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Plumtree: Poor start cost us

2011-05-22 14:51

Johannesburg - John Plumtree blamed the poor start made by his Sharks side in Saturday's Super Rugby encounter against the Bulls in Durban as the reason for their fifth loss of the season.

The hosts were 15-3 down inside the opening 15 minutes after tries by Francois Hougaard and Bakkies Botha.

They continued to struggle throughout and were especially poor with their handling, all of which contributed to a 32-23 scoreline, with Morné Steyn kicking 22 points for the defending champions.

Defeat left the Sharks hovering in seventh place on the overall table and needing to win all four of their remaining games to have a good chance of making the play-offs.

Coach Plumtree said: "We just didn't defend well enough and in the first 15 minutes we were two tries down.

"That was disappointing because in the past we've tackled a lot better than that. But allowing them to score after three phases was unacceptable.

"That was the biggest thing and the side lost a bit of confidence early. Obviously we were under pressure at lineout time again, so really allowing them that start was hard work.

"A side like the Bulls, when they gain possession and put you in the corners…you got to come from a long way out, so it was pretty disappointing."

Although the Sharks did fight back after the break - they outscored the Bulls 17-9 in the second period - they continued to concede needless penalties and were duly punished by the boot of Steyn.

"We were giving away penalties and they were driving us to give away penalties so when we pegged them back, they just got another three points," Plumtree added.

"So we just couldn't get to that seven or eight points behind them that would have allowed us to launch a real go at them.

"Basically the plan we had of beating them, we could not execute because we were too poor. Defensively we were poor, we haven't been like that all year."

However, Plumtree still felt things could have been different if Charl McLeod had scored 12 minutes from the end with the try line gaping.

Instead there was umpteenth error from the Durban side and Plumtree added: "If we scored there it would have been seven or eight points away from them.

"That was a big moment, so we just lacked a little bit of composure around the fringes ad weren't accurate enough."

Opposite number Frans Ludeke also felt the first half was crucial in setting up a seventh win of the season.

"I think we laid the foundation in the first half, solid defence forced a lot of turnovers and we were accurate when we got into their half, getting the points and building the innings.

"The second half was all about being smart tactically and also making sure when you get there then adding the points and building."

Victory left them three points behind the hosts on the overall standings and also needing to win their last four games if they are to retain hopes of defending the title.

"You can never talk for the opposition, but for us we're still in that (must win) position," Ludeke added.

"Nothing has changed, we did what we had to…a good win and we're very happy."

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  • SAFFA-CAT - 2011-05-22 14:55

    By BRENDAN FANNING Sunday May 22 2011 Ireland are making arrangements with the Stormers in South Africa to get much-needed game time for Rob Kearney in July, ahead of the World Cup. And an extra game, against Connacht, has been slotted into the August schedule to facilitate other players who are struggling with long-term lay-offs. Currently there are eight players, excluding Paul O’Connell who is fit but still short of match practice, who are injured or will have procedures carried out soon, and will need pitch time to get up to some sort of speed for the World Cup in September. Kearney, however, is the only one who is being pointed south to get some action, having not played since picking up a knee injury last November. “We’re looking at the South African option for Rob and we’ve made contact with the Stormers there,” Ireland manager Paul McNaughton confirmed last week. “We’re waiting for sign-off from our medics in the next few days to see what weeks he can start playing. He’s been keeping as fit as he can without playing matches, gym fit, but he’ll obviously need some preparation before he plays down there.”

      Krugga - 2011-05-22 16:58

      Cheeso! Jyt regtig nie n lewe nie, het jy? Any friends? When you said you're going to have a bottle of the Cape's finest, I'm guessing you meant watching the 1999 CC final on VHS on Friday night?

      molefeP - 2011-05-22 17:48

      Very interesting SAFFA, what is the feeling about this down there?

