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Bulls showed character - coach

2012-04-01 22:29

Cape Town - Bulls coach Frans Ludeke says his side showed great character after they turned a 14-0 half-time deficit into an almost winning scenario.

The Stormers looked to be coasting at the break, dominating their Pretoria rivals up front, but the three-time champions dug deep to fight back in a hostile environment.

The scores were level at 17-all with four minutes left before Stormers flyhalf Peter Grant slotted a penalty to give the home side the bragging rights.

But despite the defeat at the hands of their arch-rivals, the Bulls coach remained upbeat.

"The difference was that one penalty at the end where our discipline let us down.

"It was a good clash. We fought back well. One or two decisions in the second half brought us back into the game.

"I'm satisfied with the commitment we played with. We showed real character in the second half," Ludeke told Die Burger.

Ludeke did, however, acknowledge that the Stormers deserved their win.

"We had a lot of chances in the first half that we didn't take, but all credit to the Stormers. They defended really well and we made mistakes. The Stormers were better than us in the first half.

"The Stormers used their chance with that penalty at the death. It's small things that cost you a match when the pressure is on," said Ludeke.

In this weekend's Round 7 action, the Stormers travel to Dunedin to face the Highlanders, while the Bulls host the Crusaders in Pretoria.

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Comments
  • Francois - 2012-04-01 22:39

    Frans, then a lot of other teams have character, it is the story of the Stormers! After a very good lead, their opposition always almost turn the situation around. It is more the lack of character there in the W Cape that is a concern, but still well done! Also to the Sharks and the Free State - we need 4 teams in the top 6 and the Bulls is certainly on the way there. (Allister, please coach your team that they are playing rugby and not cricket, they cannot declare half time).

      Sker - 2012-04-01 23:45

      Francois, you have to admit that the best defender in the Stormers team was Flippie van der Merwe. 10-0 to the bulls while he was off.

      Riaan - 2012-04-02 06:35

      @ Isak. Ek wonder waar is Bulldozer vandag? Hy is gewoonlik heel eerste om stront te praat. Hy het seker sy rekenaar stukkend gegooi na die game. LOL

      Francois - 2012-04-02 07:11

      Sker, Flip must be one of the best locks in the world - he usually gives his opponent a three pointer and plays for only 70 min per match. Thus in that 70 min he must do what others do in 80 + he must make up for the extra energy his team had to spend when he was off. He is there to be the enforcer like Bakkies, but already had more yellows than Bakkies had in his whole career. Before I get my house egged again, the same applies to the some of the Stormer forwards. I think that all SA coaches must apply the rule that if you get yellow carded, you don't play for three weeks thereafter. Sure there are situations where a player goes offside or hold onto a ball to not give away a try, but rather a penalty and thereby not loose the match. I say - loose the match this time and coaches get coach your teams so that they do not get into a situation where they need to give away cards to save tries. It will be hard at first, but after a while teams will sweat as there will be no freebees from an SA team. To the Sharks and the Cheetahs, especially the Sharks, you can still make it to the top 6 - you did us proud. Stormer groete!

      Lion - 2012-04-02 07:25

      Crapdetector... Daar loop 'n berig op die blog dat Bulldozer oorlede is voor die Bulle / Stormers game in 'n motor ongeluk. Niemand anders kan dit bevestig behalwe die persoon wat dit geskryf het op een van die blogs nie. 'n Vriend van hom het op 'n blog rapporteer dat dit die geval is. Ek hoop dat dit nie so is nie. As dit is...R.I.P Dozey!

