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Os on Super Rugby scrums

2012-02-07 07:47

Cape Town - Cheetahs forwards coach Os du Randt believes scrummaging in this year's Super Rugby competition will be more competitive.

The former Bok prop feels the fact that referees will be a lot stricter at scrum time will lead to scrums being performed in a more legitimate manner.

The South African Rugby Union (SARU) recently indicated where the emphasis in scrums will lie. Front rankers have to engage immediately, their heads are not allowed to touch beforehand and they have to engage on the referee's call.

Scrumming straight will also be essential, while props will need to bind correctly without placing their hands on the surface.

According to Du Randt this will stop teams from using the so-called "slingshot-method". In this method the eightman pulls his props backwards before pushing forward before engagement, which gives more momentum.

The laws state that all eight players need to be static before engagement and no forward or sideways movement is allowed.

"Referee's will just put more emphasis on teams attempting the slingshot. They will be more critical. Looseheads will now "hit" a lot more, but one cannot really do anything about that. But everything will be more legitimate," Du Randt told the Volksblad newspaper.




 

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Comments
  • RockChick - 2012-02-07 08:25

    The King...... Has spoken!

      Paul - 2012-02-07 10:49

      Could be a problem for Aussie frontrankers. They've been taught not to scrum straight since under-10 level.

  • Michele - 2012-02-07 09:15

    Shame poor Aussies are going to battle even more now at scrum time , could not happen to a nicer bunch.

      Brannas - 2012-02-07 09:27

      Poor stormers are going to suffer even more in the scrums.

      Lionel - 2012-02-07 09:49

      Brannas,your obsession with the Stormers is just as pathetic as you.Come up with something a bit more original,poephol!!!!!!!

      Brannas - 2012-02-07 10:11

      Nattes - You repeat yourself again tosser,

      Stefan - 2012-02-07 11:55

      @Lionel... agreed. The only Bulls supporter who sometimes talks sense is Bulldozer. As for Brannas and Pieter all they ever talk about is how bad the Stormers are and people not looking like Brad Pitt (which actually makes me wonder why Pieter has such an obsession with Brad Pitt...). And then you actually get their followers who actually like the bunch of crap they post. Can't believe the mentality of some Bulls supporters.

      Brannas - 2012-02-07 12:00

      Stefan- Winning mentality and culture. Thats whats doing it for us. You would'nt know, whould you.

      Bulldozer - 2012-02-07 12:00

      Dankie Stefan, maar dis nie my intention nie. Ek's besig om te slip.

      Stefan - 2012-02-07 13:05

      Brannas - More like monotonous mentality. You couldn't care less whether the Bulls fare good or bad in any competition. As long as the Stormers doesn't win cups, you would be a happy chap. Just goes to show how superficial your mentality is. One would think that the Bulls' poor performce last year would have humbled you guys a little bit, but you are clearly to thick for that.

      Bootman - 2012-02-07 18:30

      Stefan you are just as dumb as Brannas, Pieter and Bulltosser because they're all the same person. Anybody with half a brain can see that.

      Bootman - 2012-02-07 18:40

      ........his three personas Bulldozer.............the FBI Agent who travels the world Pieter...................the millionaire Canadian plastic surgeon Brannas...............the Pretorian trailer park dronkie (probably the most accurate) The sad part is that there are (supposedly highly intellegent) people who actually fall for it.

      Stefan - 2012-02-08 07:36

      @Bootman. Do you know what really is sad? Suppose your statement is true, I find it sad that the same person talks to himself on a website from morning to night and then people like you who know it and still choose to have a conversation with him.

  • hannesenbrianda - 2012-02-07 09:26

    Why do they continue with the "hit"? Surely the scrum will work better if it sets properly first and if there is a rule against any pushing before the ball is fed into the scrum. I played hooker most of my life and we never used to "hit". I think the hit is also dangerous as it concentrate the momentum of 16 people in a single collision in the hope to get some forward momentum. This single contact that can easily go to ground and break someone's neck. The "hit' is just not worth it! Set the scrum, let people get their feet into position and then when you feed the ball let everyone push forward. The hit is a way to cheat.

      Arthur - 2012-02-07 09:31

      Out of curiosity, do you perhaps know when this rule was introduced and since then which teams benefited more from this rule.

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-02-07 10:06

      The slingshot is an tactic for the teams with the lighter forwards. Funny, it is the same boys that force their hand to change the rules to a faster game(read more South than us). My question is, will this rule now favor our heavier forwards again and bring the game back to more what it was develop for(that all shapes can play) or will there be another rule that we void this again. hannesenbrianda this is what bothers me as well. They are changing the rules to suit these lighter and more"athletic" teams in the name of safety, but because scrum is one of the fundamentals in rugby and can't be thrown out, they keep a blind eye on the "hit" because they know they are to light in the pans to do a power push scrum.( think of kangaroos and their neighbors if you wonder whom I mostly talking of.)

      Paul - 2012-02-07 10:59

      @hannesenbrianda One of the best, most constructive comments I've seen on this site. If they're really serious about player safety it's the only way to go. I guess some of the die-hard scrummagers will cringe at the thought of having a no-hit scrum, but it certainly would solve a lot of problems. My pet hate is refs blowing for "early engagement". Also, it will cancel the need for the idiotic "crouch, touch, pause, engage" rubbish. This game is way too complicated as it is...

      Bootman - 2012-02-07 18:35

      You would also have none of this nonsense where the scrummy refuses to put the ball in because the scrum is moving. For me there is nothing more irritating than the scrummy showing the ref the ball as if to say "I found this, what do you want me to do with it"

      hannesenbrianda - 2012-02-08 03:07

      I stopped playing in '92 so the "hit" is a fairly recent "innovation" in cheating. By the mid-90's it was part of the game.

  • Justin - 2012-02-07 10:45

    Os would scrum Chuck Norris any day.

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