      Plesierspier - 2011-05-22 18:00

      @Krugga Hulle wens hulle kan die 1999 CC op VHS kyk, ongelukkig was hulle ook NIE in daai finaal nie, ons sal moet teruggaan na die "Goue jare" wat die goed so graag na verwys! Ek dink dit was erens net na die 2de wereldoorlog, maar die Stormers/WP verwys nog gereeld daarna! Shame

      Krugga - 2011-05-22 18:31

      @Plesier, as jy na al hulle kommentaar gekyk het Vrydag dan kon jy duidelik sien dat hulle eintlik nie hulle span n kans gegee het nie, dit was meer n reaksie van verligting en verbasing. Jy weet mos, as jy vir so lang ruk niks gehad het nie sal mens seker so optree, niks beters gewoond nie en dan dink hulle hulle het klas...

      Plesierspier - 2011-05-22 18:37

      @Krugga En hulle almal weet hulle is FLIPPEN gelukkig om daar te gewen het, die ref het die Blues dood geblaas en met sekondes cheat hulle toe 'n verloor. So met 1 uit 2 wenne op toer vertel hulle mos natuutlik weer vir die wereld hoe untouchable hulle is en dat hulle eintlik SA se beste span die laaste dekade was! Ek bedoel wat's 3 wenne in 4 jaar nou, zero wenne in 16 jaar is mos baie beter. Anyway, dit help nie jy redeneer met plankdom drek nie, hulle gaan dieselfde goed vir jou oor en oor en oor herhaal. So baie geluk Stormers, die koppie (soos in die laaste 16jaar) staan reeds op Nuweland!!!

      Plesierspier - 2011-05-22 18:45

      @Krugga En hulle weet almal hulle was damn gelukkig om daar te gewen het, die ref het die Blues dood geblaas! Maar natuurlik, met 1 wen op toer vertel hulle vir die wereld hoe untouchable hulle is en dat hulle eintlik die beste SA span die laaste dekade was. Ek meen wat beteken 3 bekers in 4 jaar nou, zero bekers in 16 jaar is mos baie beter. Maar dit help nie jy redeneer met plankton nie, jy gaan dieselfde storietjie oor en oor en oor hoor. So baie geluk Stometjies, die koppie (soos die laaste 16 jaar in April) staan reeds op Nuweland!

      Brannas - 2011-05-22 20:00

      Now WTF has this got to do with the Sharks or this article, Oh I forgot, you just like to be seen and heard, Get a life and wrestle that fat ass off from the chair and go outside and get some fresh air.

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-05-23 07:14

      Brannas, Krugga, Plesierspier together....sigh, a frikkin CHOLERA outbreak.

  • Plesierspier - 2011-05-22 15:05

    Or was it just pure Bulls magic John?

  • Marcell - 2011-05-22 15:35

    I reckon the Sharks were not up for it. Once Deysel and Alberts are tackled back it is the end of their magic. Playing Gerhard at 15 confused them as he is a running 15, not the typical kick and chase 15. Very simular to Peterson from the Stompies. When are they going to site 'Dirty' du Plessis for his stomping or was the siting commissioner sleeping again? If it was Bakkies it would have being front page news again.

      Raymond - 2011-05-22 19:36

      Gerhard is a very useful,talented and an exciting young player both at wing and full back.He reminds me a bit of James O'Connor,likes to run with the ball.The Bulls neuralised the Sharks loose trio,and I think that this had negative impact on them moving forward as they use Alberts more as the ball carrier.The Bulls took a grip from the kick off and started to dominate.The Sharks just could'nt get back into the game once the Bulls took a commanding lead.Very pleased that Steyn is still the kicker we can confidently go to the RWC with.

      Lloyd - 2011-05-23 06:22

      Marcell dit het reg voor die ref gebeur en hy het maar net anderkant toe gekyk. Bismarck is n skande.

      sakkie - 2011-05-23 06:56

      Agree, du Plessis needs some help with that hot head ! that sort of monkey business will cost us dearly in the WC ! Let's wait and see what happens this week with the stomping, I am sure the Bull's will appeal.....

      Rob van den Heuvel - 2011-05-23 08:25

      Agreed, while you're helping him with his hot temper PLEASE do something about his lineout feeds, shocking! No 1 hooker in the world, I think not!

      Bloutrein - 2011-05-23 09:25

      Marcell, this game just proved that John Smit remains a safer option than Bismark.

      Frederik - 2011-05-23 11:57

      John smit, oh please

  • 123.01 - 2011-05-22 15:35

    Kankowski - injured, dead, in bad form - leave him our of the team at your own peril.

