'All Blacks use dodgy tactics'

2010-08-18 07:49

David Long - Rugby Heaven

Johannesburg - Springboks vice-captain Victor Matfield has accused the All Blacks of dodgy tactics ahead of Saturday's Tri-Nations Test in Soweto.

In South Africa's first media conference of any substance Matfield accused the All Blacks of jumping the gun at lineouts.

The 98-Test veteran believes in the two Tests against the All Blacks this year, the ball was thrown into the lineout too soon and he has put the onus on Welsh referee Nigel Owens to stamp out this practice.

"It's one area where we would like to put them under pressure. If we can just get them to form the lineout and don't throw it quickly in," Matfield said.

"Firstly it's our aim to stop them throwing it in without us getting there.

"If we can get that hopefully we can put some pressure on their lineout."

It's a tactic that hasn't been mentioned before but it's obviously something the Springboks have spent time looking at over their three weeks of down time.

The lineout is just one area where the Springboks are looking at to make improvements following a disastrous start to the Tri-Nations which sees them without a single point after three tests.

But Matfield was less forthcoming on other areas where South Africa need to improve.

"There are quite a few things we need to be better at, but I don't want to go into those details," he said.

"I think we know we weren't as good as we should have been overseas, we were maybe 10-15 percent off our game and we need to fix everything. Everything needs to be better and then we'll stand a chance."

Having a Test played at the National Stadium will be a first at the weekend, but it's not the first time Matfield will have played in Soweto.

His Super 14 side, the Bulls, played their Super 14 playoff rugby at Orlando Stadium in Soweto earlier this year and because of this he knows how significant it is to bring a test to the black township.

"The guys are looking forward to it," he said.

"It will be the biggest crowd I've ever played in front of, so that's going to be amazing.

"With us having had the experience in the Super 14 semi-final and final we've seen how the whole of South Africa went to Soweto and really enjoyed it.

"There are so many people who want tickets and there are no more left. It's going to be a great experience and hopefully we can make it better by getting a result on the day."

Meanwhile, Matfield played tribute to Springboks captain John Smit, who'll be playing his 100th Test at the weekend, but he added the best way to mark this milestone is with a win.

"It's a great achievement for John," he said.

"He's a guy that everyone in South Africa looks up to. He's been great for our country, so it's a special day.

"John would love the team to focus on the game and to win the game and that's the most important thing for us.

"Although it's a special day for John, we first need to win the game to make it so much more special and afterwards we'll enjoy it."

Rugby Heaven

  • PDV/Quota-Hater - 2010-08-18 08:02

    ...Go Kiwis..!! ...Go Aussies..!!

  • clint - 2010-08-18 08:03

    Guys, shut up and try and do your talking on the field. This badmouthing as losers is PATHETIC. Try and win something, but with Div at the helm, I know you have no knew ideas and nowhere to get them. Shut your traps.

  • fuzzy - 2010-08-18 08:06

    It has taken 3 hames to realize this Vic? You guys were tactically inept and not living up to the hype as the best lineout in the world. Whinging to the ref wont hekp either as they will blow youo out of the park after the clown launched his attaack on world rugby.

  • Neil - 2010-08-18 08:06

    Well, the quick throw in by the AB's is to nullify the Bok lineouts, and there is nothing wrong with that since they play more clever, they also kick less and hold on to the ball more in the phases. It's about homework, if ypu kick out make sure it is into the crowd. And I do not say the guys are not fit but it seems we are too slow getting to any breakdown, so we lose the chance for a quick ball. Anyway, let's see what the Boks did with their downtime and if they worked on their faults.

  • Bob - 2010-08-18 08:08

    Stop! Stop bloody whining! I have thought that the AB's push it to the "legal-limits" in almost all areas of play but we are getting tired of the excuses. Do it back! If they get to the line out quicker then dont you think that you should work on your speed & fitness so that you can get there too? Next we gonna hear that that run too fast & tackle too hard.... & that aint fair!

  • adam - 2010-08-18 08:10

    There are to many old crocs in the SA Ruby team - yes that is what it must be called noty "BOKS" as in the previous Apartied regime. Matfield , John Smit and several others must go there time is over they keep the team from performing at its peak.

  • BOKFAN - 2010-08-18 08:11

    I WONDER IF THEY ARE ALL GOING TO PUT PILLOWS UNDER THEIR JERSEYS FOR A TEAM PHOTO? i hope they learned their lesson from when they all acted like nobs before Monty's 100th!

  • Jean-Louis - 2010-08-18 08:14

    Excuses, excuses, no dodgy tactics Mr. M, they just play bloody good, theya re extremely fit, and they clearly love the game more than whoring themselves out for sponsorships. And as for the % off the game, I would say more like 30-40%. How does jumping the gun at lineouts warrant someone running through all our defences for almost 80m to score a try. Look the the all blacks, they look like bulldozers on a mission, we hardly ahve the guys to match.

