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Crusaders cleared of gouging

2012-04-09 01:18

Wellington - A Super Rugby citing commissioner says eye-gouging allegations leveled by two Bulls players against the Crusaders after a weekend match in Pretoria cannot be substantiated.

SANZAR chief executive Greg Peters said on Monday the commissioner had reviewed video footage of the match from several camera angles not available to the television viewers and had found there was no case to answer.

Bulls forwards Chiliboy Ralepelle and Flip van der Merwe complained to referee Jaco Peyper that they had been eye-gouged during Saturday's match, won 32-30 by the Bulls. Peyper used a white card to refer the incidents to the citing commissioner.

Crusaders coach Todd Blackadder says he expects an apology from the Bulls if the complaints aren't upheld.

AP

Comments
  • Tokolos - 2012-04-09 02:11

    Dear Mr. Blacksnake Tokolos think the that the Bulls don't need to apologize for anything. Just because there is no visible footage of the actual incident, it does not mean that it did not happen. Look at the physical evidence on the players. Then you talk again. Our guys will not lie about stuff like that. The day you apologize for throwing the Springboks with flower bombs and setting up Brycie boy to cheat us out of a world cup so you can rob it from the French, then maybe we can talk about this again ok. Until then, shhhhhhhhhhh. From the TOKOLOS.

      RetiefC - 2012-04-09 08:49

      Tokelos praat weereens die waarheid. Blou Bul groete.

      Tokolos - 2012-04-09 09:03

      Dankie Ampie Tokolos like jou soos jam. Tokolos jok al van toentertyd nooit nie. Hy was sommer met die fanbelt of die hosepipe bygekom as hy gejok het. Van toentertyd af praat ek net die waarheid. STORMBULLE groete, TOKOLOS

      Blouvitrioel - 2012-04-09 09:33

      Nou gaan ou Isak wonder of Ampie nie miskien Tokolos, Bulldozer, dokter of Blouvitrioel is nie. Bul groete.

      1amAlan - 2012-04-09 09:36

      You really are a colourful entertaining character. Please keep them coming...

      1703mal - 2012-04-09 09:37

      Shame, Mr Pinky, stop crying!!

      Tokolos - 2012-04-09 09:58

      Ou 1703malkop Het julle ook internet in Dannabaai? Is julle al op GPS geplot? Het jy nie 'n plekkie waar Tokolos en sy cherrie bietjie verniet kan vakansie kom hou daar by die see nie my ou groot vriend? Kan ek sommer vir Karin inbox en dit reël? Sy sal my nog onthou. Groete, DIE TOKOLOS

      David - 2012-04-09 10:02

      Crikey I actually agree with Tokolos on this one

      Ren%c3%a9 - 2012-04-09 10:11

      @David, this Tokolos is indeed the 'wise one'!!!

      Tokolos - 2012-04-09 15:25

      Oom Isak Tokolos vra mooi. Tokolos is Tokolos. Tokolos is nie Bulldozer (R.I.P) nie. Jy gaan hartversaking kry hieroor. Laat staan die raai raai riepa. Vitrioel, YOU are DA MAN! David Is jy nog de vieste in vir ou Tokolos? Moenie wees nie. Tokolos het 'n goeie hart en trek maar net so bietjie siele uit hier. Alles in goeie gees. Tokolos sal maar bietjie briek aandraai en sy woorde so bietjie rephrase om nie te offend nie. Dankie tannie Rene Tokolos like jou soos jam. BULLE BO!!! Peace, TOKOLOS

      Tokolos - 2012-04-09 15:28

      Sorry 1amAlan Tokolos se dagboek is so vol amper vergeet hy jou. Tokolos aim to please thank you very much. Ou 1703malkop Tkolos like jou nie baie nie. Jy het so pyntrek op jou gesig op daai kiekie. Verander hom asb. Over and out, 10/4, TOKOLOS

      Blouvitrioel - 2012-04-09 17:12

      Dankie Tokolos vir jou vriendelike woorde. Bul groete.

  • Dave - 2012-04-09 02:12

    Typical dirty unhanded tactics by south Africans used to win at all costs. What an absolute farce to suggest the Crusaders would stoop to such tactics. The Crusaders are the most successful team ever because of discipline and professionalism. The two bulls players should be banned for false allegations. Shame on you bulls and shame on you south Africa.

      Blue - 2012-04-09 02:33

      So I guess Dave's an idiot...

      Ricardo - 2012-04-09 03:24

      Dave, I've seen many an eye gorge in my time as a sport medic involved in this game and the physical evidence show for themselves. Even though the video evidence is inconclusive, I don't know your nationality and don't even care but for you to make a speculation that a south african Team will make accusations to win at all costs is as I said and addition the New Zealanders are not as squeaky clean as you think get involved in the game properly and see it for yourself and you will have a new found respect for SA rugby.