      Riaan - 2012-04-02 07:31

      @ Lion. Jammer om te hoor. Baie sad nuus. Sorry buddy. RIP

      Ren%c3%a9 - 2012-04-02 07:49

      Good morning to all: To all the Stormers supporters, Can you guys honestly and I mean honestly say that your team are playing great rugby? And that you, as a Supporter, are happy with your teams' performance thus far? Ill-discipline cost my team, and that can be fixed. What do you guys/girls think still needs to be done for the Stormers to be victorious this year. My take is that your team gave it your all on Saturday. The bonus points are not there - and I don't see it coming anytime soon. Listen a win is a win, but eventually teams who keep on getting the BP's are going to overtake you on the log - I think there's still about 11 games left. This is only for 'good' 'honest' supporters (not the ones who defaults to name calling all the time)...

      Lionel - 2012-04-02 08:03

      @Rene,my take is that you have got massive sour grapes!!!!!!! My team are not playing good rugby but they are winning and that is a huge positive!!! Worry more about Morne Steyns poor kicking,Spies's inability to take the points when they are there for the taking and Flips yellow cards!!!!

      Jed - 2012-04-02 08:07

      Rene, I dont believe the Stormers are playing great rugby, but we are winning. If we keep winning it does not matter how many bonus points we get. I believe the Stormers will get better the more they play. As for the Bulls they are playing very inconsistently , Morne Steyn has been terrible this year and I think to much Hype was made around the Reds game, they were hammered by the Force this week. So I reckon you take a good look at yours Bulls before you take a look at my Stormers.

      Ren%c3%a9 - 2012-04-02 08:12

      @Lionel, howdy!!! Not at all, that is really my take - believe it or not, I really would like you guys to win something more than the ConCup, and I believe you have the team to do it, but then the above question comes to mind and I was wondering. Why would I have sour grapes? Geez, I'm not a petty person, I was really interested in some good rugby chats, by I was clearly mistaken. FYI, I had 5 Stormers supporter friends watching the match with us, and I heard their take on it - was only curious to hear some of the bloggers take - maar nou ja! I thought we could have a 'civil rugby chat' - my bad!

      Ren%c3%a9 - 2012-04-02 08:15

      @Lionel, yes I am worried about Morne's kicking ability of late (Priester and I had a lenghty chat about it on another thread last night), yes, Pierre Spies should have shown more respect by taking the points on offer, Flippie's yellow card - concerning - but those are things that can be fixed - I am seriously not blind to my own teams faults - if you think that, you have 'misread' me completely.

      Ren%c3%a9 - 2012-04-02 08:40

      @vallemj, I hope your team can maintain the winning ways, it will be good for the Stormers supporters, I think the team owes that to their loyal supporters. I'm still in awe about Etzebeth, he is the absolute revelation for your team. I think Heyneke Meyer sleeps well at night!

      hugo.naude - 2012-04-02 08:44

      Behalwe vir die idioot crapdetector (moet liewer lees "crapeater") was daar n verbasende goeie sportmangees wat van die Stormers se kant of kom ... seker omdat julle weet dat dit so hittitte was of die stommes het verloor ... 3 punte vertel wel die storie SO GELUK MET DIE WEN en rekord boeke gaan n Stomme oorwinning aanteken ... maar hoe het my Bulle nie terugbaklei nie en hoe het my Bulle nie aan die einde oorheers nie ... Bulls agter is strate beter as die Bulls rejects wat nou vir die Stommes speel ... Stommes se pak is goed - veral julle slotte het my beindruk ... en Elstadt is n yster ... maar julle sal hom nie op flank kan speel op Loftus nie - hy sal nie byhou nie. Ek wil ook net iest se oor die pienk kleure ... ek glo die BULLS bpk ltd gaan duur betaal vir die keuse --- hoe kan jy intimideer van die staanspoor af met pienk aan jou lyf --- jy gee die opponent al klaar n 10 punt voorsprong (veral wat motivering betref) want hy gaan nog harder as ooit baklei om nie teen n pienk span te verloor nie ... die pienk klere was n GROOT fout!!!!!!!! BLOU Bul groete!!

