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Sharks deserved an extra week

2012-08-01 11:59

Cape Town – A fortnight between the semi-finals and final ... that is arguably the best way for the Super Rugby format, as presently constituted, to maintain a greater semblance of credibility.

Instead it is rightly under fire – there has even been some significant New Zealand sympathy this week for the Sharks’ absurd travel schedule – ahead of Saturday’s showpiece in Hamilton between the Chiefs and the bleary-eyed visitors from KwaZulu-Natal.

Scientists may well argue that an extra week wouldn’t necessarily aid the Sharks’ prolific, globe-trotting plight that much, given that jetlag is something with variable “kick-in” times; it can feature delayed reactions.

But you suspect Keegan Daniel’s hard-pressed team would at least feel some sense of mental stimulus, even if it did not automatically transfer to their limbs and muscles, if they’d had the benefit of an extra seven days of preparation, which would be likely to include some elements of complete relaxation and a few relatively “mild” training sessions.

There was just a hint of understandable sarcasm in his thoughts when Daniel tweeted on Sunday, less than a day after the gruelling semi-final victory over the Stormers at Newlands: “Loving OR Tambo, here again, airports are your friend.”

Before the major rugby calendar became so crazily, ever more progressively jam-packed, there was one merciful instance, in 1996, when the final was, indeed, scheduled two weeks after the semis – it didn’t aid the Sharks then, in scoreboard terms, as they were still thumped 45-21 by the Blues in Auckland, but that may simply have been because that was a genuine heyday period for that New Zealand franchise and their home advantage was also a telling factor.

Ironically, this season’s Super Rugby campaign, the second under the debatable new conference system with its extended playoffs phase, did start rather later than last year’s – February 24 as opposed to 2011’s February 18.

Of course it is a complicated issue, because there does have to be an “off-season” – inverted commas intended! -- in some shape or form, and free weekends within the southern hemisphere season barely exist.

The Currie Cup premier division begins as quickly as next weekend, whilst the new-look Castle Rugby Championship, at international level, starts on August 18, and the various Test players involved from the competing countries deserve a freshening hiatus before they get stuck into each other anew. 

But perhaps it is worth contemplating restoring Super Rugby to a slightly earlier start, if it will allow for a gap between the semis and final and simultaneously give its feature game that bit more credibility and a “level playing field” feel?

This week Wynne Gray of national newspaper The New Zealand Herald joined the chorus of sympathy for the Sharks’ agenda woe.

“Sympathy and South Africa are not always comfortable companions in the same rugby sentence,” he said on Wednesday.

“However, the Sharks have got a really raw deal as they approach the (final).

“When they return to Durban, they will have covered 55 000km during the playoffs taking in Johannesburg, Brisbane, Cape Town, Sydney, Hamilton and the points in between.

“You’d be doing well to feel frisky with that itinerary on a holiday, never mind having the physical demands and mental anguish of playing three sudden-death matches, the pool and gym recovery, time spent over computer analysis and a bit on the training track.

“That’s playing with an unfair deck, which will always be a problem in a competition topped with playoffs ... the three-conference system is uneven and flawed.”

Gray said the Sharks winning would be a “monumental effort” and added: “Whatever the result, the Sharks’ tortuous finals route cannot be good for the players or the series.”

And so say all of us?

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Comments
  • colin.taylor.9883 - 2012-08-01 12:07

    The way the Sharks are playing at the moment the victory will taste even sweeter this way. Real rugby players dont whinge, they just play the game. GO SHARKS!!!