      Pierre - 2012-04-09 03:32

      Yes Dave, should we ask Morgan Parra (French WC player) if these Crusaders are such upstanding guys as you claim? I guess he faked all his facial injuries in the WC final?

      Michael - 2012-04-09 06:37

      Owentjie.... There is clear footage of Richie Mccaw being eye guaged by Rougerie, you don't have to take his word for it, so what is ur point. I'm not sure what people are complaining about.. There is no evidence so, not guilty.. Or at least not proven so..... Ps. There are multiple reasons for his eye to bleed, 480 studs for example..

      super105 - 2012-04-09 07:43

      Typical nz who rely on match officials to win them games.

      Tokolos - 2012-04-09 09:26

      Uncle Dave Listen very carefully to Tokolos! 100 Years ago you guys were still running around with bones through your noses, eating people. Then you won the "world cup" many years after that, with the best team in the history of rugby not competing due to sanctions against them. If I am not mistaken it was the first ever "world cup" that you won. Thus you rightfully can not even claim that you are two times world champions because the "world" did not compete in the same competition until 1995. It's the same as the baseball world series. Who competes in it? In 1995 when you met your match, who whinged about food poisoning etc? I now start to wonder why Fitzpatrick's ear was bitten in those days. Maybe out of frustration and retaliation for dirty tactics applied by AB's? That left aside. You were knocked out of two previous wold cups by the French not so long ago. Whinged again about stuff. In 2011 you at last managed to rob the world cup from the French with big help from your cousin Brycie against your worst fear in this world...The Springboks! If you had to face SA in the semi final everybody knew that you would have lost...AGAIN. And that would definitely not have been good for you guys hey? So stop pointing fingers at my country and our teams and get your own house in order. You are worse than soccer players. Stop acting so innocent and godly! Yours Sincerely, TOKOLOS

      Ren%c3%a9 - 2012-04-09 09:40

      @Dave, no one is denying that the Crusaders is a successful team etc. However, it does not exempt them from the 'eye gouging' incident. The physical evidences on Chili as well as Flip's eye areas are there, however the culprit responsible could not be identified..... It's a horrible thing to do to any player!!! @Tokolos, jy is 100 % korrek in jou opsomming!!!!

      1amAlan - 2012-04-09 09:47

      Ah Dave, like a certain Mr Fitzpatrick who held players jersey's so that he could get a penalty from the resulting punch - often. Like a certain Mr Hayden that threw himself out of the lineout against the British Lions which gave the All Blacks the winning points from the resulting penalty - one that he was dumbfounded on when confronted with in an interview when it was played back to him. Not that they were trying to win at all costs . . . Just saying . . .

      1amAlan - 2012-04-09 10:03

      Sorry to rant on at you Dave, but when a player goes over the line and claims a try, but their is no video evidence to support the touchdown which happens often, from what you're implying that is underhanded and dishonest as well, a win at all costs? Hmmm, that happens in world rugby all over. Wow, we're going to have a lot of players banned if you were in control.

      Dave - 2012-04-09 12:04

      Hey chumpaloos the last time I checked the ABs had the best test record against all nations including your muppets. The last time I checked SA was ranked about 5th in the world while NZ is #1. The last time I checked SA was beaten by Scotland, the ABs have never ever lst to them. Face it chump, NZ has always been the best and your pretenders are currently ranked where they will probably stay for quite some time.

      Owentjie - 2012-04-09 12:13

      @micheal , what you see in that footage is a hand go over his face, the result, no scratches or bleeding. Oh and hold on, now you're saying it's ok to rake someone in the face. Look for the point before you look like a..... The point is if there is video footage, consequences should follow, I think I said that already. It's evident that something did happen to his face, don't you think it's fair to make sure it's nor eye gauging?

      Owentjie - 2012-04-09 13:01

      @Dave . Run to your medicine cabinet. Grab your ADD meds and pop a pill. Focus on your comment of sa/ bulls dirty and crusaders/abs exempt from all dirty play.

      1amAlan - 2012-04-09 13:59

      Face it Dave, if it wasn't for the isolation years the first world cup that the All Blacks would have held up would have been 2011, and even that is shrouded in controversy. Serge Blanco, one of the few international players that played against the SA in the isolation years, described them as the best side in the world. Obviously he was a doddering idiot.

      BlousteBlou - 2012-04-09 16:50

      Typical dirty unhanded tactics by NZ-teams used to win at all costs. What an absolute farce to suggest the Bulls would stoop to such tactics. The Bulls are the most successful SA team ever because of discipline and professionalism. The two Crusader players should be banned for false allegations. Shame on you crusaders and shame on you new zealand.

