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Spies: We are good enough

2012-07-20 07:36

Cape Town - Bulls captain Pierre Spies says they are highly motivated to prove all their critics - who gave them no chance against the Crusaders - wrong.

Most local and international scribes believe the Crusaders will cruise past the men from Pretoria in their Super Rugby playoff in Christchurch on Saturday.

But Spies says they know they can do the job against the New Zealanders.

"It gives us all the motivation in the world," he told Beeld from Christchurch.

"As a group we understand who and what we are, and who brought us to this stage. We are definitely good enough to win here and progress further in the series."

The Bulls will also take heart from their recent playoff success against the Crusaders. They have beaten the New Zealanders in their last three playoff clashes, although all three encounters were played in South Africa.

In 2007 the Bulls won the semi-final 27-12 at Loftus Versfeld; in 2009 they won 36-23 at Loftus, and in 2010 they ran out 39-24 victors at the Orlando Stadium in Soweto.

The Crusaders won the 2006 semi-final 35-15 in Christchurch.

The game kicks off at 09:35 SA time on Saturday.

Teams:

Crusaders:

15 Israel Dagg, 14 Adam Whitelock, 13 Robbie Fruean, 12 Ryan Crotty, 11 Zac Guildford, 10 Dan Carter, 9 Andy Ellis, 8 Richie McCaw (captain), 7 Matt Todd, 6 George Whitelock, 5 Samuel Whitelock, 4 Luke Romano, 3 Owen Franks, 2 Corey Flynn, 1 Wyatt Crockett

Substitutes: 16 Quentin MacDonald, 17 Ben Franks, 18 Tom Donnelly, 19 Luke Whitelock, 20 Willi Heinz, 21 Tom Taylor, 22 Sean Maitland

Bulls:
15 Zane Kirchner, 14 Akona Ndungane, 13 JJ Engelbrecht, 12 Wynand Olivier, 11 Bjorn Basson, 10 Morne Steyn, 9 Francois Hougaard, 8 Pierre Spies (captain), 7 Dewald Potgieter, 6 Jacques Potgieter, 5 Juandre Kruger, 4 Flip van der Merwe, 3 Werner Kruger, 2 Chiliboy Ralepelle, 1 Dean Greyling

Substitutes: 16 Willie Wepener, 17 Frik Kirsten, 18 Wilhelm Steenkamp, 19 Deon Stegmann, 20 Jano Vermaak, 21 Louis Fouche, 22 Francois Venter

Sport24

Comments
  • Taurus.Blue1 - 2012-07-20 07:41

    Good luck to the Bulls, you are most definitely good enough! We want to see GUTS and GLORY! Will be supporting, shouting for my team...till the end. Go Bulls, Go Sharks, make us proud.

      Taurus.Blue1 - 2012-07-20 07:52

      @Isak, you do speak with a forked tongue.

      Taurus.Blue1 - 2012-07-20 08:04

      @Isak, I know it is difficult to comprehend, but in Pretoria we don't have speech impediments.

      johan.arendse.90 - 2012-07-20 08:24

      isak in pretoria praat hulle van 1 rondt in plaas van 1 rand,dus al plek in die wereld waar hulle so praat,wp jou lekker ding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      jakes.stormer - 2012-07-20 08:53

      Taurus, you are right, in Pretoria you have brain impediments

      japjapjap.wat - 2012-07-20 09:04

      jap ons praat van 1 rand, sop & brood en 'n jerkie, maar niks meer vir di nuwe weepee wees kindertjies, as hulle ni hul gatte roer op di veld ni?? Ek glo almal daar onder is baie baie dankbaar, dat ons hierbo 'n werk-skeppings projek geloots het om 'n paar van di arme weepee wesies en ander agter geblewenis daar onder aan te neem en te probeer help?

      jack.oosthuysen - 2012-07-20 10:38

      Johan Arendse. genoeg gehoor van jou kant .

      dave.short.102 - 2012-07-20 18:20

      As a BIG Bulls fan I need to say. This looks to be a bridge to far my team! I just cant see the bulls pull this one off!!! Spies @ 8 has been crap to say the least, Morne has had better seasons in his life and most of all, the 'strenth'of the bulls, our tight 5 has really under performed this season. @ the start of the comp nobody gave the Bulls a chance, never mind them making the play offs, So all in all, I think we did as good as that can be expected and can stand outside and say "we did the best we could"!!! Bulls for ever!!! O and GO SHARKS!!!

  • maakdiebulle.almalbokke - 2012-07-20 07:45

    Go Bulls ! Show no mercy take no prisoners! Not going to be easy.