      John - 2012-08-01 13:03

      Sharks will NEVER bring home the cup. They are not a champion team remember NEVER not this year or any year !!!

      jimmy.pop.142 - 2012-08-01 13:21

      John STFU!! And this is coming from a Bulls supporter. Go Sharks, make SA proud!! You can do it!!!

      cindy.naude.79 - 2012-08-01 13:29

      @ John, yes, I suppose they've never won any final huh... (i'm rolling my eyes at your totally idiot comment, you MUST be a Stormers supporter!)

      mike.barmby - 2012-08-01 14:31

      As a Stormers supporter and avid rugby watcher I am looking forward to this particular match. With the Argentinian international at flyhalf for the Sharks we will see a very entertaining clash between him and Aaron Carter. Beast Mvovorira will have a big battle on his hands against the Owen Franks brothers. Jonny and Bismark Du Plessis will need to come to the party. I hope that Craig Joubert drops the Australian accent for this game, it really got on my nerves on Saturday. The centre combinations will definitely be testes for the Sharks. Tim Whitehead and Paul Jordaan are going to be testes in a big way by Sonny Boy Williams and Conrad Smith. It's going to be a big battle up front with the tight six. It should be a game of two halves. The first half and the second half. I am just so relieved they use aeroplanes these days to travel because it would have taken a long time to use a yacht to go to Australia for a stop over like the Sharks did and then after three days go to New Zealand. And the worst part would have been in those days there was no TV so I wouldn't be able to watch the game. Modern technology hey! If the Sharks win, I will probably support them because the Stormers have really let me down.

      greg.foster.391 - 2012-08-01 15:36

      @Mike. Michalak is French and the Franks brothers play for Crusaders, Conrad Smith plays for the Hurricanes and Steve Walsh is the Ref for the final.

      skinfaxi.mordor - 2012-08-01 16:08

      "Whitehead and Paul Jordaan are going to be testes in a big way" One of the funnier typos I have seen in a while.

      tim.kilpin - 2012-08-01 16:21

      John you are a f... u. Who do you support anyway?

      mike.barmby - 2012-08-01 17:07

      As a Stormers supporter and avid rugby watcher I respectfully disagree.

      1amAlan - 2012-08-01 17:28

      John, you're a real w@nker.

      1amAlan - 2012-08-01 17:30

      Cindy, I'm a Stormers supporter. John may be, but please don't paint us all with the same brush.

      skinfaxi.mordor - 2012-08-01 18:00

      I did not realise that the center pair were now being reffered to as testes. Well you learn something new every day. While it is true that the Sharks will suffer greatly from having one of their testes in Durban while the other is in Hamilton, when one thinks of hard working testes JP immediately comes to mind. As a Sharks supporter (and testes need good support) and avid rugby fan I do not hestiate to say that Sonny Bill Williams will have his hands full with our two testes to contend with.

      shooshyu.tu - 2012-08-01 18:26

      anyone else spot the sarcasm in the 1st comment by mike.barmby, the give away is the players names?

      skinfaxi.mordor - 2012-08-01 18:36

      One day on Sport24….. Sharks coach John Plum said today that although his testes were feeling drained by a long hard busy season he expected them to be tighter in the next game. “It’s not like they just hang around in midfield the whole time” he said. When asked why the center pair are now being referred to as “testes” John replied saying “You have to be nuts to play in that position”

      mike.barmby - 2012-08-01 18:40

      As a Stormers supporter and avid rugby fan, I respectfully disagree. I am not a sarcastic person. I am just an avid rugby fanatic and have only recently picked up on the game. I do not claim to be an expert but to call me sarcastic is not very fair. I do try my best to understand the game such as the offside rule, hand ball, taking a corner kick etc. What really kills me when watching the Stormers is the constant diving that the Mediterraneans started. I really enjoy watching rugby and would like to comment more but I do hope I do not get attacked on this website. I am only trying to expand my knowledge and gain more incite into this game. If you know what I mean.

      mike.barmby - 2012-08-01 18:45

      As a Stormers supporter and avid rugby fan, I would like to congratulate the shining mane - you have lit up my day. I am very happy to be among such esteemed and intellectual genitalmen

      sean.howlett.71 - 2012-08-02 01:50

      Maybe the Stormers need a years break !! lol

      skinfaxi.mordor - 2012-08-02 09:29

      I must admit Mike, at first I was confused. I thought, this guy is an avid rugby watcher, supports the Stormers blindly but doesn’t know anything about the rules or names of the players and comments on what he wishes happened and not what actually happened and then I realised…… You’re Bobby Skinstad! Good on ya mate. Put a smile on my dial.