      Michael - 2012-04-09 18:53

      Wow Owentjie.. Not a Rocket scientist are we?? Do yourself a favour so you wont look like such a big tool and youtube the rougerie incident. It was clear as day, a huge eye gouge which rougerie subsequently apologised for and admitted his imbarrasment about the incident.. Ps. where did i say that raking someone in the face was okay?? 8(studs) x 2(boots) x 30(players) = 480 studs.. Thus counting his own players aswell, thus emplying a possible accident.. Richie Mccaw's face bleeds in every single game.. So, what ur saying that everytime someone's face bleeds, its via foul play... Wake up chop!

      Owentjie - 2012-04-10 02:35

      @ MIcheal, I did watch it before I commented,(did you see the copy and paste?) and I did see a hand on his face, but I did not see the blood or scrape marks on Richie that Flip boasts. I took the quote as an example of what I believe was a statement before video footage was released of the WC incident. " We should all take Richies word, ....." Im not sayng it didnt happen or that the player did not say sorry. Ok, lets not get to carried away about this and that, I then thought you were implying it could have been caused by boots, in a dirty raking manner. Sorry. Oh and what about the okes that wear 6 studs or mouldeds.....wop, now we must all add up the numbers floating in your head. But back to the facts, no video footage= not guilty or not caught? Im awake chop, can I send you a cup of coffe?

  • Pierre - 2012-04-09 03:27

    There is a difference between "the incident never happened", and the incident is not visible on the video footage. It was not just one player that complained, but two; and Chiliboy is an honest player. I think Blackadder should be a bit more humble on this one than making demands.

  • RetiefC - 2012-04-09 08:35

    It seems from this story that the siting commisioner resides in Wellington NZ? Maybe nobody could see what happened on the ground, but if you look at the evidence on Flip and Chilliboy eyes, the only conclusion could be, that there is no clear evidence of who inflicted the damage. Therefore no aplogy form the Bulls, mr Blackadder! Next time you may not be this lucky.

  • Jarrod - 2012-04-09 09:10

    DEAR TOKOLOS, DO YOU REMEMBER CORNE KRIGE, AND THE GAME AGAINST ENGLAND, WHERE ALL THE "OFF THE BALL" INCIDENTS AGAINST HIS TEAM WHERE PERPETRATED BY HIMSELF.AND ALL THE PHYSICAL DANAGE WAS DUE TO HIM! THE FLOUR BOMBS WERE AN ACT OF DEFIANCE AGAINST "APARTHEID" (OR DID YOU SUPPORT THAT?), AND THE MAN ROBBING FRANCE IN THE FINAL, WAS A SOUTH AFRICAN! GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT. SO SHHHHHHHHHHHHH

      1amAlan - 2012-04-09 09:32

      Dear Jarrod Do you think that the rugby team was responsible for apartheid? Just asking

      mark.nancarrow - 2012-04-09 13:53

      thats a nice picture of you going to school Jarrod

  • Jean - 2012-04-09 09:21

    It's fair... if it was the other way around we also would have demanded an apology.

  • 1703mal - 2012-04-09 09:35

    This is a" pink" stunt. Crusaders won't do this - Shame, Pinkies can't handle it. Cry on your mother's laps, Pinkies

      BlousteBlou - 2012-04-09 17:03

      Who won this game? Please remind me?

  • Jarrod - 2012-04-09 09:37

    AND THE ONLY PLAYER TO GET HIT BY A FLOUR BOMB, WAS A NEW ZEALANDER, KNIGHT. IN THE TEST IN NEW ZEALAND.HE TOOK ONE FOR THE FIGHT AGAINST RACISM! AND DIDN'T COMPLAIN ABOUT IT.

      Michael - 2012-04-09 11:17

      had nothing to do with racism, he was just low on bread and missed the pass

      Brendon - 2012-04-09 21:33

      Jarrod my friend, check your facts on racial history in NZ rugby and it doesn't exactly look pretty. People are very quick to crtiticise South African rugby but not to happy to criticise their own.

  • Harry - 2012-04-09 09:45

    Owentjie you are a machine! I guess all that's left to be said is that the Bulls will apologize as soon as the All Blacks apologize to France ? Enough said.

  • maru.ririnui - 2012-04-09 10:43

    Surely we all have our crosses to bear and none can honestly claim to be hard done by over time. - Falling out of line outs - Biting ears - Breaking jaws from behind - Eye gouges that do not get a red card - Referees that cost teams the World Cup Speaking of World Cups, the French might have a case. - They were the best team in 2011 - Their farcical loss in the 95 semi-final in the rain at Kings Park

      Brendon - 2012-04-09 21:35

      Best tem in 2011? Farcical loss? Go figure...

  • Keith - 2012-04-09 13:57

    Well the games must continue.The verdict has been given and the Crusaders has been vindicated so lets not complain.Rugby is physical and tight five players must give it and take it. Not suggesting to play dirty; but be as physical as you can.Cowboys don't cry.Great win Bulls.

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