      Marcus - 2012-07-20 08:39

      HM already has "maak al die bulle bokke" syndrome...oh well , the Crusaders will destroy you. Poor Pierre Spies will finally show his true class....going backwards at a horrific pace...Go Duanne !!!!!!!!!

      tom.tardis - 2012-07-20 09:14

      amazing how there are still retards around the place, mainly from CT, who believe there are more bulls in the bok team than sharks.

      bulla.loftus - 2012-07-20 09:39

      Jeez Marcus, Stay off the papsak boet. How many bulls are in the bok team? Get your facts right before commenting on something you don't know nothing about.

      tom.tardis - 2012-07-20 10:26

      u cant have 3 8th men on the field at one time. so having the top 3 there wont help because they can play one at a time

  • lionel.kemm.9 - 2012-07-20 07:49

    Good luck Bulls but Ja I can say that it might be a bridge to far for you folk. Morning All

      brandon.styles.14 - 2012-07-20 08:14

      Nobody cares what you have to say Troll.

      lionel.kemm.9 - 2012-07-20 08:48

      You seem to care dipstick,thats why you always comment on my comments.

      francopeyper.vantollen - 2012-07-20 09:40

      Well said brandon, I really wish these trolls would disappear

      tom.tardis - 2012-07-20 10:07

      hate trolls - its beneath me to lower myself to the level of these trolls

      tom.tardis - 2012-07-20 10:23

      nothing wrong with renting hoes bud. if you got it flaunt it chaan

      lionel.kemm.9 - 2012-07-20 11:04

      You terds are not going to get rid of me so easily.

      brandon.styles.14 - 2012-07-20 11:18

      Caravan, you got it wrong mate, I don't rent hoes, they rent me. Be careful, your wife might be one of them.

      jahendel.daniels - 2012-07-20 11:21

      Daar is defniTIEF 'n trol Fucbriek in Tshwane

  • boereroo.jackman - 2012-07-20 07:52

    If the Bulls do manage to pull this one off it will be a HUGE upset. Problem with the Bulls is they have no Plan B. Every backline move is the same, every forward rumble is the same. Meisiekind "sometimes" get the ball, cuts inside into two defenders or Greyling tries to be godzilla and "run" with a team mate having to push him from behind so he at least have some momentum when falling towards the advantage line. And don't get me started on those delayed box kicks of Hougard that get charged down half of the time. If you're going to win the Crusaders you better have a plan B,C,D and E.

      gawie.krotz - 2012-07-20 08:05

      I couldn't agree with more...they still play the same type of rugby Naas Botha played back in the days.

      johan.bosman - 2012-07-20 08:07

      The most irritating thing for me from the bulls is that the Wings never see the ball. There is no wide play there is no way to speed up our attack because it is “run and fall”. Hougard takes forever to get the ball out to Greyling then another ruck, then another 5 min then Hougard pass to Morne, Morne to Wynand and there to ball stops taking another 5 to give someone a chance and see if he can run through the defence on his own. So slow, so No Plan, So predictable. I don’t think the bulls have it in them to win against the Saders. But like always I will Shout and Pray and feel every little emotion.

      Taurus.Blue1 - 2012-07-20 08:17

      @johan, are you for real - wings never see the ball??? Is that why Basson has scored the more tries than any other wing in the competition?

      maakdiebulle.almalbokke - 2012-07-20 08:22

      @ johan , Basson scored 10 tries(1st) Ndugane 4, Kirchner 6

      rinus.groeneveld.7 - 2012-07-20 08:27

      Johan, ek stem 100% saam met jou - word so die blikskim in vir die doellose taktiek. En dan moet ek nog elke 20 minute ook kyk of Spies nog op die veld is want ek hoor nooit sy naam nie! 4 uit 6 verlore MAAR daar is hoop as hulle speel soos teen die Lions. Hougi kon doen wat hy wou, dit het druk van Morne afgehaal en Wynand het klomp kere gepass - JJ het paar nice runs ingekry en Bjorn het meer balle in een game gekry as die res van die jaar! Ongelooflik hoe hy met net een bal elke 40 minute steeds bo-aan die drie-druk lys is!

      Marcus - 2012-07-20 08:42

      The problem with the Bulls is the wings...how to employ a black man ( window dressing ) but keep him away from the ball ?? - easy ...put him on the wing...and fullback.. I'm surprised SARU( and half the black community in Cape Town ) has not seen thru this ..The Bull team is the most racist team in the country

      rinus.groeneveld.7 - 2012-07-20 08:45

      Marcus, waar donner jy nou uit die bus uit?? Idiot!

      deon.fouche.3 - 2012-07-20 09:14

      Jaaaa maaaaaaaaaaan! Hel ou, jy praat baie nonsens

      tom.tardis - 2012-07-20 09:25

      firstly, boereroo jackman. If you're going to win the Crusaders you better have a plan B,C,D and E. when is you idiots going to learn to speek english? you live by australia and you doesnt know you cant win another team. you must to beat them. derpa derpa the main problem with the bulls is the outside backs. they have scored 20 tries between them. this is far too high. i feel like we should be focusing on goalkicking. marcus coloureds will not enjoy being called black btw. and 2 coloured and one black outside back? whats that about? make them all black. then we can have try scoring outside blacks. it might not please the stormers because their idea of rugby is aviva premiership. i think we should get peter grant to the bulls. then offload him to the cheetahs