      shooshyu.tu - 2012-08-02 21:16

      @Skinfaxi - I think this is the renamed Dom.ReTardis with another fake ID.

      skinfaxi.mordor - 2012-08-03 14:52

      I don't think so Shoosh. I think Tardis was a teenager who was posting from a cell phone (short comments, no caps). His humor was childish and his comments infantile. He was irritating, crass and craved attention, obviously didn't know anything about rugby and was more interested in trolling than making anyone smile. Mike's comments look silly at first glance until you think about them and then you'll see that there is some very sophisticated humor, very dry and mature. If you've been on here a while you'll notice that he taking the mick out of some of the things we've said. I think it's brilliant.

  • Shnez - 2012-08-01 12:10

    Some crazy Stats!.....Do your best boys!!!!!!

  • david.s.duncan.1 - 2012-08-01 12:11

    Either Sanzar employ Dr Evil and use one of his rays to slow the earth down to buy a few extra weeks in the year, or they shorten the format. Last year it was the Crusaders, this year it's us. Who will it be next year? However, we all start on zero points at the start and had the opportunity to top the log, which we didn't take. The credibility of the tournament is called into question. People still question the Reds win and may likely question the Chiefs if they win - which would be unfair as whoever wins now deserves it. But no complaints, Sharks have the opportunity to make history. Go Sharks!!

      tom.tardis - 2012-08-01 12:40

      sharks beat the top of the log stormers - they are good enough. chiefs showed their worth being 2nd overall and if it hadnt been for really bad TMO decisions 2 weeks in a row they would have been top. they are good enough. they deserve a home final while the sharks were strong in the 2nd half of the tournament not the whole tournament and so must deal with travelling. if they win, it will be the best super trophy win wince the bulls 2007 win when they needed to beat the reds by a million points. whoever wins deserves it because they beat the best to be the best. how can anyone question the tournament? the only reason to question it is why do they not play each other all once and forget about conferences. the super 14 was a perfect tournament. a super 9 would be even more perfect. go sharks. i will shout for u but not as loud as when i want u to beat the stormers

  • dave.short.102 - 2012-08-01 12:12

    Rob point taken, but, if the Sharks played like they did, from the start of the Comp. They would not be in this position. The Chiefs played good rugby, winning rugby from the start. So my point is that the Chiefs deserve to have this Luxury. But don’t let this fool you, the Sharks will give their all come kick off. I believe the Sharks has what it takes to klap those Chiefs hard. Sharks by 3 to 7 Bulls Groete

      skinfaxi.mordor - 2012-08-01 12:31

      Dave if the Sharks had played badly and deserved 6th place I’d agree with you. At the end of game one the Bulls were awarded a contraversial penalty that should have gone the Sharks way. Sharks lost because of this – Referee Mark Lawrence. At the end of the Stormers game the Stormers were awarded a contraversial penalty that swung the game the Stormers way – Referee Mark Lawrence. In Lions vs Sharks away game admittedly the Sharks played terrible rugby in the first half. Still, a try was awarded to the Lions by TMO Gerrie Coetzee despite no visible grounding of the ball. Later a legitimate try was denied by the same TMO despite the fact that the Assistant Ref said he had seen grounding and despite the fact that the TMO failed to adhere to his mandate of answering the question he was asked. At the end of the day the entire South African conference was determined by four 50/50 decisions that didn’t go the Sharks way. How can we moan about NZ refs when our own match officials are responsible for our quandry?

      dave.short.102 - 2012-08-01 12:43

      Every team in the comp can say things like that. What I said was, the Chiefs deserve to have a home final, the way they played throughout the competition showed that. And I also said I really hope the Sharks win, the fighting spirit these oukes showed the last 7 or 8 games, that’s enough for me to give them the win. Bulls Groete

      dirk.naude.12 - 2012-08-01 12:43

      Raven, we all know the Bulls weren't robbed, they just played bad the whole season :-P

      dave.short.102 - 2012-08-01 12:52

      @Rob, yes we played crappy rugby, thats why we are OUT!! Cant undersand why everyone is bringing the Bulls into this, ITS THE SHARKS vs CHIEFS!!! And as a Bulls supporter, I am backing the Sharks, wonder how it would have been if it was the bulls in the final!!!!!!!