      Ren%c3%a9 - 2012-04-02 09:01

      @Maestro, I cannot recall stating anywhere that my team is playing 'good rugby', they are 'hot/cold' at the moment, hopefully that comes right very soon. As for the 'forward pass', I'm sure you have DSTV, check the game again & again, put it on SUPER SLO-MO, and come back and report on the so-called forward pass! The ref made HORRIBLE calls/mistakes on the night, but THAT was not one of them. Enjoy your week!!

      Colin - 2012-04-02 09:02

      @ Rene. As a Stomer supporter, I know what you are talking about and I agree fully. We are certainly NOT playing to our full potential and there is still a lot of work to be done if we actually want to be a factor in this year’s comp. there is however 2 things I would like to mention to you. Firstly, after 5 weeks we top the log without playing to the best of our abilities so one has to wonder what would happen if we could get all four cylinders blazing… Secondly, your guys played an phenomenal game Sat night, and to a certain extent you deserved a 4 pointer, however as you mentioned ill discipline made things costly. Point I’m trying to make, is that the Bulls don’t have a discipline problem, they have a attitude problem in trying to beat everything to death. Dean Greyling and your two locks have this mucho attitude (same as Bismark and Jannie use to have) that winning comes second to their own egos’… just get those 3 guys to stop boxing and concentrating on the actual game and your team will be un-stoppable… PS Hougie is seriously the best 9 in the Comp! if he was playing for the Stomers we would have won by more than 10…

      Ren%c3%a9 - 2012-04-02 09:05

      @Raven, I agree with you, you learn more from a loss, than what you do at times from being victorious. I am very proud of the guys, they came back very strong in the 2nd half, even scored a try with 14 men on the field. Lessons learned!!! Time to move on. Enjoy

      Ren%c3%a9 - 2012-04-02 09:13

      @Colin, exactly right, play the ball, not the man! Some of my boys got seriously hot under the collar! My believe in life, the minute you get ANGRY, you've lost! You need to maintain a 'cool head' under those circumstances. But hey, easy for me to say who sits in the comfort of my arm chair at home. Rugby is not for sissies - was a good game though, I thoroughly enjoyed it. And yes, thank heavens, I think the game lived up to the 'hype'. Good luck with your team!

      Riaan - 2012-04-02 09:26

      @ Hugo Naude. There is nothing wrong with my sportsmanship. Where BlouDaan congratulated us I said thank you and that's that, but where people blame everything (including the pink jersey's) but not their team for their loss all bets are off. Perhaps you should accept that your team was not good enough on the day? Furtheremore why are all the comments made by Bulls supporters over the past couple of weeks only banter but my comments are con-strewed as bad sportsmanship? Grow up.

      hugo.naude - 2012-04-02 12:18

      @Crapdetector ... you should use your detecting abilities and detect that u are full of crap ... and a very bad sport to say the least. Where as many of the Bulls supporters have been very forthcoming with praise for the Stommes - since we know rugby and can praise good play we are not above congratulating a team for a good win - even against our beloved BULLS. But the way you carry on ... it is an embarrassment to your own fanbase ... I would say to you to grow up but by the sounds of it u r still a very small boy inside. The pink gave an unnecessary advantage to the opposition and will do so again ... and an unexpected loss (like this past weekend) could cost us the play-offs. So Bulls management should take note ... Good luck Stommes on your overseas tour - I will support you in every match and hope u bring back the bacon ... and should u break your cup drought --- rather an SA team than any other!!

      Riaan - 2012-04-02 13:48

      @ Hugo Naude. I still dont understand how the colour of your jersey makes ANY difference with how you play? It may give your opposition supporters some ammunition to rag your supporters but apart from that it has NO impact. You are manifesting your own insecurities as a reason for the loss. As to a SA team winning I would also prefer a SA team, irrespective to win the Super 15. Good luck with the season.

  • hc12345 - 2012-04-01 22:47

    If they weren't wearing pink they might have won. I am not so proud to be a Bull supporter any more. The pink is toooo girly!!! Please listen to the fans!!!!

