Ludeke: I don't want to change

2011-04-26 22:53

J.J. Harmse

Pretoria - Injuries rather than form will be the measure when Bulls coach Frans Ludeke picks his team for Saturday's Super Rugby match against the Chiefs at Loftus Versfeld.

The coach confirmed that he did not want to make any changes to the side that lost to the Western Force unless injuries necessitated it.

However, hookers Gary Botha and Chiliboy Ralepelle will swop roles because of a rotation agreement.

"Nothing changes, but Francois Hougaard and Dewald Potgieter's ankle injuries may well mean that neither of them are able to play against the Chiefs," said Ludeke.

"We'll give them until after (Wednesday's) training session to see how they have recovered. I will pick them if they are ready."

There could be eyebrows raised at the coach's decision not to want to change a team that has lost three consecutive games, but it also gives meaning to Ludeke's argument that the turning point of the season is here.

If Potgieter cannot play, Danie Rossouw will probably come in as No 7 flank, though Ludeke could also take on the Chiefs with two fetcher flanks in Deon Stegmann and Derick Kuün.

Rossouw is an excellent ball-carrier. He has not played much and should have plenty of gas in the tank.

Gerhard van den Heever could stand in for Hougaard without the team compromising on pace or finishing ability, but it will mean that a second scrumhalf has to be drawn up from the Vodacom Cup team.

Ruan Snyman, who should step in if Hougaard is not fit, has not played for a while due to injury. However, Ludeke says he will be fit enough to play if he's needed.

"I went to watch the Vodacom Cup team train this morning (Tuesday) and am satisfied that Ruan is looking sharp. He will undoubtedly be ready if Hougie is not available," said Ludeke.

"I'm hopeful on Hougie. He's still uncomfortable when stepping on his ankle, but injuries like that usually heal quite quickly."

If Hougaard does not play, Ludeke will need to pick four forwards and three backs on the bench against the Chiefs. If he plays, the coach will pick five forward substitutes, including the hardworking Juandré Kruger.

Much has been expected of Kruger, especially as it was thought beforehand that Victor Matfield would get more rest.

The Bulls captain has played every minute of every game and Kruger not a single minute - something that does not make sense from a national or Bulls perspective.


  • bluebullcape - 2011-04-26 23:58

    I agree with JJ Harmse on this issue. Why not play Danie Rossouw at 8 and give Pierre Spies a rest and give the hardworking Juandre Kruger a run. He surely will not let the team down and he more than proved himself in the Currie Cup and at Northampton. he will also be an element of surprise for the Chiefs. The fact that he hasn't played he will also have lots of gas in the tank and commitment. This was also the case with the young prop.

      Pipes - 2011-04-27 05:04

      Spies never stopped resting...he should rather start playing if PdV is crazy enough to consider him for the World Cup !

      Shovels - 2011-04-28 15:47

      Agree , Also Hougard is not good as wing and should be in skrummy .Van der Hever will never regain confidance when you replace him with Hougard that cant takle in this position and positional are not that good . .Rather play Akona

  • Henry - 2011-04-27 00:32

    The options during the professional area is very limited if your 1st choice players do no come off. You could always go to the clubs during the amateur days for players but now you must play the palyer that's getting payed. I think that the BBM is responsible for the mess because they allowed that the currently group of players to dominated the setup and that no new palyers were aoolwed to enter the team. The same happened to Australian cricket where the team stayed the same for 3 years. Nico Serfontein is at the Lions to produce future super rugby players. He did not even produced super rugby players for the Blue Bulls. Yes , he won the Vodacom Cup for the Bulls but where are the quality players that's suppose to represent the province at a higher level. John Mitchell at the Lions must realise that's their no more real talent seekers like Craven or Markotter left in this country.

  • hardloop - 2011-04-27 00:42

    Ludeke is beginning to sound very much like Arsene Wenger "we don't need to change anything, we just need to play better, blah blah blah, cliche cliche cliche." The Bulls have the quality to make squad changes but I really believe that this "player empowerment" has got them stuck in a rut. The players don't want to change the way they have always played - that's what the coach is for, he needs to be the leader take responsibility and change the squad.