      skinfaxi.mordor - 2012-08-01 13:00

      Yes, it’s true every team can point to certain decisions. There’s over 70 000 South Africans who still point to decisions made by Bryce Lawrence in a certain game SA vs Aus. Go back to the last minutes of the game one. Bulls player isolated, Sharks player tries to rip the ball out of the arms of the Bulls player who holds on to the ball on the ground. Because the Sharks player cannot lift a man and a ball off the ground he is penalised for not supporting his body weight. Huh? Go back to the Stormers game mentioned and you will see that the scrumhalf has his hands on the ball. Once this happens he is fair game and can be tackled. When he is tackled a penalty is awarded. In the Lions game (and I repeat the Sharks played Shocking rugby) the TMO went against the rules to alter the result of the game. He is not ALLOWED to answer a different question to the one he is asked (the Bulls won a game against the Cheetahs earlier in the season for that very reason). Secondly the referee cannot overide the decision of a linesman standing meters away with the decision of a TMO who only sees what the camera sees. Yet for this game all the rules went out the window in order to try and save the Lions from relegation.

      dave.short.102 - 2012-08-01 13:07

      Verander nog niks nie, DIS DIE SHARKS VS CHIEFS!!! Klaar en verby!!! Go Sharks!!!!!!

      dirk.naude.12 - 2012-08-01 13:26

      Raven I agree with you 100%, there were some iffy calls made against the Rebels and the Brumbies. The Bulls got lucky :)

      cindy.naude.79 - 2012-08-01 13:32

      @Dave, as a Sharks supporter, I am proud to support the Bulls in any of their games, bar the ones vs the Sharks of course :) if the roles were reversed, I'd definitely be supporting the Bulls, and I'm sure many other Sharks supporters would've been

      skinfaxi.mordor - 2012-08-01 14:20

      Ok Blue Raven let me help you out with your maths here. The Bulls were awarded the the penalty that should have been awarded to the Sharks. This means that the Bulls were awarded 3 points that they should not have scored and the Sharks were deprived of 3 points that they should have scored. This makes 6 points and when you win by 5……

      dave.short.102 - 2012-08-01 14:28

      @Cindy, I am so glad to see 90% of SA rugby fans are in the right mindset, just a couple LIKE ISAK that still need to come to the Party!

  • skinfaxi.mordor - 2012-08-01 12:15

    On one hand there should be some kind of incentive to finish as high on the log as possible but on the other hand if coming in 6th makes winning in the final a statistical impossibility then why bother? At the end of the day we need to ask whether it is good for rugby to have one team hold such an unfair advantage over another in a Super Rugby final. To make matters even worse the Chiefs played their game on a Friday and have an extra day’s rest.

      tom.tardis - 2012-08-01 12:42

      the rest factor has proven unimportant courtesy of the stormers oh wait they lost just because they are k*k. the sharks got into this position by being inconsistent and the chiefs have been the best team over the whole tourney and have suffered at the hands of TMOs. they deserve the final at home and they deserve a win if it goes their way the sharks should try start playing rugby earlier in the season.

      dave.short.102 - 2012-08-01 12:55

      Tom for the first time in ages I can say I agree, with part of what you said. Still think the sharkies deserve a win after everything they did to get there!!

  • reuben.mentor - 2012-08-01 12:16

    I disagree even though I'll be rooting for the Sharks. The Sharks finished 6th on the overall log and they have to go the extra mile to win it. It's sort of like in Formula One where you you have to outqualify other racing drivers in order to start from pole position from where the pole sitter has the advantage of having the inside lane into the first corner. The Chiefs have qualified for pole now that the Stormers have been knocked out and they deserve the inside line into the first bend by having a longerf rest period than the Sharks.