      Rob van den Heuvel - 2011-05-23 08:27

      Kanko would have made a big diff at no8, Alberts is a better flank.

      Skiballas - 2011-05-23 09:25

      Kanko is a thinking mans 8th man, something we sorely missed. Alberts is a monster, but the extra pressure of played tactics obviously took its toll. If we had a better 8th man playing against us, we could have lost badly. Luckily for us, it was only Spies.

  • Stuart - 2011-05-22 15:40

    Come on Mr Plumtree you must be blind to NOT see that charl Mcleod is a poor perfomer .He is slow to distribute the ball .He trys to play the ref wasting time and is generaly not a player that can play at this level . Generaly handling is poor and there is a training session that can cure this . Peteresen does not engage in the tackle he dances around on tip toes more interested in his red shoes . The sharks are holding on to has been and as such losing supporters .You Mr Plumtree are supposed to be in charge so do it or move on .

      Muzz - 2011-05-22 16:05

      Spot on!! McCleod is crap, and Petersen wishes he was!! We can do better surely? We let Ruaan go, AND Rory in one move.... leave us with Charl? And the less said about Petersen's abilities......pay him to move a-la the Lion's with Earl Rose!!

      rugby_guru - 2011-05-22 18:04

      Rory had a hot head that's why we got rid of him, his temper drops us to 14 men.. the day he got physical and lost the plot was the day he was a bench warmer.. it doesn't help to have a class player that is unstable.. i have two friends who played for sharks and they agreed about his hot head... ruaan we never let go, he wanted a fat pay cheque, please facts only...

      Lloyd - 2011-05-23 06:23

      He's more of a spietkop than Fourie du Preez.

      Stryder - 2011-05-23 09:31

      Losing supporters? I was a supporter when they were the banana boys and bringing up the rear in the B league. I will be a supporter till I die. Sharks forever!!!

      Makutu - 2011-05-23 11:12

      Good question regarding Pietersen. I've never really liked the guy. They have a much better winger in Lwazi Mvovo and I have no clue why he isn't playing.

  • Caveman28 - 2011-05-22 15:40

    I am a Sharks supporter and we played kak. The Bulls deserved to win; well done to the Bulls! Looks like the SA conference in the Semi's will be the Stormers and the Bulls.

  • Muzz - 2011-05-22 15:46

    I was bitterly disappointed! Wearing my 1990 centenary shirt that I treasure, I had to hang my head in shame! The display last night was DIABOLICAL! The mid-field is a shambles with Adi, the fetching is shocking, Bismarck (love him!) can't throw a pie to a homeless man without hitting him in the face, and the desire to win went walk-about! Like an ANC supporter, I trust you'll get it right...but as a sentient being I will boycott you if you don't. This year is your notice....win the Super Rugby or my money and allegiance is gone!!

      Rob - 2011-05-23 09:18

      Thats shallow to move on because the Sharks haven't won a super rugby season. Your centenary jersey must mean a lot clearly. Have faith, even though they played dogsh*t rugby against the Bulls, all is not lost.

      shark4eva - 2011-05-23 12:37

      Muzz support the boys 100% or don't at all - really think our boys don't need supporters like u! Maybe throw your "money" and "support" behind the Lions, might make a difference!!!

  • levit8 - 2011-05-22 15:50

    Congrats to the Bulls. We did ourselves no favours though. When our outside center doesn't back himself to outrun the defence (mostly forwards) to the corner and opts to just hoof the ball into open space behind the defence ... it speaks VOLUMES for the quality (and lack thereof) of our backline. They have been our achilles heel all season and will do so until we get better players. A bad day all round for the Sharks if you at our handling, Charl McLeod's bad option taking, Luddik just running the ball back into the defensive line with nothing else to offer, our forwards not being close enough to the runners to clean out effectively. Its not all bad - we just need to be on a different level and consistency if we're going to come close to being real challengers, rather than just pretenders for the crown.