  • Kleinboet - 2011-04-27 01:45

    Should it not read - "Ludeke: I am unable to change!" or "Ludeke: I don't know how to change" ? Ludeke, you do not have to change - just change the TEAM, my man!

  • Paddy - 2011-04-27 02:00

    "Hougie" ek sê my broer!Hoe kan hy verander as hy niks het om die idiote mee te vervang nie!?Kyk maar net na die VC uitslae.BB rugby is ALWEER in sy m@er!@BLUEBULLCAPE is jy op P?Spies moet gedrop word nie gerus word nie.Southern Kings moet dadelik die Bulletjies vervang.Bulle en Lions kan saamsmelt dan het ons net 1 span in die S15 om ons voor te skaam.So paar maande gelede wou julle FL Bok afrigter gemaak het! n Sekere swaap op n blog wou selfs die hele BB afrigtingspan die Bokke s'n gemaak het...bwahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Effel - 2011-04-27 02:44

      Soos ons ons die laaste 17jaar skaam vir die Stormers se Super rugby poging!!

      Torro Azur - 2011-04-27 03:32

      Paddy if you think so little of the Bulls why bother to respond or are you so self absorbed that you can't wait to read your own comments that you comment on anything - even when you are clueless about the matter under discussion. The Bulls will be back to their best soon and you will again have nothing to add. Pity full, pity full expat................

      Luckybugger - 2011-04-27 04:47

      Effel I really think your second comment is uncalled for, Paddy the Bull's may be off form currently but the winning culture will return, the reason for that being they have a proven record, all indications are that they won't be back this season or even next season but the will return to winning form, what I can't understand is why the Stormers supperters are calling for them to be replaced by the Southern Kings, to win a Super trophy you have to beat the best NZ and Aus team, the Stormers have a long way to go before they accomplish what the Bulls have, wether you like to admit it or not.

      Paddy - 2011-04-27 05:54

      So ou Effel of jy is n shift werker erens by n sekuriteits firma of jy bly nie in SA nie.Is jy skaam om te erken ou ettertjie!?Werk seker op Auckland Lughawe of iets.Mind you sover ek weet laat hulle nie kriminele toe in NZ en Aus nie.SKAMM varknek is as n span n hele jaar NIKS wen nie....refer Bulls en Lions!Spul kanaalbarbers van GAUTENGELENG!

      Dolittle - 2011-04-27 08:36

      Paddy, jy kan nou maar heeltemal ontspan! Haal diep asem & tel tot 10. Moet nie alles glo wat jy by jou vriende hoor nie, jou informasie omtrent die Bulle is foutief. Indien jy meer perspektief verlang kan jy gerus op Saru se webblad aanteken en na die uitslae kyk wat die onderskeie Blou Bul spanne sover in die verskillende kompetieses bereik het. Die Bulle se Vodacom span speel in die kwarteind rondtes & die S15 span het darem al n paar wedstryde gewen. Totsiens ou Paddy, en onthou! Ek hou jou dop!

      Paddy - 2011-04-27 09:54

      DOLITTLE die naam kom seker van jou vlakgesig af.Noem jy 3/8 wenne in die Vodacom Cup goed?Noem jy DIT diepte?Hou eerder jou vrou dop man jy kyk te veel 007 movies.Jy weet Chuck Norris bly nie regtig in Danville nie nê?Hok toe jou barber!

      MrMojoRising - 2011-04-27 11:07

      Effel, luister boy, die Stormers het nog NOOIT heel onder die log ge eindig nie. Op hulle swakste seisoene was hulle in die middel gewees altyd. So daar.

      MrMojoRising - 2011-04-27 11:08

      "Bulle en Lions kan saamsmelt dan het ons net 1 span in die S15 om ons voor te skaam." hahaha, beste quote in 'n lang tyd! Dankie Paddy. Jy is my hero.