      lindy.leroux - 2012-08-01 12:42

      Dis baie waar, maar die "Inside lane" soos jy se is n home final! as jy formula 1 wil vergeluik kan jy netsowel se, die span wat laaste quilify moet n lap uitsit en dan probeer opvang! Maar ons het onself in die voet geskiet om 6 games te verloor, so ons gaan nie kla oor hoe ons dit moet doen nie, ons gaan net ons beste gee ewn hoop vir n' goeie resultaat vir die Sharks! " J "

      mike.barmby - 2012-08-01 14:42

      As a Stormers supporter and avid rugby watcher I respectfully disagree. If you beat the pole position driver in the semi finals then you should take over pole position because you beat them. That entitles you to their rights. Much like in the Joust, if you unhorse the other jouster, you win his horse. I feel the Sharks won the Stormers horse and deserve to play the final at Newlands rather than in New Zealand.

      TravieGrif - 2012-08-01 14:59

      That's what home ground advantage is...your pole position. What you want is an even playing field as far as possible, with the clear advantage being the home/away challenge or boon. Now you have guys who are physically depleted, and that makes the game unfair. For the game of rugby to be enjoyable, there has to be parity, and the point is that the travel removes that. I certainly hope that the Sharks will be able to last the 80 minutes, because I know that they will be up for it! Sharks Forever!

  • hans.himmler.7 - 2012-08-01 12:16

    From the Wolf's Lair... Daniels - Keep bearing to TRUE NORTH, you are almost there. Bismarck - DESTROY, DESTROY, DESTROY, like the Battleship. Coetzee - Do what you know best, CREATE HAVOC. Mvovo - IMPI Plum - Underdogs have best access to the belly, RIP IT APART. Rest Well my Boys, you are already CHAMPIONS in our books. BLACK . WHITE . DYNAMITE

  • dirk.naude.12 - 2012-08-01 12:20

    Hey, it is the Stomers fault that the Sharks need to travel like crazy. That said an extra week will just make you lazy, case study... Newlands! Sharks are locked and loaded like Kurt Russel, ready to deploy, win and get out victorious. You don't have to take my word for it, the scientists said so too. Go Sharks!!

      tom.tardis - 2012-08-01 12:43

      the scientist said the chiefs will win by 15

      dirk.naude.12 - 2012-08-01 13:04

      No ways dude, who said that? I bet you that scientist was Ross Tucker?

      terry.burne - 2012-08-01 13:04

      No tom.tardis - the scientist said that the Chiefs will start with a 15 point advantage .......that is not the same thing as saying that they will win by 15 points.

      Donne.3 - 2012-08-01 13:31

      Sadly Tom your statement is wrong - it is not about loosing by 15. Here is the extract from the article you are referring to. Tucker after this explains the 15 point handicap for the Chiefs game - however please see this regarding the handicap agaist the stormers... "I was quoted before the match as saying that there was perhaps an 8 to 10 point handicap for the Sharks to overcome. This was interpreted as a prediction that the Sharks would lose by 8 to 10 points, but it was anything but - it was simply a report that analysing the history of the tournament suggested that long travel, plus playing away, was worth a “deficit” of this size before the match even began. Of course either side could still win, but the Sharks would need to be that much better to do so."

      Charmaine Hasell - 2012-08-01 13:56

      Sigh ****blank**** (he can't grasp it)

      john.edwards.733450 - 2012-08-01 15:10

      ffs terry , donne , charmaine .. I'm looking at selling my share of the moon ..interested ?

      Charmaine Hasell - 2012-08-01 15:43

      Hmm, don't think so John.Edwards, hear it's even cheasier there

      john.edwards.733450 - 2012-08-01 17:32

      you sure? .. it has a beautiful view .. ok then , how about this bridge I own in London ?

  • wesley.j.lane - 2012-08-01 12:25

    Go Sharks!