  • Andrew - 2010-08-18 08:14

    What a bunch of whiners these so-called Boks are. I call the Springbaboons. Instead of moaning why don't they learn how to play rugby. The All Blacks are quick at all points and The Springbaboons want them to wit for the grandmothers.

  • Sylvester - 2010-08-18 08:15

    Don't look at the All Blacks for your poor rugby playing. Admit that they are better than you try to improve your game.HA!HA!HA!

  • nigel - 2010-08-18 08:17

    The All Black sat down after last years T nations whipping & said how can we beat the Boks so called “boring" game, they came up with a plan that in many instances pushes the limits of what is permissible & in some cases is just plain professional cheating. For this to work they need refs (& SANZAR Officials) to be sympathetic towards their style of play & give them the benefit of the doubt when caught infringing. They call is thorough planning & clever preparation, we call it professional cheating & bias. Then along came Bakkies & made this plan so much easier to implement, in the very 1st game, Botha is caught doing, probably, one of the most stupid thuggish, things since Brad Thorns spear tackle on John Smit after the whistle (which to this day goes unpunished). Bakkies set the tone for the rest of the away leg & PdVs PR ineptitude did the rest. This is how I see the sequence of events that led up to this Saturdays game. Victor Matfield refers to just one these professional cheats, but there are many more & im sure on Saturday we will see the ABs continue with their new "style" of play & the ref continue to be sympathetic to it, with the full backing of Paddy O Bian, im sure.

  • Grant - 2010-08-18 08:20

    Nigel Owens is busy sharpening his carving knife for the boks, and with Divs crazy selections, well saturday doesn't look promising. Good luck Bokke, you're gonna need it.

  • Mark - 2010-08-18 08:22

    OK so where did he once use the term "Dodgy", the all blacks have simply been smarter than us. Is there a rule which dictates as to exactly when the ball should be thrown in? I'm not sure. Stop being a sore loser Victoria and adapt

  • Matt - 2010-08-18 08:23

    You guys on this blog are all idiot loosers!

  • @PDV/QUOTA-HATER - 2010-08-18 08:25

    ...Go Away..!! ...Go F@rk Yourself..!!

  • test player - 2010-08-18 08:36

    you know i wish we had a team and coach that would not complain, and just get on with it....even if the opposition are blaten cheats and the refs are clearly blowing against us shut shut up and get on with it dont cry like babies....hell i would respect you boys a hell of alot and then be full behind you guys and coach.....but when you oaks moan and groan like old women with wet panties then that just irritates the hell out of me because i really cannot handle a cry baby....c'mon oaks just get on with it and leave the moaning to your wives.I BELIEVE ALL THIS MOANING actually just worsens your performances as you seriously loose focus on the game at hand

  • Thomas - 2010-08-18 08:40

    funny thing is, if they win on Saturday they will be everybodies HERO again!!! Stop criticizing guys, support your country whether they win or loose, thats what true supporters do!!

  • Spartan - 2010-08-18 08:41

    @ all, go read this blog, & youll get an uderstanding of what going on in Rugby Union at the moment. As much as some of you hate PdV or your own country, this will put it all into perspective, yes.... ....ahhhh, you say, I finally understand the bigger picture, Paddys & NZ's picture.

  • Stop moaning !!! - 2010-08-18 08:45

    I'm not quite sure about this new Springbok complaint. If it is your ball at line out, surely you can throw whenever you are ready. Maybe if the players stop walking to lineouts, then we might be in a position to actually compete or prevent them from throwing in quickly. If the forwards did run the the lineouts, they might have been without a scrumhalf. I'm nit sure Ricky January would have been able to reach the lineout in time. Coming to think of it, he wasn't in position even with his forward walking around. I see PDV still has faith in January and the Bok team will only ged rid of him once he retires or PDV finally gets the boot up his arrogant ass.

  • Burger - 2010-08-18 08:47

    Please stop the bitching and prove that the BOKS are the CHAMPS on the field.Please start playing the ball and the game and not the man.

  • Weepee - 2010-08-18 08:51

    The referee is the person that makes the calls. I am so tired of hearing the media calling them cheats. Master tacticians would be a better description. If they have identified getting to the lineout on their own ball a lot quicker than the Boks is a way to stop Victor contesting, does that make them cheats? I'm also pretty sure Victor is not whinning or calling them cheats. He has identified this as a problem the Boks need to rectify and making the ref aware of it is the right thing to do.