      Steyts - 2011-04-27 12:44

      Hehehehe, moet se dis nogal 'n snaakse string comments die...

      CliffBradley - 2011-04-28 06:43

      Luckybugger : You off there , all condoms posts are uncalled for , couth , vulgar and show the world how low the majority of the bulls supporters iq's are

      LOLWUT - 2011-04-28 10:14

      LOL - net omdat die m03rse checque-book julle ou span uit die moeilikheid gehelp het is jou bek lekker groot ne. Gaan wen julle 3 keer die Super Rugby beker dan praat ons weer. Julle moet onthou - 'n span kan nie 4jaar perfek wees nie. Die Bulle sal wel weer een of ander tyd op hulle beste wees

  • Whoosa - 2011-04-27 05:55

    As a bulls fan, i see a dark picture for the next 5 years. All the junior teams, plus vodacom cup etc are struggling. FL cant change his team, cause there is no players good enough to step up to Superugby level. And what is this rumour about prince valiant (wynand) that he signed a massive new 3 year deal with the bulls???? Why on earth????? He cant tackle, pass or attack. Always eyeing the big screan to see if his hair is neat. Its hard for me to say this, but its time for the bulls get there act together. They should get rid of the whole bunch, the coach, vic,wynand,du preez, spies botha,botha. These guys are making fools of themselves and us the fans. Good luck to the sharks and the stormers, you will need it come play-off time, Saders redds and Blues gonne be hard to beat, especially if its gonne be on the road!

      BardofAvon - 2011-04-27 08:48

      Whoosa... nobody seems to know exacty what the problem with the Bulls really is. But I doubt that the right thing to do, to fix it, is to ditch the whole lot. Something is wrong when great players like Fourie du Preez, Houghaard & Co. are at sea. It is as though the whole team has a hangover that they can's shake off. I agree though that WO should be replaced with a centre with a side-step.

      Steyts - 2011-04-27 12:51

      Whoosa, please give du preez to the stormers then, the rest can retire as far as I'm concerned, apart from houghaard. I think the stormers will have home field advantage come play offs due to the fact that we have always been a good travelling team and the only team that we play overseas that I think will give us VERY STIFF competition are the blues. The stormers might not play pretty rugby but it is very effective at the moment. But, if we do end up being on the road then we might as well start concentrating on the tri nations, currie cup, etc...

  • Paddy - 2011-04-27 06:05

    EFFEL jy is mos daai bouncer(hehehehehe) wat in die North Shore rondhang nie waar nie?Die een wat op sy pelle se nekke le en hul drank uitsuip en kos opvreet.Heeldag le en TV games speel en Chuck Norris DVD's kyk.Is jou werkspermit nie al verstreke nie?Jy het mos skelm ingekom in die eerste plek.Hok toe met jou!

      Steyts - 2011-04-27 12:52


      Effel - 2011-04-27 15:14

      @Paddy Ja nee die werkpermit job nog pappa, betaling so $40,000/maand maw R 280, 000 per maand. Leef nogal lekker en lag my vrek vir hoe f@cked up die Stormer supporters is en hoe julle ALWEER nie 'n koppie gaan wen nie. ALWEER. Jokers van wereldrugby!!

      Paddy - 2011-04-28 00:34

      @Effel Bwahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jou employer en jy verstaan mekaar nie lekker nie d@@s!Dis $40 000 per JAAR nie per MAAND nie etter.Wie dink jy nou glo jou?Die $40 000 pm is die turnover vd HELE company waarvoor jy werk!Jy kan maar $4mil/maand verdien jy sal altyd n dom BB ondersteuner bly en kommin soos n Cortina!

      Paddy - 2011-04-28 00:40

      Ou EFFIE jy vat lekker slae nê!?Wie maak daai taai lakens van jou wetdreams elke oggend skoon of draai jy dit net om.