      Krugga - 2011-05-22 17:32

      Your scrums were solid though. The first 20 mins and Morne's boot won it for us. The remaining 60 mins is a bit of a worry.

      andrew.pottow - 2011-05-22 20:23

      Stefan was getting reeled! He had as much choice to do what he did as he has wheels. He's brilliant at times but just doesnt have the legs to get away from the defence. Botes could have got away better than him! He was isolated without any support following up. It was either chip it inside and hope or get caught, let the Bulls turn over the ball and have a perfect counter attacking opportunity.

      sakkie - 2011-05-23 07:02

      @levit8...spot on with McLeod, he cost you guys dearly ! Lamby was getting hammered with the slow ball from McLeod, and that just made life impossible for old Stephan, the Bulls defence had all the time in the world te gut up in their faces !

      levit8 - 2011-05-23 08:52

      @andrew.pottow - yes possibly but I just find it inexcusable to kick the ball away on attack like that. He should have taken contact, or tried to link up with his support players, at least then you're keeping the movement alive.

  • shark271 - 2011-05-22 16:23

    Lambi is the most uncreative flyhalf and belongs at fullback or bench. Play J L-P

      BardofAvon - 2011-05-22 17:22

      Not quite, shark.... he played behind a losing pack and I thought did very well actually. Under those circumstances it's mighty hard to get creative, when all you are looking for is survival.

      Rob - 2011-05-23 09:19

      Totally disagree

      Skiballas - 2011-05-23 09:30

      Yeah Sharks271...you just lost the plot a bit. Lambie was very good considering the circumstances. Please dont go all hail Morne on us, as he was worse when the Bulls were not hitting their straps. One very positive was Lambie defense. Thought the young man showed alot of heart. And his goal kicking was even better than Morne's.

      shark271 - 2011-05-23 10:54

      @skiballas... His tackling was poor, he missed Wynand in the first half which led to Hougaard's try. Out of the first 10 missed tackles in the sharks Lambie was responsible for 4 of them and Bakkies went straight over him to score his try.Normally his tackling is decent though. He is not creative enough at flyhalf, he cannot control or change a game like Quade or even Morne, play him at fullback as he is good at the basics.

  • BardofAvon - 2011-05-22 17:20

    Last year (or the year before, I can't remember) in the semi-finals the "Shark tank" was half-empty .... because the Shark "supporters" only wanted to bother going to the final (they were knocked out). Yesterday the stadium was full to the brim because the Natalians wanted to go watch the Bulls getting thrashed. Well, the Natalian "supporters" got exactly what they deserved. Empty hands. Sorry if this sounds harsh, but it's true. If you want to see real rugby fans, come to Loftus. And to comment on Plumtree's "explanation" for the loss... actually, all that happened was that your team was outplayed. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but it's true.

      rugby_guru - 2011-05-22 17:35

      Erm is that why your stadium has been so empty and ours is twice the size. Get off your high horse, it was a big local Derby and that's why the stadium was full.. cut off thousands of seats and the tank is always full.. shoe you get some real dorks on here

      Grant - 2011-05-22 17:45

      If you really believe in what you are saying why all the appologies! Sad!

      rugby_guru - 2011-05-22 17:58

      No need to bad mouth us sharks fans, because that's just looking for a fight.. i had season tickets every year i lived in natal. However I'm an sa rugby supporter and got box seats to bulls cheetahs this weekend, so don't try pretend you know something you don't.. i often go to Ellis park to watch Lions too, and ill be rooting for Bulls at loftus this coming weekend showing respect to the ground i watch at, but people like you are just plain pathetic.

      BardofAvon - 2011-05-22 18:02

      @rugby guru: Okay, you do have a point. I did look on the web, though, and it seems that Loftus and Kings Park are virtually identical in size (52 000 each). But I do accept that there are many hardcore Sharks and rugby supporters out there.

      rugby_guru - 2011-05-22 18:25

      Bardof my apologies you guys had renovations for soccer world cup .

      BardofAvon - 2011-05-22 19:28

      All good, rugby guru...!

