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Theron: Boks need Smit

2011-04-14 10:48

Gerdie Karstens

Kimberley - There are enough quality props in South African rugby for the Springboks to be competitive at scrum-time during the Rugby World Cup in September, says former Bok prop and current national Under-20 coach, Dawie Theron.

Although it appears at present that Bok skipper John Smit is being nurtured as a loosehead prop as he wouldn't make the squad on current form as a hooker, according to Theron, Smit showed in the Sharks game against the Lions in Durban last Saturday, that he simply has to make the trip to New Zealand later this year.

“John has shown how valuable he is at loosehead. He’s scrummaging was very good against the Lions and it looks as though he is getting comfortable in the position. And, he has World Cup experience, something you can't easily replace.”

Theron believes Bok coach Peter de Villiers will also consider Gurthrö Steenkamp and Tendai "Beast" Mtawarira for the loosehead position.

“Beast showed his scrummaging power when he played against the British and Irish Lions. He will definitely be considered. You can't speak too highly about Gurthrö. He is the complete package. His scrumming is world-class and also has an uncanny knack of scoring tries.”

However, Theron believes it’s at tighthead where the Bok coach will have more headaches ahead of the World Cup.

“He may not have started against the Lions, but Jannie du Plessis is currently playing good rugby.”

“Someone who could be a dark horse is the Sharks' Eugene van Staden. He showed against the Lions that he could be a factor. He just needs to improve his fitness.

“And you can't discount CJ van der Linde. He is able to play both loosehead and tighthead and that will definitely count in his favour.”

"Mobility also needs to be considered, which is something that is not commonplace among props," admitted Theron.

“It is always nice to know you have props that are able to run with the ball, but you can’t compromise scrummaging power for ball-carrying.”

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Comments
  • Gertjie_Mac - 2011-04-14 11:02

    Theron obviously did NOT watch the Crusaders game and how Beast had to come on as a replacement to rescue the demolished sharks scrum with JS at prop. Measuring JS against the Lions pack (no disrespect) is naive and cannot be compared to any of the British, NZ and aus packs. C'mon, get real!!

      Makutu - 2011-04-14 11:48

      I completely agree with you man. I suspect there are people that are getting paid to promote John Smit. In all honesty guys, John Smit in the World Cup will be a seiors Liability to the Bok squad. You can't even compare him to the Beast of Guthro! Not a chance... Why do we need him again? For his captaincy? I disagree. John Plumtree and Peter de Villiers must have removed this guy from his captaincy duties when he turned 29/30 because that's the age where sportsmen tend to slump in performance. and that has been more than evident in the case of John Smit... WE WILL NOT WIN THE NEXT WORLD CUP IF WE PERSIST WITH: John Smit, Bakkies Botha, Victor Matfiel, Schalk Burger, CJ van der Linde, Butch James and all those over age 30 guys! You need young, energetic and in form players at the World Cup!

      sam kaitawa - 2011-04-14 18:00

      @Makutu, You do realize that Plumtree is a Kiwi don't you? Plumtree doesn't mix words. I'd rather watch the Lions v Sharks any day with intuitive rugby than a wannabe SA coach aka CLOWN

      sam kaitawa - 2011-04-14 18:01

      @Makutu, You do realize that Plumtree is a Kiwi don't you? Plumtree doesn't mix words. I'd rather watch the Lions v Sharks any day with intuitive rugby than a wannabe SA coach aka CLOWN

  • sam kaitawa - 2011-04-14 11:09

    "Theron: Boks needs Smit at RWC"........ NZ/OZ/Frogs and Poms need Smit. How on earth can a player let alone a captain that wouldn't last a full 80 minutes call the shots (gunslinger). Smit was (WAS) a fantastic captain and player but if you (SA) go down that track then so was your cricket RWC captain. Like boxers, sometimes it's better to quit while your ahead and leave a legacy (RWC), the Bokkes are better than that but Helium aka the Clown rides the shirt tails of has beens. Smit on the bench as a inspiration for sure, P.Div as a joke most certainly. As a kiwi, I'm saying we deserve to play the greatest rivals of all time and SA are getting ripped off by not playing SA's full potential. Then again, I'm only a supporter of pure rugby and SA might win. (I sincerely hope NZ wins)

      sam kaitawa - 2011-04-14 11:14

      Woops, I meant to say CWC and not cricket RWC (cricket world cup), my humble appologies boets. Doh

      Chronoman - 2011-04-14 11:17

      Spot on Sam. Unfortunately we will have to make do with de Villiers until he is replaced. In the meantime the best players may not be inolved in this year's World Cup. The next coach may be even worse.

      Gertjie_Mac - 2011-04-14 11:34

      @Sam. Agreed. I mentioned a couple of weeks ago, the CWC headlines too often read of player retirements from countries who failed to make it to the semi's. The RWC seems to aim the same direction with too many "Senior" players hoping for non-attainable world cup glory, to the detriment of the national side's success and the fans....

