw, he is vital to our success. And by the way, All Blacks did not score a try either, it was a forward pass and the linesman was oblivious, my 8 week old puppies have better eyesight !!!!