  • rugby_guru - 2011-05-22 17:21

    Well done Bulls you played well and beat us... The truth is we never pitched and guys who are solid had butter fingers, the pressure on us could cause that however truth be said they had butter fingers from the start of the game.. not taking anything away from the bulls, Congrats ... Sharks you a strong side, give it your all these next few games ... Sharks for life... sorry guys, you trained hard for the game and know you went there to win, things don't always work out that way, but your fans are behind you 100%. We just watch and moan and think we know better, truth he said none of us could probably tackle the smallest player on the field or hold onto one ball when. you have the defending champs running at you... so for us supporters lets just support our team regardless who plays what number, because our coach feels the best player is playing that position, sharks for life ;)

      molefeP - 2011-05-22 17:37

      You have my sympathies Guru, we Bull supporters know how it feels to watch guys who should be much much better just let the game slip away from them.

      RuckingFun - 2011-05-23 01:40

      well said mate sharks forever!

      sakkie - 2011-05-23 07:06

      Ja nooit, the handling was something else.....on both sides mind you ! just glad to see old Spies raised his game from Shockingly bad to average ! disappointed in W-Alberts, this was a good opportunity to give Spies a run for his money........

  • Dal2000 - 2011-05-22 17:25

    Sharks getting rid of Rory and swapping Strauss for Bosman is something they will regret this whole year. Terrible move; simply stupid! Terblance is too old for centre, that's not even mentioning that he's centre quality or not. They will lose the SR competition, get angry and win the CC (or atleast they hope to). If we can't beat the Saders, Bulls or Stormers then we have no chance. Sorry boys, blame the management.

      Gungets Tuft - 2011-05-23 15:33

      Agree about Strauss, Rory was and is a tosspot. Refuses to be part of a team, never sticks to a game plan and he was getting aggressive from all the juice he was drinking. Don't miss Rory in the slightest. All that said, being klapped by the Crusaders, Stormers and Bulls is certainly not positive for any reward in the S15. Even if we squeak the semis we just face them again. Bosman - sh#t . what a waste of money. Perhaps we can send him down to St Augustines and harvest his kidneys to get some money back ... :-) And Bryce "I am the man" Lawrence - @#$^$@^. Let the game flow a bit man. There is no law that says you have to use the whistle that much. Let advantage flow. The Sharks would still have lost but it would at least have turned into a running game - both teams were up for it.

  • Klaspeester - 2011-05-22 17:39

    And where's the idiots now who said Alberts will kill poor Bakkies and Tinkerbell Spies??? Shame, Alberts is still trying to pull his head out of his ass!

      Skiballas - 2011-05-23 09:33

      en jy klink soos n parra. onw swallow doesnt make a summer. as jy willem wil rate op een game, dan is jy net n dowwe liggie op die horison. Spies was ook nie eintlik n breker gewees nie, het hom amper nie eers gesien op die veld nie. Die regte Bulls yster was Danie Russouw.

  • Klaspeester - 2011-05-22 17:42

    And where's the idiots now who said Alberts will kill poor Bakkies and Tinkerbell Spies??? Shame, Alberts is still trying to pull his head out of his ass!

      rugby_guru - 2011-05-22 17:59

      Alberts is a great player that didn't perform on the day, same as spies who is class, yet been dismal all season. Take the bark out of your own eye..

      Plesierspier - 2011-05-22 18:50

      @rugby_guru Difference is I never said Spies will kill Alberts, and yes, he's had a very average season at best so far. But for some reason the Stormers must always have their noses in everyone elses business and tell you how Alberts will destroy Bakkies and Spies, and then? The Bulls absolutely dominated the Sharks pack, and be very aware of a Bulls team peaking at the right time. And imagine if Spies and Bakkies really joins the party again.

      rugby_guru - 2011-05-22 19:26

      Ples then you going to be a force on your own... and will be good for sa rugby.. looking forward to seeing our boys play together and take back the cup to sa..

      Plesierspier - 2011-05-22 20:52

      Absolutely!

      BardofAvon - 2011-05-22 22:36

      Klas, Alberts just had a fumbly day at the office. He is a fantastic player. No sportsman doesn't have an off day. Just look at the golfers.

      rugby_guru - 2011-05-23 07:40

      To be honest I still feel Bulls are only firing on 70%, if you pull off a good win against the Cheetahs this weekend which you should then its pretty much money in the bag from there... As Lloyd said the team that wins that local Derby (Sharks / Bulls) this last weekend will win the game at Loftus, and he is right, all we have done is added pressure to our game and now are expected to win every game to the end, which is a big task for the Sharks to do... Now regardless of us making play offs will be some good rugby to watch :) PS, so you Bulls at Loftus this weekend so I can watch some more good Rugby and eat your lovely food in the box, LOL!