      Ricksta - 2011-04-14 11:49

      100% right Sam. Also glad to hear that it is not only us Saffa's who think our coach is a joke ! It will be an interesting world cup and I'll obviously be supporting our Bokke all the way, but my money will be on the AB's to take it this year. They are miles ahead of anybody else.

      diode - 2011-04-14 12:28

      Sam a lot of our south africans feel the same way, we'd rather have victor matfield captain who has 2 super 14 trophees behind his name and plays the full 80minutes, the springboks is not a charity case for spent players. If we really want to have a chance against the all blacks on their homesoil we'll need all the best players on the field. thanks for your input buddy much appreciated,with less politics and poor teamselection the boks and the all blacks will stay the cream of the crop.

      Cereal-Killa77 - 2011-04-14 16:37

      @ Diode, i wouldnt even have Matfield playing! Let alone as Captain. He just sulks around the field complaining about anything that doesnt go his way. I would have Juan Smith (if fit) or JDV as Captain. Hell even Schalk is a better captain than Moaner Matfield.

  • Agent - 2011-04-14 11:28

    He is past his sell by date. Capish.

  • Louisf1 - 2011-04-14 11:34

    With all due respect to the Lion supporters, right now, to compare any man or incident or scenario to anything from the Lions, does not carry much weight. I believe that the Lions will take up their right-full place among the top teams in Supper Rugby in the near future. When that happens, then you can make remarks about the a player looking good against the Lions. We talking about John having to perform against the top props and scrums from NZ, AUS. That is a total different kettle of fish!

      boyd.lance - 2011-04-14 14:49

      Uhhhh....I think Theron was referring to the British & Irish Lions....

  • sonnyg - 2011-04-14 11:36

    Theron is a great coach. He should be the FS cheetahs coach.

      Hercules - 2011-04-14 17:30

      Anything is better than Naka.

  • Armchair Coa - 2011-04-14 11:42

    You have a point in we need JS. whether your reasons are valid is another debate. You sound like you only watched a few games and as such not enough material to be objective.

  • steve.dupreez - 2011-04-14 11:43

    No no!! You don't understand. They DON'T need Smiff!!

  • AA - 2011-04-14 12:09

    Like we need a hole in the head!

  • AA - 2011-04-14 12:10

    Like we need a hole in the head!

  • kosie - 2011-04-14 12:12

    i wish they would get away from the idea that every SA captain has to be some kind of smit/smith etc.

  • kosie - 2011-04-14 12:12

    i wish they would get away from the idea that every SA captain has to be some kind of smit/smith etc.

  • kosie - 2011-04-14 12:12

    i wish they would get away from the idea that every SA captain has to be some kind of smit/smith etc.

  • Mojojo - 2011-04-14 12:21

    Will Theron be sponsoring Smit’s walker?

  • Lida - 2011-04-14 12:26

    Makutu learn to spell. I agree JS is over the hill. So is Div but it is too late to change the situation. I hope we get to the quarter finals but I doubt it. Sorry my boys.

      Makutu - 2011-04-14 13:39

      LOL! Thanks... I was typing while ina hurry. It's working time, no time to check spelling.

      sam kaitawa - 2011-04-14 14:33

      Lida, hows Kensington Bowling club..... WOW, you're one exciting chick...... come to NZ, I'd love to introduce you to my whanau (family) but I'd be afraid your too savvy. Hey Lida, hope your well. One hundred and eighty, tripple 20's as good as any. You poor thing xxxxx

      Super Steve - 2011-04-14 16:45

      @wmdupreez: I respect your opinion, but I have to disagree. Habana is useless. Gerhard van der Heever...now there is a player. Habana was overrated in his prime and now he is a liability. I will rather start Grant. He is more experienced and he has proven himself. Lambie must be on the bench. (He is a star for the future) Willem Alberts is a better choice at flank than Brussow. I do not understand how you could think of leaving Andries Bekker or the Beast out. Those are the major issues that I have with your dream team.

  • sessisie - 2011-04-14 13:12

    Please Get rid of John Smit

  • sessisie - 2011-04-14 13:12

    Please Get rid of John Smit

  • wmdupreez - 2011-04-14 13:58

    My team for the world cup if fitness allows it with back ups: 15: F Steyn/Aplon 14: Habana/Peterson 13: J Fourie/De Jongh 12: J De Villiers/ De Jongh 11: Mvovo/Petersen 10: Lambie/Grant 9: Du Preez/Hougaard 8: Schalk 7: Brussow/ F Louw 6: Juan Smith (Captain) 5: Bekker/Matfield 4: Alberts/D Rossouw 3: J Du Plessis/ BJ Botha 2: Bismarck/John Smit (needed for his influence) 1: Coenie Oosthuizen/Steenkamp Any comments? Suggestions?

      boyd.lance - 2011-04-14 15:16

      So you'll leave out Beast??? I'd rather have him and Guthro at (1). Interesting move putting Alberts at lock...could work. Your loose forward selection is very versitile, but there isn't any recognised 8th man in your squad. Schalk is more of a flank with the ability to play 8th man. I'd choose either Vermeulen or Spies. I like the backline, well balanced...there are three kickers in the team. However, we all know that Morne Steyn is a certainty at flyhalf. We'll wait & see when the tri-nations arrives to see what the experimental combinations are, but until then...its anybody's guess I suppose!