  • Kobus - 2010-08-18 08:52

    Ek het nog nooit gehoor dat enige van die wereld spanne so arogant teenoor hulle teenstanders optree soos die "wereld se kampioen span" Suid Afrika met sy spelers;"afrigters' asook bestuur se arogante opmerkings teenoor die 2de en 3de beste spanne wat hulle afgeslag het nie.Springbokke julle is 'n verleentheid vir Suid Afrika met julle arogansie met julle uitsprake en hou op om onverantwoordelik op te tree en bepaal julle by die spel, wees gedisiplineerd, speel die bal en nie die speler dan kan julle dit doen.

  • Jaco - 2010-08-18 08:53

    Just stop saying silly things in the media and making stupid Outsurance adds and start play winning rugby!!!!!

  • Doc - 2010-08-18 08:53

    Real pity about Graeme Smith stepping down as T20 captain....

  • Boytjie - 2010-08-18 08:53

    Oh, Boo Hoo !! Not to the Boks but to the so-called experts on this forum. I have no doubt that none of you EVER managed any team in any league. If so, you would know that the top teams will beat each other and sometimes convincingly too! The All Blacks are coming back from a terrible year of rugby according to their standards. Let them have this year. The Boks are playing below par but it was AWAY games against other top teams for goodness sake. And for the record, we are trying out a few things AHEAD of the WC2011. Stop reading the anti-DIV press too much and WATCH some rugby. You might learn a thing or two.

  • WL - 2010-08-18 08:53

    This article misleads people into thinking Victor used the words, 'All Blacks use dodgy tactics', which he never did. To take something 'implied' and to put it as 'almost quote marks' as the article title, is deceiving people into thinking Victor said those exact words. Then again, there is no such thing as integrity in the media.

  • Logan - 2010-08-18 08:53

    Funny, even the all blacks have admitted to using dodgy tactis, they have also admitted the reffs let them get away with more than they should, yet you iodts mock the BOKS? WOW... how about this, we leave the boks off the field and send you lot into face the all blacks... you obviously think you know all and can do better...

  • koos - 2010-08-18 08:56

    The time for riding on the back of the world cup team is past now the guys are too old. de Villiers have now just shown that he is a "BEE" appointment and don't actually know anything about rugby, just look at his team.

  • BLOUBUL - 2010-08-18 08:56

    moaner. its pure tactics by the all blacks. they recognize that matfield is the better specialist so they take quick line outs. how is that dodgy? is it illegal?

  • BCC - 2010-08-18 08:59

    What a pathetic loser this guy is. Sort out your own problems first. The ABs don't point out the way SA cheat time in and time out. Signs of a desperate man that knows the writing is on the wall.

  • @PDV/Quota-Hater - 2010-08-18 09:01

    Go away and get yourself a tutu..!!!

  • the prodigy - 2010-08-18 09:04

    He is not moaning, just pointing out one of the many things that the IRB is letting happen when New Zealand does it...its one thinig beating an All Black side that is playing well, but an entirely different thing to beat them when the IRB is blatantly lenient to their infringements. Lets face it, Paddy & the IRB dont want the Boks to win, they dont like our style of rugby & they will do everything they can, (even cheat, seems like) to make sure that the All Blacks are on top & not the Boks. Truth be told, the all Blacks dont need to cheat to win, they are good enough, heaven knows why they still do it.

  • Philip - 2010-08-18 09:05

    Who of all this bitchy critics have played for the Springboks or Super 14? If you have, then you can insult the players and the staff around them. Channel your energy in supprting our team. This insulting is pathetic!!!!

  • PDV/Quota-hater - 2010-08-18 09:07

    GO KIWIS..!! ...GO AUSSIES..!! ..GO KIWIS..!! ..GO AUSSIES..!!

  • Geert Lampen - 2010-08-18 09:07

    Are you kiddin' me? All the above readers are bagging the Boks like no tomorrow! Forgot the euphoria of Super 14? Clearly the SA teams (Stormers/Bulls) are the pick of 2010; so the Boks got it wrong 3 time trotting and everyone is bagging them; if this happened to the AB (and hasn't it in all the World Cups?) their supporters doesn't bag them the way you do. Some teams also 'peak' and currently the AB are on song - but does this mean the SB are useless? Hardly! I feel sorry for the lot of you and hope the Boks will play better to prove you wrong.

  • Mike - 2010-08-18 09:09

    All you Saffers with negative comments about the boks are a bunch of spineless Cu*ts! Yah sure our game is not up to scratch and the All Blacks have found a good rhythm in their game, but our potential to be the no 1 team is there as we showed in the super14! You hypocritical idiots that probably have never even played the game before will be the same Cu*ts praising the Boks come the end of the world cup next year...