  • Plesierspier - 2011-05-22 18:03

    Anneleentjie, waar's jy vandag?

  • Dan - 2011-05-22 21:48

    Plumtree methinks the problem with the Sharks lies with you and Fatso Whatshisname Smith. Although Smith did not play this time round he is as useless on the field as you are as the coach. The whole team is unsettled by your nonsensicle strategies and combinations. And please take McLeod with you. He is a clueless moron. When you have such a talented pool of players to pick from and you can't outplay and outsmart a team like the Bulls then it is time to pack your bags. What you are doing now is single handedly destroying one of South Africa's premier franchises.

      BardofAvon - 2011-05-22 22:31

      Dan, I am a Bulls supporter but what you are saying is very harsh. We (the Bulls) have won the compo three times in four years, demolishing all comers at crucial times. Some of what you are saying is true, for example the terrible conundrum that Smit creates, which must, ironically, unsettle the team. McLeod is a good scrumhalf but he was pressurized out of existence by our rampaging forwards. When a fantastic player like Willem Alberts also suffers(as did Beast and Bizzi), you must give credit to the opposition. I don't think that any team would have withstood the first half Bulls onslaught. Our numbers 4, 5, 8, 9 and 10 are arguably the best in their positions in the world when they are playing to their potential, which, on Saturday, they were. People say that the Bulls style of rugby is unimaginative, but so is a Caterpillar E19.

      Marcell - 2011-05-23 04:53

      The Caterpillar E19 is not as tough! The Bulls are Tuffy bag tough! :)

  • Plesierspier - 2011-05-22 22:13

    @ Watalife/Oukoos/Jan/WPBEFONK/Skaapsteker Bradley/Kleinboet/Mikie@CapeT Ek het net gewonder, nou ek weet ek moenie wonder nie want ek het nie naastenby die breinkrag wat julle ysters het nie en ek weet die Stormers is totaal untouchable, maar ek wonder anyway: Wat as, die Bulls 3 of al vier van hul oorblywende games wen (gedink daar's 'n bogemiddelde kans vir dit), die Sharks al 3 wen plus 'n bye, en die Stormers dalk een van hul 2 weg games verloor en ook struikel teen die Bulls en Cheetahs. WAT AS..

      Shistirrer - 2011-05-23 10:00

      Wat as my antie knaters gehad het, dan was sy my oom.

      Plesierspier - 2011-05-23 19:34

      @Shistirrer Hel, dit was snaaks, ek kannie ophou lag vir jou nie, ek meen niemand het nog ooit die grappie gehoor nie. Jy's amper so oorspronklik soos jou span se rugby! Jy behoort "cover charge" te vra jy's so snaaks!

  • Marcell - 2011-05-23 05:01

    Ons as ondersteuners hou daarvan om die ander spanne se ondersteuners so bietjie gas te gee. As ek deur hierdie kommentaar kyk kan ek sien dat die Bulle en Sharks se ondersteuners baie dieselfde is. Ons gee krediet waar nodig en gru taal gebruik is in die minimum. Dit lei tot goeie debat. Kan ek asb 'n beroep doen op die papsak suipende brigade om ons tegemoet te kom om sodoende die standaard van debat te verhoog?

      Lloyd - 2011-05-23 06:26

      Wishful thinking Marcell.

  • georgemtem - 2011-05-23 07:31

    Im a sharks fan but sharks management this season are idiots. They should have invested in quality centres. Mayer and Stefen are pathetic. 2 fullback we gat an average tiny guy by the name of Ludik who cannot counter attack and is easily smashed before reachin the advantage line. Why they rid of a quality player like waylon murray God knows. Next season i hop they git rid of meyer, stefen, ludik, macloud and get quality players who played like bred barrit a percy monte.........

