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S15: Tiaan is turnover king

2012-05-22 11:46

Cape Town – Stormers hooker Tiaan Liebenberg has climbed to joint-top of the charts for most turnovers in Super Rugby after Week 13.

The burly Liebenberg, following his team’s latest, hard-earned victory over the Waratahs at Newlands, heads the statistics in that category alongside Tom McCartney, who also wears the No 2 shirt for the ailing Blues – they have reportedly executed 29 turnovers each.

Another hooker, Springbok Bismarck du Plessis, who put in a big showing for the Sharks in their Bloemfontein triumph over the Cheetahs despite getting another 10 minutes in the sin bin, lies joint fourth on 26 with the Highlanders’ ever-industrious flank Adam Thomson and, interestingly, a less likely customer in Bulls fullback Zane Kirchner.

The stats are issued weekly by Australian newspaper the Sydney Morning Herald.

What the latest figures do appear to indicate is that South African teams in the competition, generally speaking, still favour fairly conservative, kicking-conscious game plans.

The highest-placed South African player for “most run metres”, for example, lies in eighth spot – it is the bottom-placed Lions’ versatile backline player Jaco Taute (736m). All of the top seven slots are occupied by New Zealanders.

Bulls flyhalf Morne Steyn, by contrast, continues to boss most of the various kicking categories, including most tournament points with 167.

He has also been responsible for “most kicks” (112) with the Stormers’ fullback Joe Pietersen, who is often engaged in bouts of tactical ping-pong with rival kickers, next on 107.

For most kick metres, these two also head up proceedings: Steyn with 4,726m and Pietersen with 4,274.

There are also three South Africans among the top five for most tackles thus far: Marcell Coetzee of the Sharks is third with 168, the Stormers’ Siya Kolisi fourth (155) and Cheetahs’ Heinrich Brussow fifth (151).

The leaders here are Matt Todd of the Crusaders (178) and Western Force captain David Pocock (176).

*Follow our chief writer on Twitter: @RobHouwing

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Comments
  • daan.enslin - 2012-05-22 12:12

    Where can the rest of the statistics be seen? I would really like to see which players conceded the most turnovers. In 2007 and 2008 Pierre Spies topped this list (most conceded) with Luke (Puke) Watson (and really do not like this!) topping the list for most turnovers won.

      Jono - 2012-05-22 13:04

      Wag vir Japjap...hy weet alles...hy sal nou vir jou die website addres stuur!

      Stefan - 2012-05-22 15:19

      http://www.rugbystats.com.au/rugby/super15/player-stats.html?refresh=1337692550997

      Bossie - 2012-05-22 23:46

      @JapJap- jy is moeeeeeeeer funny!! Ek bewonder jou vir al jou oorspronklike en skerp humor!! Nou.. liewe JapJap.. lees weer jou post.. en dan kyk of jy kan uitfigure of ek ernstig of sarkasties is.. (n tip om dit vir jou makliker te maak- dis net 1 van 2 keuses)

      Bossie - 2012-05-23 13:27

      ... en daar delete JapJap al weer sy comment!!!! Hahahahaha wat n pateet!!

      Tokolos - 2012-05-24 05:25

      Bossie.... Ek dink julle Stommerikke raporteer ons posts by julle News24 WP mense agter die delete knoppie. Nie ek of Jap of enige Bulle supporter sal ooit ons comments delete nie. Hoeveel comments het ek en Jap al hier gepost wat julle warm om die kraag gemaak het? Waarvoor sal ek of Jap ons eie goed delete? Dis ons mission om vir julle die waarheid oor julle flou spannetjie te ontbloot. Ek en nog 'n ander persoon het bv. die stats van julle "Turnover King" Tiaantjie ontbloot as die ou wat die meeste turnovers "AFGESTAAN" het en my post was gerapporteer en delete. Dink jy ek sou dit self delete het? Julle is p#ssies wat nie die waarheid oor julle spannetjie kan handle nie man!

  • Schalk - 2012-05-22 12:21

    around 7 days ago they published stats showing that Morne Steyn "was" the best according to stats at that stage - and i for one congratulated them (all Bulls and their supporters), lets see if/how long it will take to see a Bulls supporter to say well done Stormers/Liebenberg...

      Lionel - 2012-05-22 12:34

      Jy gaan lank wag ouboet:):)

      Klippies - 2012-05-22 12:44

      Baie lank...

      Harold - 2012-05-22 12:54

      Congrats Tiaan. There you go.

      Jason - 2012-05-22 13:08

      He has been impressive this season! Giving it 110% every game! I would love him to get recognized by the national coach but I doubt it will happen!

      hermanus.moolman - 2012-05-22 13:25

      Well done Tiaan. Very underrated hooker.

      Tony - 2012-05-22 14:02

      Hy bly nie in Pretoria nie!

      Jack - 2012-05-22 15:17

      @Jason - he may have more turnovers, but I don't know if he is as strong going forward with ball in hand. He also tends to lose the ball in contact too often for my liking. It's going to be a very interesting match-up this weekend. I think the packs are rather equal, but the Stormers have more in the backs...

      Craven - 2012-05-22 22:38

      You tell them uncle Gwabe, you tell them. The Bulls are going to surprise this weekend. Bonus point win.

      Lance - 2012-05-23 11:00

      @JackBlack..With ball in hand I'd say he is half a point behind Bismarck...which is pretty damn good.

  • Annalie - 2012-05-22 12:36

    I think the statisticians are confusing "fall-overs" with "turn-overs" The only thing that Tiaan can turn-over is his well done steak at their weekly braai

      Stirrer - 2012-05-22 12:49

      Wrong. Tiaan prefers his braaied Bull a little on the pink side.

      LaBlue - 2012-05-22 12:56

      Annalie, you're one to talk ...

      Jason - 2012-05-22 13:12

      I just want to know how long it took you to type out Statisticians?

      Saffa - 2012-05-22 14:04

      Oh boy. It's that Gloster woman again, and her endless references to food.........Butterballs.

      Dirk - 2012-05-22 15:08

      lol butterballs, you can tag this to a certain painting making the rounds.

  • Schalk - 2012-05-22 12:45

    @ Lionel - Ek weet...

      Tokolos - 2012-05-23 02:35

      AAPKOP!!!

  • John - 2012-05-22 12:47

    I see Bismark is the new "no arms" specialist tackle these days.

      Jason - 2012-05-22 13:16

      He didnt have his best game last weekend! The Sharks won despite him!!

      stefan.vanderspuy - 2012-05-22 14:07

      In the first half, there were incidents where he simply "ran over" the opposition, and his shoulders did play a role in the attack. But it was not a tackle, it was actually pretty damn impressive. I can recall one dicey tackle from Bismarck in the second half.

  • Gcwabe.KaMavovo - 2012-05-22 13:49

    Epic fail. This stat is for turnovers conceded, which means that Tiaan is the worst in the comp. Rob please slink away to save face. The stat you are looking for is "pilfers".

  • Jacobus - 2012-05-22 21:14

    mooi liebenberg, hou so aan, go stormerssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

  • Brak - 2012-05-23 12:06

    I agree with Gcwabe. Dear Mr. Rob Howing: Please learn rugby terminology before writing about it. Turnover:When a team concedes possession of the ball, particularly at the breakdown, they are said to have turned the ball over to the other team. Therefore Tiaan LOOSES the ball the most. I assume the statistic you are looking for is under 'Pilfers'.

  • Brak - 2012-05-23 12:07

    ...then again, it does make Tiaan the 'Turnover King'....haha

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