  • henniedotvanstaden - 2012-04-02 00:15

    Bulls played the man and not the ball in first half, Greyling whent on in second half to play players, that cost pienk ladies the game. If Stormers didn't slack down, I believe pienk-ladies would never have scored their tries. I take my hat of for Hougaard, Potgieter, Ralapele and Spies who played the game, hard but fair. Good luck both teams for your next matches.

  • Saffa - 2012-04-02 02:34

    Ya well, it's not possible to beat a blatant ref! Craig Joubert the 3rd ref to save the poor Stormers. It's becoming totally ridiculous

      Koos - 2012-04-02 03:50

      I didn't see that. Pink is not Graig's favourite colour. It reminded him of his uni girlfriend who dumped him for a lesbian.

      Riaan - 2012-04-02 05:51

      On Friday the big mouth bulls supporters were glad Craig Joubert would be the ref and today he is the villian. Get over it you lost!!!!!!!!!!

      Jed - 2012-04-02 06:39

      Saffa , ya he missed that blatant forward pass for the Bulls try , the score should have been allot more to the Stormers. Joubert tried his best to let the Bulls win but we beat them.

      Neutedop - 2012-04-02 08:27

      And when he reff'ed the Soweto final, it was sour grapes when the Stormers complained. Suck it up, Cupcake.

      Papa-storm - 2012-04-02 08:36

      i can recall a few times the stormers was facing 16 bulls players saterday(incl the ref for the bull supporters that cant do math)

      eric.viljoen - 2012-04-02 08:53

      Before this weekend's game the Stormers only had a 17% win record when Craig was the ref. Care to try again?

  • marumobongani - 2012-04-02 04:51

    pink bulls lead the way

  • springbokke - 2012-04-02 05:48

    Thinking ahead....[.Stormers Vs Bulls]......A dream final. .Esp. after Saturdays performance

  • Riaan - 2012-04-02 05:50

    @ Saffa. Complaining about the ref. How original. Stoooooormeeeers!!!

      Riaan - 2012-04-02 09:30

      Thanks buddy. Tight game

  • Blou-Daan - 2012-04-02 06:04

    Ek kan net geluk se vir die Stormers, julle het gewen al was dit close op die einde. Die Stormers het n mooi span die jaar wat dit moeilik kan maak vir die ander. Nou sien ek uit na die Bulle-Stormers game op Loftus. Dit gaan ook weer n grote wees.

      Riaan - 2012-04-02 06:21

      Thanks Daan

      Lionel - 2012-04-02 06:45

      More my maat,baie dankie,daai game was n rille gewees!!!Sterkte vir Saterdag!!!!

      Blou-Daan - 2012-04-02 07:17

      More Lionel. Dankie en sterkte vir julle manne ook.

      Melt - 2012-04-02 08:23

      @Daan, Baie dankie broer ons vat dit. Vl keer is dit miskien julle beurt. Baie sterkte vir Sat ons Stormers staan bankvas agter julle teen daardie Crusaders. NS Daar is n dame wat by tye goeie kommentaar lewer maar ai die dag as haar span wat terloops die Bulle verloor (wat min gebeur) is daardie tannie ongesukkeld....wil jy nie maar n afspraak maak en vir Rene bietjie sielkunde leer nie?

      Blou-Daan - 2012-04-02 08:55

      @Melt Dankie vir jou ondersteuning Saterdag en ek kan ook die selfde se van die Stormers teen die Highlanders Saterdag. Maar wat die Rene aanbetref, daar sal ek my liewer uithou :-)

      Andre - 2012-04-02 09:07

      Jis ou Pienk Daan, wat was jou woorde vrydag, sluk jy dit nou in of hoe?

  • freddy.mactavish - 2012-04-02 06:48

    What a close game.. South African rugby Looking Good.. Well Done To The Cheetahs and Sharks. Away wins Always LEKKER!!!!!!