  • cape.maori - 2012-08-01 12:26

    Come now boys and girls, stop complaining about the schedule. The Saarks are to blame for the position they find themselves in. If they lost against the Cape Town Chokers, the Chiefs would have had to travel to the republic. Win all your games and you do not have to travel. The Saders were on the road for most of the 2011 season and came short against the Reds! That is the sacrifice of professional rugby. If the Saarks win, it will be well deserved!

      dirk.naude.12 - 2012-08-01 12:44

      Too bad the Stormers didn't think further than that thought! Ai tog...

      cape.maori - 2012-08-01 12:59

      @Blue'tjie- what, you agree with Maori??? Wonderful, wonderful!!!!

      john.edwards.733450 - 2012-08-01 15:13

      it's true cape..still, for the sake of the spectacle it would be nice to have two fresh teams go at it.

      slick.hounder - 2012-08-02 00:11

      Well I dont care about all you freaks and trolls and bullshi...ers.... Im going to Play with Raven eisch god help my testes i dont want blue testes LOLOL..... Raven u better be laughing Brat LOL...xx:))

  • Denése - 2012-08-01 12:33

    GO SHARKS !!!

  • frankie.koen.9 - 2012-08-01 12:38

    Come Sharks show these people what you think of sport science and jetlag! Behind you all the way From a Stormer!!

      tom.tardis - 2012-08-01 12:48

      *jet lab

  • Louise Whittingstall Barnard - 2012-08-01 12:44

    I disagree!!! The Chiefs earned the advantage they have finishing ahead of the Sharks! Are the Sharks already making excuses and they have not even lost yet!!

      dave.short.102 - 2012-08-01 13:08

      ISAK SUURGAT!!!!!!!!!!!

      dirk.naude.12 - 2012-08-01 13:21

      No the Sharks aren't making any excuses. It is the Herald's science editor Wynne Gray talking nonsense in the name of quack science again. In a matter of fact, Daniel's witty remark oozed confidence. Go Sharks!!

      Donne.3 - 2012-08-01 13:33

      Sharks are not the ones making excuses...

      David - 2012-08-01 13:37

      Where do you see Sharks making excuses? Those lemons are mighty sour hey

      donavan.boshoff - 2012-08-01 14:01

      Who is making excuses? We (sharks supporters) always knew it was gonna be tough due to finishing 6th. Win or lose we have had an outstanding season coming from nowhere to get to where we are. I am a proud sharks fan and personally stoked to get the party started earlier on saturday. SHARKS FOREVER!!!

      donavan.boshoff - 2012-08-01 14:02

      Oh and you are a HANDSOME young man, pity about the girls name

      shane.hayne.92 - 2012-08-01 16:08

      No excuses necesary for the Sharks , but hey would nt a evenly matched Final do more justice to the winner at the end of the day !! Or perhaps the Chiefs could nt handle a fit and \ jet lag free\ Sharks team ......... SHARKS4EVA ,,,,, it will be huge if we win ,, odds are against us but we ll go down fighting if that has to be the case !! Sharks for the Win !!!!

      Jandl Reevo Reeves - 2012-08-01 18:33

      She's a ugly woman with sour grapes because her lil stormers got trashed.how can you as a south African possibly disloyally want the the chiefs to win but you have guaranteed congratulate la clos for his olympic gold medal who can I mention is a natal boy born in Westville ....stoooopid ginger cow

      franklyn.davies.1 - 2012-08-02 21:10

      Jandl,wernt you the one getting all whingy when a certain person made comments about your missus looks ? grow up china,no need to get personal.

  • johan.naude.750 - 2012-08-01 12:44

    Nope cant say that I agree with the deserved breather but I do commiserate. If they won more games in the lead up to the playoffs they would not have had the travel arrangements from hell. Well done to the sharks to get where they are though. I dont think many people expected it.

  • willem.pelser.9 - 2012-08-01 12:45

    Ill be supporting the sharks on saturday there is just one thing that needs to be said about this story the sharks played them self into this position and should blame them self for all there traveling they have been doing I feel if they did not want to travel this much they should try getting them self into a better log position , SO SHARKS stop crying about all ur travels and play the game as best u know how and bring the cup back to sa

      press.enter.12 - 2012-08-01 13:19

      Nobody can prepare and play rugby in the sweltering heat of tropical Durban's summer in February/March. Is it then their fault that they have to pace and stay within themselves in the early part of the season ? (and now some idiots in Australia want to start the competition even earlier)

  • lloyd.lucas.545 - 2012-08-01 13:09

    too bad, so sad...