  • rene - 2010-08-18 09:11

    Matfield Matfield. There is nothing in the laws that the referee must wait for tired people to come slowly to the line outs. The law stipulates when there is 2 players from each side the line out is formed and the ball can go in. So mr Matfield get to the lineout quicker. The referee cannot ask them to wait for people to who are to slow

  • rene - 2010-08-18 09:15

    Matfield Matfield. There is nothing in the laws that the referee must wait for tired people to come slowly to the line outs. The law stipulates when there is 2 players from each side the line out is formed and the ball can go in. So mr Matfield get to the lineout quicker. The referee cannot ask them to wait for people to who are to slow

  • klein kindertjies - 2010-08-18 09:16

    Hoeveel keer moet ek dit nog hoor, lees dit nie eers meer...Jul is soos klein kindertjies wat stories aandra..Pappa, boetie slaan my...Pappa, sussie het my roomys geeet..Publiek, Die all blacks wil nie vir my die bal gooi nie..SPEEL NET FOKEN RUGBY TERUG

  • Marius - 2010-08-18 09:17

    @Mark. A quick lineout can only bre taken if there are less than 2 opponents on the spot where the lineout is supposed to take place . Once the required number of opponents are there the team putting in the ball, has to wait until the lineout is properly formed before putting in thre ball. Even a short line-out has to be properly formed before they can put in the ball

  • kiwi/mauria - 2010-08-18 09:18


  • Dirkie - 2010-08-18 09:21

    From the New Zealand Herald: "Now, the figures seem to prove the point. South Africa are the most regularly penalised, conceding six penalties per yellow card. The Australians' figure is remarkably similar - just seven a card.But by the same calculations, the New Zealand tally is incredible. Official figures show they incur 43 penalties a yellow card, more than seven times the figure of the Springboks." That says a lot doesn't it? Are the Boks' moaning that unjustified? You be the judge...or ref.

  • mike - 2010-08-18 09:22

    To those that say Victor should shut up & stop whining, you are obiously completely oblivious to what Aus & NZ says off the feild about us before a game. They critisize, accuse, whine, moan, attack, its called pre-match psycological tactics. What you need to realise is that, win or lose, biased refereing is not acceptable, it ruins the game & should not be condoned, & if the IRB doen not stop this practise, they Rugby Union will start to die as fast as it is dying in Aus. Its a reality that you just cant ascribe to moaning or whining.

  • Aabels - 2010-08-18 09:23

    Springboks, Stop starring in Outsurance advertisements and start playing decent rugby, you sissies.

  • Brian - 2010-08-18 09:24

    Matfield's comments are as stupid as Div's. The boks are k@k and will not win a game in the current Tri-nations series. Admit that you have been outplayed by vastly superior teams. If they jump early and get away with it, you jump early too. Crying too your mommy about the bully next door ain't going to help!

  • Ice - 2010-08-18 09:28

    Why do the BOks get a northern hemisphere referee in every tri nations test this year? All blacks VS aussies had southern hemisphere referees??????????

  • Happybloke - 2010-08-18 09:31

    To all these bitching about the Springboks get a life, AB has never win a worldcup, Victor is right the AB's does use tacticks that is not in rules and getting away with it, that happened still in the days of the 80,s so nothing new mate, well Boks go out there and kill the AB , let there be a slaughter and Soweto can be rename to the Alblack graveyard AB's rip. Cheers I am an great believer in the worldcup build up nad if you build up to easy you will loose it the Springboks need this weekend to show why they are the best, evry match that new Zealand has played so far they stated behind the ref let them back in or a silly yellow crad but this Saturday it will be war and AB yours going down........ Happybloke

  • stefmeister - 2010-08-18 09:32

    English 101. Loser, Lose NOT loose or looser. Loose is the opposite of tight. Lose is opposite of win. There: referring to place/location etc. Their: referring to something belonging to a group, as in: their team or their right etc. A lot: NOT alot! It is actually two words. Same for 'as well'. It's = it is. They're = they are. And it's not written as theyr'e or their or there. Get the idea! Now learn your basic English from primary school before you want to call other people idiots, without forming a proper argument yourself or backing up anything without facts. Okay Matt? Next week we'll tackle your grammar and tell you where to place commas.

  • GW - 2010-08-18 09:33

    The only thing dodgy here is your brain you dumb plank.

  • D G NORTIER - 2010-08-18 09:33

    Wonderful dear posters but all of you fell for the lying media in NZ. Thanks to Tank Lanning this was Victor's actual and only comment: ["It's one area where we would like to put them under pressure. If we can just get them to form the lineout and don't throw it quickly in,"] Is this not clear proof that the NZ media, the team itself, the australian media and the referees suffer serious loss of intergrity???

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