      Effel - 2011-04-28 18:06

      Company? Ek werk privaat ou bees, nie vir enige iemand nie!

  • - 2011-04-27 06:35

    whats the point in rearraging the deck chairs. the whole wok-man-boogy is going to sink to the bottom of zoo lake, the skipper (coach) will drown and like the phoenix ()the bulls will rize again one day from the ashes

  • Darksyde - 2011-04-27 07:50

    Bulls will win on Saturday, but it will be the proverbial dead cat bouncing.

      BardofAvon - 2011-04-27 08:51

      Dark, it's not whether we win that will count, but how we do so. If the Bulls can find form - genuine form - then the race is on. But it looks doubtful that they will be able to do so.

  • Marc Flowers - 2011-04-27 08:35

    Never before has such talent so consistently poorly performed. Be bold and make some changes = you now expect BIG Vic to win the super 15 (wake up you cant) and the world cup - what a joke. Dont fix what aint broken but the blou cows of this season is clearly broken. Bring on some young hungry talent and start building for next year - the current team is an embarrassment.

      Whoosa - 2011-04-27 09:12


  • Carl Muller - 2011-04-27 09:07

    The Bulls will only win once we see a clear strategy in their game, which we have not seen yet so far.... The play with no game winning strategy....

  • Tim - 2011-04-27 10:35

    The fact is, Victor Matfield is really tired, you can see it.

  • duncan.willis - 2011-04-27 10:49

    You need to change the style of play mister! Your way of coaching and insisting on the constant kicking away possession will never end in success! Get with the times and maybe the bulls can be a force to be reckoned with again!

  • Chris Holtshausen - 2011-04-27 14:57

    Hoog skop.....Storm.....Donder.....en hoop die bal spring reg!!! Luck kan ook net soooo lank duur!!!

  • Paddy - 2011-04-27 15:22

    Let's give the Bulls the credit they deserve. Yes they going through a bad patch, but let's be honest, it's the best provincial team ever seen. No other SA side can even be named in the same sentence. They are the current Vodacom, Superrugby and World cup champions!

  • Dan - 2011-04-27 17:58

    After assessing the BB team the last number of weeks I have come to the conclusion that the one big problem is that it has not a fly half who can dictate the game. Morne Steyn is a great kicker, good tackler and let the ball flows nicely to his back line, BUT he played in the shadow of Fourie du preez who was the one who created and dictated the game. Du Preez is off form badly and now Morne cannot fill his roll. If Steyn is replaced by a flyhalf who is a game setter the entire BB team will perform better. Also Spies is not a no. 8. he should play Wing. But boy-oh-boy to change a coache`s mind is like trying to turn the Queen Elizabeth on high oceans. Dan

      Paddy - 2011-04-28 00:39

      En dit vat jou so lank om uit te werk Steyn is n aap?Is jy dalk n BB ondersteuner!?

  • crocowild - 2011-04-27 20:38

    If Spies play wing he will cause a lot of problems for teams playing the Bulls.He will actually succeed in taking the pressure of the rest of the backline.Very soon other teams will commit more players to mark Spies and this in itself will create chances for other backs.From the beginning i could see that Spies was not the complete eightman.For him to actually have played there with a degree of success shows just what a great talent he is.The right wing position was made for Pierre Spies.But,if the car is broken and you do not want to fix it,do not expect to go anywhere in the near future.The Chiefs team that i saw playing a few weeks ago,can beat any team in the Super 15 on the day.

  • GraemeBB - 2011-04-27 23:13

    And this has been the problem to start with. This man isnt able to change. He doent have the ability, nor does he posses the insight to change. That is what a great coach is able to do. So, Ludeke needs to be changed.

  • Mickey Fin - 2011-04-28 01:01

    Heh Frans, You don't have to change and you just keep your same game plan and to hell with everyone else. Tonight in bed you and PdV can have a good laugh at all these "stupid" comments from these "stupid" supporters who know nothing about rugby! After all you and PdV are the main men!

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