  • Lionel - 2012-04-02 06:54

    Congrats to my beloved Stormers,you boys made us proud!!!!!! Bulls had there chances,Morne Steyn had another poor kicking game and Spies,well he will have to answer why he did not take the points in the first half,instead kick for the corner and try rumble it up against one of the best defensive units in the game!!!! Flip(walking yellow card)Van der Merwe,what more can I say except hahahahahahah Chilliboy,you had a great game!!!!

      WernerZA - 2012-04-02 07:16

      It's their, not there!

      Tc - 2012-04-02 07:18

      Hell, it would have been embarassing if the Stormers hat lost to those "Pienk Tollies"! Pienk! It aint Rugby! I am sure that even the hardened Bulls-supporters and the players will agree!

      Lionel - 2012-04-02 10:20

      Thanks Raven,looking forward to the return clash!!!!!!!!!

  • dirk.r.carstens - 2012-04-02 07:33

    what a lot of pink.....

  • Papa-storm - 2012-04-02 07:51

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  • Francois - 2012-04-02 07:52

    Stormers het sagte drie weggegee aan Kirchner en in die aanloop na Olivier se drie was daar n vorentoe aangee wat die refs laat verby gaan het. Lyk my ook die hou wat Olivier vir Grant in die gesig geslaan het in losgemaal toe altwee op die grond was gaan nie uitgelig word nie; maar steeds n taai wedstryd soos dit hoort met n Nood vs Suid wedstryd. Al wedstryd wat soveel aandag trek in SA en sal vir altyd so wees.

      Pomene - 2012-04-02 08:48

      Dankie darem nog iemand wat dieselfde game as ek gekyk het. Die Bulls was great na halftyd maar die score flatter hulle. Dit moes 20 - 10 ten minste gewees het - slegte forward pass gewees reg voor die assistent ref !!! Kirchner se drie is pure opportunisme veroorsaak deur Stormers wat te ooregretig was - kon net sowel n drie vir Duvenage gewees het - maar dit was nie - Well done daar Bulls !!! Hulle sal die vir meisieking uitwys nie - Grant het niks gevoel nie !!!

  • gordon.p.jacobs - 2012-04-02 08:12

    Ha! Character based on a soft try against play and a forward pass try?

  • Gert - 2012-04-02 08:16

    Well done Bulls

      Papa-storm - 2012-04-02 08:29

      for?

  • faannagel - 2012-04-02 08:21

    Please get rid of the pink clown outfits,its a disgrace and makes us the laughing stock of rugby,how can a player give his best if he's not even proud of himself;disgrage to the Bulls leadership, will loose many supporters..pethetic..!!!

  • Jean - 2012-04-02 08:24

    Ostentatious hollow victory!!

      Riaan - 2012-04-02 08:51

      BOO-HOO...m, m, my name is Jean and my team l, l, lost. What would you have said if the Bulls won? No perspective? Whats wrong with you? Better luck next time.

      Lionel - 2012-04-02 09:06

      Crap-detector,you would not happen to be my ol buddy Mumford,now would you????

      Riaan - 2012-04-02 09:11

      @ Lionel. Fraid not.

      Lionel - 2012-04-02 09:16

      No Problem mate but welcome aboard!!!!!!!!

  • Julie - 2012-04-02 08:25

    Craig Joubert couldnt have been more for the Bulls. That is why I am happy that the Stormers won. Refs need to stop being so one sided and do things fairly. Well done Stormers (i am a Sharks supporter)

      Johan - 2012-04-02 09:07

      Mens kan sien jy leef in 'n droomwereld!

  • Schalk - 2012-04-02 08:59

    Say what you want chaps; DIE SOREBOARD PRAAT!! the bulls came to Cape Town to intimidate and fight the Stormers into submission - het toe nie gewerk nie, het dit? Toe hulle begin rugby speel was hulle goed, geen twyfel nie, maar op die dag was die Stormers te goed vir hulle - GO STORMERS!!!