  • Ettiene - 2012-07-20 07:56

    Ok Spies then show us. Thi is the ideal opportunity, because the way you guys have played is definitly not good enough. If you are going to talk the talk then do the walk as well

  • steveroodt - 2012-07-20 07:59

    Go Bulls Hope to catch two great games on Sat.......... Sharks forever

  • jacques.duplessis.566148 - 2012-07-20 08:04

    Die Bulls ook darem. Spies hou jou bek en speel n slag rugby.

  • charl.koegelenberg - 2012-07-20 08:07

    No sa team has won in Christchurch since 1996. No way that the mad cows are gona do it this weekend. Not even jaco peyper can help you this weekend and I'm sure he wil try to

      Ettiene - 2012-07-20 08:33

      charl jyt dit verkeerd die refs help gewoonlik die Stormers.

      charl.koegelenberg - 2012-07-20 08:42

      Wouldn't knw. Don't watch stormers rugby.

  • Fred - 2012-07-20 08:08

    I hope they haven't been as unprofessional and mismanaged as the Springboks two years ago under Div, when much of the team arrived on Wednesday to play the game on Saturday. The players were literally asleep on their feet.

      hugo.naude - 2012-07-20 08:42

      Glad to see someone else picked up on that ... showed up an idiot coach for the numbskull he is.

  • brandon.styles.14 - 2012-07-20 08:12

    All the criticism will just motivate the Bulls. Bulls by 10. I can see a final at Loftus between the Bulls and Sharks coming up.

      morne.willemse.77 - 2012-07-20 08:31

      Nooit dude!!

      Ettiene - 2012-07-20 08:33

      I am a Bulls supporter maar gee bietjie van daai wat jy rook

      jakes.stormer - 2012-07-20 08:56

      Brandon, jou just had wet dream dude, go wash

  • rinus.groeneveld.7 - 2012-07-20 08:20

    Stop talking and show us and for once up YOUR game - then we'll have a chance!

  • morne.willemse.77 - 2012-07-20 08:30

    As a staunch Stormers supporter it's hard to say rather the bulls than the crusaders.... We can easily beat the Bulls if they were to go through to the finals...

  • hvanderlinde - 2012-07-20 08:34

    HAHA, ja ja, keep telling yourself that

  • john.comyn.18 - 2012-07-20 08:34

    Look I'm not a Bulls supporter & would rather chew broken glass but I would much rather the Stormers play them in the semi. For one thing Newlands is a 2nd home for the Saders and 2nd'ly the Bulls are our BUNNIES! The Bulls have every chance of winning. This Saders side is not the awesome power house they are being touted as. Just for starters they did not win their conference plus they have been eratic all season. The show pony needs to up his game and instead of saying "we back ourselves" he needs to lead by example. Lots to play (Vermeulen is back in training). GO BULLS!

      deon.fouche.3 - 2012-07-20 09:18

      Nick Mallet said Spies is very disappointing and is not good enough. He said the Bulls will not win. Nick Mallet was in the studio

      john.comyn.18 - 2012-07-20 09:25

      Yea I'm afraid so graemeltd. The Bulls are the WP Bunnies The balance has swung back to WP after many years. Live with it pal!

      tom.tardis - 2012-07-20 10:09

      mallet was in the studio again last night on matthew p*oes's show boots and nothing cant remember exactly what mallet said but it was like something like "the stormers will win the super 15" no exact date or year was given, but they do hit rucks

      backstabber.adder - 2012-07-21 06:52

      Tardis jy is commin. And I do not mean the puppet. I mean the puppet master. Hehehehehe...

  • bidi.barett - 2012-07-20 08:34

    i don't wana b negative pierre but we kick to much ball away and our scrums r a mess. Rather use this game as preparation for the rugby championship and the currycup. The saders r just to strong for us. God bless

      tom.tardis - 2012-07-20 09:37

      too much not to much

      tom.tardis - 2012-07-20 09:37

      currie cup

      francopeyper.vantollen - 2012-07-20 09:47

      what type of fan are u bidi. take your head out your vagina and grow some balls. @Tom - well spotted bruv. spell check this fool

      tom.tardis - 2012-07-20 10:10

      i spell checked his ass into next week bud, his whole family can feel the spell check p*oes klap i just gave him

      francopeyper.vantollen - 2012-07-20 10:16

      The beatdown you gave him was sick bro. bidi got knocked the f*uck out.

      johan.spies.18 - 2012-07-20 15:04

      @bidi Hou maar by die Afrikaans jou totale moroon!! En jy sal uitstekend doen op die mofbus hoor mamma se seuntjie

      backstabber.adder - 2012-07-21 06:50

      Spies. A little mental game here. First, if you are an orthopedic surgeon than I am Ariel in the Little Mermaid. Perhaps your real initials are E.E.S. from V, or perhaps P.M. from T. Or perhaps a somebody else I have in mind. Anyway your contributions can best be characterised as vlak and aggressive and one-dimensional. Perhaps not too far off the mark for the real you? Hehehehe...