  • cindy.naude.79 - 2012-08-01 13:28

    as a Shark supporter, I find it interesting that not ONE article mentions the fact that it is their own fault that they have to travel for the final game! If they had finished higher on the log, they would've had a home final, simple as that. Nevertheless, I hope for a victory for my Sharkies, they certainly deserve it!

  • deon.fouche.3 - 2012-08-01 14:02

    As everybody is having their own opinion, I guess we will have to wait and see what the general Nick Mallett will have to say about the changes of a Sharks victory? I say general because only he can hit the rucks in the studio! Then again... didn’t he say the Stormers will win the S15 this year? Tom... you still has his memo?

      dave.short.102 - 2012-08-01 14:30

      LOL!!! In your face Tommy

      cape.maori - 2012-08-01 14:31

      hahahahahhaha

  • Louise Whittingstall Barnard - 2012-08-01 15:18

    Go Chiefs!!!! enough already!!!

      donavan.boshoff - 2012-08-01 15:50

      Do you model?

      mark.polley.336 - 2012-08-01 16:43

      With supporters like these, no wonder the largest amount of boo`ers come from Newlands.......pity

      dave.short.102 - 2012-08-01 17:20

      SUURGATTE

      Jandl Reevo Reeves - 2012-08-01 18:25

      Louise....you a big cock!!!

  • bruceqg - 2012-08-01 16:03

    Rubbish ,.......A lot of teams traveled and played that same wk/end.!!

  • bruceqg - 2012-08-01 16:06

    Now all of a sudden its a SA thing, teams from other countries see it as provincial .GO CHIEFS!!!!

  • Louise Whittingstall Barnard - 2012-08-01 16:22

    @press.enter.12 If the Sharks cannot prepare for the Super 15 during Feb and March when it is very hot in Durban, or find it hard then maybe they should bow out and give the Kings a chance?

      dave.short.102 - 2012-08-01 17:20

      SUURGAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      1amAlan - 2012-08-01 17:40

      I think maybe the Stormers should have a by next year to make place for the Kings.

      Jandl Reevo Reeves - 2012-08-01 18:24

      Maybe they should try play currie cup rugby first ....it would be like the bokke playing Zimbabwe

      fiona.warren.733 - 2012-08-02 06:11

      @Louise- sssshhhhh! you are letting the side down you silly woman!

  • troy.kimpton.5 - 2012-08-01 19:24

    no they dont,the rules have been this was for years.obviously they should be changed but thems the breaks!

  • micheal.vandenberg.7 - 2012-08-01 21:45

    Johan, you will NEVER stop being a LOSER!

  • mthunzi.phakathi - 2012-08-02 11:30

    Has anybody come across an article or heard anyone from the sharks camp complain about this scenario? I am sure that they resigned themselves to the fact that should they pull it off, it would be in this manner. The media and certain fans are complaining.

  • norman.harris.754 - 2012-08-02 20:34

    This is such a roost..!!!. if the Sharks ran the table during the regular season we wouldn't be talking about this. The 'advantage' in the playoffs always goes to the side that earned it the most during the regular season. That is the premise of a rugby season in its entirety - not just the last week or for that matter 3/4 of the season - THE ENTIRE SEASON. Some people now are blaming Sanzar for what? These are the rules as everyone knew it when the tournament started...this sounds like sour grapes on steriods.! I agree, the sharks were the best team towards the end of the season but not the entire season. Remember, they were waiting to see if they can even make the playoffs because the first half of their season was very average...? This article is riddled with double talk and sentiment that only makes sense if you are vested emotionally in the Sharks. When the crusaders or bulls did it, i dont remember all this rubbish....man up and do the job and stop trying to figure out where you were wronged...!!! This is article is pathetic, and so are those that take to it - you guys sound surprised that this would be the case should the Stormers lost and the Chiefs won. Somebody look up the article written right after the Sharks barely made the playoffs - everyone knew this would be the case....STOP THIS NONSENSE....let them earn it without speculation of wrong doing for a change..!!!

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