      Super Steve - 2011-04-14 16:46

      @wmdupreez: I respect your opinion, but I have to disagree. Habana is useless. Gerhard van der Heever...now there is a player. Habana was overrated in his prime and now he is a liability. I will rather start Grant. He is more experienced and he has proven himself. Lambie must be on the bench. (He is a star for the future) Willem Alberts is a better choice at flank than Brussow. I do not understand how you could think of leaving Andries Bekker or the Beast out. Those are the major issues that I have with your dream team.

  • wmdupreez - 2011-04-14 13:59

    My team for the world cup if fitness allows it with back ups: 15: F Steyn/Aplon 14: Habana/Peterson 13: J Fourie/De Jongh 12: J De Villiers/ De Jongh 11: Mvovo/Petersen 10: Lambie/Grant 9: Du Preez/Hougaard 8: Schalk 7: Brussow/ F Louw 6: Juan Smith (Captain) 5: Bekker/Matfield 4: Alberts/D Rossouw 3: J Du Plessis/ BJ Botha 2: Bismarck/John Smit (needed for his influence) 1: Coenie Oosthuizen/Steenkamp Any comments? Suggestions?

  • Zooma Lema - 2011-04-14 14:03

    Juan Smith YES, John Smit NO

  • harold.uberstein - 2011-04-14 14:07

    Theron is obviously out of touch with the form of props and hookers in rugby or he is looking to coach our forwards with smit as captain. It is also time that smit gets a role in one of our TV soapies. He appears on too many adverts for an out of form player. Well I suppose it doesnt matter how you earn your money but come on SMIT yet again I tell you, you are in the way of progress. RETIRE.

  • sessisie - 2011-04-14 14:26

    Please Get rid of Smit

  • Oubaas - 2011-04-14 14:33

    Theron !!!!........where is he from...???

      Andy49 - 2011-04-14 17:59

      Tehran is from IRAN!

  • Oubaas - 2011-04-14 14:38

    We'lll have a better chance under Malema's Captaincy!!.........if they tackle you Mad Enema's bodyguards will shoot them!

  • Oubaas - 2011-04-14 14:38

    We'lll have a better chance under Malema's Captaincy!!.........if they tackle you Mad Enema's bodyguards will shoot them!

  • Oubaas - 2011-04-14 14:39

    We'lll have a better chance under Malema's Captaincy!!.........if they tackle you Mad Enema's bodyguards will shoot them!

  • Andre - 2011-04-14 15:37

    Like any of you ever played for the Springboks!!!!!!

  • Coenza - 2011-04-14 15:38

    yes as a front line coach maybe but not a player!!! Theron is smoking his socks!!!

  • StBad - 2011-04-14 15:45

    The Beast is a must, not just for his scrummaging abilities but he's a fourth loose forward when he runs with the ball

  • The Docter - 2011-04-14 15:49

    I think eugene van staden is great contender for bok tight head! He plays a VERY constant game, his as strong as a ox and fast on his feet!! I'll give him my vote!

  • Jon - 2011-04-14 16:04

    Do none of you idiots remember 1999 and the Gary Teichman saga with Nick Mallet. When he dropped the best captain in springbok history for a injured Skinstad. And in that world cup we needed our real captain to steer us when the pressure was on. We would have won that world cup if Gary was there. This could be the same scenario this time round if John Smit does not go. So suck it up he is going because World cups come down to experience ask the All blacks they know about that. It worked for the Aussies and SA seeing that they have won two world cups each. Idiots that don't know about the game wind your necks in and play soccer.

      sam kaitawa - 2011-04-14 17:01

      Good for you John, the big 'if' prevails. This is NZ's chance for claiming what's rightfully ours...... THE GREATEST RUGBY NATION ON EARTH. And bloody saffas. I'd prefer watching NZ/SA before proffessionalsm. As for Lloyd, mummford, capt town ..... blah blah blah.Professionalism sucks

      Cereal-Killa77 - 2011-04-14 17:01

      Teichman best Bok captain in history......Are you serious?? J. Smit has been by far the best captain in bok history! I do however agree he should not have been dropped for RWC99, he could have played 60min and then Skinstad could have been used as an impact player

  • William - 2011-04-15 00:56

    Only one man for the tight-head berth and thats Brian Mujati. He is in absolutely ruthless form in the NH...demolishing scrums and his work rate round the park is unbelievable. Hope Snor has recognised this.

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