  • Miss-Joy - 2012-04-02 09:28

    PLEASE find another word other than "Character" to describe how your team is performing... its embarrasing that our coaches and captains use the same cliche's week in and week out. I know grammar should come second to their performance on the rugby field, but come on people, use some initiative (and know, i dont mean you should use replace the word 'character' with 'initiative').

      Miss-Joy - 2012-04-02 09:53

      Whatever dude, as long as you realise 'The boys' will have to go back to the 'drawing board' during this 'building phase' and start playing for the whole '80 minutes', as 'character' alone, arent gonna win them any games. True Story!

      hvanderlinde - 2012-04-02 11:58

      There is a huge difference between Character and Initiative. Disposition, maybe? Would that make you a happy camper?

  • Saffa - 2012-04-02 10:42

    @Jaco - ok, now I am confused......(with all due respect of course) - I always thought you were Bulldozer (or rather, Dozey was your internationally travelling alter-ego?) Did I seriously get it that wrong?

      Lionel - 2012-04-02 10:46

      Saffa,if you look on Alwyn Krugers FB page you will see that Jaco and Alwyn are friends,we all knew that Dozey and Alwyn were buddies!!!Im thinking that Dozey(Jaco) tried to get rid of the Bulldozer thing and seens as though yesterday was April Fools day,one never knows!! If it is true I do apologise if I have offended anybody and RIP my buddy!!!

      Saffa - 2012-04-02 11:33

      @Lionel and Jaco - if I got it that wrong, I am seriously sorry. I honestly thought from wayyyyyyyyyyy back last year already, when Jaco commented regularly on the forum, that he was Pappa Smurf/Dozey etc. I just always found the similarities in things they said way back too peculiar (Voortrekker Road comments, and Jaco taking his son to Newlands etc etc etc). So, if I am wrong - then I am honestly sorry, and its a heartfelt RIP Dozey. If I am right about Jaco - then it's a 'stick around' with your real profile old chap.

      Saffa - 2012-04-02 11:59

      @Jaco - well then my apologies, and again I say, a heartfelt RIP Dozey. Where did this happen if I may ask?

      Lionel - 2012-04-02 12:07

      My Apologies as well and may he rest in peace!! @Saffa,according to Jaco,happened on the way to Newlands Saturday,his son was with him in the car but was unhurt!!!

  • Susan - 2012-04-02 10:49

    Duidelik is die persoon wat die pienk truie ontwerp het n blou bul hater.Ek twyfel of enige speler na homself in die spieel gekyk het en trots gevoel het op wat hy sien.Ons het by n kuierplek gekyk en ek glo die gelag wat daar opgeklink het is die reaksie wat hulle oral kry - dit kan mos nie goed wees vir n man se moraal nie...

      Bootman - 2012-04-02 11:42

      Susan I heard that Wynand Olivier and Pierre Spies are quite happy with the colour of the new kit. Apparently the colour goes well with the colour of their lipstick and eye shadow.

      Bootman - 2012-04-02 16:25

      Raven I totally agree with you. I would be terrified if Wynand and Pierre were standing behind me.

  • Willem - 2012-04-02 11:09

    Geluk Stormers nou kom ons maak dit 'n Suid Afrikaanse Final! Go Bulls!!

  • Andre - 2012-04-02 12:38

    the score does not reflect the truth as the Bulls were the best team.The difference was that Morne did not get his kicks in(9 points gone).This was also the case in the game against the Blues where he missed 10 point,thereby losing the game for his team. my opinion is that should he be unable to get back to form,Johan Goosen of Free State will be the next Springbok flyhalf.

      Pierre - 2012-04-02 12:45

      Andre you were obviously not watching the same game, its funny you don't look blind!