  • koper.koos.1 - 2012-07-20 08:37

    C'mon Bulls, beat this cheating NZ team in their backyard.

  • piet.visser.129 - 2012-07-20 08:39

    Cruaders het teen Rebels verloor so onoorwinlik is hulle nie.Hoop net die regte Bulls span daag op .Nie n voltydse Bulls supporter nie maar more gaan oor Suid Afrikaanse spanne teen die ou aards vyande in NZ en Aussie.

      niel.walt - 2012-07-20 14:00

      Jy dink aan tri nations

  • smellarat.smith - 2012-07-20 08:46

    There we go again. Sorry, but that is pathetic. Would any NZ or Oz side captain state that: "We are good enough". That is a statement that suggests a cloud of self-doubt. I am not slagging the Bulls here. I just think our sport psychologists need a serious chat with our Saffa Rugby captains. Focus on the opposition and complement them. Say you are prepared and motivated to do your best. Otherwise do your talking on the field. Sigh.

  • johann.mouton.92 - 2012-07-20 09:27

    Didn't FL said they will do their talking on the field? What's this now, are they trying to convince them selves or their doubtfull supporters? Best of luck to the SA teams. Stormers groete!!

  • bulla.loftus - 2012-07-20 09:51

    The heading should read: My team is good enough, but I have doubts in myself...

      rinus.groeneveld.7 - 2012-07-20 09:59

      but my EGO and my new BMW will fix that... :-)

  • pat.cam.71 - 2012-07-20 10:03

    no u not!!

  • vincent.sevenster.7 - 2012-07-20 10:04

    And here I thought after reading the headline that our National Intelligence was making a statement that they can compete with the best of them, stealing state secrets from other governments and actually protecting our country's citizens! But, nonetheless, good luck Bulls!

  • kagiso.k.seleka - 2012-07-20 10:31

    Gees! How many Whitelocks are in this saders side?

      francopeyper.vantollen - 2012-07-20 10:38

      there is 2 white locks on the field and 1 on the bench. Same for our sides also. 2 white locks on the field and 1 on the bench. I think lock is the position with the least amount of transformation happening

      Jahendel - 2012-07-20 13:04

      @ Franco Tom - well spotted bruv. spell check this fool There are 2 ( plural) There is 1 (single) hahahahahaha

      niel.walt - 2012-07-20 13:55

      Sam, adam, george and luke

  • clive.kihn - 2012-07-20 12:32

    Good enough? Maybe. But can they put together, and execute, a game plan to beat the Crusaders? I doubt it. But, for once, I hope I'm wrong.

  • dave.short.102 - 2012-07-20 18:19

    As a BIG Bulls fan I need to say. This looks to be a bridge to far my team! I just cant see the bulls pull this one off!!! Spies @ 8 has been crap to say the least, Morne has had better seasons in his life and most of all, the 'strenth'of the bulls, our tight 5 has really under performed this season. @ the start of the comp nobody gave the Bulls a chance, never mind them making the play offs, So all in all, I think we did as good as that can be expected and can stand outside and say "we did the best we could"!!! Bulls for ever!!! O and GO SHARKS!!!

  • hans.himmler.7 - 2012-07-20 20:10

    The Fuhrer has faith in you. Die Saak is Blou. Black . White . Dynamite

      backstabber.adder - 2012-07-21 06:34

      Vlak ou trying to be deep. Not working. Hehehehe...

      hans.himmler.7 - 2012-07-21 13:29

      Nie so VLAK soos jou span se game nie adder. Hehehehe...

  • dave.short.102 - 2012-07-21 13:00

    WAT Se JY NOU?

      danny.cohen.315 - 2012-07-23 11:22

      Bitter vrot gespeel Spiesie.........LOL

  • ivor.claasen - 2012-07-22 12:40

    Strange, I saw a different approach on \game day\.....

  • juancarlos.navarro.75491 - 2012-07-23 14:26

    Perhaps its time for Pierre Spies to leave the Bulls as his game has gone backward in the last few years. Pierre is a talented, strong fast and al round impressive individual whose game has just not reached the anywhere the levels he should really be at. Perhaps the same old same old at the Blou bulls is the issue. a new start maybe even in NZ in the ITM cup would be a shot in the arm for him. New ideas new coaches and actually using the top 2 inches ?.

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