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S15: SA players ‘pinged’ most

2012-05-29 11:16

Cape Town – Do referees have an axe to grind with South African players, in particular, or are contestants from our country simply transgressing the laws more often than others in Super Rugby?

That is a debate that may well raise its head again with the release of latest statistics from the competition, suggesting that players from the SA franchises are more vulnerable to concession of penalties than others in the three-nation competition.

Figures issued by the Sydney Morning Herald on Tuesday, after Week 14 of Super Rugby, show that as many as six South Africans feature in the top 10 for most penalties conceded.

Whether irrelevantly or not, the news comes in the slipstream of published extracts from controversial former Springbok coach Peter de Villiers’s book, Politically Incorrect, in which his often fiery differences with key officials like the New Zealand pair of IRB refereeing boss Paddy O’Brien and Bryce Lawrence are revealed.

De Villiers maintains in the book that “South African referees may be the best but all the decision-making power is situated overseas”.

The current Super Rugby “rogues’ gallery” may be headed by an Australian, the Western Force loose forward Matt Hodgson (24 penalties), but the rest of the upper regions of the hit parade are monopolised by South Africans.

Only one New Zealand-based player, the Chiefs’ loosehead prop Sona Taumalolo, makes the top 10, in joint sixth place.

Leading the South African “charge” in joint second place are the Cheetahs’ beefy front-ranker Coenie Oosthuizen and Lions’ flank Derick Minnie (21 penalties each).

Both Bulls first-choice props, Dean Greyling (19, fifth spot) and Werner Kruger (18, sixth) feature, as well as Sharks and Springbok hooker Bismarck du Plessis and the Cheetahs’ Bok open-sider Heinrich Brussow (16, joint ninth).

At least in the case of ever-combative Du Plessis, he makes a notable contribution in a more “positive” column: he is running joint-second with the Highlanders’ Adam Thomson for most turnovers (29).

Leader in this category, despite his team’s 25-20 loss to the Sharks in Durban, remains the Stormers’ own hooker Tiaan Liebenberg, with 32 turnovers.

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Comments
  • Neutedop - 2012-05-29 11:50

    This is not even a argument - it is the same as calling racism every time you were wrong. it is lack of discipline, with one or two bad calls, all penalties is well deserved. I still think it is a primary school argument that the ref was against/for you - no ref at that level will walk onto the field, and look for ways to penalise a certain team.

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-05-29 13:18

      Keep it in the "Neutedop" please!!!! I do not say that we get punished unnecessarily, but Coenie is always wrong in the 1st half and right in the second half. Why? Look at his way of playing and you will realized that he is not changing his way of scrumming, but for some strange reason the ref see it different in the 2nd half.(refs still sometimes use scoreboard technic. That shows a lack of quality when fast decisions get made) I presume some of us only look at rugby from a score point?

      Sean - 2012-05-29 14:26

      Absolutely correct, Steve Walsh changed his stance completely in the second half of the Stormers / Cheetahs game! And that is not the only game. The refs are inconsistent in their calling of scrum infringements.

  • Sean - 2012-05-29 12:18

    Is that turnovers gained, or turnovers lost? There is some confusion over that stat. As for Coenie, against the Stormers he was pinged the whole of the first half for infringing. Come the second half and Steve Walsh decided it was the Stormers front row, and they got penalised! If the ref isn't consistent with his thought process how can we even comment on these stats?

  • willie.jordaan2 - 2012-05-29 12:33

    @Neutedop..... WTF, lyk jy my weet min van die hele ding af, gaan doen jou navorsing en kyk hoeveel van die skeidregters word wel onder tug verhore geplaas en geskors asgevolg van hulle onreelmatigheid in die "game". Selfs die manne van die naader twee lande het al 'n geraas gemaak oor die onreverdigheid teenoor ons spelers. Volg die nuus en google dit, dan klink jy dalk slimmer. So min soos wat jy van sport weet weet jy oor rasisme.... so bly maar die neut in jou dop, want daar is jy veilig.....

      Neutedop - 2012-05-29 13:36

      Willie wat so baie weet. Dankie vir jou pragtige stukkie skryfwerk. Leer asb spel! Bly jy gebruik die woord onreëlmatighede. Want dit bewys dat jy nie 'n benul het wat daar gebeur nie. Hulle word oor swak beslissings oor die kole gehaal, nie skelm beslissings nie. Die rassisme deel was gemik op die mentaliteit van: Almal pik op my. Die skeidsregters is bitter swak, maar nie reguit skelm nie. Kyk na die Bulls se drie teen die Brumbies - beteken dit die skeidsregter was skelm, of swak. Probeer die onderskeid tref. Die berig gaan oor skeidsregters wat 'pik' op ons nationaliteit. Dis kinderagtige redenasie. Weereens - soos jy genoem het, kla die ander lande ook daaroor. So is dit skelm, of swak beslissings??? As ander lande daaroor kla, word ons mos nie uitgesonder nie?

  • Provence - 2012-05-29 12:34

    Hey ou boet, as jy nie rugby kan speel nie moet jy n plan maak. It's an old South African problem. That's what happens when your rugby players have too much testosterone and too little skill. How else does one play???

  • stefan.vanderspuy - 2012-05-29 13:47

    In my opinion the rules are far too complicated and the referees interpret them differently. The great skill is for a side to "suss out" a ref, and play according to his interpretation of the rules. This is where the All Blacks are so good - and the South African sides and Springboks not!

      Sean - 2012-05-29 14:30

      Stefan, spot on. We are quick to single out Ritchie as getting preferential treatment when all he is doing is playing the ref at his own game. Without opening wounds this is exactly what Pocock did last year. Our players are too quick to throw up their hands in complaint, play the ball until the whistle blows. If the ref is inconsistent at least you have a chance at getting the ball. In the set pieces though it is still a lottery.

  • theunis.botha.96 - 2012-05-29 20:14

    I agree.Our players are subjected to bashing and prejudism by referees from abroad.Admittedly and at the moment only Bismarck sometimes poses as a little bit of a concern.Not that he is a dirty player at all,but he more than often get his hands caught in the cookie jar,and unfortuanatly so at kick'able locations towards goal.

  • Cliff - 2012-05-30 06:03

    Check who the main front row wankers are- Dean Greyling & Werner Kruger . Hate to say it , but I told you so !!!

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