  • Pierre - 2012-04-02 12:46

    The only character the Bulls and their supporters show is when the are staring at the bottom of their last brandy and coke glass and want to "moer" their wives for not refilling quick enough., Bunch of tappits all of them

  • Chris - 2012-04-02 13:40

    @hugo.naude: Lig ons tog 'n bietjie in oor die 'reject Bull-agterlyn' wat nou vir die Stormers speel? Verwys jy dalk na Brian Habana wat eintlik 'n Lion is? G v d Heever wat lucky is dat hy op ons bench sit? Ek probeer hard, maar ek kry niks meer as dit nie! Verlos my tog uit my onkunde asb.

      Riaan - 2012-04-02 13:57

      Hugo is n ou suur drol. Kan nie n joke vat nie. Iemand moet vir hom se al die comments wat hier gemaak word is lig hartig en moet nie dadelik kop toe gevat word nie. Hy is baie "insecure". Ek dink die comments is sleg vir sy gesondheid.

  • whusselmann - 2012-04-02 13:55

    People that believe the Bulls were the best team on the day should seriously consider seeing a "kopmekeniek". When Elstadt left the field, the dynamics changed. Near fatal mistake by Allister. He could have taken of Duanne maybe. I personally would not have taken anyone of the forwards of and Koster i would only send on if no one were left on the bench. Koster is the least suited player for Super rugby as a forward i have ever seen in the Cape.Not physical enough. Maybe he does better against the Vodacom cup teams. The Stormers would have won with much more points if they stuck to the basics and kept Elstadt on the field. In games against the Bulls you do not play high risk rugby,except if you are already 20 points behind and doing that is your only hope. The Bulls nearly made the Stormers pay for this bit of disrespect.Wwithout Hougaardt behind the Bulls pack we would have been 30 points better. Bulls have one of the better backlines in the competition and as a unit definitely better than Stormers. And that ,Bulls supporters is a bitter pill for us Stormer supporters to swallow.

  • Chris - 2012-04-02 14:20

    @hugo.naude en ander soos jy: Kom ons maak gou 'n lysie van jul spelers (in jul squad) met sterk Kaapse wortels: Lionel Cronje; JJ Engelbrecht; Francois Hougaardt; Johan Sadie; Wilhelm Steenkamp; Flip v d Merwe; Stephan Dippenaar; Juandre Kruger en Jurgen Visser. Voeg by Zane Kirchner; Bjorn Basson; Morne Steyn; Jano Vermaak; Willie Wepener; Daniel Adongo; Francois Venter en een of twee wat ek mis en jy sien self dat van 'homebred' spelers daar min sprake is. Ek is egter ook die eerste om te erken dat rugby nou proffesioneel is en dat hierdie spelers obvious gaan waar hul die beste deal kry. Selfde asem: Daar is geen twyfel dat die Kaap tans die kitaar slaan met die voorsiening van die topgehalte spelers aan die res van SA nie!

      Saffa - 2012-04-02 16:26

      @Chris Gaan gou gou op die Stormer website en kyk wie van waar is. 60% van die spelers is nie oorspronklik van die Wes-Kaap nie. So 2/3 Stormers gekoop of nie van daar. Loop speel nou met jou gestremde maatjies. Die enigste voerplek van SA rugby is Grey College Bloem

      Chris - 2012-04-02 17:55

      @Saffa: Nie regtig hard probeer nie, ou vriend, of wil jy nie probeer nie, of kan jy nie probeer nie? Laat weet my gerus wie die 60% is waarvan jy praat. Grey lewer sy quota (en het veral in die verlede), maar 'n feit is dat van huidige spelers in Super 15-spanne by verre die meeste hul wortels in die Kaap het. Bewys my verkeerd!

      Chris - 2012-04-02 18:11

      @Saffa: Wortels in die Kaap = Ten minste matriek in die Wes-Kaap geskryf. Onthou dit is in matriek wanneer die provinsiale scouts gewoonlik begin om met hul vet tjekboeke aanbiedinge te maak!

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