      rugby_guru - 2011-05-23 07:52

      Remeber george some teams make players look good, to be honest look at the Sharks players now playing for other provinces, they looking nowhere near as good as they did in the Shark pack, and thats the truth.. The same is true about Habana, the Bulls made him look good because he played very well under the high ball from Steyn or Fourie and not saying he is terrible now but not the player he was for the Bulls... So we buy guys not because they crap, but because they look like they excel in other teams yet when playing with a new pack don't perform... McLoed has actually been playing ok Rugby this season I think he is a just a bit hasty to take quick penalties where a good kick into touch and a lineout would be the answer, we did 0 drives against the Bulls, and our forwards are strong and could have made some good ground. In all honestly we had a good chance in the match but we blew it by some of our star players, Bismark was a little psycho on the day and that type of play isn't needed... End of the day you can't keep all your players as players move on for various reasons, Ruaan Pienaar played for us for a number of years, so we do have solid players, Beast was offered a contract and decided to stay, Smit was offered Millions to play for Lions and stayed faithful to the Sharks... The Bulls have a very similar pack to us where their players are faithful but people do move on. I think the Bulls lost 6 players end of last year, and losing quite a few more end of this year...

      rugby_guru - 2011-05-23 07:56

      Also Stefen is probably one of the best full backs in the world, no one can read a game like that guy and thats the honest truth, his dace of pace are over and I believe he is playing the wrong position but end of the year I can assure you the Sharks will purchase some better centers, remeber we had a Flyhalf issue where we had to get Andy Goode to come play for us? Now, that department is covered, its just a process and it's awsome if you can have all the key players, however truth be said it wasn't due to lack of experience we lost that game it was because Bulls pitched up and we never, end of story, we did EXTREMELY well in the Currie Cup, why? Remeber Stefen comments, because we played as a 'team'... And we have not looked comfortable all season even though we have won games with 4 wins nearly every time we won a game, we still never looked comfortable... And until we do, its going to be difficult beating the strong teams like Stormers, Bulls, etc... Of course we have the Skill to do it, we just need to turn on the gas, and hopefully we can do that these last 4 games.

      Rob van den Heuvel - 2011-05-23 08:33

      Agreed, they've been loosing 'quality centres' over the past couple of years, Barret, Waylon, Strauss....best thing to do now is move Stephan back to 15, Ad to 12, JP to 13, Movo to 11. Sorry Bosman will have to play off the bench.

      rugby_guru - 2011-05-23 09:54

      Rob exactly you have to do with what you got and the truth be said, thats probably the best mix with numbers we currently have.. I honestly feel our biggest mistake is playing Stefen at center.. Yes maybe a few years back he would be superior at wing, center, etc... But now lets use his experience where it is best and that is full back... When he plays full back he knows EXACTLY where the ball is going, he doesn't even have to do a step to the side the ball just lands in his hands, and that comes from years of play... But you put him in the position he is in now is not fair on him either...

  • Koos - 2011-05-23 07:33

    Bulle bo!! aan al die bafoons wat ons afgeskryf het! Dit is Lekker om n Bul te ISSSSSSSSSS

      Jacky - 2011-05-23 07:56

      Fooitog give a fool a chance...............

      Lloyd - 2011-05-23 08:25

      This is your chance Jacky. Take it.

  • Marx - 2011-05-23 07:36

    About the game, Gerhard did great on fullback, he was a bit unlucky not scoring that try, but he's potent on the counter, the Bulls dominated up-front and Dean Greyling is really doing what's needed and stepping up big time! I was dissapointed in our second 40 min. and felt the Bulls should have sealed the game quicker, but a good performance all round !!

      Dave-the-bul - 2011-05-23 08:52

      @Marx, agreed. But Bulls getting better by the minute! Think we going to destroy the Cheethas comes Sat!

      GraemeBB - 2011-05-23 09:33

      Agreed - but the Bulls werent even trying any more. Subs on too early! Lets hope the Bulls are saving it for later.

      ChumScrubber - 2011-05-23 13:48

      Dave, I'd be very careful before getting too confident over the Cheetahs. My moneys on the Cheetahs, the Sharks really did not play well enough to judge where the Bulls are at the moment. Then again ...... who knows.

  • PCDP - 2011-05-23 13:58

    To all the anti bulls that said the Bulls are "has beens". Luckily the "has beens" won the sharks.

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